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The series itself has been decided, but ICC Cricket World Cup Super League points will be up for grabs when England face Pakistan in the third ODI at Birmingham.

Overview

England v Pakistan, 3rd ODI
Edgbaston, Birmingham
13 July, 01:00 PM local

The CWCSL has ensured that there are no more dead rubbers in bilateral ODI series as Pakistan, despite having lost the first two matches of the three-match series, could jump to the second spot in the standings with a win in the third ODI.

For that to happen, however, they will have to put on much better performances than what they have shown in the series so far, especially the batsmen. After rare back-to-back failures with the bat for Babar Azam, the skipper will be looking to lead from the front in the final game of the series.

England, meanwhile, have proved why they have been one of the best white-ball teams in the world in the past few years, making the best use of the resources available to them in unprecedented circumstances.

Ben Stokes will be looking to complete the sweep and consolidate their position at the top for the CWCSL table. Expect a few more maiden caps to be handed out today as the hosts could look to experiment with their team combination.

Remember the last time

Lewis Gregory's all-round Player of the Match-winning performance helped England register a comprehensive 52-run win and clinch the series in a rain-curtailed second ODI at Lord's.

Pakistan bowlers made early inroads and scalped Dawid Malan and Zac Crawley within the first five overs before fifties from Phil Salt and James Vince consolidated the innings. The visitors triggered a collapse in the middle overs as England went from 118/2 to 160/7. Playing in just their second ODIs, Gregory and Brydon Carse strung together a 69-run partnership to help the hosts put 247 runs on board in 47 overs. Hasan Ali was the star of the show for Pakistan as he registered his fourth ODI five-for.

Gregory and Saqib Mahmood got England off to a great start with the ball, reducing Pakistan to 38/3 in the first nine overs. Saud Shakeel found some support in Sohaib Maqsood and Shadab Khan but that wasn't enough to bail the tourists out of trouble. Hasan Ali scored a 17-ball 31 but the asking rate was too much for the Pakistan tail and they fell short by 52 runs.

What they said

England captain Ben Stokes: "There's no better way in international cricket than to put your hand up and deliver under that sort of pressure. We've won the series already, but there's nothing better than continuing the winning streak. We'll take the same mindset into the next game, and if anything we'll come harder."

Pakistan captain Babar Azam: "Hopefully we can sort things out before the next game. The way Hasan bowled and Shakeel batted, these are good positives for us. Focus is to do well in the next game because there are still Super League points on offer."

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Most likely they will make only one change Husnain in for Haris Rauf. Usman Qadir serves to play ahead of Fahim, and had he or Nawaz played in last game Pakistan would have been 1-1, as England were more likely to struggle against spin then Fahim's ineffective medium pace.
 
I'd play the following team -

Fakhar
Rizwan (k)
Abdullah Shafique
Babar (c)
Maqsood
Saud Shakeel
Mohammad Nawaz
Hasan Ali
Hasnain
Usman Qadir
Shaheen
 
Forward Defensive Push said:
I'd play the following team -

Fakhar
Rizwan (k)
Abdullah Shafique
Babar (c)
Maqsood
Saud Shakeel
Mohammad Nawaz
Hasan Ali
Hasnain
Usman Qadir
Shaheen
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Abdullah has no List A experience.

Babar doesn't have the game for #4.

Saud will be useless down the order.

I like the idea of Rizwan opening, but our management is not forward-thinking, so I don't expect anything of the sort.
 
Are there any chances of changes for today's game? Or will I have to contend with shadab and faheem listed in the same line up again
 
UzmanBeast said:
Abdullah has no List A experience.

Babar doesn't have the game for #4.

Saud will be useless down the order.

I like the idea of Rizwan opening, but our management is not forward-thinking, so I don't expect anything of the sort.
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We need to maximize our best player who is undoubtedly Rizwan. He HAS to open. No two ways about it. He has shown that in T20s and will easily settle down in ODIs as well. He has the game for the role.

Abdullah will come good. Just need to provide enough opportunities in top 3. Babar needs to sacrifice some of his pointless stats and rally the middle order which is clearly the weak point of this team.

There are no real options other than Saud for us. Maybe play Shadab/Faheem at 6. We need Maqsood to play at 5 to give him as many overs as possible.
 
Fakhar
Sharjeel
Babar
Saud
Rizwan
Maqsood
Faheem
Nawaz
Qadir/Hasnain
Hassan
Shaheen
 
What we need to do today is forget about winning. Give the guys on the bench a turn.

Our top side has been rattled by England’s top domestic side, how bad can our second choice players really be?
 
