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England v Pakistan | 1st Test | Lord's | Jul 14-18, 2016 | Day 2

Mamoon said:
No need to cry about the dropped catch. Misbah and Hafeez were also dropped, it's part of the game.

Fielding has cost us before overseas and it will cost us again. Nonetheless, the bowlers have been very poor especially Amir, who is getting milked like a spring goat out there.

Hopefully he will be better in the second spell. Have no hope from others.
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Hafeez's catch was at a much comfortable height as compared to Vince and Root. This 'part of the game's **** is the reason Pakistan find themselves with clowns like Shehzad and Akmal. You know you can fail and still go about your business as a 'super star'. Hafeez has been a liability so far on this tour. As an experienced player, this guy needs to pull up his socks and fast.

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More than often Hafeez just end up annoying me and exactly he did today by dropping a simple chance...I think pakistan need to come up with some plan post lunch at the moment they are looking truly clueless.
 
Mamoon said:
Cook hasn't been entirely convincing so far, but luck is on his side like Misbah.

Looks set for a hundred.
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Misbah's drop chance was a lot tougher than Cook's. That was a regulation drop there by Hafeez.
 
Root is pure class. My favorite batsman at the moment, deserves as much hype as Kohli.
 
aliasad1998 said:
Hes in gully. Misbah can be at first slip!
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I know, he is at gully - there is a thread on PAK slip cordon. Misbah, YK & Azhar should be 1, 2 & 3 - or may be Yasir at 3 as you need your premium spinner out of busy positions.

MoHa's best position is Mid-on, where he can talk "smart" & clap hands - but that's too ordinary spot for his his pedigree. This guy Cook has almost 60% innings under 20, so you know what you can expect once he has crossed that.
 
Misbah needs to give our bowlers a slap around the head at the lunch break!
 
Misbah should show some guts and take out hafeez from slip. I know theyre friends but its neeed
 
Usman Chadda said:
Hafeez's catch was at a much comfortable height as compared to Vince and Root. This 'part of the game's **** is the reason Pakistan find themselves with clowns like Shehzad and Akmal. You know you can fail and still go about your business as a 'super star'. Hafeez has been a liability so far on this tour. As an experienced player, this guy needs to pull up his socks and fast.

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Would be a crime if Younis had dropped it.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Hafeez's catch was at a much comfortable height as compared to Vince and Root. This 'part of the game's **** is the reason Pakistan find themselves with clowns like Shehzad and Akmal. You know you can fail and still go about your business as a 'super star'. Hafeez has been a liability so far on this tour. As an experienced player, this guy needs to pull up his socks and fast.

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Ahmed Shehzad would have caught this one easily at first slip.
 
The Last Of The Stars said:
What an ignorant you are, Imran Khan came back well in that game, was on a hat trick, plus he is our best Test fast bowler on flat tracks, don't call him a trundler.
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If he was going at 5 an over against a second string attack, imagine what England would have done to him.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Hafeez's catch was at a much comfortable height as compared to Vince and Root. This 'part of the game's **** is the reason Pakistan find themselves with clowns like Shehzad and Akmal. You know you can fail and still go about your business as a 'super star'. Hafeez has been a liability so far on this tour. As an experienced player, this guy needs to pull up his socks and fast.

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I also blame Misbah a bit here. Hafeez is a poor slip fielder but he's fielding at first slip, when you have the brilliant Younis and the very good Azhar at second and third spell.
 
Looks like England is preparing for ODI series. 6 Run per over!!!! Really need to improve our bowling
 
Mamoon said:
No need to cry about the dropped catch. Misbah and Hafeez were also dropped, it's part of the game.

Fielding has cost us before overseas and it will cost us again. Nonetheless, the bowlers have been very poor especially Amir, who is getting milked like a spring goat out there.

Hopefully he will be better in the second spell. Have no hope from others.
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Its a part of the game. But Atleast Hafeez shouldnt be fielding in first slip. He is one of the worst slippers in our team and we are deploying him on first slip the most critical position
 
Pakistan needed the lunch break. Time to regroup. Bowling very erratic.
 
