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Strike Rate said:
The great sachin bhai scored a yummy duck and got clean bowled coming at 44/3 against indan favorite team lanka while chasing 250 odd runs in 2007 World Cup and guess who was the bowler? the great Dilhara Fernando!!!

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/247476.html


another pressure situation in 1999 World Cup against aussies chasing 280 odd runs and our sachin bhai scored another yummy duck while jadeja and rob singh scored 100 and 75!

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/65223.html


a hint of pressure and our sachin bhai run away!!!
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Yes because the 2003 World Cup match between Pakistan and India was not a pressure match and wasn't the most anticipated fixture of the World Cup ever since the schedule was released almost 6 months ago. Also, Pakistan had piled up a joke target of 280 and had a rubbish bowling attack of Wasim, Waqar and Akhtar.
 
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eradicator said:
Bats in tough conditions of SA ? LOL. FFS , its his home ground . By that logic , Ishant Sharma >>>> Steyn , because Ishant plays most of his matches on dead Indian wickets whereas Steyn bats on Garden type pitches.
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not really, Ishant is rubbish everywhere.
Amla growing up in SA does not make batting any easier. For example SA is not a country where players score many double hundreds and cash in when in absolute form. That hampers the stats a bit. South African players average more away in general than at home, indicating they find it easy to score away so at their peaks they would average high as well.
You could perhaps say Waqar is better than Steyn due to bowling in placid wickets, but we have to look how they performed everywhere to get the full picture, but thats a seperate topic.
 
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Where was Amla in the 2011 World Cup semi final?

Where was Amla in the 2012 Champions Trophy semi final?
 
Mamoon said:
Tendulkar choked in 2 World Cup finals which I hold against him. I am not a Tendulkar fan by the way, IMO Ponting was a better batsman.

However, he has the most runs in World Cup history and has delivered against big teams in big matches.

Amla on the other hand can't buy a run against a decent opposition in ICC events.

King of bilaterals is all he is.
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is amla a failure in ICC tourneys

YES

I AGREE

but sachin has not made much impact in world cups anyway dude

he choked against lanka SEMIS 96, dint do much in quarters 96 as far as I remember

in 2003 HE WAS THE GREATEST BATSMAN ON EARTH UNTIL KNOCKOUTS

in 2011 he was alright in quarters but wasn't won by him anyway

semis HAHAHAHAHAHA HIS GREATEST KNOCK....Pakistan wanted him to score a double hundred that day
 
Mamoon said:
Yes because the 2003 World Cup match between Pakistan and India was not a pressure match and wasn't the most anticipated fixture of the World Cup ever since the schedule was released almost 6 months ago. Also, Pakistan had piled up a joke target of 280 and had a rubbish bowling attack of Wasim, Waqar and Akhtar.
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India had already qualified so let me know how was that a pressure situation mr mamoon? unless you are only looking at scorecard and dont know the history :P

and by the way how many worldcups sachin played? and how many amla played?
 
Mamoon said:
Where was Amla in the 2011 World Cup semi final?

Where was Amla in the 2012 Champions Trophy semi final?
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quarters he failed

there was NO semis for south Africa

he failed again 2012 ct

he has always failed in knockouts

WHAT IS YOUR POINT DUDE

you are such a crybaby

every amla fan accepts he has failed in knockouts till now

why are you still repeating the same in this thread

apparently you are not sachin fan but you are such a strong amla hater that you are hell bent in defending sachin as KING OF KNOCK OUTS to put down amla further

UNFORTUNATELY AMLA AND SACHIN ARE IN THE SAME BOAT IN KNOCK OUTS TILL NOW:)

but hey worst part that selfish Tendulkar is retired:)


amla atleast still has a couple more chances:) which I bet worries you even if ever so slightly;)
 
you tell mamoon sachin failed in pressure matches

amla also failed in knockouts in world cups and that you agree with this

mamoon's reply

WHAT DID AMLA EVER DO IN KNOCK OUTS?


