England [400 & 248] beat South Africa [183 & 274] by 191 runs in the 4th Test, win series 3-1

[Manunited18]

it's pope's novelty year. he will be found out soon.

Or international cricket might be to his liking and could cream attacks every where

 

[majiz]

Dane Paterson and Beuran Hendricks
names to strike fear into the hearts of any test quality batsmen

 

[Robert]

Or international cricket might be to his liking and could cream attacks every where

Agreed, I think the heir to Root has arrived. He has all the shots and the right temperament.

Anyhoo. Last wicket carnage from Woody and Broad!

 

[sindhiboy]

A good innings from broad after a long time

Mark wood should bat no. 6 in odis, he is averaging above 80 this tour

 

[sindhiboy]

it's pope's novelty year. he will be found out soon.

What is there to be found out?
He has a solid technique.

He will be Englands best batsman, much better than root, that's for certain.

 

[James]

That final wicket partnership was incredible!

Looking forward to watching the bowling.

 

[Robert]

400 at four an over. That'll do.

 

[tyron_woodley]

Or international cricket might be to his liking and could cream attacks every where

more likely the former. him and curran will be found out very soon.

 

[tyron_woodley]

What is there to be found out?
He has a solid technique.

He will be Englands best batsman, much better than root, that's for certain.

he has a noticeable weakness vs a good short ball.

 

[Ozymandiasza]

400 at four an over. That'll do.

Yeah, not bad. It's Joburg so the ball flies with high scores being on the common side. We won't come close though. With a better team, it would have been on.

 

[Robert]

Yeah, not bad. It's Joburg so the ball flies with high scores being on the common side. We won't come close though. With a better team, it would have been on.

Ah yes, I remember when I flew out of JNB the take-off roll seemed to last for ages due to the thinner air.

RSA really needs ABDV back at #4.

 

[Ozymandiasza]

Ah yes, I remember when I flew out of JNB the take-off roll seemed to last for ages due to the thinner air.

RSA really needs ABDV back at #4.

I'm sure AB is tempted after the CSA shakeup. I hope so anyway.

Yeah, the altitude is very apparent in rugby with placekicking attempts from faaaaaar away, and the opposition huffing and puffing shortly after kick-off

 

[asadee]

What a pathetic batting side RSA have become

 

[Robert]

Awful by SA. I think only rain can prevent they going down 1-3 at home.

 

[Titan24]

Excellent by England.

SA is now only shadow of its past self which as a cricket fan I can only hope improves. Looks like end of Faf is also near both as captain and player unless he produces something magical.

 

[Titan24]

Finding Sibley, Pope, Crawley, Bess has been the highlight for Eng in this series. Add to that the find Archer is and improving Sam Curran, Eng has got some good youngsters which can take test cricket forward.

 

[neonoir]

Dreadful batting from SA. This is their worst batting lineup since readmission

 

[Manunited18]

Awful by SA. I think only rain can prevent they going down 1-3 at home.

had this sickness bug not hit England camp pre first test then England would be winning this 4-0, to think majority of this south africa squad have in the last year and have beaten both India and Australia.

Also woods bowling rockets, 94 mph peak pace

 

[Ab Fan]

4 down, Faf is done. SA should bring back AB. That will make sure they don't go down to no.8 test ranking.

 

[jnaveen1980]

SA is getting their clock cleaned. This will be their 8th test loss in the last 9 tests.

 

[HappyWarsFan]

SA is so bad at tests now damn. Thanks to Mickey Arthur and Inzi for making us lose 3-0 there with their incompetent Test knowledge.

 

[Robert]

had this sickness bug not hit England camp pre first test then England would be winning this 4-0, to think majority of this south africa squad have in the last year and have beaten both India and Australia.

Also woods bowling rockets, 94 mph peak pace

I agree, it’s men vs. boys. Sad to watch the once-unbreakable SA fall so low.

