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India v Australia 2nd Test, Day 5, Mohali 21/10/08

rahulrulezz said:
btw... Congratzzzzzzz INDIA!!!!! Yesss 1 - 0 !!!!!!!!!

Caved- Milroastnescafe is just a sour cookie coz B.Lee has always butchered S.African team :D :D

Hey Rahul, Nothing against any member here and I respect their opinions, but it is just unbelievable how some fans change their views after one game or just one series. Rahul, Congrats on annihilating Australia in this test match. Hopefully India will go on to win this series.
 
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Milroastnescafe said:
He doesn't have a very good reputation amongst serious Australian cricket fans. So it's not a case of knocking the guy when he's down, but I think alot of us expected this coming.

This, even though coming from a Saffer supporter now :D, is absolutely correct.
 
bones20 said:
we did fear Mcgrath, because he was one PITA and SOB who would **** the hell out of our batsman. Very annoying with his extra bounce and consistent line and length. We really never had any answer to him.

No team ever had an answer for McGrath, hence why he is rated the way he is.
 
Random Aussie said:
No team ever had an answer for McGrath, hence why he is rated the way he is.
And the annoying thing is that he never did anything extra ordinary, just did the basics consistently. His only special trait was bounce and that did it for him.
 
Caved12 said:
Lee must be missing him big time. :)

Our team is missing him big time but that's the way it goes.

Need a new McGrath now. And a few more.

In some ways the loss of Warne/McGrath has taken a while to affect because there were no winter Tests last year with the WC, Brett Lee bowled out of his skin against SL/India in the summer (and India assisted with some strange selection decisions) and the West Indies are pretty weak.
 
Random Aussie said:
Our team is missing him big time but that's the way it goes.

Need a new McGrath now. And a few more.

In some ways the loss of Warne/McGrath has taken a while to affect because there were no winter Tests last year with the WC, Brett Lee bowled out of his skin against SL/India in the summer (and India assisted with some strange selection decisions) and the West Indies are pretty weak.

Lee has shown that he is only human. Being the sole dependable bowler takes its toll. He doesnt have the skills and abilities to be successful in the subcontinent.

Stuart Clarke is no Mcgrath, Johnson is raw but not accurate, Siddle is a good find but is still raw.

I stick to my views that the Australians will be difficult to beat at home but will struggle now in foreign conditions. Warne, Mcgrath, Gilchrist, Langer, Gillespie, Kasprowicz. Gosh i mean people must have been delluded if they felt they can replace such players easily.

Those players gave the Australians the cutting edge. Now Australia is no different from South Africa. Its going to be fun playing them now, Hehehehehehe.
 
Random Aussie said:
Well actually MJ is superior to ZAK on career stats Romali

Everybody loves stats when they show Sachin has done this and averaged this here etc and they are proof eh? Not proof of course if they say something you don't like.

What it shows is ZAK has been wasting his talent for the majority of his career. Or maybe like Brett Lee he has become decent at the end of his career after spending much of it bowling pies.


Zaheer's been injured most of his career to throw pies..Stat comparison is fair when a player has played a fair amount of matches, Johnson hasnt so cant be compared with Zaheer..
 
Romali_rotti said:
Zaheer's been injured most of his career to throw pies..Stat comparison is fair when a player has played a fair amount of matches, Johnson hasnt so cant be compared with Zaheer..

You say injured someone could say not fit enough.
 
Savak said:
Lee has shown that he is only human. Being the sole dependable bowler takes its toll. He doesnt have the skills and abilities to be successful in the subcontinent.

Stuart Clarke is no Mcgrath, Johnson is raw but not accurate, Siddle is a good find but is still raw.

I stick to my views that the Australians will be difficult to beat at home but will struggle now in foreign conditions. Warne, Mcgrath, Gilchrist, Langer, Gillespie, Kasprowicz. Gosh i mean people must have been delluded if they felt they can replace such players easily.

Those players gave the Australians the cutting edge. Now Australia is no different from South Africa. Its going to be fun playing them now, Hehehehehehe.

But you want Pakistan to boycott Australia so maybe no fun for you hehehehehehe.

In amongst all this do remember that we have never been good in India, we took an absolute gun side there in 2001 and lost, we took an even better side there in 2004 and won. The side that won in 2004 is in a different galaxy to the current side as far as personell goes.

But the basic point of hard to beat at home, tough to get wins away looks about right.
 
Random Aussie said:
But you want Pakistan to boycott Australia so maybe no fun for you hehehehehehe.

In amongst all this do remember that we have never been good in India, we took an absolute gun side there in 2001 and lost, we took an even better side there in 2004 and won. The side that won in 2004 is in a different galaxy to the current side as far as personell goes.

But the basic point of hard to beat at home, tough to get wins away looks
about right.

I disagree with you as they have not played against the Pakistanis or Lankand and the Aussies are like wounded tigers that will claw back ,so the Indian's need to continue playing incredibly aggressive cricket to maintain the intensity otherwise they will bounce back to clinch the series.
 
