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England struggle at 24/3 in their second innings at stumps on Day 2 of the third Test against Pakistan

PakPremi said:
Not my wish lol, just predicting, like I was predicting Pakistan will struggle to get to England total and likely to suicide, Rizwan sweep shot was unnecessary. Hoping Jamal, and Nauman to chip in and support Saud.
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Seems Rizwan didn't see Jamie Smith's PC yesterday. Where he said that 'if Duckett says it's hard to sweep, its impossible to sweep.'
 
PCB really needs to stress on player fitness(especially for fast bowlers), take player development seriously, and prepare balanced pitches otherwise we'll just be a third tier team forever.
 
Unable to comprehend the batting strategy. Aimless blocks as if they are forcing themselves to block the ball. Gillipese Masood combo is pathetic. I will give gillipese the benefit of doubt but he has not brought any positive change so far in his admittedly short stint.
 
G0rmintAunty said:
Wasn't whining unlike your lot does ad nauseum and just related to a few players, I was just making an observation that we should've picked better spinners for this particular pitch.
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Spinning pitch blah blah, bruh whats your solution? And which better spinners you speak off? Mehran is not a big spinner of the ball from what i have heard of him.
 
Pathetic batting - I like Rehan’s attitude but he’s very easy to read. That googly is so telegraphed, but I guess enough for our babies
 
From BBC,

This pitch currently has a PitchViz pace rating of 0.7 (the higher the number, the pacier the pitch) - which makes it the joint-second-slowest pitch in the ball-tracking era for the first two days of a Test.
 
Rana said:

The signs were there. His fans were saying “he will turn up for Pakistan, no one cares about a domestic tournament”
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They always do this.

Step 1: Talk about how he'll show up for International.

Step 2: Talk about different formats by saying if he didn't perform in this format, He'll perform in another

Step 3: Talk about his stats elevating him to bradman

Step 4: If all else fails, Talk about his sri lanka wc 131 and Australia double hundreds in 2019 🫠
 
Rana said:
Let it be noted,

This is a shot he played

-as captain
-in a play off
-with the score at 10-2
-as the team’s number 4 batsman

Baqi aap sab siyane ho
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Let me further add

Rizwan is completely reckless in red ball cricket+ 50 over to some extent

But he plays T20 cricket as if his life depends on not losing his wicket at any cost.

Please explain the mindset of this guy to me?
 
Saud has only one gear. Copy of Azhar Ali. SR of 54 isn't acceptable when wicket are falling around. He has to improve his game a lot if he wants to be considered as a world class batsman.
 
Whenever Pak looks to do tuk tuk this is exactly what happens.

Take a leaf out of how Smith batted and the way they scored in the end.

Try and get as close as possible to 263 quickly.
 
Mainul said:
Saud has only one gear. Copy of Azhar Ali. SR of 54 isn't acceptable when wicket are falling around. He has to improve his game a lot if he wants to be considered as a world class batsman.
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Yep just a left handed AA, the tail are more likely to do damage then him here.
 
Mainul said:
Saud has only one gear. Copy of Azhar Ali. SR of 54 isn't acceptable when wicket are falling around. He has to improve his game a lot if he wants to be considered as a world class batsman.
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Bro he is the only PAK batter who has managed any kind of score on this very difficult pitch and is our only hope. Cut him some slack
 
Noman should be looking to bat it out with said if he chose not to throw his wicket away.
 
BouncerGuy said:
I have no hopes for Shan and Saud. We know that Shan and Saud are mentally weak.
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You are right ... Saud scored some runs thou to feed his avg.. the important thing here is playing impactful knocks..

If he can make a 100 with the tail ( 3 remaining wickets ) and clear the deficit or come close to Eng score giving them less than 20 runs lead then its a good knock..
Can he score another 50 runs from here preserving the tail that would be great.. ??
 
Pakistan batsmen best do their prayers so they can somehow get level with England and make it a 1 Inn shoot out.
 
Rizwan = All 6 mediocre Pakistani batsmen. So all Rhona Dhona against him alone in every thread and in almost every post from some is justified.
 
Saud has settled himself well and seen enough of the pitch and bowlers, and should start to play some shots to move the score quicker, otherwise he will end up losing partners or get a good one himself.
 
I don't really think this is the pitch to go out and play your shots anymore. It has gotten really slow. I think you need to apply yourself on this pitch like Saud has so far and grind it out, while putting the loose balls away. It's pitches like these that test your technique against spin-bowling and so far Saud has shown better technique on this pitch than pretty much any batter in this match.