 

[MenInG]

England became the first team to score 500,000 Test runs on the first day of the fourth Test against South Africa, which saw the tourist's strong start curtailed by a final-session fightback from the Proteas.

Spoiler

Joe Root's men were dealt a blow before winning the toss with the news that paceman Jofra Archer would be unable to play at the Wanderers because of elbow soreness.

Having seen his side take command of the third Test in Port Elizabeth with a dominant first-innings batting display, Root elected to give his charges the same opportunity, and openers Zak Crawley and Dom Sibley laid an excellent foundation.

Crawley was in fluent form as he scored his first half-century for his country but England slumped to 157-4 after the first-wicket stand of 107 was broken.

Root (25 not out) and Ollie Pope (22 not out) steadied the ship, the former seeing England to the half-a-million milestone as it reached 192-4 before bad light stopped play.

After falling six runs short of a fifty at St George's Park, Crawley made no mistake in Johannesburg in a stylish innings that featured 11 boundaries, combining with Sibley for England's first century opening stand since December 2016.

Crawley's maiden international 50 was brought up in more fortuitous fashion with a thick edge through point but Sibley, having successfully reviewed an lbw decision and been given a reprieve by a no-ball, was not so lucky.=

A centurion in the second match in Cape Town, Sibley was strangled down the leg side on 44 as Beuran Hendricks claimed a wicket on his Test debut.

Vernon Philander then ensured he will end his final Test with a wicket as Crawley presented a simple catch to Rassie van der Dussen, who made another grab at slip to end a difficult 35-ball spell at the crease for Joe Denly (27).

South African hopes of an England collapse were given a significant boost when talisman Ben Stokes fell to Anrich Nortje for just two, the all-rounder's attempt at a drive seeing him send another straight to Van der Dussen.

Stokes was involved in a verbal altercation with a fan as he left the field but, while England will now have to wait to see if he faces any repercussions from that, in terms of the match its position was improved as Root and Pope provided stability.

They did so in confident fashion. Root surpassed 7,500 Test runs with a pull through midwicket for four and his single through the covers took England to the historic 500,000 mark.

The fading light saw the fifth-wicket partnership interrupted on 35 and, though England has plenty of batting to come, Root and Pope will know that stretching their stand well into day two will go a long way to sealing a 3-1 series victory.

https://sportstar.thehindu.com/cric...hilander-root-ollipe-pope/article30646944.ece

 

[Manunited18]

SA is so bad at tests now damn. Thanks to Mickey Arthur and Inzi for making us lose 3-0 there with their incompetent Test knowledge.

They beat india and Australia majority of this squad

 

[jnaveen1980]

5 down. Test will be over tomorrow.

 

[sindhiboy]

wood is bowling with fire

this is not . typical up and down wanderers pitch, would have been deadly otherwise

 

[James]

Another dominant day.

Wood was absolutely fantastic! A pleasure to witness.

 

[Robert]

Utter domination. SA had a chance at 320-9 but the England tail smashed it into the stands.

Surely another innings victory will happen tomorrow.

 

[MenInG]

ANRICH NORTJE provided a lone ray of light with his first career fifer as the Standard Bank Proteas crumbled against a vastly superior England outfit on the second day of the final Test match at the Imperial Wanderers Stadium on Saturday.

Nortje has clearly been South Africa’s find of the series and his whole-hearted return of 5/110 in 24 overs was well deserved as is the fact that he is the leading wicket-taker in the series.

For the rest it was totally England’s day as they amassed a first innings total of exactly 400 and then had the Proteas in tatters at 88/6 in their reply with Quinton de Kock once again the only batsman to show any real confidence.

England’s above part total on a good pitch but one on which the bowlers always knew they were in with a chance was built in the first place around the century stand between Joe Root and their own find of the series, Ollie Pope, whose positivity contrasted sharply with the defensive approach of most of the South African batsmen.