Forward Defensive Push said:
We need to maximize our best player who is undoubtedly Rizwan. He HAS to open. No two ways about it. He has shown that in T20s and will easily settle down in ODIs as well. He has the game for the role.

Abdullah will come good. Just need to provide enough opportunities in top 3. Babar needs to sacrifice some of his pointless stats and rally the middle order which is clearly the weak point of this team.

There are no real options other than Saud for us. Maybe play Shadab/Faheem at 6. We need Maqsood to play at 5 to give him as many overs as possible.
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Agree with this, Rizwan has to open to maximise his potential. I think Abdullah will come good, usually those who are great at an early age are ahead of the curve. Better them than picking guys with average records, at least he's used to excelling at some age. I am a bit confused why he's played so few games though with his hype/potential. At 21 for a guy who has been earmarked as some future prodigy I would have thought he'd have played more domestic games at that age. Might be a little early to blood him in, I'd rather he proved himself in domestic first, but the guy has already excelled in domestic in the few games he played.

I'd never play Shadab and Faheem at 6 though they're not good enough with the bat. I'd rather play Saud or Abdullah even out of position than them. At least they will get international practice with the bat.
 
We’ve lost the series so may as well hope for an England win, which could result in Misbah, Waqar and Mo Wasim getting sacked.

The chief selector picked an all rounder with an average of 11 with bat and 40 with ball, and I hope he gets asked about this selection.

Misbah choosing to play no specialist spinner in an ODI, and also playing imam should also result in a sacking.

Waqar Younis has been all talk, his 2 years are up and he ain’t got Amir to use as a scapegoat, he’s got to go.

CMONNNN ENGLAND…C
 
Pakistan have very little resource to utilise, it is quiet sad, I don’t think many can complain too much about the best XI.

Hasnain can come in for Rauf who didn’t do too badly in the last game by his standards.

Nawaz is the only justifiable change in the team and he can get a go in place of Faheem.

I’d like to see a specialist spinner but Shadab bowled well in the last game and gives Pakistan some useful runs to.

Abdullah has very little experience to the point where how can one even feel compatible dropping Imam despite his failures. Maqsood should get another look, they could drop him for Sharjeel but not a lot between the two.

As for the Batting order, very few complaints from me; Riswan still gets the chance to bat in the top order really and Fakhar/Imam has largely worked by Pakistani standards, but they can change things up but I really don’t see a massive benefit
 
shaz619 said:
Pakistan have very little resource to utilise, it is quiet sad, I don’t think many can complain too much about the best XI.

Hasnain can come in for Rauf who didn’t do too badly in the last game by his standards.

Nawaz is the only justifiable change in the team and he can get a go in place of Faheem.

I’d like to see a specialist spinner but Shadab bowled well in the last game and gives Pakistan some useful runs to.

Abdullah has very little experience to the point where how can one even feel compatible dropping Imam despite his failures. Maqsood should get another look, they could drop him for Sharjeel but not a lot between the two.

As for the Batting order, very few complaints from me; Riswan still gets the chance to bat in the top order really and Fakhar/Imam has largely worked by Pakistani standards, but they can change things up but I really don’t see a massive benefit
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Of course not. This is the best team that we can come up with apart from a few changes, some of which you’ve mentioned, in the bowling and it highlights the lack of talent we have in our system.

This last match, I’m my opinion, is an opportunity to mix things up. Give side liners opportunities to play and let’s see what they can do. Sure it won’t have a lasting effect on the team selection but it’s an opportunity to see what some guys can do. At this point it doesn’t matter if we lose 2-0 or 3-0, but I’d much rather watch us lose 3-0 by giving people opportunities to play than to lose 3-0 with the same bunch of players
 
Forward Defensive Push said:
We need to maximize our best player who is undoubtedly Rizwan. He HAS to open. No two ways about it. He has shown that in T20s and will easily settle down in ODIs as well. He has the game for the role.

Abdullah will come good. Just need to provide enough opportunities in top 3. Babar needs to sacrifice some of his pointless stats and rally the middle order which is clearly the weak point of this team.

There are no real options other than Saud for us. Maybe play Shadab/Faheem at 6. We need Maqsood to play at 5 to give him as many overs as possible.
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How do you feel about the idea of Maqsood and Fakhar opening? Granted, our management won't think about it, but it is likely to give us good positive starts. The issue I find with Maqsood in the middle order is that he doesn't put a price on his wicket, he wants to go hard at the ball and doesn't play according to the situation. It is a horrible mindset for the middle overs, but if he's a top-order batsman, he gets to create the situation, and he has the full luxury to go hard at the ball and set the tone. On flat pancakes, an opening partnership of Fakhar and Maqsood is likely to hammer most bowling attacks.

