Hashim Amla | The Mega Discussion Thread

[Strike Rate]

He is a coward because he shies away from the new ball but that does not mean that he isn't a fantastic batsman. 3rd best ODI batsman in the world IMO.

So going by your definition of cowardness at least amla is not coward? he open in odi and t20 and come at number 3 in tests.

 

[Mamoon]

I did, read the whole post atleast.

The point still stands though, Amla IS capable of upping the ante but he usually doesn't have to and thus he doesn't.

Give me one example of an opener who constantly finished games off except for Sachin.

Sehwag has done it for India many times.

Its not about finishing off games either. Its about shifting gears when the team needs you to.

Amla becomes a liability for South Africa and a bonus for the opposition after the 35th over because at that stage, he still bats like he does on ball one.

He is very one dimensional.

 

[Mamoon]

So going by your definition of cowardness at least amla is not coward? he open in odi and t20 and come at number 3 in tests.

No he quite a gutsy player. Choking and bottling is a different issue, it means he can't play under pressure but he does have the guts to put himself in the firing line.

 

[eradicator]

Mighty Hash once played an over against Ajmal for 2 runs when the team required only 12 in 12 balls. No need to mention who won that match.

Wasted what could have been one of the Greatest Knocks ever in Odis. But Mighty Hash scored more than 50 runs and at an Okish rate , so no worries.

 

[Haz95]

Mighty Hash once played an over against Ajmal for 2 runs when the team required only 12 in 12 balls. No need to mention who won that match.

Wasted what could have been one of the Greatest Knocks ever in Odis. But Mighty Hash scored more than 50 runs and at an Okish rate , so no worries.

Mighty Sach lost a game to BD just to score his 100th 100. What's your point?

 

[Strike Rate]

No he quite a gutsy player. Choking and bottling is a different issue, it means he can't play under pressure but he does have the guts to put himself in the firing line.

boy oh boy now when he he dont fulfill your definition of cowardness you diverted it to chocking and bottling man sometime debates with you get funnier and more funnier

 

[Jo_Don]

boy oh boy now when he he dont fulfill your definition of cowardness you diverted it to chocking and bottling man sometime debates with you get funnier and more funnier

Don't know why you guys bother, all he does is redirect when he's backed into a corner.

 

[Mamoon]

Morkel averages 23 in ODIs but he hasn't consistently blown away opposition.

His average is slightly lower than Waqar Younis but who will you have in your team? Obviously Waqar because he would destroy batting line ups.

You can average 60 in Tests if you score 60 every innings. Amazing average but doesn't make you a quality Test batsman.

Quality Test batsmen gets big hundreds and double hundreds.

Morkel and Junaid both have misleading averages because their highs aren't great.

An average is what it is - an average. It doesn't indicate the peak which is important in evaluating players.

 

[Haz95]

Morkel averages 23 in ODIs but he hasn't consistently blown away opposition.

His average is slightly lower than Waqar Younis but who will you have in your team? Obviously Waqar because he would destroy batting line ups.

You can average 60 in Tests if you score 60 every innings. Amazing average but doesn't make you a quality Test batsman.

Quality Test batsmen gets big hundreds and double hundreds.

Morkel and Junaid both have misleading averages because their highs aren't great.

An average is what it is - an average. It doesn't indicate the peak which is important in evaluating players.

No an average shows consistency. People like Sanga have misleading averages cos they minnow bash. I'd rather have Junaid who regularly takes 2-3 wicket than someone like Wahab who may take a 4-5fer every 10 games.

 

[Mamoon]

boy oh boy now when he he dont fulfill your definition of cowardness you diverted it to chocking and bottling man sometime debates with you get funnier and more funnier

Don't know why you guys bother, all he does is redirect when he's backed into a corner.

In cricketing terms,

Cowardliness = shying away, chickening out from a difficult situation.

Choking/bottling = Taking responsibility, showing guts and taking your team to a winning position but show inability to take your team across the line because you don't do well under pressure.

de Villiers is both a coward and a choker.

Amla is only a choker.

Get yourself a new dictionary.

 

[Mamoon]

No an average shows consistency. People like Sanga have misleading averages cos they minnow bash. I'd rather have Junaid who regularly takes 2-3 wicket than someone like Wahab who may take a 4-5fer every 10 games.

