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Mamoon said:
Kohli has proved time and time again what a great player under pressure he is. Amla isn't a percent of the chaser he is.

However, for Kohli to become an ATG in ODIs, he needs to deliver in ICC events. Did play a very good pressure innings in the Champions Trophy final though.

When did I say he needs my approval? typical defensive and insecure response :adnan

I am merely giving my opinion.
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No one is talking about who is and who isn't an ODI ATG. You were phaintified enough in that thread and this topic has been settled. The discussion is about tests and the claims that he "can't do jack in pressure situations".

Are you not the one who's always keen to separate ODI and test performances? Talk about being consistent.
 
Mamoon said:
If you need proof Bilal, go back to the 2nd ODI vs Pakistan.

He couldn't finish of the game when de Villiers departed.

36 were required of 38 balls with 6 wickets in hand and he still bottled :)))

The three best ODI batsmen in the world, Kohli-Dhoni-de Villiers would finish off such an equation with disdain 100/100 times.
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So the proof of him not doing well under pressure in tests is his performance in one solitary ODI, in which Miller, Mclaren and Duminy were still not out when he departed after some great bowling by Ajju.

Nice.
 
Tendulkar is legend. Who doubts that.

But his two failures in World Cup finals will hold against him, irrespective of how many bucket-load runs he has scored.

When the ODI career ends of a cricketer, I give very little regard to his performances in bilaterals.

Gun ODI players rise to the occasions in the biggest games.

Tendulkar has played masterclass knocks in big World Cup matches such as vs Pakistan in 2003 where he took a bowling attack of Shoaib, Wasim and Waqar to the cleaners but even the pressure of that match doesn't equate to World Cup finals.

One of them was in response to Ponting scoring 159 not out. He couldn't handle the pressure when India needed him to respond in a similar fashion.

The other on his home ground, on 99 hundreds and was India's best batsman in the tournament. Failed again,

Gilchrist rose to the occasion 3 times in World Cup finals. Coincidence, it is not.

Just goes to show how much heart he had for the grandest stage.

If I need to pick a player for a high pressure ODI, I won't look further than Gilchrist.
 
Point to be noted, Amla averages almost 70 in the first innings.
 
The 2nd ODI also proves that his ODI strike rate is the most misleading statistic in cricket today.

Even though he has a strike rate of 90, he is useless when the team requires 50 of 30 balls, or even 30 of 30 balls :)))

He is purely an accumulator and attempts to accumulate in such situations as well.

Duminy and Miller failed too but they didn't bat for the length of the innings and faced 131 balls. Amla was seeing the ball like a football and still couldn't kick it.
 
Even in Tests he isn't a pressure player. He will only score if South Africa are in a good position or when the opposition bowlers are going through the motions.

If they have their tails up, he cannot respond.
 
Mamoon, having no proof whatsoever, always goes back to that one match and a lot of hyperbole to avoid looking foolish. Especially rich when he tells Misbah haters to stop whining over Mohali.
 
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This thread is about Amla the sinking ship, not Amla the sinking Test ship.

You cannot change the topic of the thread to suit your agenda :msd
 
IndianWillow said:
South Africa rarely get under pressure due to their bowling. The number of times Amla has had to bat under severe pressure ( compared to say, the Indian batsmen) is very few and he has not come out triumphant.
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Excellent Point there. The likes of Steyn/Morke/Philander dismiss the opposition cheaply so many times that the momentum stays with SA right from the start and batsmen only have to capitalize on all platform laid by the bowlers.

Funnily enough when in the recent series , the Indian Batsmen performed decently against SA bowling in the first 3 innings , Amla went missing against even our rubbish bowlers . Why ? Because thanks to SA bowlers having failed to make an impact , there a was lot of pressure on Amla to perform.

Just goes to show that even rubbish bowlers are hard to face by some batsmen when they are under pressure while they churn loads of runs in the 2nd innings of the match where the opposition has already been dismissed for an under 100 score.
 
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haters take a chill pill!

lets add a picture of sinking ship in this thread!

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Like James pointed out, Amla is an ordinary player of the short ball for a South African and he also wears an elbow guard for this reason which is a physiological reaction of fearing the ball hitting your elbow.

Not a coincidence that Ponting, the greatest player of short bowling in history didn't wear an elbow guard.
Kohli and de Villiers don't either because they trust their ability against short pitched bowling.
 
Mamoon said:
Tendulkar is legend. Who doubts that.