Jamie Smith batted really well but he had the benefit of receiving some freebies from Zahid and even Sajid, who had gotten tired by that point. And ofocurse the pitch was nowhere near as slow as it has gotten now.
 
TheSultan said:
Who coined the spin Bradman term?
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Basically @RedwoodOriginal and I were having an argument

Regardless, I told hin rizwan would fail and is horrible against spin, even worse then duckett, add on to that Rizwan avg 26 against eng.

ame up with his statistics showing how Rizwan avg 86 against spin while duckett avg 37.

I tried explaining him the context as well as why the stats were faulty considering even Abdullah and Imam were bradman against australia on a 5th day pitch and why No one would ever drop rizwan against nz for sarfi if he truly averaged 86.

86 avg Basically means rizzu is bradman level against spin. I asked him to explain the drop

Sad thing is, He himself knows full well That 86 Avg is a scam and that rizwan is not better then duckett by any means.
 
mominsaigol said:
Basically @RedwoodOriginal and I were having an argument

Regardless, I told hin rizwan would fail and is horrible against spin, even worse then duckett, add on to that Rizwan avg 26 against eng.

ame up with his statistics showing how Rizwan avg 86 against spin while duckett avg 37.

I tried explaining him the context as well as why the stats were faulty considering even Abdullah and Imam were bradman against australia on a 5th day pitch and why No one would ever drop rizwan against nz for sarfi if he truly averaged 86.

86 avg Basically means rizzu is bradman level against spin. I asked him to explain the drop

Sad thing is, He himself knows full well That 86 Avg is a scam and that rizwan is not better then duckett by any means.
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He’s been having a shocker this entire series like Ramiz Raja has
 
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Rana said:
Let me further add

Rizwan is completely reckless in red ball cricket+ 50 over to some extent

But he plays T20 cricket as if his life depends on not losing his wicket at any cost.

Please explain the mindset of this guy to me?
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If rumours are to believed , he is gonna be the next captain for white ball format.
 
mominsaigol said:
Basically @RedwoodOriginal and I were having an argument

Regardless, I told hin rizwan would fail and is horrible against spin, even worse then duckett, add on to that Rizwan avg 26 against eng.

ame up with his statistics showing how Rizwan avg 86 against spin while duckett avg 37.

I tried explaining him the context as well as why the stats were faulty considering even Abdullah and Imam were bradman against australia on a 5th day pitch and why No one would ever drop rizwan against nz for sarfi if he truly averaged 86.

86 avg Basically means rizzu is bradman level against spin. I asked him to explain the drop

Sad thing is, He himself knows full well That 86 Avg is a scam and that rizwan is not better then duckett by any means.
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People forget he was dropped for sarfraz in the last England series. Sarfraz basically schooled the whole team on how to play spin. I thought at that time it was settled how poor he was against spin.

Guess some people haven’t given up on this tailender
 
PakPremi said:
@mominsaigol so basically you yourself called Rizwan Bradman against spin but you are taunting others for it. Lol.
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If someone claims that rizwan has an 86 avg against spin and once I explain the context against it and yet they still argue that rizwan is better then duckett, is a great player of spin and that the 86 vg isn't a scam then what does that entail.
 
TheSultan said:
People forget he was dropped for sarfraz in the last England series. Sarfraz basically schooled the whole team on how to play spin. I thought at that time it was settled how poor he was against spin.

Guess some people haven’t given up on this tailender
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Rizzu is genuine garbage against spin.

That 86 avg was achieved thanks to road cultivation for Babar on home turf.

Telling me rizwan has an 86 avg against spin and using that as a metric to explain why he plays spin better then duckett Is laughable.

So rizwan is better the prime Lara, Prime steve smith, Prime Pointing, Prime Viv, and pretty much every test batter in history against spin except for Bradman?

Rizzu fans have a great cricket mind 🤣🤣
 
Of course 86 average against spin or pace is inflated for any batsman, but if he achieved that thus far in his career then it's good for him. It will go down, just like Saud and Agha averages will go down. No one claims Rizwan legendary player of spin but a good player without his suicidal shots.
 
ask_analyse_act said:
Indeed , enough of this torment , 36 yo rightly so not given chances in the past for this pathetic bowler... On a spin track where 20 wkts taken by spin , couldnt buy a wicket ... drop him forever
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Adding another left-arm spinner would have been better than the damage he did with his spell
 
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