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India v Australia 1st Test Day 5, Bangalore 13/10/08

Momo said:
^^However all these maidens and one run overs wont help. In fairness though, Tends just came in. I hope he gets a hundred and wins this for India today (I think he will). All it takes is one ton and two half-centuries.

I wonder if you have seen 4th innings of any test cricket match. One run overs and maiden overs are pretty common. specially if a team is 2 wickets down and staring at a loss :mush
 
Momo said:
Yes, they are making it difficult for themselves by batting so slow. But the problem is that if you don't attck, you tend to be defensive (no middle way), and that is what is dangerous.

dude. u need to check out....4th innings batting is always slow...rarely would you find teams going at an healthy :imran average
 
Tendya will play cautiously and then get one of those 'extra ordinary deliveries' that leaves him with a bewildered look before starting on his way back.
 
inzidabest said:
I wonder if you have seen 4th innings of any test cricket match. One run overs and maiden overs are pretty common. specially if a team is 2 wickets down and staring at a loss :mush
:) I have seen a few, believe me. I believe most of it is psychological though. Teams (and batsmen) tend to presuppose the dangers. India shouldn't have lost all those matches on the last day in the past two years. And the reason they did was they weren't positive enough.

My message to Tends and the rest will be: Don't go into your shells. When the bowlers aren't punished for even their bad deliveries, that's when teams lose Tests (in their minds first).
 
Momo said:
^^However all these maidens and one run overs wont help. In fairness though, Tends just came in. I hope he gets a hundred and wins this for India today (I think he will). All it takes is one ton and two half-centuries.

But Navjot SIdhu said cracks are wide enough that he can even drive his car through those
 
wanted_desi said:
But Navjot SIdhu said cracks are wide enough that he can even drive his car through those
The problem with Navjot is that he comes all prepared with a few 'funny' lines memorized. He just has got to use them irrespective of whether the situation warrants that or not. I have done a bit of public speaking in my time, and it is always best to not use some 'material' depending upon the circumstances.
 
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Momo said:
:) I have seen a few, believe me. I believe most of it is psychological though. Teams (and batsmen) tend to presuppose the dangers. India shouldn't have lost all those matches on the last day in the past two years. And the reason they did was they weren't positive enough.

My message to Tends and the rest will be: Don't go into your shells. When the bowlers aren't punished for even their bad deliveries, that's when teams lose Tests (in their minds first).

dude, you are saying 260 runs in 67 overs..thats difficult even in the first innings...how do you think a team will get this rate in the 4th innings..I fail to understand you.
 
^^ Well if Tendulkar gets a hundred, it will be achieved.

Look at it this way: Teams easily score 260 in 50 overs in ODIs. Aussies have no spinners to utilize the worn out pitch to the fullest. India has some explosive batters.

I think it can be done.
 
Yes, Aussies will be negative once they get scared. But if India don't win it for that reason, that will be good for them in future matches (Aussies will know they got away with a draw).
 
Momo said:
^^ Well if Tendulkar gets a hundred, it will be achieved.

Look at it this way: Teams easily score 260 in 50 overs in ODIs. Aussies have no spinners to utilize the worn out pitch to the fullest. India has some explosive batters.

I think it can be done.

:yk ODI and tests are different. Flat pitches, white ball. wide balls.
Indian victory not at all possible, even if anyone gets a hundred..It has to be a miracle. You are mkaing it sound as if players all these years have been fools not to score this easily in the 4th innings. lol. ciao. m off for lunch.
 
inzidabest said:
dude, you are saying 260 runs in 67 overs..thats difficult even in the first innings...how do you think a team will get this rate in the 4th innings..I fail to understand you.
Fifth days are difficult in India mainly because of spinners. I think pace bowlers can be handled on the fifth day. All India need to do is to keep the mental and psychological demons away from their minds.
 
Momo said:
^^ Well if Tendulkar gets a hundred, it will be achieved.

Look at it this way: Teams easily score 260 in 50 overs in ODIs. Aussies have no spinners to utilize the worn out pitch to the fullest. India has some explosive batters.

I think it can be done.

I think you are right, if Tendulkar is holding one end, he can score easily with his class.
 
