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He was forced out because he didn't. But you who did beg to keep his job? Yes Munir begged Bushra Bibi after Bajwa kicked out Munir for being corrupt.
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I have been hearing this argument from people of Pakistan for decades that at least X is better than Y. Its time to disown this system, military rule is an impediment to progress in Pakistan and it doesn't matter if you get General A being better.
The country will go nowhere!
Pakistan has already lost half of it due to Generals, at what cost will the people of Pakistan put their hand up and say "No more!"
Politicians are not good enough.
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Pakistan's Asim Munir threatens India again, rekindles Kashmir issue
Pakistani Army Chief Asim Munir on Saturday claimed that India had made two unprovoked attacks, terming it a troubling absence of strategic foresight.
Speaking at the Pakistan Naval Academy in Karachi, Munir blamed India for escalating regional tensions and vowed a decisive response to any future Indian aggression. He further called Pakistan a "net regional stabiliser," claiming that Islamabad had responded "resolutely" to "unprovoked" Indian military aggression.
He further called Pakistan a "net regional stabiliser," claiming that Islamabad had responded "resolutely" to "unprovoked" Indian military aggression.
"Despite provocations, Pakistan displayed restraint and maturity, reaffirming its commitment to regional peace," he said.
Munir claimed that India deliberately created tension in the region just as Pakistan was nearing the elimination of terrorism.
In the address, Munir once again brought up Kashmir, claiming that "at such a time, we must remember the sacrifices of our Kashmiri brothers who are struggling against Indiaās illegal occupation."
āPakistan is a strong advocate for a just resolution of the Kashmir issue in accordance with United Nations resolutions and the aspirations of the Kashmiri people,ā he added.
Munir had termed Kashmir as Pakistan's 'jugular vein' just days before the horrific Pahalgam terror attack that killed 26 civilians.
"Kashmir is our jugular vein; it will remain our jugular vein; we will not forget it," Munir had said, addressing the Pakistani diaspora abroad.
In response to the deadly attack, India put the Indus Waters Treaty on hold, a decisive blow to its neighbour. This was followed by the launch of Operation Sindoor, which targeted and demolished terror launchpads deep inside Pakistan.
A three day military escalation followed as Pakistan and India launched multiple attacks on each other from May 7 to 10.
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@Romali_rotti - See, didn't I tell you this yesterday? They'll never learn irrespective of how much further their country sinks.
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Not at all keeping in mind all the nuisance, and human lives we have lost since 1947 because of them.
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It's their leadership that's the issue. The avg Pakistani citizen don't have any stake in this mess...
Either way, as I always maintained over the last decade or so on PP: Pakistan is a lost cause, they won't see the light and they are not going come out of this hole.
It is what it is, just let it be..
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When your country's economy depends on bailouts from the IMF, and you keep breaking your own previous records of knocking the IMF's door, what else do you expect? Even blind Freddie can see what you said.
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Today pak got 3.2 b usd again from China to keep its forex in sufficient floating range.if they are surviving on loans to be in floating mode, its nothing left for future.
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Your agenda has always been known and personal attacks will not mask it. Can you answer what Imran Khan's sister said in May? What were the PTI supporters saying then? Your method has always been to go after patriots. Shameful.
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Did you even see Pakistan's statement on Iran? You should be banned for spreading misinformation. Since when has Trump become the gold standard for truth?
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Asim Munir has muslim blood on his hands.
He sat there and let Trump speak on his behalf selling his soul and his nation's dignity by nominating Trump for Nobel Peace Prize who has been complicit in attacks on muslims.
Imran would never have done that.
He had his flaws but he was a proud muslim.
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Yes I did. Deeds, not words. PK betrayed Iran so that Munir could avoid the crate of Mangoes.
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GUYS, WATCH YOUR POSTS... NO PERSONAL STUFF
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Since he announced the Sindoor ceasefire...you can't choose when it is convenient for you.
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yyou argue with urself and than claim that own posters...ok
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Not really. Every Pakistani pushed back against Indiaās illegal aggression and dismantled their misinformation in real time, so effectively that India had to scramble a delegation of diplomats. And yet, they keep recycling the same fantasies to soothe their bruised egos. So if anyoneās speaking the same language, itās you and the Indians.
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I've always maintained that the biggest threat to Pakistan is not India, it is the establishment leadership and the cabal of murderous crooks that form the current government
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Well in this case I do. Last you forget he was the same tool that thought the governor of Punjab was fake even though we had national tv programmes discussing the implications of his confession of the election theft
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US hosts Pakistan military chief at White House, India responds by warming to China
US President Donald Trump's lunch meeting with Pakistan's military chief prompted a private diplomatic protest from India in a warning to Washington about risks to their bilateral ties, while New Delhi is recalibrating relations with China as a hedge, officials and analysts said.
The meeting and other tensions in the US-India relationship, after decades of flourishing ties, have cast a shadow on trade negotiations, they said, as Trump's administration weighs tariffs against one of its major partners in the Indo-Pacific.
India blames Pakistan, especially its military establishment, for supporting what it calls cross-border terrorism and has told the US it is sending the wrong signals by wooing Chief of Army Staff (COAS) Field Marshal Syed Asim Munir, three senior Indian government officials directly aware of the matter told Reuters.