But his two failures in World Cup finals will hold against him, irrespective of how many bucket-load runs he has scored.

When the ODI career ends of a cricketer, I give very little regard to his performances in bilaterals.

Gun ODI players rise to the occasions in the biggest games.

Tendulkar has played masterclass knocks in big World Cup matches such as vs Pakistan in 2003 where he took a bowling attack of Shoaib, Wasim and Waqar to the cleaners but even the pressure of that match doesn't equate to World Cup finals.

One of them was in response to Ponting scoring 159 not out. He couldn't handle the pressure when India needed him to respond in a similar fashion.

The other on his home ground, on 99 hundreds and was India's best batsman in the tournament. Failed again,

Gilchrist rose to the occasion 3 times in World Cup finals. Coincidence, it is not.

Just goes to show how much heart he had for the grandest stage.

If I need to pick a player for a high pressure ODI, I won't look further than Gilchrist.
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How is chasing a target of under 140 against Pakistan in 99 finals equals to rising to occasion ? and regarding the 2003 wc , how is 57 runs equals to rising to occasion when Ponting and Martyn scored tons ?

We cannot compare scoring a 50 in first innings under no pressure to chasing 360 runs under immense pressure right from the word " GO ".

I doubt that Gilly would have scored even a 30 if he was in a situation of chasing 360 runs in the finals , which meant hitting the ball from the word "GO"
 
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Mamoon said:
Like James pointed out, Amla is an ordinary player of the short ball for a South African and he also wears an elbow guard for this reason which is a physiological reaction of fearing the ball hitting your elbow.

Not a coincidence that Ponting, the greatest player of short bowling in history didn't wear an elbow guard.
Kohli and de Villiers don't either because they trust their ability against short pitched bowling.
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Very good player of short-pitched bowling and the elbow guard is only there for protection. Ponting didn't wear a helmet once either and got smashed in the face by Sami.

Amla's 196 in Perth is proof enough. Mamoon pulling up stories out of thin air. :)))

Next he'll say that Amla is a poor player of the sweep shot.
 
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A brilliant innings by a brilliant player. At one stage he was scoring a run a ball in a high pressure situation. He is also easy on the eye. Great Hashim keep up the good work.
 
eradicator said:
How is chasing a target of under 140 against Pakistan in 99 finals equals to rising to occasion ? and regarding the 2003 wc , how is 57 runs equals to rising to occasion when Ponting and Martyn scored tons ?

We cannot compare scoring a 50 in first innings under no pressure to chasing 360 runs under immense pressure right from the word " GO ".

I doubt that Gilly would have scored even a 30 if he was in a situation of chasing 360 runs in the finals , which meant hitting the ball from the word "GO"
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oh sour grapes? now agree gilly is a champion player not tendu at big stage!!! you agreed to every point by mamoon when it was about amla so now take these points too my friend :P it's the baggage of mamoon arguments which goes round and round till the other person go crazy :)))
 
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Mamoon said:
Like James pointed out, Amla is an ordinary player of the short ball for a South African and he also wears an elbow guard for this reason which is a physiological reaction of fearing the ball hitting your elbow.

Not a coincidence that Ponting, the greatest player of short bowling in history didn't wear an elbow guard.
Kohli and de Villiers don't either because they trust their ability against short pitched bowling.
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Quit while you are behind. He made mince meat out of the Aussies in a high pressure situation.
 
Safar55 said:
Amla bhai did well today... Lets see if he can get that hundred tomorrow
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yes Amla bhai did it bhai will do it again!

i just started adding bhai to amla name from today when i realized how jealous some haters feel! amla bhai at best!

i will call him bhai from now just for the sake of making haters feel more pain :P even though he is younger than me :P
 
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eradicator said:
How is chasing a target of under 140 against Pakistan in 99 finals equals to rising to occasion ? and regarding the 2003 wc , how is 57 runs equals to rising to occasion when Ponting and Martyn scored tons ?

We cannot compare scoring a 50 in first innings under no pressure to chasing 360 runs under immense pressure right from the word " GO ".

I doubt that Gilly would have scored even a 30 if he was in a situation of chasing 360 runs in the finals , which meant hitting the ball from the word "GO"
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What rubbish Gilly was a big game player no denying that on the other hand Tendu always bottled it in World Cup finals even in 1996 SemiF he chocked when he had Sri Lanka down and out let alone his 4th innings test match average.
 
