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India [326 & 70/2] beat Australia [195 & 200] by 8 wickets to win 2nd Test [1-1]

zain7077 said:
2030-2040

2020-2030 will be Babar’s
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Babar isn’t Indian.

Also only so much he can do without a real team to back him up. My greatest fear is Babar retiring without a major victory to his name.

Gill though? Probably will win the 2023 WC and 1-2 T20 world cups towards the second half of this decade. Part of a historic Test win in Australia on his debut. Will likely win many more fantastic games for his team in years to come.

Most of Babar’s best efforts will come in vain. Maybe like Tendulkar, who was unfruitful for large parts of his career though, bless him, Tendulkar got a fairytale ending to his hard work in 2011. Not everyone is lucky enough to get that.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
The way Aggarwal Sweets and Pujara Bhandar is playing, it looks like a 9 men team. :inti
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Pujara Bhandar has a bit of reputation. Their bhandars are resilient and patient. So, will be persisted.

It seems Sharmaji ka ladka will make sure we don't get any Aggarwal sweets next game :inti
 
Great come back India. Congrats guys. Total team effort. Everyone contributed may be with an exception of Mayank.
 
Gill's debut and good performance, Rahane has two wins against Aus now one in India and one here, both very crucial.
 
Probably the hardest victory for the Indian team.

It's very hard to come back in Aus. They did it despite missing 3-4 main players.
 
This has to be the greatest comeback by any team against a top class team like Australia in their own den.
Having bundled out for a paltry 36, India was done and dusted for the rest of the series as Kohli went home on paternity leave, Shami sidelined and losing Yadav in the 2nd innings.

Rahane has taken greater responsibility as a captain and he is shining in that role.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Half asterisk only because we have to retain the series in order to remove that asterisk completely. :inti
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Look at our team bro, No Kohli,Shami,Ishant even Umesh is injured lol.. if anything there should be * to Aus team for such a performance.
 
This has to be the best Indian overseas victory ever considering the circumstances preceding the match.
 
Congratulations to India. Outplayed Aussies in all the departments. Jadeja, a lucky charm for India played a huge role by hitting 50 and then picking couple of important wickets.
 
One of the finest comebacks in the history of the game, period. Proud of our team.
 
Agarwal is not cut out to play express pace with his high back lift. He needs to change his stance to shine against super quicks like Starc and Cummins.
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
Babar isn’t Indian.

Also only so much he can do without a real team to back him up. My greatest fear is Babar retiring without a major victory to his name.

Gill though? Probably will win the 2023 WC and 1-2 T20 world cups towards the second half of this decade. Part of a historic Test win in Australia on his debut. Will likely win many more fantastic games for his team in years to come.

Most of Babar’s best efforts will come in vain. Maybe like Tendulkar, who was unfruitful for large parts of his career though, bless him, Tendulkar got a fairytale ending to his hard work in 2011. Not everyone is lucky enough to get that.
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Yet SRT was rated as one the best 5 in history by the end of 2001. I don't think Babar will be rated for wins. He will be rated for making big runs against top-class bowling when the match is alive.
 
Considering the odds , this will go down as among India's best victory.
 
guna said:
Agarwal is not cut out to play express pace with his high back lift. He needs to change his stance to shine against super quicks like Starc and Cummins.
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He has played them well last time. But I think he didn’t have this much of a backlift back then.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Half asterisk only because we have to retain the series in order to remove that asterisk completely. :inti
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Only if you add asterix to our every loss when we had players missing. Or do the double Standards Standards apply to only india. Even in this post your reality seeps out
 
Rajdeep said:
No Kohli, no Shami, no Ishant....one bowler down in the middle of the test....playing with 10 players....most umpire calls going in Australia's favour...losing the toss - STILL WE BEAT YOU AT YOUR HOME.

Unfortunately you learned the lesson in a hard way. No go hiding where sun don't shine and come back again during 3rd test for more trolling.
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He is not an Aussie. This forum has many masquerading as Aussies, indians, etc
 
Dingolfy said:
He has played them well last time. But I think he didn’t have this much of a backlift back then.
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He used to adjust his lift back then. Then he became a successful t20 batter and his test batting is going KL Rahul way. He needs to rework his game again.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
No we don't need to do that. :yk
We won a test without 4 main players.
Get out of here, the asterisk has been removed.