It has created a sore spot that will hamper relations going forward, they said.
Pakistan denies accusations that it supports militants who attack Indian targets and that New Delhi has provided no evidence that it is involved.
US-India ties have strengthened in the past two decades despite minor hiccups, at least partly because both countries seek to counter China.
The current problems are different, said Michael Kugelman, a Washington-based senior fellow at the Asia Pacific Foundation think tank.
"The frequency and intensity with which the US is engaging with Pakistan, and seemingly not taking Indian concerns into account, especially after India's recent conflict with Pakistan, has contributed to a bit of a bilateral malaise."
"The concern this time around is that one of the triggers for broader tensions, that being Trump's unpredictability, is extending into the trade realm with his approach to tariffs," he said.
Prime Minister Narendra Modi's office and India's foreign ministry did not respond to a request for comment. The foreign ministry has previously said that it had "taken note" of the Trump-Munir meeting.
A US official said they do not comment on private diplomatic communications and that the United States enjoys strong relationships with both India and Pakistan.
"These relationships stand on their own merits, and we do not compare our bilateral relationships with one another," the US official said.
LUNCH AT THE WHITE HOUSE
The US seems to have taken a different tack on Pakistan after a brief conflict broke out between the nuclear-armed rivals in May when India launched strikes on what it called terrorist targets across the border in response to a deadly attack on tourists from the majority Hindu community in Indian Kashmir the previous month.
After four days of aerial dogfights, missile and drone attacks, the two sides agreed to a cease-fire.
Hindu-majority India and Islamic Pakistan have skirmished regularly and fought three full-scale wars since independence in 1947, two of them over the disputed Kashmir region.
A few weeks after the May fighting, Trump hosted Munir for lunch at the White House, a major boost in ties with the country, which had largely languished under Trump's first term and Joe Biden. It was the first time a US president had hosted the head of Pakistan's army, considered the most powerful man in the country, at the White House unaccompanied by senior Pakistani civilian officials.
Indian leaders have said Munir's view of India and Pakistan is steeped in religion. "Tourists were murdered in front of their families after ascertaining their faith," Indian foreign minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar said in May, referring to the Kashmir attack.
"To understand that, you've got to also see...you have a Pakistani leadership, especially their army chief, who is driven by an extreme religious outlook".
Pakistan says it is Modi who is driven by religious extremism, and that his brand of Hindu nationalism has trampled on the rights of India's large Muslim minority. Modi and the Indian government say they do not discriminate against minorities.
Munir's meeting in the White House added to India's chagrin over Trump's repeated insistence that he averted nuclear war between the two nations by threatening to stop trade negotiations with them. The comment drew a sharp response from Modi, who told Trump that the ceasefire was achieved through talks between army commanders of the two nations, and not US mediation.
In the days following his June 18 meeting with Munir, people from Modi's office and India's national security adviser's office made separate calls to their US counterparts to register a protest, two of the officials said. The protest has not been previously reported.
"We have communicated to the US our position on cross-border terrorism, which is a red line for us," said a senior Indian official. "These are difficult times ... Trump's inability to understand our concerns does create some wrinkle in ties," he added, seeking anonymity due to the sensitivity of the matter.
Trump and Munir discussed continuation of a counter-terrorism collaboration, under which the US has previously provided weapons to Pakistan, a non-NATO US ally, and talked about ways to further strengthen ties, a Pakistani readout of the meeting said.
That raised concern in New Delhi that any arms Pakistan receives from the US could be turned on India if the neighbours end up in conflict again, two of the officials said.
HARDER STANCE
Despite what used to be public displays of bonhomie between Trump and Modi, India has been taking a slightly harder stance against the US in recent weeks, while trade discussions have also slowed, the Indian officials and an Indian industry lobbyist said.
Modi declined an invitation from Trump to visit Washington after the G7 meeting in Canada in June.
Earlier this month, New Delhi proposed retaliatory duties against the US at the World Trade Organization, showing trade talks were not going as smoothly as they were before the India-Pakistan clashes.
India, like other nations, is trying to figure out a way to deal with Trump and is recalibrating ties with China as a hedge, said Harsh Pant, foreign policy head at India's Observer Research Foundation think tank.
"Certainly there is an outreach to China," he said. "And I think it is mutual...China is also reaching out".
Last week, India's Jaishankar made his first visit to Beijing since a deadly 2020 border clash between Indian and Chinese troops.
India is also making moves to ease restrictions on investments from China that were imposed following the 2020 clash.
The thaw comes despite India's *****ly relations with China and Beijing's close ties and military support to Pakistan.
But New Delhi's concern about Trump's own engagement with China, which has ranged from conciliatory to confrontational, appears to have contributed to its shift in stance on Beijing.
"With an unpredictable dealmaker in the White House, New Delhi cannot rule out Sino-US rapprochement," said Christopher Clary, an associate professor of political science at the University at Albany, New York.
"India is troubled by Chinese help to Pakistan and growing Chinese influence elsewhere in India's near abroad, such as Bangladesh. Yet New Delhi has largely concluded that it should respond to creeping Chinese influence by focusing its pressures on its nearest neighbours and not on China."