A bowler who takes 2/3 wickets regularly, thus making small contributions does not deserve an average of 22/23 because that is reserved for quality fast bowling which blows teams away.

Both Morkel and Junaid are just decent.

 

[Bilal7]

Don't know why you guys bother, all he does is redirect when he's backed into a corner.

Comedy relief, really.

Mighty Sach lost a game to BD just to score his 100th 100. What's your point?

) Atleast Amla played slowly in that match because of Pakistan's brilliant bowling.

Sehwag has done it for India many times.

Its not about finishing off games either. Its about shifting gears when the team needs you to.

Amla becomes a liability for South Africa and a bonus for the opposition after the 35th over because at that stage, he still bats like he does on ball one.

He is very one dimensional.

Many times? How many times? Also, how many games have you seen where Amla has every been a liability in ODIs?

 

[Strike Rate]

Don't know why you guys bother, all he does is redirect when he's backed into a corner.

To expose further the good thing is you cant edit your posts after 1 hour so these posts can haunt you later when someone quote them

 

[Haz95]

In cricketing terms,

Cowardliness = shying away, chickening out from a difficult situation.

Choking/bottling = Taking responsibility, showing guts and taking your team to a winning position but show inability to take your team across the line because you don't do well under pressure.

de Villiers is both a coward and a choker.

Amla is only a choker.

Get yourself a new dictionary.

If someone looked in a dictionary. I'm pretty sure Choker would mean someone who chokes on something like a drink. de Villiers is not a coward nor a choker. People like Duminy are chokers.

 

[Pantani]

It's because he signed for Surrey

 

[Bilal7]

A bowler who takes 2/3 wickets regularly, thus making small contributions does not deserve an average of 22/23 because that is reserved for quality fast bowling which blows teams away.

Both Morkel and Junaid are just decent.

3 wickets in every ODI is superb especially in bowling attacks like South Africa and Pakistan. Start bringing some objectivity in your arguments.

 

[Haz95]

A bowler who takes 2/3 wickets regularly, thus making small contributions does not deserve an average of 22/23 because that is reserved for quality fast bowling which blows teams away.

Both Morkel and Junaid are just decent.

pathetic thing to say. Junaid usually takes very important partnership breaking wickets.

 

[eradicator]

) Atleast Amla played slowly in that match because of Pakistan's brilliant bowling.

No, thats due to his lack of ability. Amla is just incapable of upping the ante when required. His inferiority in comparison to likes of Dhoni, Kohli and ABDV was well and truly exposed in that match. If AB had departed earlier without playing a cameo , Mighty HASH would have still continued playing at his usual S/R with South Africa losing by more than 50 runs.

It was AB's brilliance that brought SA so close to Pakistan's target in that match but so useless is Hash in tight situations that he couldnt even finish such an easy job, forget about leading from the front.

 

[Adil_94]

Re: Hashim Amla - A sinking Ship?

So in your opinion, ATG's don't go through peaks and troughs? Nice.

They do but Amla was rubbish in his first 20 Tests had a great peak and now has been poor in the last year he's a SA great but not an ATG

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[Adil_94]

Re: Hashim Amla - A sinking Ship?

My problem with his strike rate is that he bats in a similar manner irrespective of the situation. He can't switch gears.

For example, 2nd ODI vs Pakistan. He was playing a classical Amla knock but that wasn't the order of the day and ultimately lost SA the match.

Amla, Kohli, Dhoni and de Villiers all have similar ODI strike rates but out of the 4 batsmen, there is 1 odd one out who you know is not going to turn the tide in a matter of few overs and play a destructive innings and its obvious that guy is Amla.

Since he is one paced, he is always banking on someone like de Villiers to kill the game off.

I'd go back to the 2nd ODI vs Pakistan. South Africa were going no where before de Villiers played a blinder and turned the game around in a couple of overs.

Amla can't do that which makes his strike rate misleading. He is one paced with no extravagant highs.

He provides a great foil though but since he doesn't take matters in his own hands and grab the game by the scruff of its neck, he definitely falls short in comparison to the 3 best ODI batsmen today in Kohli, de Villiers and Dhoni.

Actually a good post Mamoon :Afridi

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[Strike Rate]

They do but Amla was rubbish in his first 20 Tests had a great peak and now has been poor in the last year he's a SA great but not an ATG

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Ponting wasn't special too in in first 4/5 years of his career.