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Gangnam said:
What rubbish Gilly was a big game player no denying that on the other hand Tendu always bottled it in World Cup finals even in 1996 QF he chocked when he had Sri Lanka down and out let alone his 4th innings test match average.
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its hard for these haters to accept the fact that if amla is a bottler than sachin was the biggest bottler of cricket history :))
 
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Gangnam said:
What rubbish Gilly was a big game player no denying that on the other hand Tendu always bottled it in World Cup finals even in 1996 SemiF he chocked when he had Sri Lanka down and out let alone his 4th innings test match average.
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Gilly may have been , but none of his innings in either the 99 or 2003 finals were pressure knocks.

I bet even Amla Bhai can score a fifty in the finals if the target is under 150 ( Like 99 Finals ), I think even Mamoon will agree there.
 
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Strike Rate said:
its hard for these hater to accept the fact that if amla is a bottler than sachin was the biggest bottler of cricket history :))
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Tendulkar played half of his career under pressure hence more failures while Amla Bhai rarely gets into those situations and even when he does , he fails most of the times.

Atleast Tendulkar performed decently in the Quarters/ Semis if not the finals , Amla Bhai OTOH is yet to take his team past through a single Knock Out Match.
 
eradicator said:
Gilly may have been , but none of his innings in either the 99 or 2003 finals were pressure knocks.

I bet even Amla Bhai can score a fifty in the finals if the target is under 150 ( Like 99 Finals )
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nah gilly can score high pressure knock which sachin bhai and amla bhai can only dream :P after gilly i will put my money on kp hussey abd amla before even thinking about sachin :P
 
eradicator said:
Tendulkar played half of his career under pressure hence more failures while Amla Bhai rarely gets into those situations and even when he does , he fails most of the times.

Atleast Tendulkar performed decently in the Quarters/ Semis if not the finals , Amla Bhai OTOH is yet to take his team past through a single Knock Out Match.
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there are at least 10 odi players who will be in my list before even thinking about sachin if i want a player to perform under pressure. i dont want 100th 100 type players in my team :P
 
Strike Rate said:
its hard for these hater to accept the fact that if amla is a bottler than sachin was the biggest bottler of cricket history :))
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Tendu's last 100 against Bangla was the most despicably selfish innings by an athlete in any sports, like the rest of his career he didn't give a damn about the countries result just his own stats. People forget how many times Tendu choked just chasing 100 100 lol the way he bottled it while getting close was just EPIC. It showed how much stats meant to the little man.
 
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Gangnam said:
Tendu's last 100 against Bangla was the most despicably selfish innings by an athlete in any sports, like the rest of his career he didn't give a damn about the countries result just his own stats. People forget how many times Tendu choked just chasing 100 100 lol the way he bottled it while getting close was just EPIC. It showed how much stats meant to the little man.
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and than they complain about other players scoring useless not under pressure runs :)) how funny!

I will take dravid any day of the week if i had to pick between sachin and dravid. Dravid might be ugly to watch but he was far better a team player!
 
Mamoon said:
Even in Tests he isn't a pressure player. He will only score if South Africa are in a good position or when the opposition bowlers are going through the motions.

If they have their tails up, he cannot respond.
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His last test 100 was under pressure tho when he scored 118 whilst the rest of his team were failing :ajmal
mammmoooon y u do dis n mek up bullsh t:amla?
 
I see the unity of Amla haters shattering over differences against Tendulkar . Loving it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Amla is a great or not.. but the fact is any team would like add him in their team...
 
jusarrived said:
For a chang some one is honest why hes rated highly
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If you believe that's the case than you must also agree that the reason Indian's/Hindu's hate on Amla and put him down at every opportunity is because he is a practicing Muslim #smallhearts
 
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Gangnam said:
If you believe that's the case than you must also agree that the reason Indian's/Hindu's hate on Amla and put him down at every opportunity is because he is a practicing Muslim #smallhearts
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Then why don't they put down

Mohd Azharuddin (the biggest star in the early 90's)
Zaheer Khan
Mohammed Shami
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Then why don't they put down

Mohd Azharuddin (the biggest star in the early 90's)
Zaheer Khan
Mohammed Shami
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The post was to show how absurd that religion argument is it wasn't meant to be taken literally. If religion was the main criteria than the players you listed plus other players like Imran Tahir and Bangla players would also be held in the same regards on this site.
 
