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India v Australia | 1st Test - Day 2| Bangalore | 9/10/08

Random Aussie said:
Lee is no hack with the bat, he is very handy.

More than handy. Pretty decent for a number 9, good enough to bat at 7 (if he had to anyway), in my opinion!!
 
ganguly actually has done a blunder by announcing retirement. Kumble, Sachin, Dravid and Laxman will be under huge pressure...ha ha
 
Sheikh said:
Really? When? Why? Got any background info?


Description from a website:

A fast bowler broke down yet again in public – this time at Sydney in 1975. Michael Holding, playing just his third Test, saw the umpire Reg Ledwidge turned down a caught behind shout off his bowling against Ian Chappell. The young Jamaican could not contain his disappointment and burst into inconsolable tears and had to be comforted by Lance Gibbs who rushed in from gully.

It is a pretty famous story so should be info around.
 
Random Aussie said:
Good for Aus that the seamers have taken all the wickets
But then again, i think india batsmen are better than the batsmen who got dismissed by seamers, just look at it:

- Hayden: wrongly given out
- Katich: not a very good batsmen by AUS standards, but still managed to get a good score before getting out
- Ponting: dismissed by Bhajji
- Hussy: still at the crease..
- Clarke: good batsmen, and got dismissed by good bowling
- Watson/Haddin/White: they may have played FC cricket, but still newbies

No discredit to the bowlers, especially Sharma bowled well, but if u look into it, the seamers might not have that much advantage on this pitch

Still looking forward to Lee/Johnson/Clarke ofcourse :)
 
lollol said:
But then again, i think india batsmen are better than the batsmen who got dismissed by seamers, just look at it:

- Hayden: wrongly given out
- Katich: not a very good batsmen by AUS standards, but still managed to get a good score before getting out
- Ponting: dismissed by Bhajji
- Hussy: still at the crease..
- Clarke: good batsmen, and got dismissed by good bowling
- Watson/Haddin/White: they may have played FC cricket, but still newbies

No discredit to the bowlers, especially Sharma bowled well, but if u look into it, the seamers might not have that much advantage on this pitch

Still looking forward to Lee/Johnson/Clarke ofcourse :)

True but it is still encouraging that India's 2 seamers who average more than 33 runs per wicket at Test level have taken 6 wickets out of 7 to fall.
Just quietly our seam attack is slightly better than theirs.
 
Random Aussie said:
Description from a website:

A fast bowler broke down yet again in public – this time at Sydney in 1975. Michael Holding, playing just his third Test, saw the umpire Reg Ledwidge turned down a caught behind shout off his bowling against Ian Chappell. The young Jamaican could not contain his disappointment and burst into inconsolable tears and had to be comforted by Lance Gibbs who rushed in from gully.

It is a pretty famous story so should be info around.
Thanks for that. Hilarious stuff. Suppose if it had to be one West Indian, it would be Holding. The likes of Greenidge, Richards, Lloyd, Marshall etc have probably never cried in their lives, let alone on a cricket field.
 
Mark Nicholas you are an utter moron.

"One thing he can work on (Hussey) is using his feet to get to the pitch of the spinners"

Mark you dimwit he averages 72 in Test cricket, I think he knows how to bat.
 
416/7 tea. another session, another session won by aussie.
 
This is looking towards a draw...

Unless the AUS pacers can do some good on this pitch :)
 
Aussie to bat until about 1 hour before close? Put indians in and throw everything (except umpires!!) at them in an hour of hostile bowling? The perfect scenario for aussie? India 2/3 down by close of play trailing by more than 400 going into day 3?
 
Keith said:
Aussie to bat until about 1 hour before close? Put indians in and throw everything (except umpires!!) at them in an hour of hostile bowling? The perfect scenario for aussie? India 2/3 down by close of play trailing by more than 400 going into day 3?
With 35 overs to go they have two options:

1) Bat for about 20-25 overs, get to 500, declare and give themselves 10-15 overs at the Indians today.

2) Bat on and on into tomorrow until they're dismissed with the aim of having little batting to do in the second innings.


Personally I don't see them declaring today. I think it's more likely that they'll be all out for about 480 odd.
 