this GUY is SLOWWWWW
 
bill_123 said:
quarters he failed

there was NO semis for south Africa

he failed again 2012 ct

he has always failed in knockouts

WHAT IS YOUR POINT DUDE

you are such a crybaby

every amla fan accepts he has failed in knockouts till now

why are you still repeating the same in this thread

apparently you are not sachin fan but you are such a strong amla hater that you are hell bent in defending sachin as KING OF KNOCK OUTS to put down amla further

UNFORTUNATELY AMLA AND SACHIN ARE IN THE SAME BOAT IN KNOCK OUTS TILL NOW:)

but hey worst part that selfish Tendulkar is retired:)


amla atleast still has a couple more chances:) which I bet worries you even if ever so slightly;)
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He is just an amla hater read his early post in this thread:

Mamoon said:
I admit Amla would be far less criticized if his fan club stopped playing the religion card.

I personally enjoy when he doesn't play well because the disappointment of the folks that refer to him as "Amla bhai" is quite entertaining. :yk
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Strike Rate said:
India had already qualified so let me know how was that a pressure situation mr mamoon? unless you are only looking at scorecard and dont know the history :P

and by the way how many worldcups sachin played? and how many amla played?
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mamoon's reply to this >>>


SO WHAT

HE HAD 1 KNOCK OUT WHICH IS ENOUGH FOR ME DECIDE HE IS THE WORST BATSMAN EVER

BUT SACHIN WHO HAD 2+3+2=7 chances IS A GREAT PRESSURE PLAYER AND IS A KING OF KNOCK OUTS;)

MANY PLAYERS DONT GET 1 WC FINAL

SACHIN HAD 2....2ND ONE AGAINST NOT THAT STRONG A TEAM ON THE FLATTEST TRACK CHASING A TARGET WHICH AINT MUCH IN INDIA

AND IF HE EVER NEEDED ANYTHING IT WAS TO SCORE IN A WC FINAL FOR HIS LEGACY

IN PEAK FORM


BUT HE FAILED HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
 
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Strike Rate said:
He is just an amla hater read his early post in this thread:
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I have known this cry baby for a while now dude hahaha

every time amla scores he goes into a hole

I don't remember him posting much about amla when he scored that 196

I WANT HIM TO BASH THAT INNING AS WELL as a soft knock

hahahaa
 
bill_123 said:
mamoon's reply to this >>>


SO WHAT

HE HAD 1 KNOCK OUT WHICH IS ENOUGH FOR ME DECIDE HE IS THE WORST BATSMAN EVER

BUT SACHIN WHO HAD 2+3+2=7 chances IS A GREAT PRESSURE PLAYER AND IS A KING OF KNOCK OUTS;)

MANY PLAYERS DONT GET 1 WC FINAL

SACHIN HAD 2....2ND ONE AGAINST NOT THAT STRONG A TEAM ON THE FLATTEST TRACK CHASING A TARGET WHICH AINT MUCH IN INDIA

AND IF HE EVER NEEDED ANYTHING IT WAS TO SCORE IN A WC FINAL FOR HIS LEGACY

IN PEAK FORM


BUT HE FAILED HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
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I will pick 10 players before even thinking about sachin if there is a pressure situation!!!
 
bill_123 said:
I have known this cry baby for a while now dude hahaha

every time amla scores he goes into a hole

I don't remember him posting much about amla when he scored that 196

I WANT HIM TO BASH THAT INNING AS WELL as a soft knock

hahahaa
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and his recent 118 against pakistan in our so called home UAE. His team was 19/2 and 43/3 but he got them to 250 runs by scoring 118 but mamoon logic will be thats not a pressure situation!
 
