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India [230/4] beat South Africa [227/9] by 6 wickets in the 8th match of the 2019 World Cup

C'mon bru...u gotta show more faith in your guys than that....its still early days....

These guys don't even believe in themselves. The odds are simply stacked against us. It'll take a once in a lifetime bowling performance to win this match.
 
Looks like safrica are gonna lose this one and will eventually be knocked out soon.

Unless rabada does something magical
 
Anyways all the people getting excited by the India Pak match it’s in Manchester it’s also gonna Be a wash out and if it even isn’t it’s gonna be on and off day pointless match
 
India showing how vital specialist spinners are.

Especially if you have quality ones. Its a shame we didnt develop Usama Mir, Gohar, Asghar etc. Two quality spinners in tandem will make most of the teams around struggle. India does have advantage of decent Pace bowling batting all rounder so they can play two specialist spinners. Pak doesnt have a decent pace bowling batting all rounder to follow the strategy either Amir Yamin, Hammad Azam can be tried or Shadab can be asked to do the job at no 7 otherwise we cant play two specialist spinners. Though we should still have groomed another one with Shadab.
 
A little bit of outside the box thinking here , Amla struggles against top quality fast bowing early on. But he is still good against seam , why not put him in the middle order and put Markham at the top of the order ?

I think Amla would have done a better job against spin.
 
Especially if you have quality ones. Its a shame we didnt develop Usama Mir, Gohar, Asghar etc. Two quality spinners in tandem will make most of the teams around struggle. India does have advantage of decent Pace bowling batting all rounder so they can play two specialist spinners. Pak doesnt have a decent pace bowling batting all rounder to follow the strategy either Amir Yamin, Hammad Azam can be tried or Shadab can be asked to do the job at no 7 otherwise we cant play two specialist spinners. Though we should still have groomed another one with Shadab.

1 specialist spinner would have been enough . We could play Imad or Shadab alongside a specialist spinner.
 
It's over. Well played India.

Has there been any grumblings about Otis Gibson's position ? Has presided over some bad results - Sri Lanka debacle (home Tests and away Tests), losing 5-1 to India at home and a poor World Cup campaign thus far.

Or is there enough quality young talent (Hamza looked decent) that just needs to come in ?
 
Especially if you have quality ones. Its a shame we didnt develop Usama Mir, Gohar, Asghar etc. Two quality spinners in tandem will make most of the teams around struggle. India does have advantage of decent Pace bowling batting all rounder so they can play two specialist spinners. Pak doesnt have a decent pace bowling batting all rounder to follow the strategy either Amir Yamin, Hammad Azam can be tried or Shadab can be asked to do the job at no 7 otherwise we cant play two specialist spinners. Though we should still have groomed another one with Shadab.

All this theory of yours came to and end when I read hammmad Azams name in your post
 
Two poor shots by SA to gift wickets Pakidtani style. Duminy needs to justify his place .
 
Two overrated players at the crease now, Duminy and Miller.

I dont think they are rated that highly now, Miller is a good hitter of the ball and Duminy underachieved big time in his career considering how highly he was rated when he was young.
 
That’s even more selfish. Country comes first unless you family is at the most vulnerable. You can’t be a true patriot if you do such thing before a major event. The least you can do is play the event ahead and give your country one final chance with you being in the side!

It’s not like as if his fam are in danger. We’ve heard people play cricket even when their parent passed away day or two before. The fact is AB D is a missionary, selfish cricketer! It’s okay for him and his fam for him to spend 2/3 months in India playing IPL earning big bucks.

Hmm...i felt the same...why play the useless IPL when ur country needs u more....i mean he could do without the 2 months in freakin 45 deg heat in the IPL and grace the world stage for WC....i dont know about selfish...and i guess u meant 'mercenary' for 'missionary' ...LOL ..but yeah...as an AB fan...i also felt deeply let down....when its the WC...u want the best to play....steyn getting injured is also a big blow for this fan of pace bowling
 
A little bit of outside the box thinking here , Amla struggles against top quality fast bowing early on. But he is still good against seam , why not put him in the middle order and put Markham at the top of the order ?

I think Amla would have done a better job against spin.

Good idea. But Amla looks out of sort
 
Anyways all the people getting excited by the India Pak match it’s in Manchester it’s also gonna Be a wash out and if it even isn’t it’s gonna be on and off day pointless match

You cannot predict the weather that far out in UK. Wait until 1-2 days before.
 
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Another wicket. Pakistan failed against that duo in Asia cup. This is pretty lethal
 
South Africa is better off without bottles and weak hearted players like Amla and Dumminy.
 
Useless, overrated mug Duminy gone.

When was the last time this guy won a game for South Africa?
 
Has there been any grumblings about Otis Gibson's position ? Has presided over some bad results - Sri Lanka debacle (home Tests and away Tests), losing 5-1 to India at home and a poor World Cup campaign thus far.

Or is there enough quality young talent (Hamza looked decent) that just needs to come in ?

He's generally well liked by the media, but we all know how quickly that can change. In my honest opinion, he's a mediocre coach.
 
Lol South Africa just playing terrible cricket India isn’t even bowling that well

Are you kidding. They are drifting, flighting at the eye line, turning. This is continuation of their torture in SA. These 2 wrecked SA in SA. Not turning pitches. One guy is world no.3 another world no.6.
 
Never seen Duminy do anything, amazed how his average is pretty good for lower order bat.
 
Are you kidding. They are drifting, flighting at the eye line, turning. This is continuation of their torture in SA. These 2 wrecked SA in SA. Not turning pitches. One guy is world no.3 another world no.6.

That and the fact that South Africa look short of confidence.
 