Random Aussie said:
Doubt it, we will just keep batting until we are all out.

Yep, that last wicket changed the scenario somewhat.
 
Hussey gets his highest score against india, well done mate!!
 
429/9. I see another 4 wickets before the end of the day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
beautiful ball by Zaheer, Johnson gone. that delivery was something man
 
Time for Hussey to open up and get some quick runs if clark can stick around.
 
And in the end ZAK gets 5 wkts....

When looking at the stats, one would think he bowled very well...
 
430/10. And now the fun really begins. Well played hussey and well bowled khan. Pacers did all the damage. I think the aussie attack is better equipped, but let us see!!!
 
Wow Zaheer, Where were you earlier. Hussey gone

Australia 430 all out

Hussey has been a savior for Australia.
 
Random Aussie said:
Cricindia being biased as all hell again
Indeed, it really begins to annoy me....

Jamie Alter is the culprit i think....
 
Not sure what Zaheer Khan thinks he is doing yelling and getting in the faces of MJ and Brett Lee. Why would India want to have our 2 quickest bowlers fired up and angry?

Cult of the individual prevailing again.

Very happy with 430 with Hayden getting nothing and the 2 newbies failing.
 
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149.5 Khan to Hussey, OUT, Zak has done it again. A bit wider this time, swinging in again, with the shine, Hussey goes for a drive, but gets an inside edge onto middle stump. What an innings, though. His best score against India, and all through the innings he has never looked like getting out
MEK Hussey b Khan 146 (276b 15x4 1x6) SR: 52.89
 
Oh man, i will have to miss this last session....

Hope for some fireworks when im back :)
 
430 is probably a par score in these conditions.

Aussies need to get Sehwag out early as this will means runs wont come as quickly then for the indians.
 
Now lets see what sort of Treatment Shewag will get on the field by the Aussies, Remember he labeled them as "Cheats".
 
Caved12 said:
Wow Zaheer, Where were you earlier. Hussey gone

Australia 430 all out

Hussey has been a savior for Australia.

There has been 2 centurions in this innings (and bioth great knocks) but i feel that the innings that kattich played was very vital for the aussies, considering what happened in that well umpired 1st over on day 1!!!!!
 
Keith said:
Did you really expect anything else? :)

The commentary is far more biased in this game than I have ever seen and I have been following cricket on Cricinfo basically since the site started.
 
Amjid Javed said:
430 is probably a par score in these conditions.

Aussies need to get Sehwag out early as this will means runs wont come as quickly then for the indians.

I would say it is a good score for us first up in India.

The conditions are very foreign to the Aus batsmen.

But all depends how India bat
 
Well done Zaheer for picking up 5 wickets.. now over to Aussies bowlers to see what they can do.
 
Afridi_Fan said:
Now lets see what sort of Treatment Shewag will get on the field by the Aussies, Remember he labeled them as "Cheats".

I think the odd word might be said to him :batman:
 
RA,

I expect pitch to maybe break up and Team scores to get lower so a lead for Aussies on 1st inns after india bat would be ideal!
 
Random Aussie said:
The commentary is far more biased in this game than I have ever seen and I have been following cricket on Cricinfo basically since the site started.

Let me rephrase that last comment of mine: Are you surprised NOW after "recent events" at cricinfo?
:batman:
 
Would be great to see Sehwag get out off a dodgy Catch haha!
 
Really cant miss this last 1.5 hour, will have to see it.

Lets hope on something special :Sami
 
Amjid Javed said:
RA,

I expect pitch to maybe break up and Team scores to get lower so a lead for Aussies on 1st inns after india bat would be ideal!

Yeah the pitch will deteriorate I agree. And their spinners will be much more effective on a 3rd/4th day pitch.

At this stage I think we will either win or draw unless India play really well in the first innings.

I don't think they will get to 400, based on how India tend to perform when under pressure.
 
Just saw the Khan wickets on replay, he will (or should be) fined for that.

If Shoaib can lose 40% of match fee for pointing at the dressing room, Zaheer should be a little lighter in the pocket too.
 
Keith said:
There has been 2 centurions in this innings (and bioth great knocks) but i feel that the innings that kattich played was very vital for the aussies, considering what happened in that well umpired 1st over on day 1!!!!!