The thing with Rizwan is that I like him as a player, but asking him to open in ODI cricket is too much given that he doesn't really have the technique for the moving ball. He's a lower-middle order batsman in test cricket, and swing is negligible in T20 cricket, so there isn't any evidence that he will succeed at the top in conditions where the ball is likely to swing.

For me, Fakhar and Maqsood is the ideal opening combination, regardless of the conditions. Maqsood loves pace on the ball and clears the infield quite nicely. Fakhar will dispatch spin when it comes and has good shots against short-pitched bowling. The reason I suggest this combination is because once you bunt the white ball around early on, it will stop swinging though it might seam a little. Seam on it's own is much easier to face compared to a combination of the ball swinging and seaming.

Babar has to bat at 3, but he has to bat deep because the team relies on his role as the anchor. His game is perfect for that position, because once you take him down to 4, it requires him to be much better against spin, which he isn't really confident in.

Saud has shown his temperament, and his solid technique merits a spot for him at 4, where he can help play the spinners and also contribute with the ball. He needs to bat with the players who can hold a bat, it will bring the best out of him.

Unfortunately, I think that if Rizwan can't fit into the top 4, he doesn't make the team, and so, I'd include Sarfaraz ahead of him at 5 where he can pump the spinners and also slog a bit when the pace comes on. He's not a long-term solution, and dare I say this, but with our current middle-order, a better version of Umar Akmal with both bat and gloves might be on the radar of the selectors.

The top order is our issue, but if we include Imad, we probably get the best ODI team we can put together with our limited resources.
 
Looks like we are heading for whitewash. M Wasim could be scapegoat for the whitewash.
 
Will it be another usual start for Pakistan 20-2 with Babar choking from the front ? I hope not .
 
We deserve to lose this game.

How do you go into a dead rubber with an unchanged team? Might as well have brought only 11 players for the whole series
 
Misbah and Babar the bottler have lost it. Seriously Faheem and Rauf. If not giving chances to youngsters now then when. And how Faheem makes the playing eleven. I never wish us to lose but this is first time i want us to lose badly.
 
Mahmood’s overs in the first 10 will be the key. He is the one who has changed the complexion of games and Pak innings in both the matches in my opinion.
 
shaz619 said:
Pakistan have very little resource to utilise, it is quiet sad, I don’t think many can complain too much about the best XI.

Hasnain can come in for Rauf who didn’t do too badly in the last game by his standards.

Nawaz is the only justifiable change in the team and he can get a go in place of Faheem.

I’d like to see a specialist spinner but Shadab bowled well in the last game and gives Pakistan some useful runs to.

Abdullah has very little experience to the point where how can one even feel compatible dropping Imam despite his failures. Maqsood should get another look, they could drop him for Sharjeel but not a lot between the two.

As for the Batting order, very few complaints from me; Riswan still gets the chance to bat in the top order really and Fakhar/Imam has largely worked by Pakistani standards, but they can change things up but I really don’t see a massive benefit
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Fakhar and Imam have an average opening partnership of 45, which is good for our standards.

However, it is heavily inflated due to 700+ runs against Zimbabwe in 2018, which makes me think in reality, it stands at about 34-ish, which isn't great.

I'd invest in Abdullah once he has played a few FC and List A seasons, it's too young to bring him in.

Hasnain should come in for Rauf, but I doubt it will happen. Current management likes Rauf for some odd reason.

I think Pakistan should win, they've gotten more than enough chances to acclimatize.
 
What was then Waqar shaking his head at when seeing Faheem bowling. If they don't have confidence in him why play him. What nonsensical team selection is this
 
Babar Azam:

"We have lost the series but we are trying to win the match and get the momentum back for the T20 series. We have struggled in the last two matches (against the new ball) but we will try our level best in this one and are looking forward."
 
Looks like Misbah already knows for sure he has full support from PCB and IK, so he is not too desperate to win a match and do necessary changes.
 
Babar and Imam are the two culprits at the top.not scoring any runs and falling like a pack of cards.
 
Misbah really has destroyed pakistan cricket.

It's so unfortunate for Pakistan cricket fans that this guy played for Pakistan.The worst ever.
 
Incompetence at its finest.

Everything rests on the shoulders of Fakhar and Babar. If they perform, we have every chance of winning. Let's hope they can do what is needed from them.
 
Pakistan fans should boycott the team if they lose today.
 