All this theory of yours came to and end when I read hammmad Azams name in your post

Lol! That is why this theory cant be follwed as we just have mediocre batting all rounders who can are seamers. Other than Aamir Yamin and Hammad there is no batting all rounder who can ball as seamer. I was just stating available names, not saying they should be selected. Otherwise if we think Shadab as bowling all rounder, another bowling all rounder like Amad Butt who is also a seamer can maybe do the job at no 7 and 8 and then a second specialist spinner can be played. Cant think of any other way, if you have something in mind I would love to hear.
 
Kohli should bring Jahdav on with 2 lefties at the crease. South Africa won't reach 40th over if they the continue with spin.
 
Get rid of the likes of Amla and Duminy for good and build the team around hamza, janneman malan, QDK and Markram and any other youngster who look like they have the talent.
 
Are you kidding. They are drifting, flighting at the eye line, turning. This is continuation of their torture in SA. These 2 wrecked SA in SA. Not turning pitches. One guy is world no.3 another world no.6.


Chahal yes kuldeep no kuldeep got this wicket cause of chahal as well
 
Cannot believe someone like Dumminy got years of chances but Roussow hardly got any. Roussow wouldn't have done worse with the same backing.
 
Get rid of the likes of Amla and Duminy for good and build the team around hamza, janneman malan, QDK and Markram and any other youngster who look like they have the talent.

Andile is talented and has character more importantly.
 
SA should look for redemption post WC. Most of their best crop has taken the kolpak route, and whoever are left, are unsure of their future or are at the fag end of their careers.

Imo SA should just scrap their racial quota system & go for 100% coloured players in the squad. That way, they may have a decent LOI team by next WC, and there won't be any uncertainties or untimely retirements months before WC.
 
South Africa is better off without bottles and weak hearted players like Amla and Dumminy.
Are you joking about Amla. He has contributed more often than not. He was playing good last match too before hit by bouncer.
 
Are you joking about Amla. He has contributed more often than not. He was playing good last match too before hit by bouncer.

Amla is past his best but he always bottles it in ICC tournaments.

Time to move on.
 
Cannot believe someone like Dumminy got years of chances but Roussow hardly got any. Roussow wouldn't have done worse with the same backing.

Roussow was such a talent. Even Ingram would have been really valuable by now if he would have retained by SA
 
SA should look for redemption post WC. Most of their best crop has taken the kolpak route, and whoever are left, are unsure of their future or are at the fag end of their careers.

Imo SA should just scrap their racial quota system & go for 100% coloured players in the squad. That way, they may have a decent LOI team by next WC, and there won't be any uncertainties or untimely retirements months before WC.

No batsmen coming through amongst coloured players.
 
Hmm...i felt the same...why play the useless IPL when ur country needs u more....i mean he could do without the 2 months in freakin 45 deg heat in the IPL and grace the world stage for WC....i dont know about selfish...and i guess u meant 'mercenary' for 'missionary' ...LOL ..but yeah...as an AB fan...i also felt deeply let down....when its the WC...u want the best to play....steyn getting injured is also a big blow for this fan of pace bowling

Yeah LOL
TYPO!! I meant mercenary!!
 
Roussow was such a talent. Even Ingram would have been really valuable by now if he would have retained by SA

Ingram got chances but never convinced .

Roussow played some good knocks but was never a regular.
 
It's funny when all your comments are about how overrated Indian players are but it is others who are the keyboard warriors here. Cognitive dissonance at its finest.

I only said kuldeep is over rated And bumrah and chahal are world class bowlers and those are the ones that have bowled the best you can ask your country mate [MENTION=140806]jnaveen1980[/MENTION] as well I’ve always told him chahal and bumrah are world class
 
India doing excellent so far ... Still only halfway stage of RSA innings .. so let's wait and see
 
The fourth spot will be between westindies,newzealand ,pakistan and Bangladesh.South Africa,srilanka and Afghanistan will be out.
 
No batsmen coming through amongst coloured players.

It's better to invest in not so good coloured ones, rather than better non coloured one's who decide to abandon the ship months before a major fixture like the wc, or take the Kolpak route. That would suit best both the camps. The non coloured one's will have a clear mind that they don't have any future in SA cricket, & the coloured one's will certainly see a lot more openings & thus take much interest from a young age.

Just my 3 cents worth.
 
Even if SA lost two games chasing. They should’ve bowled first. Why? Because India has not played for few weeks, under the clouds, overcast conditions they might struggle to find good form. And I reckon that would’ve been the better option for SA.
 
It's better to invest in not so good coloured ones, rather than better non coloured one's who decide to abandon the ship months before a major fixture like the wc, or take the Kolpak route. That would suit best both the camps. The non coloured one's will have a clear mind that they don't have any future in SA cricket, & the coloured one's will certainly see a lot more openings & thus take much interest from a young age.

Just my 3 cents worth.

Coloured and black are different races in South Africa. Hendricks and Duminy are coloured. Rabada and Andile are black.
 
The way to do damage at the WC is pick up wickets with the new ball and if you have quality spin in the middle, they will do the rest.
 
Even Brian Lara is saying in commentary that this spin isn’t that threatening it’s just that there are no quality players of spin in the world and if there are they are extremely less
 
reza Hendricks would have been an ideal replacement for amla.South Africa should have selected him.
 
The only player I can think of who’s quality against this type of spin is Peter handscomb from Australian who isn’t even selected which was an absolute disgrace
 
The only player I can think of who’s quality against this type of spin is Peter handscomb from Australian who isn’t even selected which was an absolute disgrace

He should have easily replaced one of the fast bowlers ,kane Richardson.He is to valuable a player to not feature in the world cup.
 
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