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DG ISPR dispels rumours of FM Munir vying for presidency
The Pakistan Army has strongly rejected speculation on Field Marshal Chief of Army Staff (COAS) Syed Asim Munir vying to become president of Pakistan.
Speaking to The Economist, Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) DG Lieutenant General Ahmed Sharif Chaudhry rubished such rumours as "completely baseless".
His statement comes a month after the interior minister issued a similar rebuttal clarifying that there was no truth to speculation about the president being asked to resign or the field marshall aspiring to assume presidency.
The Economist noted that FM Munirās popularity has surged since the May conflict with India. It further noted that the ruling coalition's recently acquired two-thirds majority in parliament further "ignited rumours that the army chief could become president too".
Last month, Interior Minister Mohsin Naqvi had also rebuffed speculations on social media suggesting the ouster of President Asif Ali Zardari, calling them baseless.
Commenting on Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modiās reported resolve to respond to terrorist attacks with military action, DG ISPR responded, āthis time, we will start from the East of Indiaā.
āIt will begin with deep strikes inside India,ā he added. āIndia must understand that they can be struck anywhere.ā
He firmly denied any discussions or intentions concerning the presidentās resignation or a change in leadership.
We are fully aware of who is behind the malicious campaign targeting President Asif Ali Zardari, Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif, and the Chief of Army Staff. I have categorically stated that there has been no discussion,nor does any such idea exist,about the President being askedā¦
The sole focus of the COAS is the strength and stability of Pakistan, nothing else," reiterated the interior minister.
Earlier this year, President Asif Ali Zardari and Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif in May formally conferred the rank of Field Marshal on COAS General Syed Asim Munir.
The federal cabinet approved the promotion during a high-level meeting chaired by the Prime Minister, where ministers hailed the operational success of Operation Bunyanum Mursoos. The operation was described as a historic military victory that repelled Indian aggression and ensured the countryās sovereignty. Field Marshal Munir also praised the political leadership for their āstrategic foresightā during Operation Marka-i-Haq.
FM Munir is the nation's second army officer to be promoted to field marshal since 1947, since independence. Former army chief and military dictator Gen Ayub Khan was conferred the rank in 1959.
Shortly afterwards, in Washington, US President Donald Trump said he was āhonouredā to meet FM Munir during a rare White House meeting, crediting him with playing a key role in halting the conflict between Pakistan and India.
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The Pakistan Army has strongly rejected speculation on Field Marshal Chief of Army Staff (COAS) Syed Asim Munir vying to become president of Pakistan.
Speaking to The Economist, Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) DG Lieutenant General Ahmed Sharif Chaudhry rubished such rumours as "completely baseless".
His statement comes a month after the interior minister issued a similar rebuttal clarifying that there was no truth to speculation about the president being asked to resign or the field marshall aspiring to assume presidency.
The Economist noted that FM Munirās popularity has surged since the May conflict with India. It further noted that the ruling coalition's recently acquired two-thirds majority in parliament further "ignited rumours that the army chief could become president too".
Last month, Interior Minister Mohsin Naqvi had also rebuffed speculations on social media suggesting the ouster of President Asif Ali Zardari, calling them baseless.
Commenting on Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modiās reported resolve to respond to terrorist attacks with military action, DG ISPR responded, āthis time, we will start from the East of Indiaā.
āIt will begin with deep strikes inside India,ā he added. āIndia must understand that they can be struck anywhere.ā
He firmly denied any discussions or intentions concerning the presidentās resignation or a change in leadership.
We are fully aware of who is behind the malicious campaign targeting President Asif Ali Zardari, Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif, and the Chief of Army Staff. I have categorically stated that there has been no discussion,nor does any such idea exist,about the President being askedā¦
The sole focus of the COAS is the strength and stability of Pakistan, nothing else," reiterated the interior minister.
Earlier this year, President Asif Ali Zardari and Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif in May formally conferred the rank of Field Marshal on COAS General Syed Asim Munir.
The federal cabinet approved the promotion during a high-level meeting chaired by the Prime Minister, where ministers hailed the operational success of Operation Bunyanum Mursoos. The operation was described as a historic military victory that repelled Indian aggression and ensured the countryās sovereignty. Field Marshal Munir also praised the political leadership for their āstrategic foresightā during Operation Marka-i-Haq.
FM Munir is the nation's second army officer to be promoted to field marshal since 1947, since independence. Former army chief and military dictator Gen Ayub Khan was conferred the rank in 1959.
Shortly afterwards, in Washington, US President Donald Trump said he was āhonouredā to meet FM Munir during a rare White House meeting, crediting him with playing a key role in halting the conflict between Pakistan and India.
Source: Tribune.com.pk
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The dude is again visiting USA soon, if this was any Indian top leaders making so many visits the British Pakistanis would had called Indian western slaves etc but over here it will be called master stroke, stroking the ego etc.
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Don't worry about Pakistanis, worry about how you will be forced to toe the line. Your hero DT is completely screwing you over. Fake economy that is built on 0 civic sense will come crashing now.
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COAS Munir back in US to meet senior political and military leadership
Chief of Army Staff (COAS) Field Marshal Asim Munir is undertaking an official visit to the United States and has engaged in high-level interactions with senior political and military leadership, as well as members of the Pakistani diaspora, the militaryās media wing said on Sunday.