The killer blow was then struck by tail-enders Mark Wood and Stuart Broad in a 10th-wicket stand of 82 in less than 10 overs.

By that time Nortje had bowled himself to a standstill after a mammoth morning spell of eight overs leading up to the second new ball and the rest of the attack took a hammering.

England now take a lead of 312 runs into the third day and the Proteas face the prospect of having to follow on for the second time in a row.

An equally worrying statistic that to date this is the first time in a home series that the Proteas have failed to score a century. It will be up to De Kock to correct that statistic tomorrow.

 

[Markhor]

This is a new low for South Africa. The worst I've seen them since readmission.

 

[Savak]

Looks like Daryl Cullinans dire predictions in 2015 were correct. The SA were such a strong side with so many world class players in the team but he feared for the future because of the lack of quality in domestic cricket and the U19 teams, lol everyone mocked and made fun of him back then for being a drama queen. Lol whose had the final laugh now

 

[Nikhil_cric]

They beat india and Australia majority of this squad

They had AB, Amla, Morkel and a pre stress fracture Rabada and a fit Ngidi .

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Surely, no one's taking this match seriously. The only hope SA had of winning was banned by the English. This is an extremely poor SA side. England are just less poor.

 

[Robert]

Surely, no one's taking this match seriously. The only hope SA had of winning was banned by the English. This is an extremely poor SA side. England are just less poor.

Yeah, I am. The very good thing from an England point of view is that the young batsmen are stepping up in away tests against a powerful attack.

 

[James]

Surely, no one's taking this match seriously. The only hope SA had of winning was banned by the English. This is an extremely poor SA side. England are just less poor.

England fans who enjoy Test cricket have been watching English teams mostly play horrendously badly in Tests for quite a few years now. Particularly the batting lineup. This series might not matter to everyone out there, but it means a lot to us.

 

[sindhiboy]

Surely, no one's taking this match seriously. The only hope SA had of winning was banned by the English. This is an extremely poor SA side. England are just less poor.

fans are assuming this series only marks the descent of south african cricket

but this series also marks the rise of england test team. they have found openers, top order batsmen and a spinner all of high quality out of nowhere.

england are a much better team now and have the players to compete in all conditions

 

[praveen]

Trash bowling by SA to let the tail get so much and would have been much better game had they got England all out for hundred runs less . I love watching pope and wood. Root although not converting is scoring useful runs regularly. England starting to look strong and on their way to win a series in SA which is great news for them.

SA seem to have forgotten how to bat, bowl and field. No hope in the horizon. Rabada has been so poor recently it’s compounding their woes.

 

[sweep_shot]

This is getting embarrassing for South Africa. This is their home series and they were expected to dominate.

They dominated in the first Test but since then it has been all England.

Boucher has a tough job at hand.

 

[tyron_woodley]

had this sickness bug not hit England camp pre first test then England would be winning this 4-0, to think majority of this south africa squad have in the last year and have beaten both India and Australia.

Also woods bowling rockets, 94 mph peak pace

ABD, amla, morkel, steyn and ngidi played when they last beat india and australia at home. that team would beat this england side.
They got smashed in india last year.

 

[tyron_woodley]

it's a development phase. All teams have to go through this cycle. south africa will bound back.

 

[Robert]

fans are assuming this series only marks the descent of south african cricket

but this series also marks the rise of england test team. they have found openers, top order batsmen and a spinner all of high quality out of nowhere.

england are a much better team now and have the players to compete in all conditions

Agreed, this is a more robust England side that the one that fought the Ashes, with youngsters learning fast.

Now they just need Burns opening, Foakes behind the sticks and Archer to bring the heat with Wood.

I would have Moeen back too for SL, for Denly.

 

[Mamoon]

ABD, amla, morkel, steyn and ngidi played when they last beat india and australia at home. that team would beat this england side.
They got smashed in india last year.

They lost to England 2-1 at home in 2016, and that England team wasn’t stronger than this one.