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I remember the south africans not rating mohamed yousuf very highly and thought he was only getting knocks on feather beds but he then did go on to average 48 against them in the last 4 matches he played with them
 
Tendulkar fans bash amla for bein a bottler hahahahaha
Tendulkar has 4 + 19 in wc finals hahahahahahahahahahaha
Tendilkar was never a pressure player
I would love to see his 100th ton being defended as s good inning hahahaha I dare a sachinnfan on this hahahaha
 
amla bahi is good player no doubt but not a great player.. even in current innings he would been out had the catch at slips been taken
 
badhmash_kaka said:
amla bahi is good player no doubt but not a great player.. even in current innings he would been out had the catch at slips been taken
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What a troll.....the only edge off his bat never carried to any slip......it kept low and bounced much before any slip position nd ran away for four

Sachin bhai 4 + 19
 
Hashim Amla - A sinking Ship?

Mamoon said:
Like James pointed out, Amla is an ordinary player of the short ball for a South African and he also wears an elbow guard for this reason which is a physiological reaction of fearing the ball hitting your elbow.



Not a coincidence that Ponting, the greatest player of short bowling in history didn't wear an elbow guard.

Kohli and de Villiers don't either because they trust their ability against short pitched bowling.
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Short ball is not Amla's strength, which is strange since he is a back foot player...

I am the least religious guy here, but I like AMLA for two reasons: he is a very good back foot player (very rarely you will see a back foot player), his wrist is like Asian, very wristy... But ABD is Better, SA are wasting him at no 5. Why they could not play Kallis as batsman only more years is also beyond me :-(

You rate Punter as a great short ball player?? Hmmm, he was average short ball player, many times he could not handle short ball from **** and wi quicks of 90s and Akthar, bond... Even in 2009/2010 Amir gave him few and he struggled...

VIV was very good at short ball and also Richi Richardson... They had no fear of fast bowling forget about elbow, they never wear helmet ;-)


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LOL, Amla isn't 1% of the batsman Tendulkar was with or without pressure.
 
yasir said:
Short ball is not Amla's strength, which is strange since he is a back foot player...

I am the least religious guy here, but I like AMLA for two reasons: he is a very good back foot player (very rarely you will see a back foot player), his wrist is like Asian, very wristy... But ABD is Better, SA are wasting him at no 5. Why they could not play Kallis as batsman only more years is also beyond me :-(

You rate Punter as a great short ball player?? Hmmm, he was average short ball player, many times he could not handle short ball from **** and wi quicks of 90s and Akthar, bond... Even in 2009/2010 Amir gave him few and he struggled...

VIV was very good at short ball and also Richi Richardson... They had no fear of fast bowling forget about elbow, they never wear helmet ;-)


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Ponting post 2009 when he was past it clearly struggled. His strength became his weakness.

Ponting at his peak murdered the short ball and he has destroyed Akhtar many times as well.
 
Here is what makes an idiot.
Amla's record over the last 8 years:
2007, 9 Mat, 17 Inn, 660 RNS, 44.0 AVG, 2 100's, 4 50's.
2008, 15 Mat, 24 Inn, 1161 RNS, 52.77 AVG, 3 100's, 6 50's.
2009, 6 Mat, 11 Inn, 384 RNS, 34.90 AVG, 1 100's, 3 50's.
2010, 11 Mat, 19 Inn, 1249 RNS, 78.06 AVG, 5 100's, 4 50's.
2011, 5 Mat, 9 Inn, 423 RNS, 47.0 AVG, 2 100's, 3 50's
2012, 10 Mat, 17 Inn, 1064 RNS, 70.93 AVG, 4 100's, 2 50's.
2013, 8 Mat, 12 Inn, 633 RNS, 57.54 AVG, 2 100's, 4 50's
2014, 2 Mat, 4 Inn, 145 RNS, 48.33 AVG, 0 100's, 1 50's.
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Now 3 things stand out for me in the above data.
1. Amla has averaged below 40 just once in 8 years. Virtualy averaging 45+ yearly on minimum.
2. Amla has been scoring runs for a while not just for 2 years "2010-2012"
3. Apparently he had a "bad" 2013 on serious decline. Well he averaged 57 with 2 centuries and 4 50's. If thats bad then the opposition should be crapping themselves when he rediscovers his form shouldn't they?

Word of advice? Never make a sponge of yourself atleast not intentionaly.
 
