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England reach 77/0 at stumps on Day 4 in pursuit of a target of 368 runs against India

Eng needs to simply keeps batting normally. Best chance to daw or even win when you bat normally here.
 
Justcrazy said:
Do not underestimate day 5 pitch , Siraj and Bumrah can get wicket at any stage.
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Wickets can come, but it won't be coming due to pitch. If Pitch deteriorates then it will become harder for Eng.
 
To chase this total England need hundred from one of the openers and solid contributions from rest
 
VVS states Thakur should replace Jadeja as all rounder in team.

Fully agree with him.
 
MP2011 said:
VVS states Thakur should replace Jadeja as all rounder in team.

Fully agree with him.
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Next Test :-

Rohit
Rahul
Pujara
Kohli
Vihari
Pant(wkt)
Thakur
Ashwin
Shami
Yadav/Bumrah
Siraj
 
Justcrazy said:
Let alone 500 , very few teams have chased over 350 in Tests , you can count on finger tips !
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Visaal-E-Yaar said:
Draw is more realistic if england survived.
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If openers can bat at a decent pace for 40 overs, Eng can push for even a win here. But going for a win will allow Indians to pick up wickets.

Best to bat normally till tea and assess the situation then. It is too early to think of win or draw. Just bat long and bat normally. Don't dead bat.
 
No rhythm at all for Jadeja, bowling too full. The action seems to be breaking up as well, not good signs.
 
Partnerships are key in these kind of chases , just try to bat out sessions , play the ball on merit.
 
Justcrazy said:
Let alone 500 , very few teams have chased over 350 in Tests , you can count on finger tips !
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Siraj seems to have some niggle too. Without Siraj and Shami, I don't think India are capable of taking 10 wickets.
 
Last Monetarist said:
No rhythm at all for Jadeja, bowling too full. The action seems to be breaking up as well, not good signs.
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They need him to fire it’s hard for the fast bowlers to take all the wickets India’s lower order were batting easily pitch has gone flat it’s more not succumbing to the pressure now for England.
 
If survives Eng will try to bat normally till tea tmw. By then they would have around 220-250 or more and then assess their chances from there on.
 
England’s weakest link the openers doing well enough firepower in the middle order if they keep wickets in hand.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Inventing reasons for what? You said what has Shardul's inning got to do with it and I just replied. What chances are you talking about here? Why are you so sensitive lol? :inti
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I meant Shardul's innings to do with Pant's

Shardul's was better doesnt mean Pant's was easy/not good as you are implying.
 
starting with a half century opening stand is a good start. The key is to get a century opening stand at least.
The runs are going to just have to come one over at a time. Keep wickets in hand until you're within 150 of the target. The pitch may be flat, but with this many runs in play there's still a very long way to go.
 
Rohit used to be a handy part time off spinner not that long ago. If he gets fit to come back on the field then maybe worth a try against lefties especially
 
So ,fifty runs partnership so far for England , but its far away now , still 316 runs away .
 
Over the last 10 years, spinners haven't had significant impact even in the 4th innings at the Oval. Average of 28.53 and average of 36.6 overall. Moeen outbowled Ashwin in England last time and Jadeja outbowled Ashwin in Australia. So no, Ashwin would not have made any impact on this uber flat pitch had he played.
 
Titan24 said:
Rohit used to be a handy part time off spinner not that long ago. If he gets fit to come back on the field then maybe worth a try against lefties especially
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He has not bowled for long time , if you want to use someone to be used as part time bowler , you need to use him in matches here and there , cannot just suddenly call someone up anytime.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Over the last 10 years, spinners haven't had significant impact even in the 4th innings at the Oval. Average of 28.53 and average of 36.6 overall. Moeen outbowled Ashwin in England last time and Jadeja outbowled Ashwin in Australia. So no, Ashwin would not have made any impact on this uber flat pitch had he played.
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Ashwin have more variations than Jadeja.
 
Justcrazy said:
He has not bowled for long time , if you want to use someone to be used as part time bowler , you need to use him in matches here and there , cannot just suddenly call someone up anytime.
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Agreed but, India have no other spinner (Even part time if I am not wrong) in the XI. With bit of rough here and there for spinners you have to try something.
 
Titan24 said:
Agreed but, India have no other spinner in the XI. With bit of rough here and there for spinners you have to try something.
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India need to get in a batsmen in top 6 who can bowl a bit , maybe they are looking to play Jadeja as that player in Tests . India maybe looking at him as a batting all rounder from now on.
 
Wow this must be a FLAT pitch. Hameed and burns have survived for almost 2 hours. I guess Rohit scoring a hundred was an indication that the pitch was beginning to lose some life
 
India will get the wickets but don’t micromanage it Virat ! What good are tactics if you can’t implement them. India is not England or Pakistan. They have poor control. Its better to give a free hand to all bowlers and let them loose like bulls.
 
I want to know if there will be help for swing bowlers in morning session tomorrow like previous test?
If England survives morning session tomorrow, i think they will win. Indian bowling is looking toothless.
 
England can easily bat to save the test match. Only 2nd new bowl is a concern for them.
 
India have not given too many runs away , that has been good for India. Still nearly 300 runs in the bank , which is pretty big.
 
I don't see Root batting defensively to save the test. Whatever situation he walks in, I expect him to play at a 60+ SR. The problem is apart from Root, England are a pretty inconsistent batting side.
 
Eng needs 291 runs and India needs 10 wickets
 
BunnyRabbit said:
I don't see Root batting defensively to save the test. Whatever situation he walks in, I expect him to play at a 60+ SR. The problem is apart from Root, England are a pretty inconsistent batting side.
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Perfect conditions for bairstow to hit quick 100.
 