 

[Adil_94]

Re: Hashim Amla - A sinking Ship?

A bowler who takes 2/3 wickets regularly, thus making small contributions does not deserve an average of 22/23 because that is reserved for quality fast bowling which blows teams away.

Both Morkel and Junaid are just decent.

So Junaid doesn't deserve a 22 ODI avg but Sir Jimmy deserves to have same avg as Steyn in Tests

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[Bilal7]

They do but Amla was rubbish in his first 20 Tests had a great peak and now has been poor in the last year he's a SA great but not an ATG

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And what is to say that he doesn't go through another peak again?

 

[King Cobra]

One would think this is a South African forum considering the number of Amla defenders here. I have seen quite a few Cricket forums but none that have such a likening for a Neutral Player.

 

[Adil_94]

Re: Hashim Amla - A sinking Ship?

And what is to say that he doesn't go through another peak again?

He's 31 now it's much harder to go through a peak like he did from your mid to late 30s unless he has some Misbah style rejuvenation

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[IndianWillow]

An opener having a strike rate of 90+ is a big asset to any team regardless of whether he can change gears or not. An opener is not going to last beyond the 25 over mark on average, and so at Amla's s/r and averages he has carried out his role much more often than not. This switching of gears is important for the middle order and lower order ODI bats, who will take a lot of strike after 35 overs. Amla is being terribly underrated here. He may be a bottler, but he will usually fulfill his role in the team.

 

[Strike Rate]

An opener having a strike rate of 90+ is a big asset to any team regardless of whether he can change gears or not. An opener is not going to last beyond the 25 over mark on average, and so at Amla's s/r and averages he has carried out his role much more often than not. This switching of gears is important for the middle order and lower order ODI bats, who will take a lot of strike after 35 overs. Amla is being terribly underrated here. He may be a bottler, but he will usually fulfill his role in the team.

THIS!

some people need to remove their biased glasses.

 

[James]

We don't. He has a Bradmanesque average against us and has Indian heritage. So if anything, we are proud of him. We just get riled when the phrase ATG is thrown around among batsmen.

Amla reminds me of Yousuf - wasn't believed to be anything beyond a good batsman when he started out. Had some phenomenal years where he batted like anyone could ever have. And returned to (his) normalcy since, leaving some of the hypemeisters confused.

Is the right answer.

 

[Glory Of '09]

Amla lovers crying. These guys are so funny they are blind to the fact that he is finished. Will choke in the WC and hopefully be discarded.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

An opener having a strike rate of 90+ is a big asset to any team regardless of whether he can change gears or not. An opener is not going to last beyond the 25 over mark on average, and so at Amla's s/r and averages he has carried out his role much more often than not. This switching of gears is important for the middle order and lower order ODI bats, who will take a lot of strike after 35 overs. Amla is being terribly underrated here. He may be a bottler, but he will usually fulfill his role in the team.

Perfectly put.

But overall Amla won't be rated as one of the best until he performs well in do or die games, tournaments, etc.

A top ODI batsman though.

 

[Mamoon]

An opener having a strike rate of 90+ is a big asset to any team regardless of whether he can change gears or not. An opener is not going to last beyond the 25 over mark on average, and so at Amla's s/r and averages he has carried out his role much more often than not. This switching of gears is important for the middle order and lower order ODI bats, who will take a lot of strike after 35 overs. Amla is being terribly underrated here. He may be a bottler, but he will usually fulfill his role in the team.

I disagree. Your role is defined by the shape and direction the match takes.

Amla likes to play long innings and more often than not, when he plays well, he is still around the 35-40th over. At this point, he becomes a liability to the team because he cannot play outside his comfort zone.

In the modern era, all of your batsmen should be able to switch gears and slog when required irrespective of which position they bat in.

Versatility is very important.

This is where Amla loses his battle to Kohli, de Villiers and Dhoni because they can accumulate as well as turn the tide in 2/3 overs.

 

[Pantani]

I disagree. Your role is defined by the shape and direction the match takes.

Amla likes to play long innings and more often than not, when he plays well, he is still around the 35-40th over. At this point, he becomes a liability to the team because he cannot play outside his comfort zone.