Mamoon said:
LOL, Amla isn't 1% of the batsman Tendulkar was with or without pressure.
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still i will pick 10 players before picking sachin for big stages. Gilly will be my first choice on odi tournaments and i will happily take dravid instead of sachin any day of any week!
 
soso_killer said:
Here is what makes an idiot.
Amla's record over the last 8 years:
2007, 9 Mat, 17 Inn, 660 RNS, 44.0 AVG, 2 100's, 4 50's.
2008, 15 Mat, 24 Inn, 1161 RNS, 52.77 AVG, 3 100's, 6 50's.
2009, 6 Mat, 11 Inn, 384 RNS, 34.90 AVG, 1 100's, 3 50's.
2010, 11 Mat, 19 Inn, 1249 RNS, 78.06 AVG, 5 100's, 4 50's.
2011, 5 Mat, 9 Inn, 423 RNS, 47.0 AVG, 2 100's, 3 50's
2012, 10 Mat, 17 Inn, 1064 RNS, 70.93 AVG, 4 100's, 2 50's.
2013, 8 Mat, 12 Inn, 633 RNS, 57.54 AVG, 2 100's, 4 50's
2014, 2 Mat, 4 Inn, 145 RNS, 48.33 AVG, 0 100's, 1 50's.
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Now 3 things stand out for me in the above data.
1. Amla has averaged below 40 just once in 8 years. Virtualy averaging 45+ yearly on minimum.
2. Amla has been scoring runs for a while not just for 2 years "2010-2012"
3. Apparently he had a "bad" 2013 on serious decline. Well he averaged 57 with 2 centuries and 4 50's. If thats bad then the opposition should be crapping themselves when he rediscovers his form shouldn't they?

Word of advice? Never make a sponge of yourself atleast not intentionaly.
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some people cant digest straight facts when its about the players they hate.
 
batsmen lose form

then they make a comeback, score a 100 and go CRAZYYYYY, jump up and down...abuse...run a 100 yards

hash gets a 100 ....calmly removes the helmet....acknowledges....goes back to business

LEGEND:)
 
bill_123 said:
batsmen lose form

then they make a comeback, score a 100 and go CRAZYYYYY, jump up and down...abuse...run a 100 yards

hash gets a 100 ....calmly removes the helmet....acknowledges....goes back to business

LEGEND:)
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but but he has no personality and charisma for these modern day kids because these kids love abusing and going crazy they dont like calm people
 
Wow, it seems some sort of a trend here to call every player who scores runs consistently, overrated. People don't spend Bradman, then who's Amla.
 
People calling Amla a sinking ship are sinking now.

one more thing that makes Amla stand out is that he often scores on bowling friendly conditions in RSA and mostly against top rated bowling attacks, many subcontinent players have averages to boast of by playing on flat dead wickets, that is why players like Hashim, Ponting, AB, Hayden stand out as compared to Sanga, Mahela, Ganguly or Younus, all these players are also fantastic but I'd rate the players who score more often in difficult conditions as better.
 
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Some people just want to have a "different opinion" because they think it makes them look cool if their opinion differs from the general consensus..

This is what led to the creation of this thread...

Amla is a legend because of his consistency, calmness and run scoring ability.

I wonder if a "sinking year" means averaging 50+, what a "on the rise" year would be??? :O
 
soso_killer said:
Here is what makes an idiot.
Amla's record over the last 8 years:
2007, 9 Mat, 17 Inn, 660 RNS, 44.0 AVG, 2 100's, 4 50's.
2008, 15 Mat, 24 Inn, 1161 RNS, 52.77 AVG, 3 100's, 6 50's.
2009, 6 Mat, 11 Inn, 384 RNS, 34.90 AVG, 1 100's, 3 50's.
2010, 11 Mat, 19 Inn, 1249 RNS, 78.06 AVG, 5 100's, 4 50's.
2011, 5 Mat, 9 Inn, 423 RNS, 47.0 AVG, 2 100's, 3 50's
2012, 10 Mat, 17 Inn, 1064 RNS, 70.93 AVG, 4 100's, 2 50's.
2013, 8 Mat, 12 Inn, 633 RNS, 57.54 AVG, 2 100's, 4 50's
2014, 2 Mat, 4 Inn, 145 RNS, 48.33 AVG, 0 100's, 1 50's.
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Now 3 things stand out for me in the above data.
1. Amla has averaged below 40 just once in 8 years. Virtualy averaging 45+ yearly on minimum.
2. Amla has been scoring runs for a while not just for 2 years "2010-2012"
3. Apparently he had a "bad" 2013 on serious decline. Well he averaged 57 with 2 centuries and 4 50's. If thats bad then the opposition should be crapping themselves when he rediscovers his form shouldn't they?