Yasir_ch said:
Misbah really has destroyed pakistan cricket.

It's so unfortunate for Pakistan cricket fans that this guy played for Pakistan.The worst ever.
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He was the only Pakistani captian to win the test mace so ummmm

Also he took over when the spot fixing scandal was happening. No one was complaining when he was winning us matches
 
No disrespect to Imam, I want him to succeed, but it would be quite the hat-trick if he gets out on 2 and miraculously gets bowled.

LBW, Edged, Bowled.

0, 1, 2.
 
UzmanBeast said:
Fakhar and Imam have an average opening partnership of 45, which is good for our standards.

However, it is heavily inflated due to 700+ runs against Zimbabwe in 2018, which makes me think in reality, it stands at about 34-ish, which isn't great.

I'd invest in Abdullah once he has played a few FC and List A seasons, it's too young to bring him in.

Hasnain should come in for Rauf, but I doubt it will happen. Current management likes Rauf for some odd reason.

I think Pakistan should win, they've gotten more than enough chances to acclimatize.
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Fair points.

Regarding Abdullah the issue for me is that Pak team have kept on travelling with him and he missed the whole QAE season and majority of the Pakistan Cup as well last year.

If he wasn’t ready than he shouldnt have been selected and travelling around while his on field growth is halted. Same was the case with Haider who just played a few T20s with Pak and his growth as a batsman couldn’t continue in domestic cricket.

Unless such young players are good enough to make the XI regularly in atleast two formats than they shouldn’t be selected in my opinion as while they learn by being in the team but, their overall growth and learning as a batsman on felid takes a back seat if they are missing domestic seasons.
 
Unchanged team... Can someone explain the logic behind this....if possible 🤔
 
Looks like Misbah already knows for sure he has full support from PCB and IK, so he is not too desperate to win a match and do necessary changes.
 
Teams usually don't change a winning combination, Pakistan is unique they believe in not changing a losing combination. 😁
 
Knew there might be no charges after Saud said this is the best team in an interview post 2nd match.
 
UzmanBeast said:
How do you feel about the idea of Maqsood and Fakhar opening? Granted, our management won't think about it, but it is likely to give us good positive starts. The issue I find with Maqsood in the middle order is that he doesn't put a price on his wicket, he wants to go hard at the ball and doesn't play according to the situation. It is a horrible mindset for the middle overs, but if he's a top-order batsman, he gets to create the situation, and he has the full luxury to go hard at the ball and set the tone. On flat pancakes, an opening partnership of Fakhar and Maqsood is likely to hammer most bowling attacks.

The thing with Rizwan is that I like him as a player, but asking him to open in ODI cricket is too much given that he doesn't really have the technique for the moving ball. He's a lower-middle order batsman in test cricket, and swing is negligible in T20 cricket, so there isn't any evidence that he will succeed at the top in conditions where the ball is likely to swing.

For me, Fakhar and Maqsood is the ideal opening combination, regardless of the conditions. Maqsood loves pace on the ball and clears the infield quite nicely. Fakhar will dispatch spin when it comes and has good shots against short-pitched bowling. The reason I suggest this combination is because once you bunt the white ball around early on, it will stop swinging though it might seam a little. Seam on it's own is much easier to face compared to a combination of the ball swinging and seaming.

Babar has to bat at 3, but he has to bat deep because the team relies on his role as the anchor. His game is perfect for that position, because once you take him down to 4, it requires him to be much better against spin, which he isn't really confident in.

Saud has shown his temperament, and his solid technique merits a spot for him at 4, where he can help play the spinners and also contribute with the ball. He needs to bat with the players who can hold a bat, it will bring the best out of him.

Unfortunately, I think that if Rizwan can't fit into the top 4, he doesn't make the team, and so, I'd include Sarfaraz ahead of him at 5 where he can pump the spinners and also slog a bit when the pace comes on. He's not a long-term solution, and dare I say this, but with our current middle-order, a better version of Umar Akmal with both bat and gloves might be on the radar of the selectors.

The top order is our issue, but if we include Imad, we probably get the best ODI team we can put together with our limited resources.
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I like the idea of Maqsood opening but Rizwan will be laid waste if he comes down the order. With Maqsood coming down the order, you have a guy who can really propel the score with big hits. He can be extremely useful between 30-40 overs which are the new slog overs in one day internationals. Rizwan has decent technique to survive the initial 4-5 overs in ODIs and I feel he can really complement Fakhar with his solidity and ability to rotate strike.

Babar is indeed a limited batsman and only has the game for a number 3 at this point. If he develops well in the next year or so, it really opens up the options and solidifies the middle order. And yes, Imad is a must. Way better option than say Faheem for one dayers.
 
