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India close Day 5 of the WTC final at 2/64, leading New Zealand by 32 runs

Indian never learnt any lessons or nor in future ,Do not play two spinner in England series as they will prepare green track .play one spinner + Thakur + 3 pacers . chose playing 11 based on pitch rather than usual 2 spinner theory
 
An Indian win is pretty much out of the equation now.

But I think NZ should be disappointment at not taking a hefty lead after the start their openers gave them.
 
I love test cricket!
You can't tell me even as a neutral fan that you wouldn't want to watch this next session coming up.

NZ quicks and Indian openers here we go!
 
Last Monetarist said:
Only way India can win from here is if Rohit goes berserk and scores a century in a session.
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Likely won’t go berserk but will also not go for a blockathon. Despite the fleeting sunshine, the blueprint is pretty much clear: score some runs or get out without them eventually. Just need to pick the right balls to go.
 
Mesozoic said:
An Indian win is pretty much out of the equation now.

But I think NZ should be disappointment at not taking a hefty lead after the start their openers gave them.
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I don't think our timid batting line will score above 160 so NZ is mostly win this match .we have such a pathetic tail also
 
Last Monetarist said:
The decision to play two spinners looking more horrendous by the hour.
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No.

I repeat, Jadeja is not in the playing XI for his spin. He is in the playing XI because he offers the best substitute to a seam bowling all rounder like Pandya who would've been ideal in these conditions. Pick Siraj and you would've a long tail. And in case of Vihari, Jadeja was in better form with the bat than Vihari anyway. Shardul Thakur is arguable, which I would get behind but I can see why Kohli went with a trusted option in Jadeja. With Shardul, you're not sure he'll bat everytime like he did at the Gabba. Jadeja is more solid.
 
Guys...fontguve up hope too soon.

You neber know.

If the pitch spins tom, its game on.

It will be poetic justice if it does.

We played the test in favorable conditions for NZ till now and now they get to play in ours.

:D
 
Ab Fan said:
India need to bat well in 3rd inning. Bat three sessions and put 200+ runs on board, no hurry.
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I am sure kohli is not thinking likewise. They would want to bat normally for next couple of sessions without thinking of a win or declaration
 
India will be all out around 180 and NZ will chase target of 140-150 run at loss of 5-6 wicket.
 
Batting has gotten slightly easier with the sun back on. Bounce has also reduced.

Nz should aim to get India out for under 150.

A chase of 120 will be interesting. All 3 results still possible despite rain
 
Devadwal said:
Indian never learnt any lessons or nor in future ,Do not play two spinner in England series as they will prepare green track .play one spinner + Thakur + 3 pacers . chose playing 11 based on pitch rather than usual 2 spinner theory
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Our selection is fine.
Bumrah is the culprit, he failed very badly. Couldn't even take tailenders wickets.
 
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King_Kohli said:
Southee+ Jamieson +Boult = 58 Runs
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That's basicy what hurt us here. They also scored them quickly.

If New Zealand bowl us out under 180 even till tea, they would go for a win. Their is enough time to bowl us out till tea( about 90 overs).
 
Yk313 said:
Likely won’t go berserk but will also not go for a blockathon. Despite the fleeting sunshine, the blueprint is pretty much clear: score some runs or get out without them eventually. Just need to pick the right balls to go.
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There are 40 overs left in theory tonight, they can bat for 15 more tomorrow, and leave themselves 80 overs to bowl New Zealand out. Suspect they'll need a minimum lead of 280, which leaves them needing to bat at 5 rpo. Unlikely in these conditions.
 
Ahmed216 said:
I am sure kohli is not thinking likewise. They would want to bat normally for next couple of sessions without thinking of a win or declaration
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That is what I said. No point of thinking of a win. NZ can chase 120-130 in final session but don't think we will bowl them out in 30-35 overs time.
 
