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India (196/5) defeat Bangladesh (146/8) comfortably by 50 runs to pave their way for a probable Semi Final berth in the ICC T20 World Cup 2024

Nikhil_cric said:
At least we won't be crying for losing to Netravalkar who needed to extend his leave of absence from his corporate office :)
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LOL I enjoyed that beating USA give to Zimbabar and his friends but the way your lot cried after that final. It was worth seeing.

It will happen again soon. Hahahah
 
rhony said:
Disappointing world cup.for BD even though conditions weren't beyond them for the most part. 3 or 4 interesting players that will have good future though. Wins against SL, Ned and Nepal overall. Close game against SF but overall a poor campaign as a team
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This is not very different from Mirpur pitch except bounce is slightly more.
 
rhony said:
Disappointing world cup.for BD even though conditions weren't beyond them for the most part. 3 or 4 interesting players that will have good future though. Wins against SL, Ned and Nepal overall. Close game against SF but overall a poor campaign as a team
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This has been the best world cup so far by our strength. We deleted SL. Won against associates. Gave SA a run for their money. Even though was soundly beaten by Australia I think that was our best performance vs Australia in T20 world cups. Against India it could have been better. If we can beat Afg it would be a perfect world cup

You may say my talks are minnow mentality but I know how strong my team is
 
Never in later stages of a Tournament I have ever seen Bangladesh really going for it. Never thinking that we belong here. Always waiting to get thrashed to go back to square one.

is Bangladesh the least evolved Cricketing nation? Given the duration they have been in Cricket and playing Test Cricket?
 
sweep_shot said:
Rishad can hit big. He once hit Hasaranga for 26 or something (in one over).
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Him along with Hridoy and Tanzim are the best prospects for BD. Great talents and will be franchise favs soon too. Need rebuilding around these three. Add to them the all rounder Mehdi Hasan, Fizz and you have a good core. Jury is still out on Tanzid. He looks good but has way too risky style. It's tricky how BD will handle him
 
rhony said:
Him along with Hridoy and Tanzim are the best prospects for BD. Great talents and will be franchise favs soon too. Need rebuilding around these three. Add to them the all rounder Mehdi Hasan, Fizz and you have a good core. Jury is still out on Tanzid. He looks good but has way too risky style. It's tricky how BD will handle him
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I think BD should get rid of Mahmudullah and Shakib. They are not contributing anyway. Better to try more youngsters.
 
Dhakar Pola said:
u sure? Pafun da likes him. He does everything pafun da tells him to do
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Papon shameless corrupt sado. Needs to resign asap. Problem is in BD there isnt strong cricket culture where fans will start uproar, demand papon stepping down, burn effigy etc. people outside Dhaka dont have any power. Dhaka people are happy as long they get most of the matches. So expect mediocrity unless Papon is no longer (if you know what I mean) as he wont step down until his last breath.
 
sweep_shot said:
I think BD should get rid of Mahmudullah and Shakib. They are not contributing anyway. Better to try more youngsters.
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They are done. So is Sowmya. Litton can be a decent middle.order.maybe guiding youngsters.
 
Bangladesh vs India match summary.

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India have cruised to the semis undefeated.

But to be honest they didn't face any real Big teams yet. WI, ENG, SA and most importantly AUS.

The next game against Aus, I am sure both teams will just go through motions, hiding their plans
 
RidiculousMan said:
Never in later stages of a Tournament I have ever seen Bangladesh really going for it. Never thinking that we belong here. Always waiting to get thrashed to go back to square one.

is Bangladesh the least evolved Cricketing nation? Given the duration they have been in Cricket and playing Test Cricket?
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Yes we are. And we won't go any further also. Sports is not our thing. You may call it cultural or genetic..even look at west Bengal our cultural brothers. They so far have given India one world class player
 
Dhakar Pola said:
This has been the best world cup so far by our strength. We deleted SL. Won against associates. Gave SA a run for their money. Even though was soundly beaten by Australia I think that was our best performance vs Australia in T20 world cups. Against India it could have been better. If we can beat Afg it would be a perfect world cup

You may say my talks are minnow mentality but I know how strong my team is
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Compared to past results yes but after that game against SA, there were more expectations. Maybe it's the pitch in NY that gave a lot of close games and reduced the difference between teams.
 