Strike Rate said:
but but he has 100 100s and 200 Tests and more and more stats. both sachin and stats start with a S and we all know his love fpr stats!
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AND HIS 100TH TON WAS THE GREATEST KNOCK EVER


against a STRONG Bangladeshi line up at home

sachin playing away, pressure, all bangla fans screaming for his wicket and the worlds deadliest bowlers running into him

he saw off the new ball, soaked up the pressure and delivered in STYLE at a STRIKINGLY AWESOME strike rate of 70 odd, batting first when there was immense pressure by the way

hahaha


amla who was not really in form up against the really good pak bowling line up chasing a decent target messed up, he did mess up and amla fans accepted it too, prolly the only odi inning where amla failed after getting set yet haters were all over him and he was BASHED AS THE WORST BATSMAN ever

however sachin was celebrated for that 100th ton as well hahaha
 
bill_123 said:
AND HIS 100TH TON WAS THE GREATEST KNOCK EVER


against a STRONG Bangladeshi line up at home

sachin playing away, pressure, all bangla fans screaming for his wicket and the worlds deadliest bowlers running into him

he saw off the new ball, soaked up the pressure and delivered in STYLE at a STRIKINGLY AWESOME strike rate of 70 odd, batting first when there was immense pressure by the way

hahaha


amla who was not really in form up against the really good pak bowling line up chasing a decent target messed up, he did mess up and amla fans accepted it too, prolly the only odi inning where amla failed after getting set yet haters were all over him and he was BASHED AS THE WORST BATSMAN ever


however sachin was celebrated for that 100th ton as well hahaha
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that 100th 100 was epic actually my favorite from sachin library :))

If you missed visit this thread http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=197523

and see how sir mamoon defending his favorite player!
 
So we have a coward and a sinking ship, who have both responded with super tons in this test...

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bill_123 said:
ahahahahaha thx for the entertainment dude

i also remember where he praised hafeez over anwar hahahahah

next is his thread on why hafeez is a better TEST BAT THAN AMLA hahahaha
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oh yes that thread where he played with number compared hafeez since 2010 to anwar overall career.
 
:))) :)))

Whatttta a thread! You know his detractors are now eating crow when they're attempting to bring up his past performances in a thread discussing his current/future decline!!

Epic fail.

If there was zero pressure and the conditions were easy why couldn't any of his other team mates pass 50? Why did he get near enough half the score of all the batsman at a top SR? Had Hashim got out early there would have been a real possibility of SA being bowled out for 200 and Australia chasing 380 instead, with all the momentum!
 
London_Lahori said:
:))) :)))

Whatttta a thread! You know his detractors are now eating crow when they're attempting to bring up his past performances in a thread discussing his current/future decline!!

Epic fail.

If there was zero pressure and the conditions were easy why couldn't any of his other team mates pass 50? Why did he get near enough half the score of all the batsman at a top SR? Had Hashim got out early there would have been a real possibility of SA being bowled out for 200 and Australia chasing 380 instead, with all the momentum!
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Sorry Lahori bhai but haters need no reason to hate they are just gonna hate no matter what!
 
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Mamoon said:
The South African's love to compare his bowling average home and away and put it alongside South African bowlers and show the world of difference.



But now he has become top class? :amla
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He's not a consistent performer outside of England. People like Dale are better because they can replicate their feats everywhere. Jimmy becomes ATG level in cloudy english conditions.


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Hashim Amla - A sinking Ship?

And i wouldnt pick Sachin for a crunch situation either. For me the greatest batsman ever is Lara.


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Sinking Ship - I'd like all of PAK batsmen to become Sinking ship if this is the definition of sinking ship​

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Mamoon rates ENG attack very highly, specially IN ENGLAND...

That amazing average vs AUS and ENG is just WOW!
 
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Hashim Amla - A sinking Ship?

3 matches in india, 3 hundreds and one 253* with 490 average :o :don


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eradicator said:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/433602.html

The Great Hashim Bhai under pressure, that is if we assume chasing 221 as a pressure situation.