Word of advice? Never make a sponge of yourself atleast not intentionaly.
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You have missed the point again completely.

Nobody is saying that Amla is not a very good batsman.

The point is that he is not in the league of Tendulkar, Ponting, Lara etc etc which people thought he was during his golden run.

He is a level below them.

Similar to someone like Mohammad Yousuf. A great for his country, but not an All time great. Had a few very good years sandwiched between an unbelievable purple patch.

Apart from the epic 2010 and 2012, look at Amla's averages:

44, 52, 34.9, 47, 57.5 and 48.3 so far this year.

These are good numbers but not outstanding.

Amla is a 45-50 averaging Test batsman and this is the range where he will finish his career and will probably average for the remaining years.

Someone like Ponting averaged over 70 for 6 years.

if Amla can have another boom like 2010 and 2012, then he can be considered for the ATG tag but its unlikely because he isn't that good.

A very good batsman but not an amazing batsman who also didn't get to face the best bowling attack for the last 3/4 years because he plays for them.
 
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Hawkeye said:
Some people just want to have a "different opinion" because they think it makes them look cool if their opinion differs from the general consensus..

This is what led to the creation of this thread...

Amla is a legend because of his consistency, calmness and run scoring ability.

I wonder if a "sinking year" means averaging 50+, what a "on the rise" year would be??? :O
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in simple words attention seekers!
 
sam_ahm said:
People calling Amla a sinking ship are sinking now.

one more thing that makes Amla stand out is that he often scores on bowling friendly conditions in RSA and mostly against top rated bowling attacks, many subcontinent players have averages to boast of by playing on flat dead wickets, that is why players like Hashim, Ponting, AB, Hayden stand out as compared to Sanga, Mahela, Ganguly or Younus, all these players are also fantastic but I'd rate the players who score more often in difficult conditions as better.
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Younus scored a 100 vs dale and co fired up after they had taken Pak out for 47....:yk
 
Wow just saw the stats of the sinking ship on my screen. Averages 50 against everyone bar the Windies, incredible.
When you take into account that he plays most of his cricket in tough conditions of SA were some great players have had failures and averaged in the 40's at best. He also bats @3 were not many players have made a career. As stats show not more than 5 players have scored 5000 runs in that position. Take into account Tendulkar averages in the 40's when the pressure was on (around 50/3 at entrance) as well. Then you get a better picture.
Amla is overrated? Something missing? I'll tell you whats missing, rubbish!
 
South Africa is his home. So what if the batting conditions are difficult? He grew up playing there. He has adjusted.

Secondly, he didn't get to face the best bowling attack in the world either because he plays for them.

In retrospect, he has faced quality fast bowling from one country only (Australia) because England are supposed to be rubbish because the likes of Anderson and Broad are ordinary bowlers OR do they suddenly become top quality bowlers because Amla scored against them? :23:
 
Pace bowling of all other nations is rubbish while NZ have picked up pace only recently.
 
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South Africa is his home. So what if the batting conditions are difficult? He grew up playing there. He has adjusted.

Secondly, he didn't get to face the best bowling attack in the world either because he plays for them.

In retrospect, he has faced quality fast bowling from one country only (Australia) because England are supposed to be rubbish because the likes of Anderson and Broad are ordinary bowlers OR do they suddenly become top quality bowlers because Amla scored against them? :23:
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they were always top in England :nehra
 
Bats in tough conditions of SA ? LOL. FFS , its his home ground . By that logic , Ishant Sharma >>>> Steyn , because Ishant plays most of his matches on dead Indian wickets whereas Steyn bats on Garden type pitches.
 
ABDV , Dumny get tons , set the stage for SA, bowlers respond accordingly and dismiss Aussies for a low score by getting a lead of 177 , then enters Hashim Bhai with match fully in control of his team and gets an easy century with Aussie bowlers already down in motion. What an opportunist , making the most of when its easy.
 