The visit comes shortly after he went to the US in June on a five-day official visit, where he met with US President Donald Trump over luncheon, becoming the first serving army chief to have a face-to-face meeting with a sitting US president.
During the trip in June, Field Marshal Munir stressed the āimmense potential for a broader, multidimensional relationship built upon mutual respectā with Washington.
Todayās press release by the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) said: āIn Tampa, COAS attended the Retirement Ceremony of outgoing Commander United States Central Command (Centcom), General Michael E. Kurilla, and the Change of Command Ceremony marking the assumption of command by Admiral Brad Cooper.
āCOAS lauded General Kurillaās exemplary leadership and his invaluable contributions to strengthening bilateral military cooperation, and extended his best wishes to Admiral Cooper, expressing confidence in continued collaboration to address shared security challenges.
In June, Gen Kurilla hailed Pakistan as a āphenomenal partnerā in the arena of counter-terrorism, citing their struggle against terrorism in Balochistan and against terrorist groups like the Islamic State.
The field marshal also met with Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff General Dan Caine, where matters of mutual professional interest were discussed and Munir extended an invitation to General Caine to visit Pakistan.
The army chief also interacted with the chiefs of defence from friendly nations on the sidelines of the meeting, ISPR said.
āDuring an interactive session with the Pakistani diaspora, COAS urged them to remain confident in Pakistanās bright future and to actively contribute to attracting investments.
āThe diaspora reaffirmed their commitment to supporting Pakistanās progress and development.ā
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Chief of Army Staff (COAS) Field Marshal Asim Munir is undertaking an official visit to the United States and has engaged in high-level interactions with senior political and military leadership, as well as members of the Pakistani diaspora, the militaryās media wing said on Sunday.
The visit comes shortly after he went to the US in June on a five-day official visit, where he met with US President Donald Trump over luncheon, becoming the first serving army chief to have a face-to-face meeting with a sitting US president.
During the trip in June, Field Marshal Munir stressed the āimmense potential for a broader, multidimensional relationship built upon mutual respectā with Washington.
Todayās press release by the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) said: āIn Tampa, COAS attended the Retirement Ceremony of outgoing Commander United States Central Command (Centcom), General Michael E. Kurilla, and the Change of Command Ceremony marking the assumption of command by Admiral Brad Cooper.
āCOAS lauded General Kurillaās exemplary leadership and his invaluable contributions to strengthening bilateral military cooperation, and extended his best wishes to Admiral Cooper, expressing confidence in continued collaboration to address shared security challenges.
In June, Gen Kurilla hailed Pakistan as a āphenomenal partnerā in the arena of counter-terrorism, citing their struggle against terrorism in Balochistan and against terrorist groups like the Islamic State.
The field marshal also met with Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff General Dan Caine, where matters of mutual professional interest were discussed and Munir extended an invitation to General Caine to visit Pakistan.
The army chief also interacted with the chiefs of defence from friendly nations on the sidelines of the meeting, ISPR said.
āDuring an interactive session with the Pakistani diaspora, COAS urged them to remain confident in Pakistanās bright future and to actively contribute to attracting investments.
āThe diaspora reaffirmed their commitment to supporting Pakistanās progress and development.ā
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This video has been doing rounds on internet with no single video of Asim Munir mentioning these statements as claimed by The Print. Ironic... any proof to verify??
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There are PTI handles espousing the same. Curious what @Bewal Express @aboveandbeyond @Boyka @psyoptica @KingKhanWC have to say.
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I am staunchly against the actions of Generals of Pakistan Army when it comes to Democracy.
However, they are timid kittens to the Media and extremely careful in and around America. I believe all of this to be fake news, there is no way that a Pakistani General would speak in this manner while in the US.
Asim Munir has come to America with a mission to prolong his rule so I highly doubt that he will be involved in such petty loose talk as he knows that all of his words and actions will be monitored by the FBI and reported.
However, they are timid kittens to the Media and extremely careful in and around America. I believe all of this to be fake news, there is no way that a Pakistani General would speak in this manner while in the US.
Asim Munir has come to America with a mission to prolong his rule so I highly doubt that he will be involved in such petty loose talk as he knows that all of his words and actions will be monitored by the FBI and reported.
This being reported in media on the authority of Indian Media which is a fake news factory.
I do not believe that a Pakistani General would speak like this while inside America in private.
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Even if he did say it, it's ok. You cannot have a state sponsor of terrorism and regional nuisance like India threaten to cut off the water to over 200 million innocent people. Temu Netanyahu and Landa Bazaar version of Israel should know that their actions will have consequences.
It's funny to see the Indian victim mentality in full flow after threatening Pakistan. They want to have the ability to throw punches but don't want anyone to be able to punch them back. We will need to build a dam to store their salty tears.
It's funny to see the Indian victim mentality in full flow after threatening Pakistan. They want to have the ability to throw punches but don't want anyone to be able to punch them back. We will need to build a dam to store their salty tears.
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Thatās ok you can destroy half the world, probably thatās the same line that worked in bringing ceasefire , nobel for Trump.
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You can not destroy one pind. The very moment India breaches the international border, the senior army officers in Pakistan will book the very first flight to whichever countries they have bought plots of lands in. Theyāre not fooling anyone with this.