Gill Pant Siraj., the future looks bright
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It is because of Pant we had to chase 70 though. His poor keeping made sure we don't win by an innings. Half asterisk on Indian team because we need to win another test to remove it and a full asterisk on Pant because I am still not sure about his wicketkeeping. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Half asterisk only because we have to retain the series in order to remove that asterisk completely. :inti
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I think Aus has not crossed 200 in 4 innings despite India missing their first-choice attack. I don't think an asterisk is needed anymore. They outplayed Aus in 3 out of 4 tests last time. Right now they are 1-1. No matter what happens next, huge credit for Indians to come back here.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
No we don't need to do that. :yk
We won a test without 4 main players.
Get out of here, the asterisk has been removed.

Gill Pant Siraj., the future looks bright
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you can tell he is deeply disappointed that we won
 
[MENTION=149881]OffDrive[/MENTION] had promised that if India won this test he wouldn't tell anything against India anymore..
 
Indiafan said:
Only if you add asterix to our every loss when we had players missing. Or do the double Standards Standards apply to only india. Even in this post your reality seeps out
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Once again you don't make any sense. Why do you even quote me lol? You will once again run away from here. :inti
 
Won without kohli, ishant, shami, yadav and this with Yadav down in this match itself. Batting second too. Most impressive overseas win.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
It is because of Pant we had to chase 70 though. His poor keeping made sure we don't win by an innings. Half asterisk on Indian team because we need to win another test to remove it and a full asterisk on Pant because I am still not sure about his wicketkeeping. :inti
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Dude why the pretence? You don't care about india winning anything . You dont care about tests.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Once again you don't make any sense. Why do you even quote me lol? You will once again run away from here. :inti
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I avoid this forum because now it's infested with trolls like you pretending to be indians and Aussies. This is exactly what killed BBC TMS forum where Indians and Pakistanis used to pretend to be each other and dragged it down
 
Rankings are indeed very accurate. India in top 3, Pakistan in the bottom 3. India's performances in Australia over the last 20 years vis a vis Pakistan sums it up
 
So happy that we won. And more importantly, the WAY we won, showed character, being positive without the "aggreshun". Good man, Rahane.
 
A Kohli-less India beat an Australia with Smith, Labu, Cummins, Starc, Lyon, Hazlewood. Well done :14:
 
Indiafan said:
I avoid this forum because now it's infested with trolls like you pretending to be indians and Aussies. This is exactly what killed BBC TMS forum where Indians and Pakistanis used to pretend to be each other and dragged it down
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Bhai kitni baar ek hi line bologe? You keep saying this line and still post here. Go and ask the mods from where I am. I am pretty sure you will be shocked. All you do here is keep raising question marks over my identity because I don't like your baby boy Pant. I don't praise him, keep his picture in my wallet or kiss his picture before sleeping every night. And still you want me to take a third class poster like you seriously who just runs away everytime I ask logical questions and post stats.

I have been active here for 8 long years. I have seen enough trolls here. They don't last longer than 3-4 months. I must be pretty good then. :inti
 
Congrats but clearly scripted to suit the interest of media rights etc. I wouldn’t get too excited about this. The real India is a lot close to 36 AO than whatever Bollywood script played out here.

Stay grounded and real.
 
Third_Umpire said:
Congrats but clearly scripted to suit the interest of media rights etc. I wouldn’t get too excited about this. The real India is a lot close to 36 AO than whatever Bollywood script played out here.

Stay grounded and real.
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Why did ENG not do this in 2018 ? :inti
 
I have to say more than Kohli we missed Ishant.. and a damn 3rd bowler that keeps getting injured.
 
One of our greatest ever overseas wins. To think it has come without Kohli, Ishant, Shami and Yadav (half the game). Also after what happened in the last test.

Well done guys.
 
It proves once more that our win in '18 was not a fluke.
 
oneindia said:
Sachin was carrying similar Indian team. He used to win matches for India single handedly.
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Sachin couldn't win overseas tests (or even World Cup ODIs) for that matter mainly because he didn't had this kind of bowling lineup! (And started to achieve something after finding good partners like Dravid, Ganguly, Laxman, Sehwag, Yuvaraj, etc)
 
Another difference bw India and Pakistan is the selectors. Unlike Pakistan they do not tolerate mediocrity for long and if an Indian player regardless of his numerous past performances does not perform for a series or two, he is send packing and replaced by someone else and it is this sort of competition in the side that makes their players strive to be the best versions of themselves.

In contrast Pakistan has more or less been playing the same squad players for the past 10 years and hardly any coach, player is held responsible for the team consistently lying in the lower 3 rankings.