In the modern era, all of your batsmen should be able to switch gears and slog when required irrespective of which position they bat in.

Versatility is very important.

This is where Amla loses his battle to Kohli, de Villiers and Dhoni because they can accumulate as well as turn the tide in 2/3 overs.

Fair enough, but coming behind Kohli, de Villiers, and Dhoni still has him right up there in the top bracket of this generation's ODI batsmen.

 

[Bilal7]

I disagree. Your role is defined by the shape and direction the match takes.

Amla likes to play long innings and more often than not, when he plays well, he is still around the 35-40th over. At this point, he becomes a liability to the team because he cannot play outside his comfort zone.

In the modern era, all of your batsmen should be able to switch gears and slog when required irrespective of which position they bat in.

Versatility is very important.

This is where Amla loses his battle to Kohli, de Villiers and Dhoni because they can accumulate as well as turn the tide in 2/3 overs.

All of Amla's centuries have resulted in his team winning and that is the only way an opener can last beyond the 35th or even the 30th over, so once again, an inaccurate post. When all of his centuries have resulted in wins then he's a liability that I hope Pakistan incurs pretty soon.

 

[Buffet]

coming behind Kohli, de Villiers, and Dhoni still has him right up there in the top bracket of this generation's ODI batsmen.

No shame in being behind the like of Dhoni, AB etc. Dhoni will walk into an ATG ODI side. AB is not done yet but he is freak. Kohli is very young and still has so many great knocks.

He is behind those 3 but easily in the top bracket of ODI bats of this generation. Amla is not really some slightly above average player. He is a top class ODI bat and plays his role very well. His consistent performance helps SA to win many games. Rarely, he needs to win games by changing gears as an opener. Specially true due to playing for SA , which has a strong bowling.

 

[Mamoon]

All of Amla's centuries have resulted in his team winning and that is the only way an opener can last beyond the 35th or even the 30th over, so once again, an inaccurate post. When all of his centuries have resulted in wins then he's a liability that I hope Pakistan incurs pretty soon.

This runs in wins/losses is a nonsense statistic and I don't buy it.

Let me give you an example, a player scores a hundred at a strike rate of 60 chasing 300.

This of course builds up pressure on his team and is an awful innings but his teammates play blinders and achieve the target.

Later, people would say that XYZ scored X amount of runs in wins so he is a match winner.

I am not saying Amla scores at 60 but he is reliant one others to do the job and win the game which is why he is not a match winner.

 

[Bilal7]

This runs in wins/losses is a nonsense statistic and I don't buy it.

Let me give you an example, a player scores a hundred at a strike rate of 60 chasing 300.

This of course builds up pressure on his team and is an awful innings but his teammates play blinders and achieve the target.

Later, people would say that XYZ scored X amount of runs in wins so he is a match winner.

I am not saying Amla scores at 60 but he is reliant one others to do the job and win the game which is why he is not a match winner.

Once or twice, it can happen and the liability can get lucky but 10 times? No way. Just accept it, Amla is definitely not a liability. A run a ball century is a great base for the finishers and is a match-winning one.

 

[Mamoon]

Once or twice, it can happen and the liability can get lucky but 10 times? No way. Just accept it, Amla is definitely not a liability. A run a ball century is a great base for the finishers and is a match-winning one.

Amla and Kallis are liabilities for South Africa in the last 20 overs of an ODI.

 

[Pantani]

Amla and Kallis are liabilities for South Africa in the last 20 overs of an ODI.

But another way of looking at it, is that those two have set up a solid platform for the middle order strokemakers and sloggers to build on. If they got out cheaply and exposed somebody like David Miller or Farhaan Behardien before the 20th over, then South Africa might not get to 200. If they bat at a steady pace and get to say, 3/160 after 30 overs, then there's a great chance of getting to 300 for the team.

Strictly speaking, if they are batting in the last 10 (20 is surely too much) overs, then they might cost South Africa 10-20 runs. But if they aren't in the team at all, then South Africa will lose 80 runs at least.

 

[Bilal7]

Amla and Kallis are liabilities for South Africa in the last 20 overs of an ODI.

A baseless opinion with no proof whatsoever, atleast with regards to Amla.

 

[IndianWillow]

I disagree. Your role is defined by the shape and direction the match takes.

