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England defeat Pakistan by four wickets to take 4-0 lead in 5 match series

What happened to Micky? Why is he yelling lol. G. Flower on the other hand just chilling.

Mickey is telling Grant - you fool, I asked about who fit Irfan is, before calling replacement, you said cool. Now, what's this?

Grant - mitty pao yaar, just 3 months in job, I have 2 more years experience.
 
[MENTION=131731]Lords[/MENTION] its an ear piece so they can listen to the sky commentary
 
Morene Ali is no tailender with the bat, he'll be very comfortable at this stage to chase down the target
 
Mickey Arthur needs to get a grip on his emotions. It is understandable, his frustration
 
What do you guys make of Guls performance today?
Imad wasim can be your number 7 .. need a fast bowling all-rounder at 8 .. Hassan Ali is not an all-rounder for all who labeled him as such .. the farthest thing away from an all-rounder.. so he isn't the answer .. and amir needs to be at 9 ..
 
Has Azhar ever "generated' a wicket? I have seen most of his matches, particularly during bowling. It's either regulation out or batsman throwing it casually.
 
What do you guys make of Guls performance today?
Imad wasim can be your number 7 .. need a fast bowling all-rounder at 8 .. Hassan Ali is not an all-rounder for all who labeled him as such .. the farthest thing away from an all-rounder.. so he isn't the answer .. and amir needs to be at 9 ..

Its sad :gul bowling went so bad , otherwise he would have been good number 9 or 10 , he is a clean striker .
 
Has Azhar ever "generated' a wicket? I have seen most of his matches, particularly during bowling. It's either regulation out or batsman throwing it casually.

You are asking too much from Azhar
 
Has Azhar ever "generated' a wicket? I have seen most of his matches, particularly during bowling. It's either regulation out or batsman throwing it casually.

He is not tactically good , probably worst among Pakistan captains. He will give competition to Waqar and Youhana.
 
Rhys: "Even though I'm English, I'm still waiting to see Ali c Ali b Ali in this tour... (Moeen c Azhar b Hasan)"

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Its sad :gul bowling went so bad , otherwise he would have been good number 9 or 10 , he is a clean striker .

I am absolutely willing to concede that you know a lot more about his ability than I do .. but based on whatever Cricket I have watched and watching him today and in the last game .. the guy is not even better than yasir, wahab or amir.. he made 9 of 20 odd today .. no clean striking .. but again.. I haven't watched him play outside this series .. just on the basis of that .. he is not an all-rounder (just can't bat)
 
He is not tactically good , probably worst among Pakistan captains. He will give competition to Waqar and Youhana.
Completely agree with you.. At this moment, I don't know for what he is saving Gul, we need two wickets immediately to bring us back in the game. He is probably saving Gul, when match is already out of hand.
 
I am not sure from where my [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] boss saw Hasan Ali, but any given day I'll play Anwar over him. I don't know what he offers to be honest - pace is no issue these days; in Bangladesh, we have at least 2 dozen pacers who can clock around 134km; he is 5'9"; his ideal batting position is No. 10 even in this PAK team, because today Irfan is playing.

Sorry for the young man, but just not good enough & I don't think he is young enough to improve drastically either. I'll spend that resource on Ehsan Adil & try to improve Aamir/Yasir's batting.

I get your point but stop exaggerating .
Bangladesh doesnt have 2 dozen bowlers who.bowl 135 plus .
I watched a bit of the BPL and a few sides didnt even have 1.
 
I am absolutely willing to concede that you know a lot more about his ability than I do .. but based on whatever Cricket I have watched and watching him today and in the last game .. the guy is not even better than yasir, wahab or amir.. he made 9 of 20 odd today .. no clean striking .. but again.. I haven't watched him play outside this series .. just on the basis of that .. he is not an all-rounder (just can't bat)

Read the score card again ....
 
I'm really curious on what Azhar is going to say at the post match presentation
 
Read the score card again ....

Just did .. 9 of 19 .. and mistimed a full toss to point .. and the commentators also said "any better batsman would have smashed that" .. am I missing something?
 
I'm really curious on what Azhar is going to say at the post match presentation

Credit to England but we were 30-40 runs short. We could have been in the game if we batted better. We are better than our ranking suggests.
 
England sub fielders joining in with the Mexican wave :D. Mark Woods hilarious.
 
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Losing ODI's don't even hurt anymore, I get upset if we lose Tests and T20's
 
English players having some fun, nice to see

Pakistan still in the game, one or two wickets will change everything
 
I get your point but stop exaggerating .
Bangladesh doesnt have 2 dozen bowlers who.bowl 135 plus .
I watched a bit of the BPL and a few sides didnt even have 1.

Bangladesh bowlers are mentally groomed in a system where they don't bowl for the speed gun in a T20 on a sluggish wicket.
 
What is the big joke why is this team behaving as if we have won this series
 
And Ul Haq picked this guy for the only T20........
 
This is embarrasing, but i think Irfan's fitness is shocking.
 
Bangladesh bowlers are mentally groomed in a system where they don't bowl for the speed gun in a T20 on a sluggish wicket.

They are mentally groomed so that no Bengali can bowl above 140 kph? Who is doing this stupid grooming?
 
Irfan back now.

Back to pavilion that is.
I dont understand why was he called back as replacement, and i dont understand why was he brought back to attack when he is clearly not well enough to bowl more than one wide ball
 
Irfan has only played one T20 since end of April and he was selected for both OD and T20 series? Well done Inzi bhai! Your logic is kamal ka! :14:
 
Irfans fitness can be shocking.. but how the hell can the selection committee select such a player? This is absolutely ludicrous.. these people are unselectabke .. how can you select someone who can give you just 5 overs? Send him in on a tour he wasn't originally selected for on fitness grounds.. and then he gets injured after half a game .. comedy! Daft think tank
 
Mickey Arthur looks too angry compared to any previous coach we've had
 
5 - 0 whitewash is really terrible. At least players should have fought for some dignity , its simply pathetic.
 
Irfan has only played one T20 since end of April and he was selected for both OD and T20 series? Well done Inzi bhai! Your logic is kamal ka! :14:

Interesting point from Nass, all the army training etc is no good if you don't have match fitness. There is no substitute for bowling in matches.
 
They are mentally groomed so that no Bengali can bowl above 140 kph? Who is doing this stupid grooming?

Don't change Goal Post, if you don't have the answer. Even bowling 150km doesn't help if you chase batsman 1 metre high & 2 metre wide.
 
Interesting point from Nass, all the army training etc is no good if you don't have match fitness. There is no substitute for bowling in matches.

Don't think he was part of the army camp
 
Don't change Goal Post, if you don't have the answer. Even bowling 150km doesn't help if you chase batsman 1 metre high & 2 metre wide.

You can afford one such bowler in your XI , but that bowler has to be on target at least 3 - 4 balls each over.
 
Interesting point from Nass, all the army training etc is no good if you don't have match fitness. There is no substitute for bowling in matches.

Don't think Irfan was part of the army camp.
 
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