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England v India | 1st Investec Test | July 9-13, 2014 | Nottingham

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Bugger I have to go to bed soon...can't wait for India to collapse. I reckon it will be a draw
 
This is embarrassing from Jadeja at the moment. A quick 30 would have been better. England can't chase 220/230 on a last day.
 
London_Lahori said:
This is embarrassing from Jadeja at the moment. A quick 30 would have been better. England can't chase 220/230 on a last day.
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Ability. You are talking as if he is intentionally doing it.

He is unable to connect bat with ball. Hence he is just blocking stuff to simply stay.
 
Guys call me crazy but India losing these wickets actually gives us a chance.

India is losing those wickets cos there is something in the pitch.

If India can muster up some 200 lead and give England to chase it in 50 overs, the ONUS is on England to survive those overs.

However its risky to give them 200 to chase in 60 overs. Then I would prefer a target of 220 - 230.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
So if Binny saves the day, will you keep him for the next test?

On dry Lords wicket?
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lords wicket hardly assist spinner so no use of taking 2 spinners i would stick to the same line up and tinker with the line up from the 3rd test

if Dhawan fails GG comes in

if Binny and jadeja fail ashwin and rohit sharma

if shami fails ishwar/aaron comes in
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Guys call me crazy but India losing these wickets actually gives us a chance.

India is losing those wickets cos there is something in the pitch.

If India can muster up some 200 lead and give England to chase it in 50 overs, the ONUS is on England to survive those overs.

However its risky to give them 200 to chase in 60 overs. Then I would prefer a target of 220 - 230.
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Forget about all that. This is a five test series and let's take it one step at a time - let's hope that they bat again and Cook gets out early.

The pressure will build on him leading into another test and he's captain as well.

No way we're winning this.
 
Batman_DB said:
lords wicket hardly assist spinner so no use of taking 2 spinners i would stick to the same line up and tinker with the line up from the 3rd test

if Dhawan fails GG comes in

if Binny and jadeja fail ashwin and rohit sharma

if shami fails ishwar/aaron comes in
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Ashwin will be useful with all the lefties in Lords. What do you say about that?

Ashwin even when he was ripped apart in ODIs averages 20's against lefties. Good batman too.
 
Varun said:
Forget about all that. This is a five test series and let's take it one step at a time - let's hope that they bat again and Cook gets out early.

The pressure will build on him leading into another test and he's captain as well.

No way we're winning this.
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Even if we don't win (likely), imagine England ending the day with 5 wickets down and struggling.

Imagine what mindset they will go to the next test.

Its possible. Look at the pitch. We just need an Ishant Sharma special spell.
 
Time for Binny to prove his worth and for jaddu to be sir again
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Ashwin will be useful with all the lefties in Lords. What do you say about that?

Ashwin even when he was ripped apart in ODIs averages 20's against lefties. Good batman too.
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better batsman and more reliable

so you are recommending ashwin for binny? or jadeja?
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Guys call me crazy but India losing these wickets actually gives us a chance.

India is losing those wickets cos there is something in the pitch.

If India can muster up some 200 lead and give England to chase it in 50 overs, the ONUS is on England to survive those overs.

However its risky to give them 200 to chase in 60 overs. Then I would prefer a target of 220 - 230.
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It could be quite comical watching England chase on day 5.
 
England had us on the ropes and now it's back to the same old same old with Plunkett and Stokes bowling.

Only Broad and Anderson are okay bowlers, and only when they have conditions in their favour.
 
Moeen Ali into the attack.

Go on Jadeja, give him a thwack.
 
Saeed said:
Imagine of India do a Pakistan, I mean this http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan-v-england-2012/engine/match/531629.html.
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I was thinking the same. But that looks too good to be true.

Batman_DB said:
better batsman and more reliable

so you are recommending ashwin for binny? or jadeja?
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I am asking you the question. I think Ashwin should play. A spinner's 1-2 wickets helps the team a great deal.

I am asking you whom should he replace if you feel he must come in?
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
I was thinking the same. But that looks too good to be true.



I am asking you the question. I think Ashwin should play. A spinner's 1-2 wickets helps the team a great deal.

I am asking you whom should he replace if you feel he must come in?
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i will stick to jadeja and binny for the 2nd test as i said earlier.. ashwin won't bring much on that pitch as a bowler but it will be and jadeja and Binny's last chance
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
So what would you do when choosing 5 bowlers?

3 pacers - Binny/Ashwin - Jaddu/Ashwin

4 pacers - Binny/Ashwin/Jaddu
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I would probably drop Jadeja for Ashwin. Ashwin is a better Test Bat and Spinner. Lords recently has been a flat deck but when there is considerable cloud cover it can swing around a lot. But it hardly spins the surface stays the same most of the time it actually gets better for batting as the game wears on.
 