Amla likes to play long innings and more often than not, when he plays well, he is still around the 35-40th over. At this point, he becomes a liability to the team because he cannot play outside his comfort zone.

In the modern era, all of your batsmen should be able to switch gears and slog when required irrespective of which position they bat in.

Versatility is very important.

This is where Amla loses his battle to Kohli, de Villiers and Dhoni because they can accumulate as well as turn the tide in 2/3 overs.

I don't think anybody claims Amla is equal to any of the middle order batsmen you named, where versatility is crucial. A batsman averaging around 53, at a strike rate of 90 will face an average of 58 balls per ODI innings, so he will be around the 19th over on an average. The number of games in which he is still there around the 40th over mark must be a very small fraction of the games he plays, probably only 15% of his games. If Amla gets out at the 40th over mark after making a 100 of 115 balls, he would have taken his team to the very verge of a win except when chasing 350 or so, from where other players can take it past the goal post easily.

 

[soso_killer]

Now assuming all the tripe was true, why would an Indian fan give a damn especialy when his team just lost 12 tests on the trott and could be 20 by the end of December?

Shouldn't he be creating a thread along the lines "The tail starts with Dhoni"?
Stones and glass houses...

 

[soso_killer]

His last post on PP (dhoni injured thread) before a hour:



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lol i remember some bold assertions before India toured the country. Got clobbered in both formats and subsequently went into hiding. What can you ever do with trolls.

 

[sachjinn]

Amla has had only two phases in his career so far, when he was averaging in the 20's in his first 20 matches and then his current one where he averages in the 60 so. So how you can assume that when Amla still has 6-8 years left is a mystery.

The beard?

Kidding. They just seem similar. Very classy at times, but nothing earth-shattering about them when they appeared on the scene. Can you think of one ATG who became an ATG over the course of his career? They usually just look right within the first couple of years, if not the first few matches.

Current examples of players who will be rated greats in the future:
Pujara, Kohli,

 

[Bilal7]

The beard?

Kidding. They just seem similar. Very classy at times, but nothing earth-shattering about them when they appeared on the scene. Can you think of one ATG who became an ATG over the course of his career? They usually just look right within the first couple of years, if not the first few matches.

Current examples of players who will be rated greats in the future:
Pujara, Kohli,

Imran Khan, Wasim Akram and Glenn Mcgrath were all pretty ordinary during the first parts of their career. Greats like Inzi, Yousuf and Younis averaged in the low forties for much of the early part of their careers.

Not saying that Amla will become an ATG but I'm not saying he won't either. No one knows that the future holds, Johnson should remind everyone of that.

 

[sachjinn]

Imran Khan, Wasim Akram and Glenn Mcgrath were all pretty ordinary during the first parts of their career. Greats like Inzi, Yousuf and Younis averaged in the low forties for much of the early part of their careers.

Not saying that Amla will become an ATG but I'm not saying he won't either. No one knows that the future holds, Johnson should remind everyone of that.

Johnson was earmarked by a lot of people early on. I know, I've copped my fair share of ridicule from my friends during his ***** era.

In any case, Lillee did call him a once in a generation bowler around or before his debut.

Of the 3 batsmen you mentioned, Inzy had a an impact early on during the WC. There was something different about him for all to see.

Sorry, don't think Younis or Yousuf are greats - Pak greats definitely, with Younis being more useful to his team than even Inzy.

 

[Bilal7]

Johnson was earmarked by a lot of people early on. I know, I've copped my fair share of ridicule from my friends during his ***** era.

In any case, Lillee did call him a once in a generation bowler around or before his debut.

Of the 3 batsmen you mentioned, Inzy had a an impact early on during the WC. There was something different about him for all to see.

Sorry, don't think Younis or Yousuf are greats - Pak greats definitely, with Younis being more useful to his team than even Inzy.

Your opinion on Yousuf and Younis is different from mine but the point was that, a lot of ATG's have had poor beginnings.

Lets have this discussion again in a couple of years and see where Amla stands.

 

[Strike Rate]

Your opinion on Yousuf and Younis is different from mine but the point was that, a lot of ATG's have had poor beginnings.

Lets have this discussion again in a couple of years and see where Amla stands.

Ponting is the prime example of average start and he continued that 30 average for almost 4/5 years.

