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India reach 69/0 at Stumps on Day 2 with a lead of 322 after bowling out New Zealand for 62

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Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Doesn't mean it can't get better. What was Kohli's record in England few years ago? Even Pant has a terrible record in NZ and West Indies. :inti
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How many series were Williamson Play in india untill now. that was virat first tour to England and after that we know how he performed in England.
 
Jamieson who was called all conditions bowler on the basis of first innings of this series, has gone very quiet since then.
 
Umesh, unlucky that ball was too good, just the bounce that saved mitchell,,...cmon more of this stuff
 
Siraj showing that although he is a very good bowler in all conditions,he is magnificent in India too and it is not just about pacers.
 
Devadwal said:
How many series were Williamson Play in india untill now. that was virat first tour to England and after that we know how he performed in England.
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Kohli gets to play 5 tests in England every time whereas NZ players mostly play 2 test matches in India. How are you expecting them to improve? Same goes for some indian players who are dropped after 2-3 outings but some non performers like Rahane and Pujara keep getting chances abroad. :inti
 
Ross taylor looks like he has'nt turned down too many invitations for second helpings of pie and puddings....and even as i type, siraj gets him....wow
 
Taylor is so awful.

It was only a matter of getting Siraj in the team, you get Latham because of his weakness vs pace and rest can barely score vs spinners or even against a genuine high quality pacer like Siraj.
 
Why is Ross Taylor playing cricket? All his contemporaries from other countries have retired, what is he on to now?

On merit, I think New Zealand should go with Will Young at 4 and Conway back as opener.
 
Imagine a bowling attack of Bumrah, Siraj, Umesh and Shami on a juicy Wanderers wicket in 2 weeks time!! :)

I really hope Kohli makes it happen.
 
Siraj always surprises me. Usually pacers would try to have their seam dead straight like seam bowlers do (Shami, etc.) or try to have it at an angle for outswing or inswing (Anderson et al).

Siraj often bowls with a scrambled seam with the new ball and makes it go haywire moving it off the seam and the pitch. Not sure I remember too many pacers who bowl with a scrambled seam with the new ball. Broad sometimes scrambles it and uses it very well for the inducker, but not as much as Siraj does. Cummins does it too, but he is largely an outswing bowler.
 
Can't remember the last time India lost a test series at home since 2012. Beastly stuff
 
Hopefully, NZ puts some runs here. They have only batted one time well in series so far. The last test was gone due to poor batting the second time and the draw was due to bad light taking away overs each day.
 
[MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION] this is where your lame hypocrisy comes to shine.

When India won first series in Aus you discredited it because of Smith And Warner missing.

When Indians won second time, which no Asian team done even once and only Great Windies side/England/SA side has achieved, then you discredited it because Australia are not as great as they used to be, Despite Australia playing at home with Smith/Lyon/Hazlewood/Cummins and Labuschangne who scored double centuries for fun against Pak and NZ previously and India missing half their side by Gabba test.

Now, when India drew first test match you again are not counting so many Indian players missing.

When India were leading 2-1 in England, Test Cricket team of England is not of old standard and not so good.

Now NZ is struggling in current match you are already trying to discredit that by saying NZ is missing Williamson and doing mental gymnastics.

Give it a rest now.
[MENTION=139595]Ab Fan[/MENTION] @Romali Rotti
 
street cricketer said:
Siraj always surprises me. Usually pacers would try to have their seam dead straight like seam bowlers do (Shami, etc.) or try to have it at an angle for outswing or inswing (Anderson et al).

Siraj often bowls with a scrambled seam with the new ball and makes it go haywire moving it off the seam and the pitch. Not sure I remember too many pacers who bowl with a scrambled seam with the new ball. Broad sometimes scrambles it and uses it very well for the inducker, but not as much as Siraj does. Cummins does it too, but he is largely an outswing bowler.
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Actually, it's a lot more common than you think. Abbas, Hasan Ali, Woakes, Jimmy and many more use the wobble seam to good effect. Pollock used to do that a lot and I think even Walsh used to.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Actually, it's a lot more common than you think. Abbas, Hasan Ali, Woakes, Jimmy and many more use the wobble seam to good effect. Pollock used to do that a lot and I think even Walsh used to.
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Wobble seam is different though, Asif was a specialist in it. It just wobbles along the seam whereas in a scrambled seam delivery, there is no identifiable seam and it's just scrambled.
 
NZ batting has been really pathetic so far here.
 
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street cricketer said:
Wobble seam is different though, Asif was a specialist in it. It just wobbles along the seam whereas in a scrambled seam delivery, there is no identifiable seam and it's just scrambled.
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Not specifically talking about wobble/scrambled . Just saying that there a lot of bowlers do not prefer a dead straight seam . I personally dont think the position of the seam matters as much overall. There are advantages and disadvantages to both. Even someone like McGrath who generally preferred the straight seam would bowl with a slightly wobbled seam to left handers etc .
 
Jayant gets our tormentor of last test, Ravindra.
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
[MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION] this is where your lame hypocrisy comes to shine.

When India won first series in Aus you discredited it because of Smith And Warner missing.

When Indians won second time, which no Asian team done even once and only Great Windies side/England/SA side has achieved, then you discredited it because Australia are not as great as they used to be, Despite Australia playing at home with Smith/Lyon/Hazlewood/Cummins and Labuschangne who scored double centuries for fun against Pak and NZ previously and India missing half their side by Gabba test.

Now, when India drew first test match you again are not counting so many Indian players missing.

When India were leading 2-1 in England, Test Cricket team of England is not of old standard and not so good.

Now NZ is struggling in current match you are already trying to discredit that by saying NZ is missing Williamson and doing mental gymnastics.