Shami, Ishant and especially Bumrah should learn from NZ's tailenders. Bumrah is useless with the bat. He has an average of 2, 3 and 4 in tests, odis and t20s respectively. :inti
 
Ab Fan said:
That is what I said. No point of thinking of a win. NZ can chase 120-130 in final session but don't think we will bowl them out in 30-35 overs time.
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Think Shastri and Kohli are both gamblers, they'd probably sooner risk losing this match than settle for a draw. It's intriguing for sure.
 
Damn Southee is swinging it around corners.

Haha.

How mediocre were we in bowling?

Anyways..gotta channel in thd inner spirit and fight. :D
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Shami, Ishant and especially Bumrah should learn from NZ's tailenders. Bumrah is useless with the bat. He has an average of 2, 3 and 4 in tests, odis and t20s respectively. :inti
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And then he is also not contributing with ball. He is also a slouch in field, basically a total liability if he doesn't perform with ball.
 
If NZ do not waste overs with Grandhome leaking easy runs and bring Jamieson early into attack then this match could have an exciting end.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Damn Southee is swinging it around corners.

Haha.

How mediocre were we in bowling?

Anyways..gotta channel in thd inner spirit and fight. :D
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Still we matched them.Only Southee's score was difference while our tail is useless

We also bowled in sun today
 
Last Monetarist said:
There are 40 overs left in theory tonight, they can bat for 15 more tomorrow, and leave themselves 80 overs to bowl New Zealand out. Suspect they'll need a minimum lead of 280, which leaves them needing to bat at 5 rpo. Unlikely in these conditions.
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I didn’t mean in terms of forcing a result. I meant in terms of a general batting approach if conditions remain damp.
 
Need to play Jamieson and Wagner well.

Wagner is a second inning specialist. He is playing for that role only.
 
Mini victory to Rohit here. Trent losing his patience to go around the wicket searching for a wicket. Rohit capitalising on it fully.
 
Shami deserved a 5-fer. Been a while he hasn't taken any. Always gets stuck at 4 wickets.
 
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Despite its efficacy, the one thing I would want to change about Southee is the release point of his stock delivery.

Not sure if he normally likes to bowl it wide of the crease but looks like he wants unnecessarily accentuate the angle. The same delivery from closer to the stumps may cause more uncertainty and bring sharper gains from his indipper.
 
A drawn test ain't the same feeling. We should go for a win. But looks a long shot.
 
Boult is not the same test bowler as he was 2 years back.

Probably due to too much white ball cricket.....his avg. pace has dropped and his action has gotten more round-armish which has reduced his swing.
 
Yk313 said:
Despite its efficacy, the one thing I would want to change about Southee is the release point of his stock delivery.

Not sure if he normally likes to bowl it wide of the crease but looks like he wants unnecessarily accentuate the angle. The same delivery from closer to the stumps may cause more uncertainty and bring sharper gains from his indipper.
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He naturally used to bowl from wide of the crease, however, he made a conscious effort to get closer to the stumps about 5-6 years ago. He now uses the crease to accentuate the angle because he's looking to swing the ball from his hand.
 
Yk313 said:
Despite its efficacy, the one thing I would want to change about Southee is the release point of his stock delivery.

Not sure if he normally likes to bowl it wide of the crease but looks like he wants unnecessarily accentuate the angle. The same delivery from closer to the stumps may cause more uncertainty and bring sharper gains from his indipper.
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He varies it to make the batsman play the outswinger.
 
Last Monetarist said:
He naturally used to bowl from wide of the crease, however, he made a conscious effort to get closer to the stumps about 5-6 years ago. He now uses the crease to accentuate the angle because he's looking to swing the ball from his hand.
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Yes, sounds reasonable. Have not followed much cricket this side of 2010 (in fairness, this side of 2000) to know of the evolution of most of these players.

In conditions like in the 1st innings when it was swinging quite a lot, I would have preferred for him to bowl from much closer to the stumps with only the variation coming from wide of the crease.
 
JibranAnsari said:
India gave 40 runs too many , may well be deciding factor in the end.
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Agree with this. At 5/135, we should have blasted Kiwis for 160-170 for us to have any chance. But for that to happen, Bumrah should have been firing on all cylinders, which was not to be.
 
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