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ABDV , Dumny get tons , set the stage for SA, bowlers respond accordingly and dismiss Aussies for a low score by getting a lead of 177 , then enters Hashim Bhai with match fully in control of his team and gets an easy century with Aussie bowlers already down in motion. What an opportunist , making the most of when its easy.
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yeah cos his last 100 when he scored 118 wasn't pressured was it? I mean it wasn't like the whole team barring amla was collapsing :amla
 
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So now they become "top" bowlers because Amla scored against them on their turf?

This is fun logic :yk

Because they are supposed to be ordinary everywhere because Steyn averages 10 runs less both home and away and even South Africa's first change bowler in Morkel trumps Anderson's average home and away and lets not bring Philtrundler into the discussion.
 
Mamoon said:
LOL, Amla isn't 1% of the batsman Tendulkar was with or without pressure.
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http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/433602.html

The Great Hashim Bhai under pressure, that is if we assume chasing 221 as a pressure situation.

Now if this was a dead rubber match of the Castle Lager SA V/S NZ Series , you can bet SA to chase this target within 35 overs with Hashim Amla 120*(111) leading from the front.
 
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Mamoon said:
So now they become "top" bowlers because Amla scored against them on their turf?

This is fun logic :yk

Because they are supposed to be ordinary everywhere because Steyn averages 10 runs less both home and away and even South Africa's first change bowler in Morkel trumps Anderson's average home and away and lets not bring Philtrundler into the discussion.
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James Anderson has always been a topclass bowler at home :asif He is an overcast condition bully lol
 
Haz95 said:
James Anderson has always been a topclass bowler at home :asif He is an overcast condition bully lol
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The South African's love to compare his bowling average home and away and put it alongside South African bowlers and show the world of difference.

But now he has become top class? :amla
 
Haz95 said:
yeah cos his last 100 when he scored 118 wasn't pressured was it? I mean it wasn't like the whole team barring amla was collapsing :amla
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no point mate

these trolls have sachin as their fav all time batsman

and we all know how PATHETIC he was in big matches

apparently amla chokes, scores soft runs, isn't charismatic blah blah blah

however sachin who was the biggest choker of all Greats is their hero

the same guy who had his country lose a match against Bangladesh so that his selfish pockets could be filled with the 100th 100 is the second coming of GOD
 
eradicator said:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/433602.html

The Great Hashim Bhai under pressure, that is if we assume chasing 221 as a pressure situation.

Now if this was a dead rubber match of the Caste Lager SA V/S NZ Series , you can bet SA to chase this target within 35 overs with Hashim Amla 120*(111) leading from the front.
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The great sachin bhai scored a yummy duck and got clean bowled coming at 44/3 against indan favorite team lanka while chasing 250 odd runs in 2007 World Cup and guess who was the bowler? the great Dilhara Fernando!!!

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/247476.html


another pressure situation in 1999 World Cup against aussies chasing 280 odd runs and our sachin bhai scored another yummy duck while jadeja and rob singh scored 100 and 75!

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/65223.html


a hint of pressure and our sachin bhai run away!!!
 
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Sure he failed in knockouts

WHO DENIED

every amla fan accepts he is not that good in ICC tournaments

NOT YET atleast


but but but

Sachin bhai 4 + 18 rocks:)
 
bill_123 said:
no point mate

these trolls have sachin as their fav all time batsman

and we all know how PATHETIC he was in big matches

apparently amla chokes, scores soft runs, isn't charismatic blah blah blah

however sachin who was the biggest choker of all Greats is their hero

the same guy who had his country lose a match against Bangladesh so that his selfish pockets could be filled with the 100th 100 is the second coming of GOD
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Tendulkar choked in 2 World Cup finals which I hold against him. I am not a Tendulkar fan by the way, IMO Ponting was a better batsman.

However, he has the most runs in World Cup history and has delivered against big teams in big matches.

Amla on the other hand can't buy a run against a decent opposition in ICC events.

King of bilaterals is all he is.
 
Strike Rate said:
The great sachin bhai scored a yummy duck and got clean bowled coming at 44/3 against indan favorite team lanka while chasing 250 odd runs in 2007 World Cup and guess who was the bowler? the great Dilhara Fernando!!!

a hint of pressure and our sachin bhai run away!!!
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hahahaha remember

FLATTTTTT WICKET

HOME CROWD

IN FULL FLOW, TOP FORM

SURE CHASING BUT HE SHOULD NOT MIND CHASING AN ABOVE AVERAGE TARGET ON A FLAT INDIAN TRACK AGAINST SRI LANKA


HOWEVERRRRRRR


18 RUNS HAPPENED;)
 
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