 

[Robert]

Broad strikes immediately. Can this be iced today? Thirteen wickets to take.

 

[MMHS]

SAF is really struggling these days and ICC added salt in their wound with Rabada. Also, I’ll sack this guy Faf just to make sure that he doesn’t go for Ross any more - this is like 10 Tests in a row that the guy has lost it and this SAF side won’t compete much with Poms batting second.

I don’t think, England will enforce the follow-on here, unless there is further weather threat. J’burg track is best for batting on Day 3 - won’t matter much, but England should give their pacers a little rest.

 

[MMHS]

England is facing a sweet problem, come summer - selecting pacers. Too many choices and I believe Jimmy will come back for one last time. We might see an all pace attack for whole summer - whatever spin is required, Root can manage.

1. Burns
2. Sibley
3. Pope
4. Root
5. Stokes
6. Vince/Moeen/Woakes
7. Fokes+
8. Curren
9. Archer
10. Wood
11. Jimmy/Broad

I think, they should play Woakes instead of 6th batsman as Stokes is almost a specialist bat these days. Woakes can bat and can be effective seemer.

First time in history, England might win all Six Tests in summer, unless it rains heavily or ECB implement their plan of 4 day Test. This is actually quite a good Test team and the inclusion of Pope & Sibley has changed the combination completely.

 

[tyron_woodley]

They lost to England 2-1 at home in 2016, and that England team wasn’t stronger than this one.

Well in that case, the 2018 South African team dint face current Indian team either which is much stronger with proper openers and middle order.

 

[Mamoon]

Well in that case, the 2018 South African team dint face current Indian team either which is much stronger with proper openers and middle order.

That series was the most bowling-friendly in history, where every single wicket fell (only instance in 150+ years of Test cricket).

Basically the team that batted first won the match.

 

[andy0204]

That series was the most bowling-friendly in history, where every single wicket fell (only instance in 150+ years of Test cricket).

Basically the team that batted first won the match.

What rubbish India tour of Newzealand in 2002 was more bowler friendly.

 

[Mamoon]

What rubbish India tour of Newzealand in 2002 was more bowler friendly.

Close, but this one was better for bowlers. There was swing, seam and uneven bounce. Kohli was the only batsman to score a hundred and comfortably top-scored over the 3 matches.

That performance cemented his status as one of the top 5 greatest batsmen of all time.

 

[tyron_woodley]

That series was the most bowling-friendly in history, where every single wicket fell (only instance in 150+ years of Test cricket).

Basically the team that batted first won the match.

Yea but I am saying even with all the advantages of batting first stacked against India, India still could have won had they picked the right players. The opening pair now plus middle order is far better.

England have impressed me. I am actually shocked they destroyed South Africa in this series. Andy is probably done but he can still pull out a few tricks.

Broad, archer, wood, Woakes, Curran. They should play with all 5 of them for depth. Put foakes as number 6 or Buttler.

Top 5 will be sibley, burns, crawly, root, stokes.

Pope or Curran/Woakes will Be a difficult conundrum. I personally would drop Denny and then move Pope to 6 move Buttler to 5.

 

[Mamoon]

Yea but I am saying even with all the advantages of batting first stacked against India, India still could have won had they picked the right players. The opening pair now plus middle order is far better.

England have impressed me. I am actually shocked they destroyed South Africa in this series. Andy is probably done but he can still pull out a few tricks.

Broad, archer, wood, Woakes, Curran. They should play with all 5 of them for depth. Put foakes as number 6 or Buttler.

Top 5 will be sibley, burns, crawly, root, stokes.

Pope or Curran/Woakes will Be a difficult conundrum. I personally would drop Denny and then move Pope to 6 move Buttler to 5.

England are generally underrated here. There were never as poor as some made them out to be.

If the 2019 Ashes were taking place now, they would win. They were still stuck in the World Cup fever and couldn’t adjust to the demands of Test cricket so quickly.