Bowling short is pointless cos the bal simply sits up to be thrashed.

Took an eternity to reach Cook that ball.

It was so slow Cook may have actually got bowled from the edge of his bat due to indecision.
 
Mamoon said:
No need to cry about the dropped catch. Misbah and Hafeez were also dropped, it's part of the game.

Fielding has cost us before overseas and it will cost us again. Nonetheless, the bowlers have been very poor especially Amir, who is getting milked like a spring goat out there.

Hopefully he will be better in the second spell. Have no hope from others.
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Ofcourse drop catch is part of the game, but there is a word called "regulation catch" - I have seen Misbah's edge as well. But, that's not the point - the point is why MoHa is there at 1st slip?
 
England will be pleased with their start, heading into lunch.

Worryingly disappointing start for Pakistan. Hafeez's drop could prove costly.
 
Hafeez should not be at 1st slip at all. Misbah or Azhar should be there, if you want Hafeez in slips them put him at 3rd slip.
 
absolutely terrible stuff from everyone concerned.

Rahat is not a very smart guy, Amir is ineffective without swing, Hafeez costly drop, Yasir Shah comical fielding.

Huge disappointment.
 
Who is this young dasher called Cook? ;-)

Good test match, this.
 
This is what i was worried about, there's no containing line and length bowler. Getting hit around from both ends. Perhaps a single righty might have been useful.
 
Amir looks to have a case of nerves.

Rahat is bowling like Rahat.

Wahab is not suited to English conditions until reverse-swing comes into play.

Need to pull their lengths back and play the waiting game. Rahat in particular has got an extravagant boost after getting Hales. Needless attacking lengths.

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It's quite clearly a slow track. Not difficult to score runs on.

Pakistan needs to tighten the screws here after the lunch.
 
By end of the day England may take 100 runs lead!!!:(:( We are playing 70s style test and England is playing modern days test.
 
People are giving up after just one session.

Yasir hasn't even bowled a ball!

England could still be collapsing for 200!
 
If either of these two gets 150+, it will be curtains for Pakistan.

Pakistan's pathetic lower-order batting has cost them again.

Would have taken 339 at the start of the innings but not when we were 280/4.

Can't win Tests in places like England when your batting ends when you are 5-6 down.

England regularly go from scores like 200-5 to 400+ thanks to Bairstow, Stokes, Maulana Moeen etc.

That's the major difference between the two sides.
 
A guarantee win For England!!! luck won't be with Misbah in the second innings and who usually gets perished under pressure along with his buddies :azhar :shafiq , also can't expect anything more than 20+ score from rubbish MoHa :haffez2
 
Don't want to jump to conclusions, but on his return so far, there is some evidence that Amir might end up like Anderson - lethal bowler on green pitches, but not penetrative on flat surfaces.

Not exactly the second coming of Wasim but a quality bowler nonetheless.

Time to kill some of the insane hype.
 
I think Pakistan was demoralized after the batting display today, added 50 odd runs for last 5 wickets.

They will regroup and hit England hard.
 
The problem is not our fielding, it's cricket, some catches are meant to be dropped, the main problem is the poor defensive attitude of our batsmen.
 
Guys stop being so negative. It can all chane in the space of 5 overs. Well come back IA. Amir started to look good and this dukes ball swings more once lacquer wears off after 10 overs
 
GreenKnightRises said:
A guarantee win For England!!! luck won't be with Misbah in the second innings and who usually gets perished under pressure along with his buddies :azhar :shafiq , also can't expect anything more than 20+ score from rubbish MoHa :haffez2
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Akmal would have thrashed this England attack to smithereens.

Pity he isn't playing.

The word "Akmal" incites terror into the hearts of Englishmen.
 
Mamoon said:
Don't want to jump to conclusions, but on his return so far, there is some evidence that Amir might end up like Anderson - lethal bowler on green pitches, but not penetrative on flat surfaces.