Yes an argument could be made that India can afford to be ruthless because of the abundance of talent, quality in their system and Pakistan cannot afford to be this ruthless because of the absence of quality in their system but some food for thought. We won the 2017 CT because of new blood and unless our players, coaches are not pressurized to get out of their comfort zones, our rankings will eternally stay in the bottom tier
 
More than Mayank, Pujara's lack of form is more of a concern. Especially the way he got out in the 2nd innings in this test.
 
AamchiMumbaikar said:
True. Our bowling has become rock solid for SENA tours now. Wish we had 2 more batters like fab 4!
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Yeah, even the replacements for the injured bowlers are doing great. That's the greatest positive for our bowling.
 
Sunil Gavaskar said "I will have Mayank - Rohit opening, Gill in middle order and Vihari goes out for the third Test".
I'm not agree
 
Missing [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] on this thread, he doesnt have anything to add about India’s ‘fluke’ win today with their mediocre bowlers? 😆
 
They were showing highlights of Tendulkar's 116 at MCG in '99 test series. What grace the man had while playing his strokes!
 
Devadwal said:
Sunil Gavaskar said "I will have Mayank - Rohit opening, Gill in middle order and Vihari goes out for the third Test".
I'm not agree
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Vihari has to go, just hasn't looked secure at crease at any time.
 
Bumrah was nailing yorker after yorker. Aus batters were terrible. But Cummins and Green did well to keep those balls off their stumps
 
Some stats from CI,

32 - Years since no Australian batsman scored a fifty in a Test match at home. Incidentally, that was also at the MCG against West Indies. In the last thirty years, away from home, this has happened to Australia only three times.

79 - The highest score for an Australian batsmen in the last six Tests between Australia and India in Australia. Marcus Harris scored this in Sydney last year. Since the start of 2016 there have been just two batsmen who have scored Test centuries for Australia against India - Steven Smith and Glenn Maxwell.

2.52 - Run rate for Australia this series - the lowest ever in a home series starting from 1990. Three of the six lowest run rates for Australia in this period have come against India.
 
Best bowling figure in a test for india
2018 Joburg test win - Bumrah
2018 Trent Bridge test win - Bumrah
2018 Adelaide test win - Bumrah
2018 MCG test win - Bumrah
2020 MCG test win - Bumrah
That's show how important is bumrah for Indian team success
 
Mamoon said:
Already marked him as the player of the decade in a thread last month.

He is going to be a legend.
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hmmm....long way to go....- needs to be of proven ability on bouncy andseamy wickets consistently, needs to have better footwork or at least a better leave- if he is to be an opener, needs to be tested in variety of match situations
Donot know how hot he is against quality spin, did'tn see him much againt lyon in this match, imagine facing Herath, lyon, tahir, etc on a turning wicket
possibly needs to work on his patience-and tendency to thrash every ball-I guess IPL has a lot to do with this....
Most importantly needs to be insulated from the over the top hype and hoopla that surrounds the circus that is indian cricket media and keep grounded and working hard.
Yes, potential is for all to see but he's surely not the next sachin...
 
Unbelievable comeback! Surely the second best win in our Test cricket history after Perth 2008. Arguably even better that too....

Happy for Siraj and Gill. Had absolutely brilliant debuts. And Rahane once again proving why Kohli doesn't deserve to captain us in any format.
 
Ravindra Jadeja is certainly good enough as a specialist batsman in Test cricket but it is his pure all-round skills that gives the Indian team much-needed balance in the traditional format, feels head coach Ravi Shastri. Jadeja's contribution in India's eight-wicket victory against Australia at the MCG on Tuesday can't be ignored as he scored an important half-century, picked three wickets and also took two catches in his 50th Test. Asked if India could look at Jadeja as a pure batsman, Shastri said: "He is a genuine all-rounder and that's why he bats where he is. He can bat at No.6 or even No.5, on given occasions but is a genuine all-rounder. That's why he lends a lot of balance to the side."

For someone who has 216 Test wickets apart from 1926 runs, Jadeja's restrictive left-arm spin and ability to quickly get through his overs gives respite to the team's fast bowlers.

"Also when we play overseas, there is a chance of one of the (fast) bowlers getting injured. You saw with Umesh (Yadav)," said Shastri, referring to the bowler, who is set to miss the next Test due to a calf muscle injury.