Momo said:
Yes, Aussies will be negative once they get scared. But if India don't win it for that reason, that will be good for them in future matches (Aussies will know they got away with a draw).

exactly..so how will India win?? :Evil
The bowling teams plays the cards in the 4th innings. :moyo
 
^^Yes if Ponting decides to be negative, India may not win. But let's not not win for any other reason.
 
Momo said:
Fifth days are difficult in India mainly because of spinners. I think pace bowlers can be handled on the fifth day. All India need to do is to keep the mental and psychological demons away from their minds.

LOL
England, South Africa and Australia have all won by pacers in India.
I dont rate Shaun UDal any great spinner..Rough patches helps the pacers as well. Second this pitch has been more condusive to pace. Check the scorecard. Dude, u seriously need to check some test cricket scorecards. and might wanna :poodle try a hand at it also.
 
Whats Lee's and Johnson's fastest deliveries in this session?
 
inzidabest said:
LOL
England, South Africa and Australia have all won by pacers in India.
I dont rate Shaun UDal any great spinner..Rough patches helps the pacers as well. Second this pitch has been more condusive to pace. Check the scorecard. Dude, u seriously need to check some test cricket scorecards. and might wanna :poodle try a hand at it also.
I understand. But they did it because of weak Indian batting mindset (which I hope won't happen today), not because of pitches. Kumble wins matches on fifth day because of the pitch.
 
Milroastnescafe said:
Come on' Tendulkar, Choke! Choke! Choke! Give in to what comes natural to you.
That's not possible since Warne have retired. Bring him back from retirement and maybe once again we'll see the natural thing which have happened whenever both of them have clashed :))
 
THing is that he is looking good today, but he always look good before one ball comes and he gets inside edge or so
 
Apart from Bhajji and Zaheer (laughs) and Tendulkar of course, Dhoni will be the key. If he can bat anywhere near as well as he does in ODIs, Aussies are in for a scare today.
 
Momo said:
Apart from Bhajji and Zaheer (laughs) and Tendulkar of course, Dhoni will be the key. If he can bat anywhere near as well as he does in ODIs, Aussies are in for a scare today.

:)) :))
 
wanted_desi said:
You never know :batman:

True that. And yeah if it was an ODI.

But has never before been a threat at Test level to us.

We would be more worried about the players who average 50 against us at Test level (and bloody Harbajan)
 
Dhoni if plays his natural game , he will be fine .....looks a little confused in the longer version of the game !
 
Our new spearhead MJ starts at 89mph

4th ball 89 mph

Oh no Krapich is in the catching position at short point :(
 
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Random Aussie said:
Yaar but he aint no Gilly
You Aussies are a spoilt lot. Get this thing once for all:
There will be no Gilly, Warne, and McGrath ever again. And I mean ever.
 
Momo said:
You Aussies are a spoilt lot. Get this thing once for all:
There will be no Gilly, Warne, and McGrath ever again. And I mean ever.

Yes we are spoilt :D

Give us a couple of years, we'll have some new guns.

But in reference to Dhoni, before the last tour there was a lot of hype about his batting and comparisons to Gilchrist. So we were looking forward to seeing the bloke bat and were sadly disappointed.

Mj hits 91.7mph and beats Tendu
 
I will be happy if Dhoni avgs around 40 ,which is more than enuf for a WK ....only in ODI's its fair to compare Gilly & Dhoni !
 
Yes 40 will be max. I mean he will be captain soon and wking and captaining and then batting in Tests is a tough ask. So 40 will be the reasonable upper limit, I guess.
 
MJ 92mph

And again 92mph to end the over

Wow he looks like a totally different bowler now
 
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how many runs left for Sachin to break record? got feeling, he ll get out after breaking the record
 
Even 140 can be scored easly in the last session. If they keep going like this (a little more aggressively actually), the frequency of Ponting's tours to the loo will increase at an exponential rate pretty soon.
 
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Random Aussie said:
MJ 92mph

And again 92mph to end the over

Wow he looks like a totally different bowler now

I mean if Johnson can do it with i find it actually pathetic and inexcusable for Lee to be taking shortcuts instead of charging in, putting his body at risk and touching the 95-96 mph he is capable of. He must be living in cuckoo land to think he is going to trouble the Indians with his Australian pitch tactics.
 