Croma said:
India have cruised to the semis undefeated.

But to be honest they didn't face any real Big teams yet. WI, ENG, SA and most importantly AUS.

The next game against Aus, I am sure both teams will just go through motions, hiding their plans
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Yes. India's fun is over I guess. All minnows are done.

All are tough games now.
 
Statpadder Inc said:
Sad case of copium. Pretending I don't care after my team gets spanked all the time
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Lol believe whatever you want to believe. Zimbabar and his friends deserved the humiliation.
Like you and your countrymen will be humiliated again soon. LOL
 
Why is Mahmudullah even playing T20 cricket?

The last time he looked genuinely good was way back in 2016.

Don't BD have anyone better than this guy ?
 
Dhakar Pola said:
Yes we are. And we won't go any further also. Sports is not our thing. You may call it cultural or genetic..even look at west Bengal our cultural brothers. They so far have given India one world class player
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If i were to be honest you have done better than our Bengal but your Bangla has had more opportunities too, our Bengal has to compete with entire India.
 
Dhakar Pola said:
This has been the best world cup so far by our strength. We deleted SL. Won against associates. Gave SA a run for their money. Even though was soundly beaten by Australia I think that was our best performance vs Australia in T20 world cups. Against India it could have been better. If we can beat Afg it would be a perfect world cup

You may say my talks are minnow mentality but I know how strong my team is
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If it means anything, as a true cric fan - feel ur pain...head up - chest out bro- all the v best 💥 🪔 ✌️
 
Croma said:
India have cruised to the semis undefeated.

But to be honest they didn't face any real Big teams yet. WI, ENG, SA and most importantly AUS.

The next game against Aus, I am sure both teams will just go through motions, hiding their plans
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Their batting isn't as strong as it used to be in many previous ICC events. But bowling is solid.
 
Mas-LFC said:
Papon shameless corrupt sado. Needs to resign asap. Problem is in BD there isnt strong cricket culture where fans will start uproar, demand papon stepping down, burn effigy etc. people outside Dhaka dont have any power. Dhaka people are happy as long they get most of the matches. So expect mediocrity unless Papon is no longer (if you know what I mean) as he wont step down until his last breath.
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We have so many other problems in the country to start revolting against papon
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Why is Mahmudullah even playing T20 cricket?

The last time he looked genuinely good was way back in 2016.

Don't BD have anyone better than this guy ?
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There is zero T20 batsman in Bangladesh. They don't play short balls very well. I think they have the highest short ball dismissals in this world cup. 12 or 13. They don't have power hitters against hard length. They can hit only when the ball is in the slot or wayward. Look at how Shai Hope hit yesterday. Monsterous. Even that Gouse USA opener hits massive sixes. Scotland batsmen also hit massive sixes. Bangladesh needs batsmen who can bully pace bowlers.
 
RidiculousMan said:
Their batting isn't as strong as it used to be in many previous ICC events. But bowling is solid.
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It appears that way because there are not many 50s and 0 100s. It is a tactical.decision. batsmen will.trust the next batsmen and go all out. That's the reason they scored above par in almost every game. Earlier, India would go for par score with a couple of anchors. Not anymore. Aggressive intent and belief that the next one can score. A decent bowling attack is enabling the team to do so.
 
Should be in the semis now. In another 10 hours, OZ would have finished Afghans off confirming both theirs and our qualification.
 
JaDed said:
I have always lowkey supported BD cricket team but their fans on social media and players are my God annoying.
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Social media trolls always existed. But the younger gen. of BD players are unnecessarily aggressive towards our players like Tanzim and Rishad were today.