Now if this was a dead rubber match of the Castle Lager SA V/S NZ Series , you can bet SA to chase this target within 35 overs with Hashim Amla 120*(111) leading from the front.
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Do you remember this game at all? Do you remember how he got out, or do you just search his games on crapinfo and act like you're smart?
 
My point is that Tendulkar has performed under pressure much more than Amla in spite of failing twice in World Cup finals.

Why is that so hard to decipher?

and a Pakistan India World Cup match is always a high pressure one regardless of whether its a dead rubber or not.

The build up to that game in 2003 was immense.

I am not an Amla hater, I am a hater of the "Amla bhai" community.

I enjoy seeing the disappointment on the faces of his intolerant fans when he bottles under pressure as usual.

I shall not buy any excuse when the elegant Amla fails once again in the 2015 World Cup.
 
amla bhai amla bhai!

when i realized yesterday some people burn when someone add bhai with amla i thought i will use bhai with amla from now!

keep it up amla bhai!
 
Clarke has not scored a test 50 in his last 13 innings, still he is not a sinking ship. ???

nothing wrong in people respecting Amla for his personality, some like Kohli for his aggressive nature, some like Dravid for his calmness, some like Afridi or Flintoff for their charismatic personality, some like Sachin for his humble nature, many people like Roger Federer for his humble nature as well, apart from being a legendary cricketer many girls loved Imran Khan for his good looks, same goes for Wasim Akram, and the same goes for Hashim, people like him because he is very calm, down to earth and religious, they like the way he is, what is wrong with that?
 
Mamoon said:
My point is that Tendulkar has performed under pressure much more than Amla in spite of failing twice in World Cup finals.

Why is that so hard to decipher?

and a Pakistan India World Cup match is always a high pressure one regardless of whether its a dead rubber or not.

The build up to that game in 2003 was immense.

I am not an Amla hater, I am a hater of the "Amla bhai" community.

I enjoy seeing the disappointment on the faces of his intolerant fans when he bottles under pressure as usual.

I shall not buy any excuse when the elegant Amla fails once again in the 2015 World Cup.
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Another brilliant hundred!!!!!
 
Mamoon said:
My point is that Tendulkar has performed under pressure much more than Amla in spite of failing twice in World Cup finals.

Why is that so hard to decipher?

and a Pakistan India World Cup match is always a high pressure one regardless of whether its a dead rubber or not.

The build up to that game in 2003 was immense.

I am not an Amla hater, I am a hater of the "Amla bhai" community.

I enjoy seeing the disappointment on the faces of his intolerant fans when he bottles under pressure as usual.

I shall not buy any excuse when the elegant Amla fails once again in the 2015 World Cup.
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So it clouds your judgement then? In other words your views against Amla are biased?

After this statement, how can someone take your views and opinions on Amla seriously? We can't tell if you truly feel that way about Amla or if you're saying it out of spite because someone called him 'Amla Bhai'.
 
sam_ahm said:
Clarke has not scored a test 50 in his last 13 innings, still he is not a sinking ship. ???

nothing wrong in people respecting Amla for his personality, some like Kohli for his aggressive nature, some like Dravid for his calmness, some like Afridi or Flintoff for their charismatic personality, some like Sachin for his humble nature, many people like Roger Federer for his humble nature as well, apart from being a legendary cricketer many girls loved Imran Khan for his good looks, same goes for Wasim Akram, and the same goes for Hashim, people like him because he is very calm, down to earth and religious, they like the way he is, what is wrong with that?
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Good post.
 
Probably the 4th Best Knock in the match by a South African behind Ab, Duminy and Elgars Knock.
 
sam_ahm said:
nothing wrong in people respecting Amla for his personality, some like Kohli for his aggressive nature, some like Dravid for his calmness, some like Afridi or Flintoff for their charismatic personality, some like Sachin for his humble nature, many people like Roger Federer for his humble nature as well, apart from being a legendary cricketer many girls loved Imran Khan for his good looks, same goes for Wasim Akram, and the same goes for Hashim, people like him because he is very calm, down to earth and religious, they like the way he is, what is wrong with that?
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Absolutely nothing wrong in all of the above things but it becomes wrong when anyone starts rating Dravid, SRT, Afridi or IK due to non-cricketing things. It's wrong in Amla's case as well. He does get overrated and underrated by two different sets of fans due to this whole religion thing.

