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England reach 77/0 at stumps on Day 4 in pursuit of a target of 368 runs against India

Ab Fan said:
He batted extremely well today. Resisted given the importance of the match situation and is just on the way to completely end any chance of England to win this series. Need to bat an hour more though.
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Shardul has already done that lol. :inti
 
Good innings by Shardul
We are still not out of the woods
still feel we are 50 short.
donot have Ashwin, its a flat wicket and conditions are sunny and its 26 deg predicted for tommorow.
Root, Malan, pope, moeen and co will go monster in such conditions.
Hopefully jads gets amongst them.
 
What's with this phenomenon of 2 set batsmen following one another to pavilion?

First Rohit & Pujara and now Thakur & Pant.
 
Ab Fan said:
He batted extremely well today. Resisted given the importance of the match situation and is just on the way to completely end any chance of England to win this series. Need to bat an hour more though.
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Lol Risabh Hack Pant. Always looks good when the wicket has nothing in it.
 
Well played Rishabh Pant!

Glimpses of Adam Gilchrist. Delivering in big matches when series is on line. One of the most intimidating batsman in the world, especially when the series is on line.
 
This chase is going to be very very tricky as England have more than 130 over to chase 320 .
 
Savak said:
Not really. Pant looks clueless in seaming swinging conditions and can't hit his way out of trouble there. That's not exactly versatility
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Totally. Oval was the perfect place for both the inductions. Eng doesn’t have many test quality spinners but, still someone like Leech or Bess could have been handy. Absence of Stokes have limited the combinations allowed for Eng as they were never going to go without 4 pacers and decent batting depth.
 
Savak said:
Lol Risabh Hack Pant. Always looks good when the wicket has nothing in it.
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Add to that India already had a healthy lead when he came on to bat. I think Shardul reacted better to these situation and guided Pant in this inning. I would still rate Shardul's inning of 57 in the first inning as the better one though because it brought India back into the match. :inti
 
six by yadav, mo's put in his place.
frankly he's always taken wickets against us but is dud against other oppositon.
This will be fun, our tailenders swinging for the tall timber.
 
England isn't chasing this, not with this batting lineup.
 
Shardul has been the Sam Curran of 2018 in this series. Breathes life into India when things seem going downhill.
England were a 100 short in the first innings. At the Oval unless you bat the opposition out of the game in the second innings, 4th innings chase are almost impossible.
 
Everyone has contributed in this Indian innings, including Rahane who contributed with a duck.
 
Robert said:
No chance, India will win by tea tomorrow at the latest, barring a rainstorm.
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I Don't see any reasons why ENG can't draw this, the wicket is still very good and barring Bumrah and the odd ones from Jadeja ENG should see this through especially considering there is no Ashwin
 
MP2011 said:
Everyone has contributed in this Indian innings, including Rahane who contributed with a duck.
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Lol, dont see him at Manchester.
Either vihari or surya.
But i do see him playing in india in tests.
He is still ne of india's all time best close in fielders and has taken some amazing blinders.
He is a real asset to our spinners , close in.
lets give him that.
 
According to cricviz analysts, this is the flattest day 4 pitch in test cricket since 2018
 
Romali_rotti said:
I Don't see any reasons why ENG can't draw this, the wicket is still very good and barring Bumrah and the odd ones from Jadeja ENG should see this through especially considering there is no Ashwin
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If ENG nanage to draw it will be one of the miraculous ones. Doubt they will be playing the ball on its merit. More likely to mentally implode.
 
Romali_rotti said:
I Don't see any reasons why ENG can't draw this, the wicket is still very good and barring Bumrah and the odd ones from Jadeja ENG should see this through especially considering there is no Ashwin
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Because Root apart, they are a bunch of T20 era hitters who don’t know how to bat long.

They would need someone super adhesive like Boycott or Atherton or Collingwood to drop anchor. Even Root is a shot player not an anchorman.

This will be over by tea tomorrow.
 
Bumrah and Umesh batting with ease and confidence as well
 
England getting thoroughly humiliated now. In this gargantuan chase, a couple of batters will chip in with a hopeful partnership, but England will eventually crumble under pressure. They will be bowled out for 220 and lose.
 
I'm surprised at how we are going super gung ho on indian win
it wont be easy
flat pitch, sunny and 26 tommorow and most importantly - NO Ashwin
Anythng can happen, Root will be monster in such conditions, 2 big partnerships and pressure makes funny things happen
I guess india will play for T from here, and then an hour or so in which they just tee off into kingdom come
and give England a tricky 20 overs or so.
and as i speak, jazz boom middles one...wow
 
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I don't see Kohli declaring until last hour today. That is of course, if we don't get bowled out before that.
 
Should declare now. This is a flat wicket and need atleast 120 overs to get Eng out
 
Shardul 60
Bumrah 18*
Yadav 13*

Really puts into perspective how easy it is to bat there. England will still crumble under scoreboard pressure. :inti
 
350 runs target. India have done the job thanks to Shardul and Rishabh's high quality series defining batting.

4 sessions should be enough to bowl out England. Don't think this batting can chase 350. Heck, two wickets still left. Can add 20-25 runs more.
 
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England also fielded for around 150 overs in the second innings. That will take a toll when they bat last as well
 
Ab Fan said:
Lol, Warne trolling English commies by restricting Anderson's greatness to conducive conditions.
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Nah, English commies should know without someone telling them.
 
This thread is both teams fans trying to convince themselves that they're not going to win lol..
 
The number is already not far off England’s highest chase ever, and the bulk of that target was achieved by Ben Stokes when we witnessed the Miracle of Headingley.