It's not even like our players know who these guys are, lol.

Just looking for attention/validation I guess
 
Such a boring game. Losing is one thing but losing in such manner is disheartening. BD fans need to uproar back home. Papon has to go. Need fresh start with new board leader. Mortaza is ideal candidate. But expect no change to 2050!
Dhakar Pola said:
We have so many other problems in the country to start revolting against papon
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so cricket isnt taken seriously? Now I get it why they so mediocre.
 
Pandya powers India to victory over Bangladesh in crucial Super Eights clash

India closed in on a semi-final spot with a thumping 50-run win over Bangladesh in Antigua in a pivotal Super Eights encounter at the ICC Men's T20 World Cup 2024.

After their innings, India reached 196/5, with Bangladesh making 146/8 in their response.

India thus continue their unbeaten run, having seen off Ireland, Pakistan, USA, and Afghanistan - with their match against Canada washed out.

Rishabh Pant put in a fine cameo of 36 before attempting to reverse-sweep Rishad Hossain, but only as far as the hands of Tanzim, leaving India 108/4.

And it was Rishad who clean bowled Shivam Dube, who was looking set fair to see the innings home. The batter was seeking another big shot to add to his tally of three sixes, but could not make the contact, and was on his way for 34.

It was left to Hardik Pandya to see India home, hitting a half-century off 27 balls, with Axar Patel sticking with him until the end of the innings.

Litton Das was first man out, caught by Yadav off Pandya for 13, and Tanzid Hasan followed for 29, tricked by Kuldeep Yadav's googly.

It was Kuldeep who also removed Towhid Hridoy lbw for 4, and then Shakib for 11 - just as he was starting to look threatening with a couple of big hits.

When Jasprit Bumrah made his inevitable breakthrough, tempting Najmul Hossain Shanto to the hands of Arshdeep Singh for 40 in the 16th over, Bangladesh's hopes faded further. Shanto had put in a solid knock off 32 balls, with one four and three sixes.

And then Arshdeep took a wicket of his own, his slower delivery dragged by Jaker Ali to Virat Kohli, leaving Bangladesh on 110/6 with four overs remaining.

Rishad made an effort to close the gap a little with a quickfire 24 off just ten balls before sending a Bumrah ball directly into the hands of Sharma at extra cover in the penultimate over.

And Arshdeep wrapped up the innings by removing the tenacious Mahmudullah, who had made his way to the crease in the 14th over and made 13 runs off 15 balls.

Source: ICC
 
rhony said:
It appears that way because there are not many 50s and 0 100s. It is a tactical.decision. batsmen will.trust the next batsmen and go all out. That's the reason they scored above par in almost every game. Earlier, India would go for par score with a couple of anchors. Not anymore. Aggressive intent and belief that the next one can score. A decent bowling attack is enabling the team to do so.
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It won't work most of the times vs big teams. We saw how the batting collapsed vs Pakistan.
 
Mas-LFC said:
so cricket isnt taken seriously? Now I get it why they so mediocre.
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I am not saying cricket isn't taken seriously, I am meaning when you have so many other problems of life to deal with you won't think about revolting for cricket.

You know the current political situation in BD. Anyway let's refrain from airing dirty laundry of our internal matter in a sports forum
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Social media trolls always existed. But the younger gen. of BD players are unnecessarily aggressive towards our players like Tanzim and Rishad were today.

It's not even like our players know who these guys are, lol.