Give it a rest now.
[MENTION=139595]Ab Fan[/MENTION] @Romali Rotti
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The only hypocrites are those who didn't take my opinion seriously and made fun of me during Aus series but now are saying the same thing which I said. How does the medicine taste now?

And what's up with tagging other users lol. Are you looking for a backup here? :inti
 
If Kohli was there in last match we would have taken all 10 wickets. He brings a different energy to the bowling unit.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
The only hypocrites are those who didn't take my opinion seriously and made fun of me during Aus series but now are saying the same thing which I said. How does the medicine taste now?

And what's up with tagging other users lol. Are you looking for a backup here? :inti
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No just calling out your double standards.
 
It's impossible to win a test in india bowling first.
Haven't seen such a dominant home side
 
BCCI should do something with its commentary panel for home production. With so much money I am sure they can afford some decent speakers.

Deep Dasgupta, Murali Karthik, LSK and Ajit Agarkar are atrocious and one of the worst. On top of that there is Gavaskar too :facepalm:
 
Buffet said:
Looks good for both. Surprised that NZ pacers went wicketless.
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They took 14 wickets on a pitch with low bounce, but suddenly looked toothless on a more seam friendly pitch.

Doesn't look like they will get a chance to bowl again
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
No just calling out your double standards.
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You should call out yours and others double standards. You didn't accept my opinion back then so on what basis you are calling me out for double standards now lol? Or may be now you agree with my opinion about Aus series? Make up your mind. And FYI I already called this India B vs NZ C in one of the match threads which you conveniently ignored and are not talking about. :inti
 
Batting looks undercooked and we're going to get rolled for a pathetic total here.

Idiotic to play a Test series in alien conditions without any practice. Only really did decent in the first game because the wicket was good and didn't detoriate much.

Feel for Taylor who hasn't played much cricket having to come into the team with little cricket and expected to score some runs in India. Was always going to end poorly for him.
 
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Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
You should call out yours and others double standards. You didn't accept my opinion back then so on what basis you are calling me out for double standards now lol? Or may be now you agree with my opinion about Aus series? Make up your mind. And FYI I already called this India B vs NZ C in one of the match threads which you conveniently ignored and are not talking about. :inti
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Nah mate keep sooking.
 
Surprised by NZ batting. They are better then this as they had shown in UAE and in Kanpur test.
There is bit of bounce and turn which is expected but hats off to Siraj.
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
Surprised by NZ batting. They are better then this as they had shown in UAE and in Kanpur test.
There is bit of bounce and turn which is expected but hats off to Siraj.
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Batting is pretty undercooked and India have bowled really well.

It was dumb of NZC to play 2 Tests only having 3 T20 games as warm up matches, most of which the batsmen didn't even play.

First Test is an anomaly as the pitch didn't really do much.
 
Rajdeep said:
BCCI should do something with its commentary panel for home production. With so much money I am sure they can afford some decent speakers.

Deep Dasgupta, Murali Karthik, LSK and Ajit Agarkar are atrocious and one of the worst. On top of that there is Gavaskar too :facepalm:
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You have missed the trick mate. Most of us in Mumbai just watch the game with the mute button on :110:
 
300 on this pitch is good enough to win by an innings.

We did not bowl well, hence one bowler was able to pick up all the wickets.
 
So Kohli will end 2021 with a duck? I dont think India will get a chance to bat again in this game.
 
Gee whiz, am blown away by how well our quicks have bowled.

Siraj is beast and bowled like a dream.

But Umesh was fab as well, pitched it up, got late swing at pace and on another day could have 3 - 4.
no wickets for him donot reflect how well he bowled.
Go Indiaaa!!!
 
Aman said:
Batting is pretty undercooked and India have bowled really well.

It was dumb of NZC to play 2 Tests only having 3 T20 games as warm up matches, most of which the batsmen didn't even play.

First Test is an anomaly as the pitch didn't really do much.
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Difficult to organize first class games with COVID bubbles etc these days. But yeah they could have requested a 3-4 day match against domestic players. Some decent Indian spinners would have bowled against them to practice.
 
Why cant batsmen play on backfoot in Indian pitches against spin? That will enable them to play the ball after it had spun. Going in front foot everytime meaning you are commiting yourself.

Any batting expert here agree with me?
 
Well on this pitch ball is turning and bouncing now. India should try to bat again tonight and put a score beyond NZ reach and then go for kill.
 
Rajdeep said:
Why cant batsmen play on backfoot in Indian pitches against spin? That will enable them to play the ball after it had spun. Going in front foot everytime meaning you are commiting yourself.

Any batting expert here agree with me?
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Cricket is all about repetition. The guys in NZ are not used to this as they play seamers mostly and hardly ball spins on NZ pitches. You need to practice and practice a lot. Hence, we always talk about home advantage. Cricket is a unique sport that way.
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
lol. If you keep sooking where is the argument. I know you are really happy whenever India does not do well. It is pretty clear from your posting history. Why pretend and be a hypocrite then?
Embrace it.
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I told you yesterday that you can assume anything you want. All your opinions about me revolve around silly assumptions lol. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
The only hypocrites are those who didn't take my opinion seriously and made fun of me during Aus series but now are saying the same thing which I said. How does the medicine taste now?

And what's up with tagging other users lol. Are you looking for a backup here? :inti
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Did you take your own opinion seriously? Coz you are arguing the exact opposite here.
Ind winning in aus 18 was tainted but nz measly draw vs India missing six first choice player isn't?
Anyways nobody takes your opinion seriously.
 
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Should India bat again? I think they should. Maybe send Kohli to open since Gill is injured...lol
 
Embarrassing from New Zealand. They don't deserve the no.1 test ranking.
 
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