This has Jo'burg 2013 written all over it.

The pitch is doing nothing. England will fancy their chances.
 
Saurav said:
don't see how we'll take 10 wickets without Ashwin
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England can collapse but the way their openers played I don't think it will be easy for India. I am more worried about Bairstow. These are perfect conditions for him.

India 65, Eng 25, Draw 10 :inti
 
excellent effort with the bat by england, i think 290 on final day maybe a bit to much. India will be hoping for quick wickets in the morning. should be an exciting day 5.
 
Jadeja getting alot of turn, Burns has played him quite well.
Hameed also struggling slightly against siraj.

Thakur and pants partnership batted england out of the game.

England batting for a draw as they are unlikely to score 300 in one day even on a flat pitch.
 
ROB KEY doesn't feel what might have seemed an unlikely England victory can be ruled out on the final day...

“You’re going into it with all results possible, on a pitch where we don’t know what’s going to happen.

"All history is against them chasing that down but that is such a good pitch, that’s such a good start from England’s openers, who knows?

"What is it, a little over three an over, something like that? It’s going to be a fascinating day.”
 
I am very surprised and pleased that the England openers batted out the session.

291 to win in a day is vey unlikely, unless Root gets another century. He scores so fast that it becomes possible.

Draw is more likely than England win.

I’d say India to win 65%, draw 30%, England win 5%
 
I still think Ind will win but if you wanted a pitch to chase a total like this, then this Oval wicket is perfect. No spin off the straight, no seam movement and the sun out. The poor quality of the England batting is what will stop this win.
 
Robert said:
I am very surprised and pleased that the England openers batted out the session.

291 to win in a day is vey unlikely, unless Root gets another century. He scores so fast that it becomes possible.

Draw is more likely than England win.

I’d say India to win 65%, draw 30%, England win 5%
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Root,Bairstow,Woakes all can bat quick.Reverse the %
 
Like yesterday, first 2 hours are the key for the batting side.

India should win it with 2nd new ball.

Let's see!
 
Jadeja needs a tablet of verbal diarrhoea from Sanjay Manjarekar before he goes for sleep today. The bits and pieces really need to up his game for India to win this test match.
 
Rory Burns and Haseeb Hameed's unbeaten opening stand of 77 runs has set up a fascinating final day at The Oval.

Virat Kohli and Ravindra Jadeja got off to a steady start in the morning, ticking some runs away to slowly increase India's lead. The two opening bowlers — Ollie Robinson and James Anderson failed to make any sort of impact, not generating any lateral movement from the pitch.

It was the introduction of Chris Woakes into the attack, which would turn things around for the hosts. He first trapped Jadeja in front of the stumps on 17, to break the vital partnership. Ajinkya Rahane, out of form in the series, had an early reprieve as he successfully reviewed an lbw call. But his luck wouldn't last long, as it was Woakes again to deliver the breakthrough, as he trapped the Indian vice-captain in front of his stumps for a duck.

Kohli and Pant would take India's lead past the 200-run mark while taking the score over 300. But they had a mighty task on their hands, in order to ensure that India posted a score for England, which would be nigh impossible to chase down.

After looking well set, India lost the wicket of skipper Kohli to Moeen Ali as he edged a straighter delivery to the first slip. Pant, joined by Shardul Thakur, took India into lunch at 329/6, with a lead of 230 runs. The match was wide open and the following session would prove to be vital in turning the tide in favour of a particular team.

In the second session, Thakur and Pant embarked on a brilliant partnership that would tire out the English bowlers. Their stand crossed the 100-run mark, and they played some glorious shots. Thakur in particular looked in brilliant form, carrying on from his run in the first innings.

He brought up his third Test half-century, easily swatting away the English pacers. This led to Joe Root bringing himself in the attack and the decision paid back handsomely, as Thakur edged one to the slips to finally be dismissed after a well-made 60.

Rishabh Pant would also bring up his half-century, his first one of the series, before immediately being caught and bowled by Moeen Ali. But the pair had done their job, ensuring that India's lead had crossed the 300-run mark.

Jasprit Bumrah and Umesh Yadav would then add further salt to the English wounds ahead of tea, with their 31-run stand. India ended the session on 445/8, leading the hosts by 346 runs.

Bumrah was dismissed by Woakes in the second over after the break for 24. Yadav added a couple of boundaries to his name before Overton wrapped up India's innings on 466, setting England a target of 368.

With little movement on offer for the pacers, Rory Burns and Haseeb Hameed looked at ease at the start of the fourth innings and saw off the new ball. Though Jadeja did manage to extract turn off the rough, the openers weren't particularly troubled by it.

With the 77-run unbeaten stand, Burns and Hameed survived the tricky period and took the team through to stumps without losing a wicket.

The hosts will go into the final day still needing 291 runs to win the game.
 
Ab Fan said:
Jadeja needs a tablet of verbal diarrhoea from Sanjay Manjarekar before he goes for sleep today. The bits and pieces really need to up his game for India to win this test match.
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his bowling has been good enough for 5th bowler only.Ashwin is missed.

Now pacers need to do the job
 
90 overs.

England just need to bat normally. Not too defensive, not too aggressive. Just bat.
At the tea break, assuming England are still batting (!), see what the situation is, and maybe have a go at the target if there are a bunch of wickets in hand and the conditions are still good for batting. Otherwise, just take the draw.

I do think that 10 wickets will be hard to come by on this deck in a single day. But if anyone can do it, it is this Indian team. And if anyone can be bad enough to let it happen, it is this England batting lineup lol.
 
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