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England (321/8) defeat India (316/9) by 5 runs to win the 3rd ODI

sensible-indian-fan said:
Ashwin went to Bharat Arun to work on his bowling. His technical adjustments were made after understanding a lot of theory.

Kohli went to SRT but how can we be sure he didn't consult anyone else to get the technical details right? If I remember correctly, Kohli had an outrageous series in Aus (tests) and then scratched around in ODIs for a year before regaining form. Its too speculative to say who exactly helped Kohli make the changes.

Yes, I agree that coaches should identify and work on players but ultimate responsibility lies on players. Maybe the player is just unable to get it right. Maybe he is not trying hard enough. Maybe he is trying but its not working so he is resorting to some hacks.

A coach is rated by his inputs to players. Agreed we may not know who is good and who isn't but just cos someone doesn't have international experience doesn't make him a bad coach.

Sanjay Bangar was with Kings XI and got positive feedback all round. He was appointed for Indian team and got positive feedback. Ashwin credits him for turning around his batting in public when there was no need for him to do so.

So what's the more likely conclusion?
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The only reason I questioned Bangar because it's Rahane we are talking about. He is a talented, hard working lad so we can be pretty sure that lack of trying or his capability isn't the issue here.

I am aware of Bangar's stint with Punjab but let's be honest here, he wouldnt have been changing the techniques of players in a T20 tournament. And it was Shastri who brought Bangar, nothing works without Sifarish in India.

He might have helped Ashwin with his batting but then it shouldn't hide his failure to sort Rahane's technical deficiencies.

I am not dissing Bangar because he wasn't a great batsman but solely because two years is a long time to identify and correct any technical inadequacy.
 
Thanks Pollack, game just got interesting. Bit boring watching Kohli cruise to an obligatory win. Now we get to see Dohni and Singh work hard.
 
TestMatch said:
Thanks Pollack, game just got interesting. Bit boring watching Kohli cruise to an obligatory win. Now we get to see Dohni and Singh work hard.
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Haha, yeah as crazy as it sounds, it is a bit boring following the same template of chasing. If India is to win, at least something different will happen today. :)
 
If India chase this again today, Pakistani fans are going to bash their team even more...
 
Without Virat, our chances of winning are almost 40% less, shows his impact in this format.

He wasn't in zone today, played loose shots.
 
India in tough spot without Kohli. Dhoni's usual slow start isn't helping.
 
Kohli has not been able to finish a match regularly for a long long time now, will be a test for Indian team, tough times in Champion's trophy if top order keeps failing this miserably,can not depend on yuvi as a long time prospect, he should retire gracefully after Champion's trophy
 
Was tough in the 1st innings and although conditions eased a little the seamers were still getting the ball to do a bit, Kohli struggled a bit given the performances he is expected of at home and in the circumstances it's a big deal to get him out for a half century. England have a chance here especially with Dhoni out now
 
We need to bring in Manish instead of Yuvi so that quick singles are taken with Kohli and he can play his natural game.
 
India is a one man show called Kohli, with the pitch tailor made for the Poms, it was always gonna be a formality, Kohli has lost his touch of finishing games (atleast for now) and we are awfully exposed,could have lost both the games,death bowling saved us a the blush in the 2nd game, 1st game Pandya won it
 
Don't think there's any shame in losing a match, specially against a team as good as England - Kohli & co. will have something to think about now. Would like to see some fight though - even from this point - the batting depth is in place for situations like this, lets see what these guys are made of, can they at least make Morgan & co. work hard to win..
 
should chase this down the outfield at eden is lightning quick and we bat really deep, given how poor morgan has been india should take this till the very end. Dhoni's loss was a big one but I still fancy our chances
 
This was really close series to be honest .Good chance gor Indian new players to play against quality side,
 
On this surface and in such a small ground chasing 12 an over for 5 overs isn't a big deal at all. I missed out on watching the game live. :facepalm::facepalm:
 
MS did a Malik today:(

He actually has declined big time. These are matches on such wicket against this attack, I almost expect him to end the match with 91* (85) sort of innings every time.

Might not last till 2019. This guy Kedar is playing like Kedar ......
 
MMHS said:
MS did a Malik today:(

He actually has declined big time. These are matches on such wicket against this attack, I almost expect him to end the match with 91* (85) sort of innings every time.

Might not last till 2019. This guy Kedar is playing like Kedar ......
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I don't know if your watching the match live or not but this is a very very helpful surface for seamers, it is still assisting the seamers in the 39th over.
 
When not connecting they need to rotate strike,not sure what they have done in IPL if they are not following the basic principle?
 
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Both batsman are struggling to score big shots now.
 
If there is one team that you'd wanna bet on to win the game from this position, it has to be India, its almost unreal how they chase down these big totals with ease, pitch-perfect batting lineup by far across all formats, our nakli superstars should learn a thing or two from India on how to approach a target but then again, the talent we've at our disposal can only get us so far.
 
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