Let’s not forget that Anderson’s injury cost them in the first Test.

I still believe the likes of Buttler and Roy have futures in Test cricket. Buttler needs a big innings and it would get him going, that is why I don’t see them dropping him for the home summer.

England will play two weak sides and it is an ideal chance for Buttler to get his confidence back. Foakes is an excellent keeper but a limited batsman, and I can understand ECB’s reluctance over selecting him instead of Buttler.

As far as Roy is concerned, there is no room in the top-order after the emergence of Sibley and Pope, but he could be in contention for the number 6 spot. He can do well at that number and also capitalize on the second new ball.

Stokes, Roy and Buttler batting at 5, 6 and 7 against tired bowlers and tired fielders could be devastating.

I think England are well-placed to play India in the Test Championship Final at Lord’s. They also know how to beat India at home, so we should not rule out the possibility of them holding both the World Cup and the Test Championship at the same time.

 

[andy0204]

Close, but this one was better for bowlers. There was swing, seam and uneven bounce. Kohli was the only batsman to score a hundred and comfortably top-scored over the 3 matches.

That performance cemented his status as one of the top 5 greatest batsmen of all time.

Look at that series,only once team managed to score above 200 in innings.

 

[Robert]

England are generally underrated here. There were never as poor as some made them out to be.

If the 2019 Ashes were taking place now, they would win. They were still stuck in the World Cup fever and couldn’t adjust to the demands of Test cricket so quickly.

Let’s not forget that Anderson’s injury cost them in the first Test.

I still believe the likes of Buttler and Roy have futures in Test cricket. Buttler needs a big innings and it would get him going, that is why I don’t see them dropping him for the home summer.

England will play two weak sides and it is an ideal chance for Buttler to get his confidence back. Foakes is an excellent keeper but a limited batsman, and I can understand ECB’s reluctance over selecting him instead of Buttler.

As far as Roy is concerned, there is no room in the top-order after the emergence of Sibley and Pope, but he could be in contention for the number 6 spot. He can do well at that number and also capitalize on the second new ball.

Stokes, Roy and Buttler batting at 5, 6 and 7 against tired bowlers and tired fielders could be devastating.

I think England are well-placed to play India in the Test Championship Final at Lord’s. They also know how to beat India at home, so we should not rule out the possibility of them holding both the World Cup and the Test Championship at the same time.

Buttler already had a big innings against Pakistan and didn’t get going after. One century in thirty tests isn’t convincing. Get Foakes - the best keeper and he will outscore Buttler.

Roy will never play tests for England again. He and Buttler are the exemplars of the ODI players who couldn’t win the Ashes.

 

[Varun]

SA 21 runs out from the follow-on.

Think England will enforce it anyway?

 

[jnaveen1980]

Poor dekock is playing for a substandard Test team.

 

[Ozymandiasza]

England are generally underrated here. There were never as poor as some made them out to be.

If the 2019 Ashes were taking place now, they would win. They were still stuck in the World Cup fever and couldn’t adjust to the demands of Test cricket so quickly.

Let’s not forget that Anderson’s injury cost them in the first Test.

I still believe the likes of Buttler and Roy have futures in Test cricket. Buttler needs a big innings and it would get him going, that is why I don’t see them dropping him for the home summer.

England will play two weak sides and it is an ideal chance for Buttler to get his confidence back. Foakes is an excellent keeper but a limited batsman, and I can understand ECB’s reluctance over selecting him instead of Buttler.

As far as Roy is concerned, there is no room in the top-order after the emergence of Sibley and Pope, but he could be in contention for the number 6 spot. He can do well at that number and also capitalize on the second new ball.

Stokes, Roy and Buttler batting at 5, 6 and 7 against tired bowlers and tired fielders could be devastating.

I think England are well-placed to play India in the Test Championship Final at Lord’s. They also know how to beat India at home, so we should not rule out the possibility of them holding both the World Cup and the Test Championship at the same time.