Batman_DB said:
i will stick to jadeja and binny for the 2nd test as i said earlier.. ashwin won't bring much on that pitch as a bowler but it will be and jadeja and Binny's last chance
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Ok cool. That's why I posted Ashwin's stats against lefties. Always does well against them.

Even in Australia, he picked up a few lefty wickets.

Anyways, I get your point.
 
Adil_94 said:
I would probably drop Jadeja for Ashwin. Ashwin is a better Test Bat and Spinner. Lords recently has been a flat deck but when there is considerable cloud cover it can swing around a lot. But it hardly spins the surface stays the same most of the time it actually gets better for batting as the game wears on.
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Dhoni will not drop jadeja .
 
Justcrazy said:
Ashwin is as good as binny with bat , in test matches.
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Yes but the question is combination that works in bowling.

Is it worth it to go with 2 spinners in Lords if it isn't going to assist them?

Or Ashwin should come in place of Binny or Jaddu if he comes in at all.
 
Adil_94 said:
I would probably drop Jadeja for Ashwin. Ashwin is a better Test Bat and Spinner. Lords recently has been a flat deck but when there is considerable cloud cover it can swing around a lot. But it hardly spins the surface stays the same most of the time it actually gets better for batting as the game wears on.
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That would be my view too.

But its slightly harsh on Jaddu but I would go for it.

The problem is if Ashwin doesn't pick up wickets or even contains like Jaddu.

This is assuming Lord's has something for a bowler like Binny. Or else I would play 2 spinners or play 1 spinner and 1 proper pacer in place of Binny.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Yes but the question is combination that works in bowling.

Is it worth it to go with 2 spinners in Lords if it isn't going to assist them?

Or Ashwin should come in place of Binny or Jaddu if he comes in at all.
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Dhoni is not seeing things that way . He will keep playing jadeja and make sure he is a ten over bowler at WC .
 
binny has his haters but if you look at seriously india needs a fast bowling all rounder struggled big time off let the only fast bowling all rounder comes to mind is Irfan pathan before that sanjay bangar
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
That would be my view too.

But its slightly harsh on Jaddu but I would go for it.

The problem is if Ashwin doesn't pick up wickets or even contains like Jaddu.
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Yeah i suspect with all the moaning about this pitch. The Lords groundsman will be instructed to leave some grass on the pitch. Which could actually favour Binnys selection. Would be harsh on Jadeja to get dropped though.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
That would be my view too.

But its slightly harsh on Jaddu but I would go for it.

The problem is if Ashwin doesn't pick up wickets or even contains like Jaddu.

This is assuming Lord's has something for a bowler like Binny. Or else I would play 2 spinners or play 1 spinner and 1 proper pacer in place of Binny.
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Ashwin is more attacking sure he might go for a bit but he is more of a wicket taker. Plus against these newbie English lefties he could do well.
 
Batman_DB said:
binny has his haters but if you look at seriously india needs a fast bowling all rounder struggled big time off let the only fast bowling all rounder comes to mind is Irfan pathan before that sanjay bangar
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Problem is that people start to expect too much with the bat from bowling all rounders and then they start working on there batting , as a result batting suffers.

Just encourage them with the ball and take whatever comes with the bat.
 
Justcrazy said:
Problem is that people start to expect too much with the bat from bowling all rounders and then they start working on there batting , as a result batting suffers.

Just encourage them with the ball and take whatever comes with the bat.
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When you an ATG test batsman like Dhoni at No 6, its natural to expect batting from our bowling allrounders.

If not for these 2, India could have been in a match losing position today.
 
Justcrazy said:
Problem is that people start to expect too much with the bat from bowling all rounders and then they start working on there batting , as a result batting suffers.

Just encourage them with the ball and take whatever comes with the bat.
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exactly india needs a bowling all rounder than a batting all rounder
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
When you an ATG test batsman like Dhoni at No 6, its natural to expect batting from our bowling allrounders.

If not for these 2, India could have been in a match losing position today.
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I think over the years Indian tail has often scored well , specially after the induction of greg chappel as coach.
 
Well done to both of them to survive all of these overs, all said and done.

They aren't the most popular players among the public that's for sure.
 
Lead by 187, thanks to this pointless short stuff.
 
Why set such an obvious field and ask Plunkett to bowl 6/6 of the over short? The whole world knows about it starting with the batsman.
 
Justcrazy said:
Yes , Indian batting is good enough
A bowling all rounder can be beneficial in overseas tour.
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thats why for years i was backing Irfan but seeing him in recent i don't anymore as the moment he is neither a batsman nor a bowler
 
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