There is no way that England can win this, and even the draw looks unlikely given that we don’t have any specialist blockers anymore — Cook, Collingwood, etc.

Perhaps we should call Cook back in for a stop gap comeback. He’s still scoring a lot of runs for Essex.
 
Buffet said:
Nah, English commies should know without someone telling them.
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They defended straightaway by mentioning the Chennai performance he put early this year. So, it is not really the case.

I won't go much into how great he is but clearly given how cheeky and cocky Warnie is, the England commie would have done better had he just ignored that argument by Warne.
 
Shardul is an underrated player, always contributing, as an all rounder he should be in OD team as well instead of Pandya .

Thakur will add better depth in the team.
 
James said:
The number is already not far off England’s highest chase ever, and the bulk of that target was achieved by Ben Stokes when we witnessed the Miracle of Headingley.

There is no way that England can win this, and even the draw looks unlikely given that we don’t have any specialist blockers anymore — Cook, Collingwood, etc.

Perhaps we should call Cook back in for a stop gap comeback. He’s still scoring a lot of runs for Essex.
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Cook even today would be scoring more than the openers England have tried. His defence is very good and that is key for any opener. Once you have good defence you can score on weak balls.
 
Ab Fan said:
They defended straightaway by mentioning the Chennai performance he put early this year. So, it is not really the case.

I won't go much into how great he is but clearly given how cheeky and cocky Warnie is, the England commie would have done better had he just ignored that argument by Warne.
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Well, publicly they may get riled up, but Anderson is surely a condition-dependent bowler. It does not mean that he is a poor bowler, simply he depends on conditions a lot more than many other bowlers.
 
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Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Add to that India already had a healthy lead when he came on to bat. I think Shardul reacted better to these situation and guided Pant in this inning. I would still rate Shardul's inning of 57 in the first inning as the better one though because it brought India back into the match. :inti
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India's lead was under 200 when he came to bat.Could have easily got out under 250
 
England will now have decided to play with nothing to lose, they just have to enjoy the game.
 
Ab Fan said:
They defended straightaway by mentioning the Chennai performance he put early this year. So, it is not really the case.

I won't go much into how great he is but clearly given how cheeky and cocky Warnie is, the England commie would have done better had he just ignored that argument by Warne.
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One test/series is an exception, not the rule. Lets face it, for the most part of his long career Anderson has not been that effective in non-swinging/seaming conditions. Stats dont lie.
 
Buffet said:
but Anderson is surely a condition-dependent bowler. It does not mean that he is a poor bowler, simply he depends on conditions a lot more than many other bowlers.
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Fast bowling version of Kumble with better average, just that he has played lot more tests than Kumble did.
 
Saurav said:
India's lead was under 200 when he came to bat.Could have easily got out under 250
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Yeah a lead of 200 lol we weren't trailing by 200 so there was hardly any pressure. Haven't you seen how Shardul, Bumrah and Umesh played on this wicket? If he had played like this in India's first inning when we were in danger of getting all out under 150 then you could have called it a special inning but in that inning Shardul brought India back into the game. :inti
 
Good to see Jazz boom do the typical indian sign of reverance to ones trade, by touching the ground and then one's heart , just as he entereed the ground, lot of our olympic atheletes did this , shooters, wrestlers, boxers, the hockey team etc.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Yeah a lead of 200 lol we weren't trailing by 200 so there was hardly any pressure. Haven't you seen how Shardul, Bumrah and Umesh played on this wicket? If he had played like this in India's first inning when we were in danger of getting all out under 150 then you could have called it a special inning but in that inning Shardul brought India back into the game. :inti
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ofcourse there was pressure.250 target would have been easy for England with no Ashwin

Shardul's innings were fab both innings but what's that got to do here lol
 
MP2011 said:
Fast bowling version of Kumble with better average, just that he has played lot more tests than Kumble did.
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Anil Kumble got lots of spinning pitches in India in the 90s but did not get that many in the 2000s

Unlike Anderson who bowled his whole career on favorable pitches in England
 
For Indian supporters, they couldn't have asked for a better day.

Batted two sessions, scored 175+ runs and may add a few more. Ajinkya Rahane had no contributions and got out for duck, so he can be dropped easily now.

There is enough time to get the 10 wickets of England batters.
 
If these 2 are going to stay put, I think we'll definitely bat against 3rd new ball, something which is unimaginable in these days of fragile batting lineups with T20 mindset.
 
NishanKonar said:
Anil Kumble got lots of spinning pitches in India in the 90s but did not get that many in the 2000s

Unlike Anderson who bowled his whole career on favorable pitches in England
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Yeah, that's why Jimmy averages 3 runs lesser than Kumble.
 
Saurav said:
ofcourse there was pressure.250 target would have been easy for England with no Ashwin

Shardul's innings were fab both innings but what's that got to do here lol
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Yeah Shardul's inning has nothing to do with the match and Pant's inning lol. Did you even watch the match? His inning allowed Pant to stay there and get back into form on this flat wicket. If he had gotten out early then Pant would have most likely played a stupid shot like he played in the first inning and got out too. :inti
 
Ab Fan said:
For Indian supporters, they couldn't have asked for a better day.

Batted two sessions, scored 175+ runs and may add a few more. Ajinkya Rahane had no contributions and got out for duck, so he can be dropped easily now.

There is enough time to get the 10 wickets of England batters.
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I think bat 120+ overs on this kind pitch is easy as long as they don't go after target. India should have declared once they have reached 300 lead. It's gonna not easy for bowlers to get regular wickets.pope and root will be key.
 
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If we get bowled out now, we'll get at least 120 overs to take 10 English wickets.
 
Enough over left so no need for dec.btw they don't last more than 2 over here
 
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