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They have made your media cry for over 24 hours based on this unverified quote and your Ministry has issued a defeated statement begging for the world support.
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Unless a verified recording of Asim Munir appears, I do not believe that a Pakistan General would say these things on American soil.
This is in complete contradiction to their 70 year old record of appeasement towards America, even while completely drunk Pakistani Generals don't speak like this.
If a verified recording of Asim Munir appears then he is beyond a narcissist and unhinged and has some sort of mental illness.
This is in complete contradiction to their 70 year old record of appeasement towards America, even while completely drunk Pakistani Generals don't speak like this.
If a verified recording of Asim Munir appears then he is beyond a narcissist and unhinged and has some sort of mental illness.
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For what purpose does India have nuclear weapons?
Pakistan was forced to acquire this technology to counter the Indian threat, there was no ambition to become a nuclear state, once the Indians crossed the threshold it became necessary for survival. Is it only Pakistan's nukes that can destroy the world, whereas India's nukes will spread peace and prosperity?
This Pandora's box was opened by India, don't blame us.
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So he has a mental illness for wanting to protect his people and nation from collective punishment by the Indians? Brother, they have tried weaponise water. Of course there will be a response.
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Thatās diplomacy.
India maintains the image of a responsible nation. No first use policy and no N threats are part of the doctrine.
But the same doctrine also calls upon us to give a disproportionate response.
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Indians are genocidal maniacs and have been for over 70+ years and are basically "brown skinned" Zionists.
The rank and file of Pakistani military not the Generals will fight till death to protect Pakistan but I do not believe that even in a Drunken state a Pakistani General will utter these words on American soil, these Generals are selfish and only interested in prolonging their rule and growing their financial bottom line but basically they are timid kittens.
I also know that these Generals are neither well read, nor eloquent (in their analogies) or even smart.
On the Domestic front and in Pakistan they will give bombastic statements but in front of International Media and in America their statements are pacifist, calibrated and timid.
In any case, it is just my opinion based on years of exposure and we can agree to disagree.
The rank and file of Pakistani military not the Generals will fight till death to protect Pakistan but I do not believe that even in a Drunken state a Pakistani General will utter these words on American soil, these Generals are selfish and only interested in prolonging their rule and growing their financial bottom line but basically they are timid kittens.
I also know that these Generals are neither well read, nor eloquent (in their analogies) or even smart.
On the Domestic front and in Pakistan they will give bombastic statements but in front of International Media and in America their statements are pacifist, calibrated and timid.
In any case, it is just my opinion based on years of exposure and we can agree to disagree.
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So the failed Marshall threatened mukesh ambani.definitely displayed the failed rogue terrorist state head mentality
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The difference now is that America has transformed under Trump. The old America where they were brutal behind the scenes but diplomatic in front of it is gone. This alleged statement is the type of statements they like now.
In m opinion if there is no peace deal with Trump Putin as per their upcoming meeting then the US will target India further and give greenlight to Pakistan to try to weaken the Indians more.
And this time when Indians ask for ceasefire their request will fall on deaf ears.
Anyway this is just a theory, let's see how things pan.
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I know about IND media. I am talking about PTI handles which are espousing these views. Ask Chat GPT to give context if it is hard dear brother.
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Dear Brother @RizwanT20Champ,
The news is reported by The Print (India) and then by "Times of India" and it is widely covered by many all over the world. Whether PTI handles are reporting it not it would not have made any difference.
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I don't care about their media, dear brother. What I care about is why PTI handles are as usual toeing the opposite line.
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Dear Brother,
Understood, respect your honesty but disagree. Just understand that you have the right to have a negative opinion about a political party otherwise have the right to have a positive opinion.
If you believe that your opinion is correct then an entire thread is open for you to convince others.
I am not a PTI supporter or member so I am open to all evidence so I will wait for your evidence to support your personal opinion.
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PTI and India have always been on the same page both Anti-Pakistan and both friends with Afghanistan
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Supporting free and fair elections isnāt anti-Pakistan, itās pro-Pakistan. Wanting democracy and equal rights is about strengthening the country, not weakening it.
The irony is, India talks about democracy all the time, while Hafiz and our own military leadership have rarely championed it. Thatās something we need to be honest about if we really care about Pakistanās future.
Son can you tell us what happened to NS in the conflict? Did the Dog DNA stop him from talking? Your beghairati so on show. Explain why the Inds were allowed to murder PKs on PK soil.
Beghairat look at the date. What happened to Munir and Bajwa when these killing were happening?
Indian government ordered killings in Pakistan, intelligence officials claim
Allegations of up to 20 assassinations since 2020 follow Canadaās accusation of Delhi role in murders of dissidentswww.theguardian.com
Definetly rattled sameway your indian friends are
This is a first a coas on American soil saying we will destroy india and start from it's east
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Because Our Cheen bhai has nuclear weapon, mic pehle udhar karo, the destroyed the regionās peace.
Nuclear weapons bring stale mates to warfare, which is not a bad thing, would had helped Iran and Ukraine.
Pandoraās box was opened probably by Einstein after that itās every country trying to make sure it doesnāt get attacked.
Everyone can sign no first use policy..
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Maybe he could have shown some balls when they attacked and killed PKs. It took the Airforce to show the courage this loser couldn't after the PKs demanded we attack back.