 

[choclate]

Should be averaging 40 in Tests.

.

But he is not- so wish can't translate to a conclusion- That's now how it works

 

[sachjinn]

Your opinion on Yousuf and Younis is different from mine but the point was that, a lot of ATG's have had poor beginnings.

Lets have this discussion again in a couple of years and see where Amla stands.

Sure, why not.

Ponting is the prime example of average start and he continued that 30 average for almost 4/5 years.

Ponting was wowing everyone who saw him as teenager. Rod Marsh was singing paeans about the guy years before his debut.

I've recently been tempted to believe Joe Root is a potential future great based on his debut in India. He's a slow batter, isn't particularly flashy in Test cricket, but there was just something about the way he batted that made it seem possible. Am a bit unsure now after his smarmy smiling-for-no-reason behaviour during the Ashes. But that's possibly down to some growth hormones or something.

 

[Bilal7]

Sure, why not.



Ponting was wowing everyone who saw him as teenager. Rod Marsh was singing paeans about the guy years before his debut.

I've recently been tempted to believe Joe Root is a potential future great based on his debut in India. He's a slow batter, isn't particularly flashy in Test cricket, but there was just something about the way he batted that made it seem possible. Am a bit unsure now after his smarmy smiling-for-no-reason behaviour during the Ashes. But that's possibly down to some growth hormones or something.

The thing is, Amla was rated very highly as a youngster as well. He was killing it on the domestic circuit but just couldn't score runs at the international scene. He always had the talent.

 

[Strike Rate]

Sure, why not.



Ponting was wowing everyone who saw him as teenager. Rod Marsh was singing paeans about the guy years before his debut.

I've recently been tempted to believe Joe Root is a potential future great based on his debut in India. He's a slow batter, isn't particularly flashy in Test cricket, but there was just something about the way he batted that made it seem possible. Am a bit unsure now after his smarmy smiling-for-no-reason behaviour during the Ashes. But that's possibly down to some growth hormones or something.

Everyone was praising and rating Umar Akmal when he debuted but see even after 4 years he is no way near his true potential so the conclusion is your cant back someone based on talent alone you need performance and stats to back it up

 

[hashmist]

Maybe its time for him to get some tips from NJ this time :nj

 

[zubair007]

Why is there a rush to classify Amla as an ATG OR as "just a very good batsman" when his career is only half way done? He has many years to go before he hangs up his boots, so why worry about a year of superhuman performance or a year of suboptimal batting?
Let him define his own career and not judge him now. Time will tell if he is an ATG or "just a very good batsman". Also, with his over 50 average, if you can classify Dravid and Ponting as ATGs, then he'll be every bit an ATG as them as he has proven to be a versatile batsman all around the world, playing all sorts of bowling in all conditions, and proven himself to be worthy of that title.

 

[sam_ahm]

The bottom line is that Hashim has set such high standards over the last 4 - 5 years that even a slight bad run gets noticed by people.

Hashim is 30, I expect him to play on till 36. He'll probably retire after 2019 WC.

98, 41, 65, 100, 13 - Are his last 5 innings in ODI's (Many players won't mind such a bad run)

Scored a century against Pakistan at Abu Dhabi not so long ago, so effectively we are talking about 5 bad test matches and 5th one still ain't over.

But yes, such high standards he has set that it is not normal for us to see him go 3-4 tests without a hundred.

 

[Saj]

Hashim Amla 7 Test innings without a score of 50+. That's his longest run without a half century in Tests since May 06-Dec 06 (9 innings)

 

[the Great Khan]

so another troll thread. These Indian posters never stop do they? especially the unofficial spokesman for the BCCI!!

 

[Haroon786]

If you knew anything about the knocks Pujara has played, you wouldn't say that.

Miles better than Kohli.

Good innings against a good attack, but the pitches were largely unresponsive.

 

[James]

Particularly for an SA player I've always thought Amla isn't the best against the short ball.

Quality batsman like I've said, but just never struck me as ATG material.

 

[soso_killer]

Particularly for an SA player I've always thought Amla isn't the best against the short ball.

Quality batsman like I've said, but just never struck me as ATG material.

lol pity he hammered your jokers for 300 then

 

[James]

lol pity he hammered your jokers for 300 then

Such an insecure and plainly invalid riposte to the point raised, just the usual ad hominem drivel you see on Internet forums every day when the person has no humble or logical response to make.