Just looking for attention/validation I guess
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Yeah the social media posts are just showing that aggression and lost by 50 runs lmao
 
RidiculousMan said:
It won't work most of the times vs big teams. We saw how the batting collapsed vs Pakistan.
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That's an illusion. I think Indian score of 119 was the highest out of 8 games played in NY. It was above par on that pitch. This strategy is the only one that works against big teams. You need to score above par against good teams like Eng, Aus and SA. India beat all.these big teams in a lot of games in the last decade and it was because they scored above par. Whenever they scored par they lost. That's 2022 WC SF against Eng or 2023 WC final.against Aus
 
Indian match's pre and post cricket show is something I like a lot.LOL.
I thought she wasn't gonna come to carribbean but I m glad she did. Hahah
 
RidiculousMan said:
Never in later stages of a Tournament I have ever seen Bangladesh really going for it. Never thinking that we belong here. Always waiting to get thrashed to go back to square one.

is Bangladesh the least evolved Cricketing nation? Given the duration they have been in Cricket and playing Test Cricket?
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That’s the point they never belonged there in first place. No wonder they look lost and when they saw bumrah (they saw a ghost)… ok time to shut down the chase.
 
mominsaigol said:
Yup, I wouldn't be suprised if Australia loses to India next game and beat them in the final to complete the 3 saga trilogy of Test, Odi and T20 humiliations 😂😂.
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After flopping in the entire tournament, Maxi will play a blinder. I've already seen it in my visions 🤣🤣. But again, let's not get ahead of ourselves here. India could be facing Eng in the semis and we saw what happened last time. It's revenge time
 
mominsaigol said:
Yup, I wouldn't be suprised if Australia loses to India next game and beat them in the final to complete the 3 saga trilogy of Test, Odi and T20 humiliations 😂😂.
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In T20 we don't expect. But India should have thrashed them in the ODI final. Gave a tacky pitch and shot themselves. India is a superior ODI side.
 
sweep_shot said:
Yes. India's fun is over I guess. All minnows are done.

All are tough games now.
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I hv come across multiple posts of yours on various threads stating that BD are not minnows any more. Now, all of a sudden they become minnows just becz Ind beat them.
 
How are the pitches in Bangladesh?
i think they need some placid wickets at a couple of grounds to get the batsmen in attacking mode and which will give them the ability to play longer innings to iron out their craft. Slow and low bounce pitches wont yield too many attacking batsmen.
 
cogent said:
How are the pitches in Bangladesh?
i think they need some placid wickets at a couple of grounds to get the batsmen in attacking mode and which will give them the ability to play longer innings to iron out their craft. Slow and low bounce pitches wont yield too many attacking batsmen.
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Minus those pitches Bangladesh will be bashed at home as well. They got used to producing these paddy fields against all saids. I have no issues doing that in Tests. Home advantage is crucial. But in limited overs they cannot have pitches like this expect to do well across the world.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
In T20 we don't expect. But India should have thrashed them in the ODI final. Gave a tacky pitch and shot themselves. India is a superior ODI side.
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Well, that finals Ahmedabad pitch was same one used or India Pakistan game. In that game, India won toss and chased. It was still slower in teh first innings when Pakistan batted. Under lights, dew comes in and makes it much easier to bat.

Same thing in Chennai match against Australia , India won toss and opted to chase, it was slower in the first innings when Australia batted and in second inningsdew came in once again. India was in spot of bother early on but they pulled through just like Australia did in the finals. The chennai game was just the final in reverse.

India lucked out in the league matches by winning the toss and lost the toss in the finals. Only difference really
 
JaDed said:
I have always lowkey supported BD cricket team but their fans on social media and players are my God annoying.
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They are toy tigers, with fans restricted to social media rants, cricketers limited to on-field silly celebrations without any improvement, and their commentators having zero cricket IQ.
Just wait a few more days, Afghans will dispatch them to oblivion :LOL:
 
Cover Drive Six said:
They are toy tigers, with fans restricted to social media rants, cricketers limited to on-field silly celebrations without any improvement, and their commentators having zero cricket IQ.
Just wait a few more days, Afghans will dispatch them to oblivion :LOL:
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As a fan of Afghan team, I have no problem if they defeat us. Afghanistan is among my top 4 favorite teams.

Afghanistan have never beaten BD in World Cups before. Record is 4-0 as of now.