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Dear Brother,
This is the video of General Ziauyl-Haq visiting Ronald Reagan at the White house in 1982 and both affirming their commitment to Afghanistan
- Was General Ziaul Haq Anti-Pakistan?
- What is the basis of the Afghanistan policy being Anti-Pakistan?
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Dear Brother
- Was Zia-ul-Haq president any time after 2001?
- Did you sleep through the years between 1988 and 2017, missing entirely the U.S.-led war on terror in Afghanistan and Pakistanās role in it?
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Greatest Army Chief in Pakistan history. A lionheart who has restored Pakistanās image, dignity and pride. The world knows Pakistan is not to be messed with. He is a true patriot and a daring man who doesnāt mince his words.
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Barking dogs seldom bite..
Dams are already built
IWT is suspended
Inspite of Pak begging..India ain't talking
Literally no one in the world cares about Kashmir
Time for action was Op Bunyan..suspended by order of Noble Peace Prize nominee in 4 hours...LMAO
Summoned like a dog to WH for photo ops and snubbed
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Dear Brother,
I appreciate you taking the time to respond.
Please let me know if I have understood you accurately.
- Before 9/11: Supporting Afghanistan and Afghans was patriotic
- After 9/11: Supporting Afghanistan and Afghans is Anti-Pakistan
- What was Pakistan's connection to 9/11?
- What is the benefit to Pakistan due to changing policy on Afghanistan after 9/11? Give me some tangible benefits as opposed to losing 70,000 or 80,000 Pakistanis due to war on Terror?
- August 2025: American has left Afghanistan and there are no sanctions and in fact US has provided 3 Billion USD to Afghanistan for development as per congress report which you can read here.
- August 2025: If it is not an "Anti-American" to support Afghanistan, why is it still 'Anti-Pakistan"?
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Dear Dr Mamoon,
Yes, extremely articulate and I am sure that it will go down in history as the most memorable quotes.
āI am going to use a crude analogy to explain the situation," Munir said. āIndia is shining Mercedes coming on a highway like Ferrari, but we are a dump truck full of gravel. If the truck hits the car, who is going to be the loser?"
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So Trump is against India and forced a ceasefire on his crypto buddy Pakistan to save India and then Pakistan thanked him publicly and nominated him for nobel peace prize for doing the following
IWT still on abeyance
Dams built
No mediation on Kashmir
No talks
Designating trf as terrorist group
Forcing Pak to stop their op in 4 hours while they were winning
Makes whole lot of sense..but then again Madrassa education for the win
Tbh Iām a fan of Asim Munir and how heās dealing with India. No issues with him saying such things, these Indians are warmongers. Put them in their place and call their bluff
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Brother, I think youāve completely lost the plot again with this ChatGPT talk of yours
If you look at the historical context, relations between Afghanistan and Pakistan were relatively stable and not overly hostile for much of the time before 2001. While there were occasional tensions over border issues and political differences, the real deterioration in ties came after 2001, when the US-led invasion of Afghanistan and the subsequent āWar on Terrorā brought new dynamics, security challenges, and mutual accusations that significantly soured the relationship.
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Dear Brother,
Let's discuss the topic, please respond.
- What was Pakistan's connection to 9/11?
- What is the benefit to Pakistan due to changing policy on Afghanistan after 9/11? Give me some tangible benefits as opposed to losing 70,000 or 80,000 Pakistanis due to war on Terror?
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Dear Brother,
I am Sorry, it got posted and I cannot edit, please accept my apology.
Here is my point in simple words.
- 9/11 happened in America
- America initiated "War on Terror" and invaded Afghanistan
- America has moved away from "War on Terror"
- Pakistan flipped its Afghan policy due to 9/11 and America
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If youāre not aware that Pakistan allowed the US to use its airspace and territory to attack Afghanistan, then thereās really no point in us continuing this discussion. I donāt have time to go over basic stuff that everyone knows.
Go do your own research or ask your buddy chatgpt while you at also research on soviet war and pakistans role then under zia ul haq
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While your researching also research on durand line and other conflicts
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According to Asim Munir, Pakistan is a dump trunk. So whats does live inside a dumb trunk? Pakistanis... have to agree with this one.
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Dear Brother,
- 1893: Durand line established, I will skip the rest...
- 1982: General Ziaul Haq affirms support for Afghanistan in White House
- 1994: Taliban created with the approval, help and consent from Pakistan Army
- 2001: 9/11 happens and America Starts war on Terror and Pakistan flips its Afghan Policy and picks up 70,000,80,000 Janazahs
- 2021: America withdraws from Afghanistan
- 2024: America acknowledges providing 3 Billion USD to Afghanistan after leaving
- 2025: Pakistan thinks having brotherly relationship with a Muslim country (Afghanistan) is Anti-Pakistan
If Durand line was the issue from 1893 then why did Pakistan support Afghanistan from 1979-2001? Where is the mistake?
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He has accused your greatest PM ever of stealing 2 trillion, along with his crooked niece. Do you agree with him. If you dont then why has the beghairat made the allegation, and if you, why did he appoint them and not have them locked up. Let's hera you grow a pair and explain the looting allegations made by him.