Not exactly the second coming of Wasim but a quality bowler nonetheless.

Time to kill some of the insane hype.
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Needs to be given time. Too much hype about the 'you-know-what' before this match. Got Cook in a tangle once or twice. Still bowling pretty well. Needs to remove Hafeez from the slips though.

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The Last Of The Stars said:
The problem is not our fielding, it's cricket, some catches are meant to be dropped, the main problem is the poor defensive attitude of our batsmen.
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I think you always miss the bigger picture.

Our batsmen aren't capable enough of playing at 4 per over for extended periods of time, without throwing away their wickets.

If you DON'T HAVE ABILITY, you can't become world class.

A rock is not going to be called a diamond if someone wraps it around a piece of jewel.

It will still be a rock.
 
aliasad1998 said:
Guys stop being so negative. It can all chane in the space of 5 overs. Well come back IA. Amir started to look good and this dukes ball swings more once lacquer wears off after 10 overs
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He got his line and length right eventually. Was actually setting up Root nicely, didn't really materialise in the end though. I back him to come back well.
 
While I do feel Amir is overhyped, I think he will simply be a world-class bowler and not necessarily a "once in a generation" player. That alone will be good enough.

I think amir will play 12 more years for Pakistan and have 400 test wickets by then.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
I think you always miss the bigger picture.

Our batsmen aren't capable enough of playing at 4 per over for extended periods of time, without throwing away their wickets.

If you DON'T HAVE ABILITY, you can't become world class.

A rock is not going to be called a diamond if someone wraps it around a piece of jewel.

It will still be a rock.
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Everything is possible if you have the attitude for it, despite lacking in abilities. Our batsmen always play like sissies, hence the opposition is made to look like world class, this is a flat pitch, we should have scored 450 at least.
 
Sarfarazian92 said:
Someone else can stand at gully. Hafeez has been deopping sitters since 2011 in the slip cordon and we need a safe catcher like shafiq in there.
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It's honestly a straight swap for me. Misbah should swap with Hafeez. 1st slip doesn't require diving, you just need big hands. Inzy was a good first slip.

Asad is good for Gully as you may need big dives every now and then.
 
Executioner said:
While I do feel Amir is overhyped, I think he will simply be a world-class bowler and not necessarily a "once in a generation" player. That alone will be good enough.

I think amir will play 12 more years for Pakistan and have 400 test wickets by then.
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Let him take his first wicket after comeback, first, then we shall talk about 400 wickets, lol.
 
Time to get back to work, this is rubbish.

This was our best chance to get a decent result, no Anderson and a flat pitch.
 
Well the duke balls start swinging after 10 or so .
Hopefully they can bowl a channel and dry up the runs .
 
The Last Of The Stars said:
Everything is possible if you have the attitude for it, despite lacking in abilities. Our batsmen always play like sissies, hence the opposition is made to look like world class, this is a flat pitch, we should have scored 450 at least.
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We scored exactly what we are capable of.

It's funny that you consider our capabilities as 450 yet consider England's capabilities as 200 or 250.

That tells me you are not in sync with your own team.

Pakistan on the flattest of tracks in Asia is 500 plus team.
Pakistan on the flattest of tracks abroad is a 350 to 400 team.

Pakistan on tricky tracks of abroad is usually a 150-250 team.

England on the flattest tracks of Asia is a 200-250 team.
England on the flattest of tracks of England is 350-450 team.

England on the tricky tracks of Asia is 100-150 team.

Hope that helps in making future predictions from you which are more in touch with reality.
 
Maybe some dahl will put some energy into our bowlers...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nearly lunchtime here, and this is what's on the menu for the players. What would you have? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LoveLords?src=hash">#LoveLords</a> <a href="https://t.co/UWgEDn29gF">pic.twitter.com/UWgEDn29gF</a></p>— Lord's Ground (@HomeOfCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/HomeOfCricket/status/753920469816971264">July 15, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
I feel we will come back well after lunch, some time to collect themselves and focus is good right now. If they (especially Rahat) hadn't bowled so many balls into Cook's pads, England may have been under pressure right now.
 