Some time bias will surely kick in when player is from the country you support but but in Amla's case, it's not even that. Respect is totally different thing. When that respect starts clouding the judgement of many then you hear undue credit given to players like Dravid or Amla. And yahh, many posters are very open about it and they have admitted it openly. Now when that happens , you are always going to find opposite side of the coin even if you don't like it.

Some Pakistani fans were saying that they hope Amla makes at least 40 against Pakistan so his average doesn't take a hit. Don't you find something weird here? Have you seen any Aus saying that let's hope IK makes 40 against them because he is good looking or let's hope SRT makes 100 against them because he is humble? If some Aus fan talk that way then I am very sure that you will find many others mocking them. There is a difference between giving respect and taking it to another level.

I personally don't like it a bit when players get under rated or over rated due to religion. Just keep it to cricket when it comes to talking about how good they are in cricket. Respect? Sure, but that's a totally different thing.

Just putting a different angle here.
 
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He hates Amla because he the hates the motives of people who like him. I have heard it all.From usually a good poster this is quite funny, sad and silly.
 
Buffet said:
Absolutely nothing wrong in all of the above things but it becomes wrong when anyone starts rating Dravid, SRT, Afridi or IK due to non-cricketing things. It's wrong in Amla's case as well. He does get overrated and underrated by two different sets of fans due to this whole religion thing.

Some time bias will surely kick in when player is from own country but but in Amla's case it's not even that. Respect is totally different thing. When that respect starts clouding the judgement of many then you hear undue credit given to players like Dravid or Amla. And yahh, many posters are very open about it and they have admitted it openly. Now when that happens , you are always going to find opposite side of the coin even if you don't like it.

Some Pakistani fans were saying that they hope Amla makes at least 40 against Pakistan so his average doesn't take a hit. Don't you find something weird here? Have you seen any Aus saying that let's hope IK makes 40 against them because he is good looking or let's hope SRT makes 100 against them because he is humble? Just pointing out difference between giving respect and taking it to another level.

I personally don't like it a bit when players get under rated or over rated due to religion. Just keep it to cricket when it comes to talking about how good they are in cricket. Respect? Sure, but that's a totally different thing.

Just putting a different angle here.
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this.

I see lots of cricketers getting over rated and under rated.

Sachin (over rated by his crazy fans and under rated by his blind haters).

Rahul Dravid

VVS Laxman

Zaheer Khan (he is NOT equal to Gul in tests...his test match credentials and timely performances in matches makes him superior...plus his hand in WC 2011 was unquestionable...but in ODI's Gul was FAR better).

Amla

The list goes on.
 
The first innings really set up for south africa

They could then go at a faster pace in the second innings


Still, good innings by amla
 
Great innings by the ATG batsman... What a bhai!

As the SA commentator said "the PEACEFUL WARRIOR". ;)
 
sam_ahm said:
Clarke has not scored a test 50 in his last 13 innings, still he is not a sinking ship. ???

nothing wrong in people respecting Amla for his personality, some like Kohli for his aggressive nature, some like Dravid for his calmness, some like Afridi or Flintoff for their charismatic personality, some like Sachin for his humble nature, many people like Roger Federer for his humble nature as well, apart from being a legendary cricketer many girls loved Imran Khan for his good looks, same goes for Wasim Akram, and the same goes for Hashim, people like him because he is very calm, down to earth and religious, they like the way he is, what is wrong with that?
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I have no problems with people respecting cricketers for some personal reasons. But I hate to see these arguments being used in comparison threads. Cricketers should be compared based on cricketing skills alone.
 