You forgot No stop on buying Russian oil, No trade deal with India, Public humiliation of F16 being shot down by S400 to antagonize Mr. TACO bell
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That speech of his should be played on tv, my assumption is it was an analogy he was trying to make which went haywire.
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No cellphones or recording devices were allowed. It was supposed to be a closed door open discussion.
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Pakistani people have a sense of humor.
Indians were trying to get over Aurangzeb (Alamgir), why did Pakistan had to introduce another Aurangzeb?
@ElRaja @IronShield @emranabbas Next Bollywood movie would be about who promoted "Aurangzeb" and made him spokesperson to rub salt into the Indian wounds!
You Pakistani people have done it on purpose...
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Foreign Office slams Indiaās MEA for ātwistingā COAS Asim Munirās remarks
The Foreign Office (FO) on Monday castigated Indiaās Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) for ādistortingā and ātwistingā remarks made by Chief of Army Staff (COAS) Field Marshal Asim Munir during his recent visit to the United States.
Field Marshal Munir on Sunday completed his second high-profile trip to the US in less than two months. Like his previous visit, he engaged with both political and military leadership in the host country. In Tampa, Florida, the army chief attended the US Central Commandās (Centcom) change of command ceremony.
His most closely watched appearance came later at a black-tie dinner hosted by Adnan Asad, Pakistanās honorary consul in Tampa. The event was attended by about 150 guests, including Interior Minister Mohsin Naqvi, Ambassador Rizwan Shaikh, embassy officials, and prominent members of the diaspora.
Comments Field Marshal Munir reportedly made at the event were later picked up and, according to the FO, distorted by Indian media outlets. Responding to Indian media reports, the MEA had said earlier today: āOur attention has been drawn to remarks reportedly made by the Pakistani COAS while on a visit to the US. Nuclear sabre-rattling is Pakistanās stock-in-trade.
āThe international community can draw its own conclusions on the irresponsibility inherent in such remarks, which also reinforce the well-held doubts about the integrity of nuclear command and control in a state where the military is hand-in-glove with terrorist groups.ā
The MEA had also said that it was āregrettableā that the alleged remarks were āmade from the soil of a friendly third countryā.
In a terse response to the Indian MEAās statement, the FO said: āPakistan strongly rejects the immature remarks made by the Indian MEA earlier today, which is yet another demonstration of their chronic tendency to distorting facts and twisting statements out of context.
āThe Indian narrative of an alleged ānuclear blackmailā is a misleading and self-serving construct. Pakistan remains firmly opposed to the use or threat of use of force. Indiaās sabre-rattling and warmongering whenever confronted, invite unfounded allegations bereft of rationality.ā
The FO said Pakistan was a responsible nuclear-weapon state with an āelaborate command and control structure under full civilian controlā that had always exercised ādiscipline and restraintā while dealing with issues of such importance.
āPakistanās sustained and credible counterterrorism efforts are internationally acknowledged. Our security forces remain the bulwark against terrorism. The Indian MEAās spurious insinuations are irresponsible and without a shred of evidence.
āWe also note with concern a pointless reference to the third countries, in a bid to exert pressure on Pakistan. This not only reflects Indiaās lack of diplomatic confidence but also constitutes a futile attempt to unnecessarily involve other countries.ā
The FO said that ācontrary to Indiaās belligerent and jingoistic approachā, Pakistan would continue to act as a responsible member of the global community.
āHowever, any act of Indian aggression or violation of Pakistanās sovereignty and territorial integrity will be met with an immediate and matching response. The onus of any ensuing escalation will rest squarely with the Indian leadership,ā it warned.
The two countries had entered a brief but intense military escalation after India, without evidence, blamed Pakistan for the April 22 Pahalgam attack. On May 6ā7, New Delhi launched air strikes that killed civilians, and the PAF downed six Indian jets in its response. After ***-for-tat strikes on each otherās airbases, it took American intervention on May 10 for both sides to finally reach a ceasefire.
Since Indiaās short but deadly conflict with Pakistan in May, New Delhi has been unhappy about Trumpās closeness with Islamabad and has protested, casting a shadow over trade talks. Despite former public displays of bonhomie between Trump and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, India has taken a slightly harder stance against the US in recent weeks.
Trump has repeatedly taken credit for the India-Pakistan ceasefire he announced on social media on May 10, but India disputes his claim that it resulted from his intervention and trade threats. Trump also hosted the army chief at the White House in the weeks following the conflict.
By declaring the Indian economy dead in the water, Trump has put Modi and his party in a bind. Until recently, the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party was canvassing support for the US presidentās election. Its supporters were holding special prayers and muttering mystical chants for Trumpās victory. There was at least one temple created where a sculptured image of Trump was worshipped.
But Trump has ignored the lavish praise and called out Indiaās energy imports from Russia and its tariff regime as non-negotiable.
The Indian government said it was trying to figure out a response by consulting all the āstakeholdersā, a euphemism for angry businesses whose hopes were riding on Modiās daring ability to play both sides of the street.
That appears to have hit a dead end as Trump last week imposed an additional 25 per cent tariff on Indian goods, citing New Delhiās continued imports of Russian oil in a move that sharply escalated tensions between the two nations after trade talks reached a deadlock. The new import tax, set to come into place in three weeks, will raise duties on some Indian exports to as high as 50pc ā among the highest levied on any US trading partner.