Spot on Keith.
 
Random Aussie said:
Just saw the Khan wickets on replay, he will (or should be) fined for that.

If Shoaib can lose 40% of match fee for pointing at the dressing room, Zaheer should be a little lighter in the pocket too.

There are many worse things in cricket than a bloody send off!! Cannot quite understand why they frown on it so much?

But yeah, consistency in punishment should be prevelant!
 
Keith said:
There are many worse things in cricket than a bloody send off!! Cannot quite understand why they frown on it so much?

But yeah, consistency in punishment should be prevelant!

I don't really care for it to be honest. It is unsporting to be jeering in your opponents face after you dismiss them, they are already out, you have already won the battle.

But hey, they play the game in the "right spirit" :batman:
 
A very miscalculated dive by Johnson, he should have stopped that boundary.
 
My feed just went!!! What the heck is going on??????????
 
chacha almost run-out... very good fielding from Clarke!
 

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inzidabest said:
OUT wasnt it?
Gambhir uses his bat to indicate the inside edge. Asad Rauf doesn't like it.

It might have also pitched outside leg
 
Havent been impressed by Lee so far. I think this is the first time i have seen him play on a lifeless subcontinent pitch and his pace is down. He isnt getting much bounce either. The tactics he adopts in Australia will not work in India. He has to crank it up to 150-155 km/hr like Akhtar does.

This is not good for Lee. My observation about him throughout his career is that he is at his fastest in his first opening spell but slows down later on. He cannot afford to do that in India, reverse swing will be crucial here and pace is vital.
 
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Savak said:
Havent been impressed by Lee so far. I think this is the first time i have seen him play on a lifeless subcontinent pitch and his pace is down. He isnt getting much bounce either. The tactics he adopts in Australia will not work in India. He has to crank it up to 150-155 km/hr like Akhtar does.

This is not good for Lee. My observation about him throughout his career is that he is at his fastest in his first opening spell but slows down later on. He cannot afford to do that in India, reverse swing will be crucial here and pace is vital.

Lee is not that quick anymore.

No point trying to bowl too fast and missing 3 games for every 1 you play :akhtar
 
Random Aussie said:
He was getting up to 144 but kept spraying it.

Yeah, but that was only 3 or 4 deliveries, Lee should be bowling at a consistent 145 km/h. I noticed too that he slowed down because he was not getting the line right.
 
Hi Savak, What do you think? Is Akhtar gonna be able to bowl 150+ tomorrow?
 
Caved12 said:
Yeah, but that was only 3 or 4 deliveries, Lee should be bowling at a consistent 145 km/h. I noticed too that he slowed down because he was not getting the line right.

The improvement in Brett Lee over the past year has been because he has cut down his pace. Not very Pakistani I know :D

But the old Brett Lee who bowled 150kph rubbish is hopefully gone forever.
 
Random Aussie said:
Lee is not that quick anymore.

No point trying to bowl too fast and missing 3 games for every 1 you play :akhtar

I dont agree with that. Lee is still quick. I see him hit 155 km/hr in conditions that suit him for e.g. Australia. He cranks it up there especially with the new ball. But i have noticed this with Lee, in unfavorable conditions he cuts down his pace. He prefers to bowl with in himself. Yes sometimes it could work but sometimes it wont and it wont work in India.
Lee has a more resilient body than Akhtar's and i am sure can play on and on in comparison to Akhtar. But the excuse of avoiding injury for not bowling fast is not good.
 
Aus did spend time in middle but didn't scored runs quick enough which can cost the game here if 1-2 Indian batsmen can score big
 
Random Aussie said:
The improvement in Brett Lee over the past year has been because he has cut down his pace. Not very Pakistani I know :D

But the old Brett Lee who bowled 150kph rubbish is hopefully gone forever.
I agree u dont need to bowl 150k, but as i predicted, it SEEMS he isnt getting anything from the wkts here... i dont think he can be threatening on these tracks right now, although i hope to be proved wrong in this series :)

btw @ C. White, just heard one of the commentators say that he bowled only 80 overs in the last season takin only 8 wkts?????
 
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