Game is in St. Vincent. So, it should be a low-scoring thriller.
 
JaDed said:
I have always lowkey supported BD cricket team but their fans on social media and players are my God annoying.
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I used to be the same till few years back then sweep shot (and n number of BD Troll pages in FB) happened.
 
Kuldeep Yadav (India player) post-match Press Conference - 22nd June 2024

[Reporter:]

This Super 8 specialist gig you've got seems to be going pretty well. What's it been like to come in and have such a huge impact at a crucial part of the tournament?

[Kuldeep Yadav:]

It's very important to play every game, take every game as a normal game. Now obviously we playing at Super 8, obviously we have a lot of pressure as well. We're going to play Australia in a couple of days' time. The wickets are good for spinners, as you have seen in the last few games as well. Nothing changes. We got four overs, I especially got four overs to bowl and that was my plan. Just sticking with the length and varying my pace. Yeah, for me it's nice.

[Reporter:]

Can you talk about what you did do well out there, what has been working? Because it looked like you were almost changing your release points as well. And how much have you taken the wind into consideration? Is it helping you with drift or what have you done to make the most of these conditions, particularly when if you get it wrong and can get it into the wind.

[Kuldeep Yadav:]

Obviously, I was bowling from this end, the wind was like crossing this way. It was difficult from this end - as a spinner because my rhythm is like, not like running rhythm, It's more like a one step and then aggressive. So, but yeah, I mean, I didn't thought about the wind, just the length matter. And obviously reading the batter what they are expecting from me, just reading one step ahead, what they are thinking. So just keeping keep in mind and this changing the line and length, and obviously they were targeting the wind side and just reacting what they are doing.

[Reporter:]

The experience of bowling in Kotla, which is a small stadium like Chinnaswamy, where the spinners always come under the pump. So how much that has helped or has it actually helped you?

[Kuldeep Yadav:]

IPL is totally different, boss. I'll let you know - that it's totally different. What you experience in IPL is what you are experiencing in T20 World Cup. And obviously when most of the guys played in Kotla, Kotla is the smallest ground in India. So obviously wicket helps there for spinners. And yes, sometimes you get the bigger boundary. It's very nice to have in your favour. But at the same time, for any spinners around the globe, the length matters a lot. And especially in this format, you have to read what the batter are trying to do, but more aggressive, the approach should be like very - very aggressive. So that is actually helping me during IPL and it's actually helping me in T20 World Cup.

[Reporter:]

When the attack is on, the batsman is attacking, it's from the media hub. So how do you go ahead and what do you tell yourself when the batsman is in such mood and then attack?

[Kuldeep Yadav:]

I mean - when obviously the other team needs like 10 runs or 12 runs per over and the batter going against you. So, my plan is to just stick with the length, and obviously when they try to attack you, if you have a proper plan against them and you are bowling in probably the better length and you have maximum chances of getting the batter out. So that is my thinking, not thinking I have to get him out just the length.

[Reporter:]

And if he misses, I hid the fact that you've come and played, you've come into the side for these games in the Caribbean rather than the US. Was there a thought that maybe conditions would suit you better here? Has it just been a part of the plan? And how have you been able to be not in the side keeping yourself ready and then coming in at these really important matches?

[Kuldeep Yadav:]

Obviously, I wasn't playing. Actually, I was playing as a 12th man there. I was helping out the teammates and carrying the drinks. That is more like playing. I didn't bowl there but I would have loved to bowl there. But it's more like an Australian sort of wicket. But here I played, I made my T20 ODI debut here back in 2017. I knew the condition very well, just the length and trying to vary my pace. So perfectly for spinners to come here and bowl.
 
Shakib Al Hasan (Bangladesh player) post-match Press Conference - 22nd June 2024

[Reporter:]

It’s going to be pretty difficult for you guys now with the couple of losses. How do you keep getting the fighting spirit, the chances, do you think you still have one of getting to the semi-final?