Gambhir gone, but Tendulkar is there so nothing to worry about. I say India still have their noses in front -- by a touch now mind you.
 
Milroastnescafe said:
Still need Tendulkar. Get him out and I will at least be comfortable in that we won't lose this game.
India is not even trying and you still need assurance :D? the playing with an SR of 1.5. But ya you are right. If tendukar survives for 2 hours, he will go for a win.
 
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bones20 said:
India is not even trying and you still need assurance :D? the playing with an SR of 1.5.
That RR is disturbing though. They might lose if they play for a draw. So even for a draw, they need to be positive.

RR is not that bad, but still they need to raise it by .5, and they will win.
 
Laxman looks majestic when he drives on the off side. He seems capcable of driving on any length. How he didnt play one dayers, I will never know.
 
Required run rate close to 4.00. If these two hang in for another hour, Australia cannot afford to attack further.
 
Momo said:
That RR is disturbing though. They might lose if they play for a draw. So even for a draw, they need to be positive.

RR is not that bad, but still they need to raise it by .5, and they will win.
:yk :))) :younis :asif :aiqbal :miandad
dude you need to read your posts again. India are way behind. Australia are ruling at the moment and are more likely to win. India miniscule chance of winning
 
I think the probablities are like this:
India winning: 0.6
Aus winning: 0.1
Draw: 0.3
 
inzidabest said:
:yk :))) :younis :asif :aiqbal :miandad
dude you need to read your posts again. India are way behind. Australia are ruling at the moment and are more likely to win. India miniscule chance of winning
Momo is hallucinating like his profile pic :D
 
The way gambhir got out second time on a good length delivery was pathetic. If he played in the era of 2 Ws he would be their fodder. Come on dude, when the ball is pitched up, you play forward!
 
bones20 said:
The way gambhir got out second time on a good length delivery was pathetic. If he played in the era of 2 Ws he would be their fodder. Come on dude, when the ball is pitched up, you play forward!
Gambhir's biggest weakness is what you have described. In Sri Lanka too, Vaas got him exactly like that. And I guess another bowler did too later. Gambhir will have to correct this weakness pretty soon.
 
Momo said:
:)))A good one bones. And notice what my avatar man is holding. :)
cant figure what he is holding, is it cigarette? BTW, who is this man in the picture? looks like the late Indian music composer R. D. Burman.
 
bones20 said:
cant figure what he is holding, is it cigarette? BTW, who is this man in the picture? looks like the late Indian music composer R. D. Burman.
You are right on both counts. It's a cigarette (bhara hua I guess), and it is R D Burman, the greatest music man ever.
 
Damn Mark Nicholas is back

"Such a difficult surface"

At least he is not with Sunny anymore. Sunny probably said "Who is this English **** kisser? Get him away from me"
 
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Momo said:
You are right on both counts. It's a cigarette (bhara hua I guess), and it is R D Burman, the greatest music man ever.
Yeah, good humable melodies for all moods. How about A. R. Rahman? Not so humable melodies but comprehensive potpouri of Indian classical, western classical and technology.

He is the Sachin Tendulkar of music and I worship them both.
 
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bones20 said:
Yeah, good humable melodies for all moods. How about A. R. Rahman? Not so humable melodies but comprehensive potpouri of Indian classical, western classical and technology.

He is the Sachin Tendulkar of music and I worship them both.

No good in the fourth movement?
 
bones20 said:
Yeah, good humable melodies for all moods. How about A. R. Rahman? Not so humable melodies but comprehensive potpouri of Indian classical, western classical and technology.

He is the Sachin Tendulkar of music and I worship them both.
A. R. Rehman is also very very good, but he is #3 on my list (of course the best of the post 1990 era by some way).
 
bones20 said:
who is #2? Nusrat?
No. Nusrat belongs to the other genre, along with the likes of Ghulam Ali and Jagjit Singh (love them all).

My #2 in the romantic (filmy type 5 minute pieces) category are actually three (can't separate them in any way):

#2: S. D. Burman
#2: Shankar-Jaikishan
#2: Khwaja Khursheed Anwar
 
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