Moosa said:
Another day...another choke for the so called messiah of contempory batting.

Amla avgs only 35 in the last 12 month and his career avg is down to 50.48.

With age not in his side, the chances of him coming back to form looks bleak.

Has Hasmim Amla past his best and is a sinking ship now?


:amla
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OP, where are you getting your stats from? I double checked and he is averaging 58 in the last 12 months, he is not out form at all.
 
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Mamoon said:
My point is that Tendulkar has performed under pressure much more than Amla in spite of failing twice in World Cup finals.

Why is that so hard to decipher?

and a Pakistan India World Cup match is always a high pressure one regardless of whether its a dead rubber or not.

The build up to that game in 2003 was immense.

I am not an Amla hater, I am a hater of the "Amla bhai" community.

I enjoy seeing the disappointment on the faces of his intolerant fans when he bottles under pressure as usual.

I shall not buy any excuse when the elegant Amla fails once again in the 2015 World Cup.
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Why bring up the ODI stuff, the thread is about his failure in tests, which you believed in and know you're trying to sway out of the way of deserved criticism, by making up bogus stuff, no one cares about what he did in ODI, this is a Test thread and just accept that you have been owned rather royally.
 
itsme said:
Amla is good but not as good as de viliers and kohli.
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AB yes but Kohli, seriously ??? KOhli just entered top 10 rankings recently after which talk about being world class just starts.
 
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Quite a few baffling posts on this topic the hate towards Amla is quite similar to the hate that Sachin used to or still recieve from attention seekers who knew that Sachinist will argue to no end to prove a proven point. Hashim Amla is a great batsman and has potential to end his career as a ATG there is no ifs or buts about it #indiangenes
 
Haroon786 said:
Why bring up the ODI stuff, the thread is about his failure in tests, which you believed in and know you're trying to sway out of the way of deserved criticism, by making up bogus stuff, no one cares about what he did in ODI, this is a Test thread and just accept that you have been owned rather royally.
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This thread is about Amla the sinking ship, not the sinking Test ship.

Where did he ban discussion on ODIs? If you are a bottler, you are a bottler. Hiding behind formats to suit your agenda will not work.

This series, he bottled when South Africa were reeling. As soon as they got a 177 lead, elegant classy Amla came into life.

Co-incidence? not.
 
Amla is 4th on my Test list and would barely make it into the top 10 of the ODIs list.
 
veeray said:
And what about the stats of md hafeez?
are not they misleading?
he has only bashed minnow teams plus srilanka & india on ROADS.
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He is a good player, nothing more.

I never said he is world class or something.
 
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veeray said:
And what about the stats of md hafeez?
are not they misleading?
he has only bashed minnow teams plus srilanka & india on ROADS.
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Notice how Mamoon is ignoring your posts? That means you are raising the right questions. :najam
 
leatherface58 said:
Am I? You still haven't answered what's not world class about Amla?
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Amla is a world class ODI batsman in bilaterals. in big matches or series decides, he goes missing.

Also his strike rate is misleading because even though he has a strike rate of 90, he is useless if you need 50 of 30 balls because he is an accumulator.

He always needs someone else to do the job. He is dependent, not a match winner.

As highlighted by his epic bottle job vs Pakistan in the 2nd ODI. When de Villiers played a blinder and turned the match on his head, Amla couldn't even take his team home when 36 were required of 38 balls with 6 wickets in hand.
 
Mamoon said:
He is a good player, nothing more.

I never said he is world class or something.
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good players perform almost aginst every team.and perform in big tourneys.and hafeez goes missing against quality bowling attacks.what are his stats against africa, australia, england,n land?
hafeez is not a good player he is a medicore player scores only on ROADS and against minnows.
 
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chacha kashmiri said:
The best odi player at the moment is misbah- ul haq- eeringly consistent
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Consistent but his S/R is too low to be considered the best he isn't dynamic enough to be in the league of Kohli ABD and MSD he is just below Amla as an ODI bat

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