DAWN NEWS
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Been a pretty much embarrassing year so for india that too on a world stage
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This time it seems like Indians government fell for their own fake news.
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Fair enough but the narrative could be destroyed with video by Munir and his team of the meeting.
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COAS Asim Munir rejects change rumours
Field Marshal Asim Munir, Chief of Army Staff, has dismissed all rumours of a leadership change, calling them entirely false and contrary to the interests of both the government and the military establishment.
Speaking to senior journalist Sohail Waraich in Brussels, the army chief said, "God made me this country's guardian", adding that he has no desire for any other position.
He emphasised that political reconciliation is only possible through genuine apologies from all parties involved.
In July, rumours began to circulate that President Asif Ali Zardari may be asked to step down and that the COAS would take over the top office. However, top government officials ā Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and Interior Minister Mohsin Naqvi ā rejected such claims.
āField Marshal Asim Munir has never expressed any desire to become the president, nor is there any such plan in the offing,ā PM Shehbaz had said, while Naqvi called it a āmalicious campaignā targeting President Zardari, the premier, and the army chief.
During his interaction with the senior journalist, Field Marshal Munir also highlighted Pakistanās long-standing experience in maintaining balanced relations with China and the United States. He said: āWe will not sacrifice one friend for the sake of another.ā
United States-Pakistan relations have started improving since US President Donald Trump took office. He recently hosted COAS Munir for lunch at the White House, a move that unsettled India and signalled a significant diplomatic shift.
On international diplomacy, the army chief noted that US President Trumpās desire for peace is genuine, which is why Pakistan was the first to support his nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize. He added that other countries are now following Pakistanās lead in supporting the nomination.
Regarding regional security, Field Marshal Munir warned that India should not attempt to destabilise Pakistan through proxies.
The army chief praised Prime Minister Shehbaz for his dedication, including working 18-hour days during the war, and lauded the government and cabinet for demonstrating remarkable resolve during challenging times.
India has escalated its proxy war against Pakistan following its defeat in "Marka-e-Haq" ā the days-long military conflict between the two nuclear neighbours ā and is using Fitna-al-Khawarij and Fitna-al-Hindustan to advance its nefarious designs.
He also called on the Afghan government to halt policies that push the Taliban into Pakistan, and reaffirmed that the blood of every Pakistani is a responsibility the state must uphold.
During the Brussels event, overseas Pakistanis welcomed Field Marshal Munir as a war victor. He spent several hours meeting Pakistanis who had travelled from far and wide, despite advice that such a large gathering could cause logistical issues. The army chief insisted that the visitorsā dedication and enthusiasm could not be ignored.
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Field Marshal Asim Munir, Chief of Army Staff, has dismissed all rumours of a leadership change, calling them entirely false and contrary to the interests of both the government and the military establishment.
Speaking to senior journalist Sohail Waraich in Brussels, the army chief said, "God made me this country's guardian", adding that he has no desire for any other position.
He emphasised that political reconciliation is only possible through genuine apologies from all parties involved.
In July, rumours began to circulate that President Asif Ali Zardari may be asked to step down and that the COAS would take over the top office. However, top government officials ā Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and Interior Minister Mohsin Naqvi ā rejected such claims.
āField Marshal Asim Munir has never expressed any desire to become the president, nor is there any such plan in the offing,ā PM Shehbaz had said, while Naqvi called it a āmalicious campaignā targeting President Zardari, the premier, and the army chief.
During his interaction with the senior journalist, Field Marshal Munir also highlighted Pakistanās long-standing experience in maintaining balanced relations with China and the United States. He said: āWe will not sacrifice one friend for the sake of another.ā
United States-Pakistan relations have started improving since US President Donald Trump took office. He recently hosted COAS Munir for lunch at the White House, a move that unsettled India and signalled a significant diplomatic shift.
On international diplomacy, the army chief noted that US President Trumpās desire for peace is genuine, which is why Pakistan was the first to support his nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize. He added that other countries are now following Pakistanās lead in supporting the nomination.
Regarding regional security, Field Marshal Munir warned that India should not attempt to destabilise Pakistan through proxies.
The army chief praised Prime Minister Shehbaz for his dedication, including working 18-hour days during the war, and lauded the government and cabinet for demonstrating remarkable resolve during challenging times.
India has escalated its proxy war against Pakistan following its defeat in "Marka-e-Haq" ā the days-long military conflict between the two nuclear neighbours ā and is using Fitna-al-Khawarij and Fitna-al-Hindustan to advance its nefarious designs.
He also called on the Afghan government to halt policies that push the Taliban into Pakistan, and reaffirmed that the blood of every Pakistani is a responsibility the state must uphold.
During the Brussels event, overseas Pakistanis welcomed Field Marshal Munir as a war victor. He spent several hours meeting Pakistanis who had travelled from far and wide, despite advice that such a large gathering could cause logistical issues. The army chief insisted that the visitorsā dedication and enthusiasm could not be ignored.
COAS Asim Munir rejects change rumours
Field Marshal Asim Munir, Chief of Army Staff, has dismissed all rumours of a leadership change, calling them entirely false and contrary to the interests of both the government and the military...
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