[Shakib Al Hasan:]

To be honest, I don't think we have a chance to play the semi-final anymore after today's loss. But having said that, the next game will be an opportunity for us to get a win on our belt before we finish up this tournament. We'd love to finish this tournament on a high. We have to face Afghanistan which is a very good side. So, we have to be at our best to be able to win against them.

[Reporter:]

What do you think has gone wrong for you at this stage of the tournament?

[Shakib Al Hasan:]

Well obviously, when you are playing against a team like Australia and India, you have to bring your A game. I think we are lacking in those skill and strength areas. Also, I would say we couldn't do the basic thing longer enough to be able to create any sort of pressure. And throughout this World Cup, as a batting unit, I don't think we did justify to ourselves. I think we had the potential to score big runs. The last two games we played here was very good. Wicket probably 175-185 is the power score. We are well short of that against Australia. Today I thought India scored 20 more runs but having said that, the intent we had to show from the start of the innings, I don't think it was there. So, there are a few areas that we can point finger but having said that, these two games will teach us so many things and hopefully we can take those things and bring it to the next game so that we can get a win before we leave the Caribbean.

[Reporter:]

Especially with the batting, it sometimes seems that there's not quite the self-belief of being able to push in and get to those really high scores. Is that fair enough? Is that something that you need to go and adapt?

[Shakib Al Hasan:]

I think you are spot on. Obviously, we have a shortage of run as a batting unit. So, the freedom we needed, the confidence we needed, I don't think it was there. Everyone can see it who understands the game. And that's the area I thought we are lacking throughout this World Cup.

[Reporter:]

You started with the spinners actually. What was the thinking behind it?

[Shakib Al Hasan:]

Well, that's difficult for me to explain. It's coach and captain's decision. They make the decision whom to ball, when to ball. So, it's hard for me to explain. But what I can understand, we thought that the wicket would be a little slower. It looked a little drier, maybe at the start of the game. So that's why they thought that there might be some help for the spinners. So that's why I think the captain decided to go with the spinners.

[Reporter:]

There was no help?

[Shakib Al Hasan:]

It was a very good batting wicket. That's what I will say. I think in middle overs here in the Caribbean, bowling as a spinner is a little easier than bowling in the powerplay. Because with the new ball, every team looks to try to capitalize the power play because as soon as the ball gets older and softer, it gets difficult to score runs.

[Reporter:]

You are a left-arm spinner yourself, Shakib. I just wanted to understand what is your analysis of the deconstruction of Kuldeep Yadav as a spinner?

[Shakib Al Hasan:]

In last 5-7 years what we have seen is spinners have more effect on this format, especially the leg spinner or the Chinaman, they have a lot more effect than the finger spinner. And that's been the trend for last five, seven years.

[Reporter:]

And Kuldeep's bowling?

[Shakib Al Hasan:]

Yeah, Kuldeep, he's been performing really well. When I saw his stats today, when he was about to bowl his first ball. I think at 61 or 62 he gets in 36 or 35 matches. So that shows how good a bowler he is and he can only grow from here. And at this moment he is a confident bowler. Captain has given him that confidence and he's bowling beautifully for India.

[Reporter:]

Do you think that on hindsight it would have been good to bat first or what do you see there about that?

[Shakib Al Hasan:]

Yeah, I mean personally if you ask me in Caribbean it's - I think one or two games I think when England chased that 180 other than that batting first has been the trend for most of the teams and they have been very successful. So, if you look at the stats, I think, yeah, ideally you would have batted first, but maybe captain and coach thought otherwise. And we thought that we can restrict them in a reasonable way so that there is a score in our head and we know how we should go about when we bat. So maybe that's the reason we decided to field first.
 
IN Ashwin's program usually they discuss post match analysis with humor. One comment from the guest "Bangladesh captain should be arrested and given life imprisonment for choosing to field. Also not picking shoriful was a crime" :D
 
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