Buttler, a guy "nearly as talented as de Villiers", needs handholding?

Well done to England though. They have simply outclassed SA. Really makes me wonder about that first test match...

 

[Amjid Javed]

Any team scoring more than 250 vs SA is going to get a lead in a game, there batting is pathetic. Should be inns win here for england.

 

[MenInG]

RSA 183-all out (68.3) CRR: 2.67
Day 3: Lunch Break - South Africa trail by 217 runs

 

[Hasan123]

South Africa are so bad right now. This is the pain they are going to have to go through before rising. So depressing seeing them like this.

 

[ind_win]

haven't seen much of this pope fellow after one innings against India. He seems to be the next big thing in International circuit. As far as I remember, he had a good defensive game and was like Trott but with a better negotiating skill of the short-pitched bowling than Trott (which ended his career.)

 

[Robert]

Buttler, a guy "nearly as talented as de Villiers", needs handholding?

Well done to England though. They have simply outclassed SA. Really makes me wonder about that first test match...

There was no malfeasance. Half the England team was sick.

Great to see Woody get five wickets - he can be a real asset is he stays fit, and he has to get the new ball ahead of Wasam Acurran.

Looks like England will bat and give SA five sessions to survive.

 

[Manunited18]

Buttler already had a big innings against Pakistan and didn’t get going after. One century in thirty tests isn’t convincing. Get Foakes - the best keeper and he will outscore Buttler.

Roy will never play tests for England again. He and Buttler are the exemplars of the ODI players who couldn’t win the Ashes.

Full credit for Joe roots captaincy since going down in the first test, hes been imaginative and thought out of the box, l agree foakes needs to come in now as buttlers confidence completely shot and its effecting his keeping, I'd also make Rory burns vice captain and play young Crawley at 3

 

[Manunited18]

There was no malfeasance. Half the England team was sick.

Great to see Woody get five wickets - he can be a real asset is he stays fit, and he has to get the new ball ahead of Wasam Acurran.

Looks like England will bat and give SA five sessions to survive.

Brilliant for woodsy, there's no substitute for express fast bowling, only concern I have is the ashes are full 2 years away and woods will be 32 by then and with his injury record surely we need to get a fit olly stone, or Jamie overton in around the squad, remember broad at that age will be inaffective in Australia so will be curran and woakes, we should ploy a horses for courses selection policy for next 2 years and keep in mind of the quicks and spinners that could do well in Australia

 

[Mamoon]

Buttler, a guy "nearly as talented as de Villiers", needs handholding?

Well done to England though. They have simply outclassed SA. Really makes me wonder about that first test match...

Well so did de Villiers in the early years of his Test career. He averaged around 30 for a very long time.

Buttler shouldn’t have been dropped from the Test side in 2013-2014.

 

[Mamoon]

Would be fantastic to see Archer and Wood opening the bowling in the next Ashes in Australia and also in Asia.

With the inclusion of these two, England finally have a potent pace attack for all conditions.

 

[Ab Fan]

Well so did de Villiers in the early years of his Test career. He averaged around 30 for a very long time.

Buttler shouldn’t have been dropped from the Test side in 2013-2014.

By the time de Villiers was 25, he had a 400 chase in Perth, 178 in Headingley and a double hundred in India.

Buttler is now 29. Seems England don't know how to treat a good talent.

 

[Robert]

Brilliant for woodsy, there's no substitute for express fast bowling, only concern I have is the ashes are full 2 years away and woods will be 32 by then and with his injury record surely we need to get a fit olly stone, or Jamie overton in around the squad, remember broad at that age will be inaffective in Australia so will be curran and woakes, we should ploy a horses for courses selection policy for next 2 years and keep in mind of the quicks and spinners that could do well in Australia

Sure. Woody has lengthened his run which seems to be helping him. He averages 14 this series. Everyone is saying SA are terrible, but I wonder if they could compete if Wood wasn't hurling thunderbolts.