 

[Glory Of '09]

Amla fans need to get in touch with reality which is he is finished now. His best period is over and most teams know now he doesn't like a fullish length due to his lack of footwork.

 

[Safar55]

Still rate him higher than kholi...

Amla is just going through a rough patch

 

[badhmash_kaka]

other than Pakistanis for obvious reason and saffers nobody rate him that highly anyways

 

[Mamoon]

I agree with the assessment that Amla fan club is a confused bunch right now.

Interesting parallel to Yousuf, started off as a very good player but in his purple patch played like Bradman which over excited his fans and they hyped him up as if he was comparable to Tendulkar, Ponting etc as an ATG. Now since the purple patch is over, he is back to what he really is - nothing more than a very good batsman and a great for his country like Yousuf is for Pakistan.

However, in a discussion involving ATG batsmen or even great batsmen, both him and Yousuf won't make the cut.

 

[Haz95]

I agree with the assessment that Amla fan club is a confused bunch right now.

Interesting parallel to Yousuf, started off as a very good player but in his purple patch played like Bradman which over excited his fans and they hyped him up as if he was comparable to Tendulkar, Ponting etc as an ATG. Now since the purple patch is over, he is back to what he really is - nothing more than a very good batsman and a great for his country like Yousuf is for Pakistan.

However, in a discussion involving ATG batsmen or even great batsmen, both him and Yousuf won't make the cut.

Yousuf makes it into great

 

[Adil_94]

Re: Hashim Amla - A sinking Ship?

other than Pakistanis for obvious reason and saffers nobody rate him that highly anyways

I thought Indians would rate him highly considering the phainta he's given you in your own backyard

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[badhmash_kaka]

I thought Indians would rate him highly considering the phainta he's given you in your own backyard

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any tom dick n harry can give a phainta to our trundlers.. we don't rate batsman on how well he do against us in inida. even indian bowlers gave him a phainta in south Africa. perhaps u forgot the way he got out

 

[Strike Rate]

any tom dick n harry can give a phainta to our trundlers.. we don't rate batsman on how well he do against us in inida. even indian bowlers gave him a phainta in south Africa. perhaps u forgot the way he got out

like this?

 

[Adil_94]

Re: Hashim Amla - A sinking Ship?

any tom dick n harry can give a phainta to our trundlers.. we don't rate batsman on how well he do against us in inida. even indian bowlers gave him a phainta in south Africa. perhaps u forgot the way he got out

In India it's hard to give phainta to your bowlers on turning wickets against Indian spinners many non SC batsman fail if it was so easy everyone would win in India but you have one of the best home records yeah Shami owned him :YK

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[London_Lahori]

Come on Hash, score a big one today, iA

 

[Haz95]

Hashim Amla - A sinking Ship?

any tom dick n harry can give a phainta to our trundlers.. we don't rate batsman on how well he do against us in inida. even indian bowlers gave him a phainta in south Africa. perhaps u forgot the way he got out

Ashwin is a on his home ground and amla gave you lot a serious dishing...Hes been out of form for long now


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[Glory Of '09]

Soft runs so far. He will fail when they need next test in the first innings.

 

[London_Lahori]

What a backfoot punch off Johnson!

 

[HamzaSaeen]

Sinking ship much

 

[jusarrived]

This is ABs match , if SA wins ....There lies a difference between a great player and a good player

 

[Barragan]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

The guy is 47 off 50 with a SR of 94!!

 

[eradicator]

Soft runs so far. He will fail when they need next test in the first innings.

Exactly. He needs his team-mates to get a lead of around 200 runs in the first innings and only then he can score .

 

[Soprano]

Amla is pure class...his repertoire of strokes are of the absolute highest order.

 

[soso_killer]

Exactly. He needs his team-mates to get a lead of around 200 runs in the first innings and only then he can score .

yeah, like in Perth. He came in with the lead at 400 and SA 300/1 scored at over 7 to the over. I remember that match. Dont you?

 

[Haz95]

Exactly. He needs his team-mates to get a lead of around 200 runs in the first innings and only then he can score .

And Mitchell Johnson needs runs on the board to be dangerous.
Is everyone forgetting his 118 vs Pak? His entire team was struggling except for him