Unbelievable to see Pakistan play unchanged!
With Shadab, Faheem and Rauf they are playing an 8 member team already
 
Cant believe they havent made any changes. This is classic Misbah. Now we're again playing ODI cricket with same defeatist mindset.
There are more chances of snowfall in karachi than faheem performing in LOI cricket during next 10 years
 
ads101 said:
Agree with this, Rizwan has to open to maximise his potential. I think Abdullah will come good, usually those who are great at an early age are ahead of the curve. Better them than picking guys with average records, at least he's used to excelling at some age. I am a bit confused why he's played so few games though with his hype/potential. At 21 for a guy who has been earmarked as some future prodigy I would have thought he'd have played more domestic games at that age. Might be a little early to blood him in, I'd rather he proved himself in domestic first, but the guy has already excelled in domestic in the few games he played.

I'd never play Shadab and Faheem at 6 though they're not good enough with the bat. I'd rather play Saud or Abdullah even out of position than them. At least they will get international practice with the bat.
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On Abdullah he has played for CP second XI (really good season, top of the charts for second XI, debut FC century) and the following season was supposed to play for the 1st for the full season. Topped the T20 charts and was about to go into the FC season. Then Misbah decided to call him for Zim series, which he spent on the bench (1 match out of 6). After that NZ where he was supposed to play the Pakistan A games (two FC matches), got neither because again T20. Had a horror show in two T20s and that was the tour and the season. Now here we are. I don't know what was going through their heads when they made the decision (well I say their, it was Misbah who was the head coach and the CS at the time).

I don't mind him/upcoming players travelling with the team but they should be in serious consideration for a spot and get a few games here and then. Picking them just for the bench (when they aren't even the backup choice), especially when it means missing A games and FC season is criminal.
 
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Unchanged team!!!??? Pathetic Just PATHETIC!!!!! And some people (minority) criticised me for calling for a coaching change in my thread!!! Did the management fall asleep and forget to change the team sheet from the last game, that would be a more valid excuse than just keeping a loser 11!!
 
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Love how opposite the team managements operate in India and Pakistan.

Here, Kohli is the all powerful dictator while Shastri is his yesman puppet and across the border, we have a "dummy" captain with the coach calling all the shots. :91:
 
Shan Masood has a list A average of 57, wonder why he hasn't gotten more chances in odis
 
Some England players are wearing white thermals on like stokes. Be interesting to see if he bowls surely it’s distracting to the batsman?
 
They need to disrupt Mahmood’s lengths, cant allow him to keep bowling in the areas he have been bowling.
 
imshally81 said:
Unchanged team... Can someone explain the logic behind this....if possible ��
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I doubt it matters when the series is lost already.

Might as well persist the people who have played the earlier two games. They may have learned from the experience and have the best chance of getting you a 2-1, which is better than a 3-0.
 
sindhiboy said:
Shan Masood has a list A average of 57, wonder why he hasn't gotten more chances in odis
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Valid question but, I believe he is a similar kind of player like we have few in the team. Can be good for a 2nd XI to do Imam’s role but wont give much different to what we already have. Yes of he can become bit more dynamic as he tried in PSL then he can put up a good case.

As I believe Pak needs more batsmen who can once set take the attack to opposition sensibly rather than more compact batsmen without 5th gear or sloggers. So these are the kind of batsmen Pak is lacking and places are up for taking if anyone can put his hand up to fill the requirements.
 
Idiot Fakhar trying to run out his partner once again like he did to Sohaib in the first Odi. Very dumb and stupid batsman.
 
Bench strength isn’t there to warm benches. It needs to be put in action only to test them. It’s not like pak domestic cricket is as good as it’s in India , Australia or England where your bench strength is as good as your playing 11. Misbah has been the biggest loss for the team. It’s his lack of planning for future that has come to haunt the team today.
 
Imam ul haq is a kind of player who'll never make the opposition pay after getting a life
 
Imam problem is that his right foot doesn’t comes in line with the delivery. Thats why he gets trapped typical left hander problems early on where it is seaming around. Pakistan should have tried Abdullah here. Misbah or Babar both seems be reluctant to take risks. You cannot develop players for future like this. I never expected Pak to win the series anyway. In ODI we are struggling for a long time, and it is due to not playing let me say this again not playing specialist batsmen.
 
Saqib wicketless for two overs, thats a big surprise. :smith
 
Fakhar is so awfull...how can u learn from.ur mistakes..he cant hit.anythingon his legs...
 
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