 

[Robert]

By the time de Villiers was 25, he had a 400 chase in Perth, 178 in Headingley and a double hundred in India.

Buttler is now 29. Seems England don't know how to treat a good talent.

What, by picking him in every test since April 2018 and every ODI? How dare they mistreat him so.

 

[Manunited18]

By the time de Villiers was 25, he had a 400 chase in Perth, 178 in Headingley and a double hundred in India.

Buttler is now 29. Seems England don't know how to treat a good talent.

England have given the platform for buttler to perform but it comes a time where you have to realise he's not test match material, like Roy his game is based on flat roads where he hits through the line and please let's have sensible posts. How on earth can you compare a flat track bully to a great cricketer like A.b

 

[Ab Fan]

What, by picking him in every test since April 2018 and every ODI? How dare they mistreat him so.

I agree. Not everyone can be as good as de Villiers. Buttler is simply not half as good as AB. Time for England to keep Jos as LO specialist.

 

[Manunited18]

Sure. Woody has lengthened his run which seems to be helping him. He averages 14 this series. Everyone is saying SA are terrible, but I wonder if they could compete if Wood wasn't hurling thunderbolts.

We always do well in South Africa any way, they have declined but I'm not sure there that bad.
As for woods he's the quickest bowler in the world on a consistent bases and no matter who you are no one likes 95 mph tjunderbolts coming at you, I just hope he's fit for next 2 years as he could be pivotal in Australia IF FIT

 

[Ab Fan]

England have given the platform for buttler to perform but it comes a time where you have to realise he's not test match material, like Roy his game is based on flat roads where he hits through the line and please let's have sensible posts. How on earth can you compare a flat track bully to a great cricketer like A.b

Yeah agreed. AB was once in a generation player, a really really special player and a true legend of the game.

 

[andy0204]

By the time de Villiers was 25, he had a 400 chase in Perth, 178 in Headingley and a double hundred in India.

Buttler is now 29. Seems England don't know how to treat a good talent.

He also played Murali well in Srilanka,he was about to score a hundred there.

 

[MenInG]

No contest am afraid!

ENG 400, 46/0 (17.5) CRR: 2.58
Day 3: 2nd Session - England lead by 263 runs

 

[MenInG]

No contest am afraid!

ENG 400, 46/0 (17.5) CRR: 2.58
Day 3: 2nd Session - England lead by 263 runs

 

[Robert]

England have given the platform for buttler to perform but it comes a time where you have to realise he's not test match material, like Roy his game is based on flat roads where he hits through the line and please let's have sensible posts. How on earth can you compare a flat track bully to a great cricketer like A.b

I think [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] makes an emotional decision on whether he likes a player (Buttler) or not (Moeen) and then argues exhaustively.

As for woods he's the quickest bowler in the world on a consistent bases and no matter who you are no one likes 95 mph tjunderbolts coming at you, I just hope he's fit for next 2 years as he could be pivotal in Australia IF FIT

He will be a young 32. He hasn't played that many matches.

Can't wait to see him flying in with Archer.

 

[Hasan123]

Norje, Ngidi, and Rabada with Maharaj as a spinner isn't a bad attack. South Africa need to sort their batting out. They need more from Van Der Dussen, Bavuma, and Elgar. Hamza and JP Malan need to be given long runs.

 

[Ozymandiasza]

Well so did de Villiers in the early years of his Test career. He averaged around 30 for a very long time.

Buttler shouldn’t have been dropped from the Test side in 2013-2014.

I'm just pulling your leg.

 

[Manunited18]

I think [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] makes an emotional decision on whether he likes a player (Buttler) or not (Moeen) and then argues exhaustively.



He will be a young 32. He hasn't played that many matches.

Can't wait to see him flying in with Archer.

That's the plan

 

[Hasan123]

Surely Buttler will be dropped for Foakes.