5th-6th place looks after this series is over. True reflection of our team to be honest, top 3 position certainly flatters these dunces.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
We scored exactly what we are capable of.

It's funny that you consider our capabilities as 450 yet consider England's capabilities as 200 or 250.

That tells me you are not in sync with your own team.

Pakistan on the flattest of tracks in Asia is 500 plus team.
Pakistan on the flattest of tracks abroad is a 350 to 400 team.

Pakistan on tricky tracks of abroad is usually a 150-250 team.

England on the flattest tracks of Asia is a 200-250 team.
England on the flattest of tracks of England is 350-450 team.

England on the tricky tracks of Asia is 100-150 team.

Hope that helps in making future predictions from you which are more in touch with reality.
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He mentioned here that he only follows the Pakistani team. Judging from that, he hasn't watched much cricket outside the UAE and Sri Lanka.
 
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From twitter
Ya Allah, Hafeez ko hadayat day. Ameen
 
What duke ball swings after 10 overs?

What is everyone talking about?

Did it swing for England after 10 overs?

As far as I know, duke will keep swinging if there is something in the air.
 
Time to admit that we are not good enough and we have to keep include promising younger players in order to play fearless cricket. Sarfraz should play on top order and play with positive attitude. Shafiq should swap with Azhar where he can keep tuk tuking and save wicket at one end.
 
Markhor said:
Maybe some dahl will put some energy into our bowlers...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nearly lunchtime here, and this is what's on the menu for the players. What would you have? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LoveLords?src=hash">#LoveLords</a> <a href="https://t.co/UWgEDn29gF">pic.twitter.com/UWgEDn29gF</a></p>— Lord's Ground (@HomeOfCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/HomeOfCricket/status/753920469816971264">July 15, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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No Aloo paratha :murali??
 
i think by the end of play today eng could have 320, i think we missed a trick today, very dissapointed pak didnt get 400 today.

Ali bowled some spin yesterday and got nothing, eng bowled 95% of over with fast bowlers, pak cannot do that. Shah might be expensive today..
 
Sarfraz is no different to Umar and Maqsood with the bat.

Has the attention span of 25-30 deliveries only and loves throwing his wicket regardless of the format.

The 2014-2015 purple patch is over and he is getting exposed now, I'm afraid his career is going one way only.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
We scored exactly what we are capable of.

It's funny that you consider our capabilities as 450 yet consider England's capabilities as 200 or 250.

That tells me you are not in sync with your own team.

Pakistan on the flattest of tracks in Asia is 500 plus team.
Pakistan on the flattest of tracks abroad is a 350 to 400 team.

Pakistan on tricky tracks of abroad is usually a 150-250 team.

England on the flattest tracks of Asia is a 200-250 team.
England on the flattest of tracks of England is 350-450 team.

England on the tricky tracks of Asia is 100-150 team.

Hope that helps in making future predictions from you which are more in touch with reality.
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I don't agree with you, six of our batsmen are averaging above 40 in Test cricket, even it's because of UAE, still it shows they have the ability, they have shown some glimpses of positive attitude in UAE, you can afford to be sissies in UAE, but not overseas.
 
Disciplined start from the pacers after lunch is necessary. No more than 3 runs an over, if they get a wicket in the process, a turn around is still possible.

Someone should remind rahat that getting one wicket does not give him the right to bowl so stupidly. Stick to your lines, take your chances.
 
Markhor said:
Maybe some dahl will put some energy into our bowlers...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nearly lunchtime here, and this is what's on the menu for the players. What would you have? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LoveLords?src=hash">#LoveLords</a> <a href="https://t.co/UWgEDn29gF">pic.twitter.com/UWgEDn29gF</a></p>— Lord's Ground (@HomeOfCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/HomeOfCricket/status/753920469816971264">July 15, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Hotpot and Bread and butter pudding would hit the spot for me. And a helping of the iceceam
 
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