"With Jadeja, you get that balance and also the fast bowlers get a respite with both Jaddu and Ash (R Ashwin) bowling."

https://sports.ndtv.com/australia-v...indian-cricket-team-says-ravi-shastri-2345041
 
Australia have been fined 40 per cent of their match fee and penalised four ICC World Test Championship points for maintaining a slow over-rate against India in the second Test that ended in Melbourne on Tuesday.

David Boon of the Emirates ICC Elite Panel of Match Referees imposed the sanction after Tim Paine’s side was ruled to be two overs short of the target after time allowances were taken into consideration.

In accordance with Article 2.22 of the ICC Code of Conduct for Players and Player Support Personnel, which relates to minimum over-rate offences, players are fined 20 per cent of their match fees for every over their side fails to bowl in the allotted time. In addition, as per Article 16.11.2 of the ICC World Test Championship playing conditions, a side is penalised two points for each over short. Consequently, four World Test Championship points have been deducted from Australia’s points total.

Paine pleaded guilty to the offence and accepted the proposed sanction, so there was no need for a formal hearing.

On-field umpires Bruce Oxenford and Paul Reiffel, third umpire Paul Wilson and fourth umpire Gerard Abood leveled the charge.
 
Robert said:
Only if India wins the series.
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No they don't. 2018 India was in peak form when they toured Australia. Entire year revolved around team India strategizing and formulating a plan to win in Australia. Just trust me on this. I don't see Warner or Smith making any difference in 2018. That notion was put to bed. Just in peak conditioned and completely focused on creating history in 2018 when India toured down under.

Btw that wasn't even Indias full strength team.

Jaddu din't play
 
King Kong said:
There is nothing asterisk about that win. Both India and Australia fielded their best possible teams available at that time, and India won....easily.
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Can't say as I agree. England beat Australia rather easily home and away in the middles eighties - when Alderman, Hogg, Rackemann, Hohns, Hughes, Yallop and Dyson were all banned. Alderman alone would have made a massive difference - and did, when he returned for the 1989 series which barring the rain would have been 0-6 Australia.
 
tyron_woodley said:
No they don't. 2018 India was in peak form when they toured Australia. Entire year revolved around team India strategizing and formulating a plan to win in Australia. Just trust me on this. I don't see Warner or Smith making any difference in 2018. That notion was put to bed. Just in peak conditioned and completely focused on creating history in 2018 when India toured down under.

Btw that wasn't even Indias full strength team.

Jaddu din't play
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Yet the same team was marmalised 1-4 by a weak side in England, so I don't rate them.
 
A great display of batting and bowling from India, wonderful cricket.

A team that is on the up, and certainly looks like they have the foundation to become one of the greatest teams in the history of the sport.

They have almost everything perfect apart from a few injuries here and there.

They are the benchmark for a top side in modern cricket, and as neighbours, we should also appreciate what they have done to reach this position, the players they backed, and what they made from their resources.

There is a lot to learn for PCB from the methods of BCCI, and we have a blueprint in front of us about what is needed to succeed in foreign conditions like Australia.

Though I don't rule Australia out of the series yet, I still think that this Indian side is capable of toppling them over, and doing something remarkable.
 
Robert said:
Yet the same team was marmalised 1-4 by a weak side in England, so I don't rate them.
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Same team din't Play. Go have a look.

Bumrah missed 2 games
Bhuvi din't play the whole series.

Mayank never played
Rohit din't play or Gill whatever you like from the two

Jaddu and Ashwin never played together

You never played or beat our best team. Besides we dint play any practice games before a major test series. We went straight from odi to tests.

I am 100© sure India can beat England in England if they play at full strength, provided they play some county practice games as well.

Mayank and Rohit were in form in 2018. Mayank din't play IPl. He modified his stance after 2018.
 
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2018's best team of India would be as follows:

Mayank
Rohit or shaw
Pujara
Kohli
Rahane
Pant
Jaddu
Ashwin or pandya
Bhuvi
Ishant
bumrah

Bhuvi is our best exponent of swing so I left out Shami. And no England never beat that team. Had you beaten that team then you have a point Robert. Otherwise no. Sorry.
 
Robert said:
Can't say as I agree. England beat Australia rather easily home and away in the middles eighties - when Alderman, Hogg, Rackemann, Hohns, Hughes, Yallop and Dyson were all banned. Alderman alone would have made a massive difference - and did, when he returned for the 1989 series which barring the rain would have been 0-6 Australia.
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That's Ebgland. India isn't England.
 
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