Momo said:
Congrats India. A well-deserved victory!
This Aussie team sucks. Was actually a no-match.

Pretty much the same treatment to follow in T3 and T4.


Cheers Momo :D....
 
Manish26 said:
I disagree with you as they have not played against the Pakistanis or Lankand and the Aussies are like wounded tigers that will claw back ,so the Indian's need to continue playing incredibly aggressive cricket to maintain the intensity otherwise they will bounce back to clinch the series.

We played the Lankans in 2005 I think, we won mostly thanks to Damien Martyn and Lehmann who were excellent players of spin but we certainly weren't great in that series, more that Sri Lanka were pretty poor and we had a very talented side. That was some real boring cricket that tour.

Pakistan is irrelevant because we never tour Pakistan, unfortunately.
 
Random Aussie said:
But you want Pakistan to boycott Australia so maybe no fun for you hehehehehehe.

In amongst all this do remember that we have never been good in India, we took an absolute gun side there in 2001 and lost, we took an even better side there in 2004 and won. The side that won in 2004 is in a different galaxy to the current side as far as personell goes.

But the basic point of hard to beat at home, tough to get wins away looks about right.

u had a great side in 04 and indian cricket was in strife..
Plus the fact the it was gilchrist who was captaining the side and not ponting :D
 
What is satisfying is how many Indians had a good match: Sachin, Saurav, MSD, Gambhir, Sehwag, Mishra, Ishant, Zaheer and Bhajji.. Dravid and VVS didn't have a too bad a game either.
 
maybe they must put in roy or nathan bracken in stead of ... ? someone else :P
 
Congrats India on a thumping Win!

Australia will need to improve in last two tests.. india on a roll going to Dehli!
 
Random Aussie said:
We played the Lankans in 2005 I think, we won mostly thanks to Damien Martyn and Lehmann who were excellent players of spin but we certainly weren't great in that series, more that Sri Lanka were pretty poor and we had a very talented side. That was some real boring cricket that tour.

Pakistan is irrelevant because we never tour Pakistan, unfortunately.



I thought that was a great series actually. We came from behind in every test to win, Warne owned Murali in his own backyard, Gilchrist coming in at 3 and whacking Murali all over the park. It was a great sight to behold.
 
Milroastnescafe said:
I thought that was a great series actually. We came from behind in every test to win, Warne owned Murali in his own backyard, Gilchrist coming in at 3 and whacking Murali all over the park. It was a great sight to behold.

What I remember of it is some SL leggie bowling gentle maiden after maiden to Damien Martyn who played every ball without moving his stance and just sticking his bat out.
 
Harharhar like it took the mighty Red Army to weaken Nazi Germany before the Americans stomped victory parade after victory parade.....
 
I am watching highlight of Bangladesh vs New Zealand in First Test Series. Fantastic coverage and pitch. Sort of low bounce, but definitely, much assistance to spinner and fast bowlers who able to get the ball swing easily.
Fair competitive between Bangladesh and New Zealand.

Australia has really bored me. Fun watching Ishant Sharma and Zaheer including with India batmen. But what happened to Australia now? :raja
 
There's something about dhoni yaar

India v Australia, 2nd Test, Mohali, 5th day

There's something about Dhoni

Cricinfo staff

October 21, 2008


Mahendra Singh Dhoni had a perfect match: he scored two aggressive half-centuries, and almost all his plans as captain worked © AFP


There's something about Mahendra Singh Dhoni. His detractors call it luck, but whatever it is, it has worked. Twice this year, he has been told about half an hour before a Test that he will have to lead the side, and twice India have won comprehensively under him. If in Mohali, as he admitted, he was lucky to win the toss; in Kanpur, India won despite batting last on a crumbling spinners' paradise. If at all, he has been lucky that his players have produced special performances: Sourav Ganguly and VVS Laxman conducted a workshop on batting on bad pitches in Kanpur, and Dhoni got special performances from nine of the players in Mohali.

His 100% win record is safe but Dhoni isn't shouting triumphantly from the rooftops just yet. "Playing [just] one Test and hitting a half century, you get an average of 50. So is the case if you hit a 100," Dhoni said, moments after securing India's biggest victory in terms of runs. "Your performance is counted over a longer duration of the game. I got my chance here but it was a team effort."

Dhoni, however, has the Midas touch and it was summed up best when he asked the debutant Amit Mishra to go round the stumps in the last over of the second day. Mishra bowled an accurate wrong'un to trap Michael Clarke in front and one was reminded of the ploy to give Joginder Sharma the final over of the World Twenty20 final. But Dhoni, to the amusement of all present, only said, "Fluke tha yaar [It was a fluke]."

What wasn't a fluke, though, was how Dhoni batted. He infused urgency into India's mindset with his aggressive approach and timely changes to the batting order. He had batted defensively in Bangalore and failed miserably, but in Mohali, he hooked his first ball for four - a statement that he wanted to make amends.

"It was a perfect scenario," Dhoni said. "We had got off to a good start on a good batting track and the ball was old. I think that suited my form of batting because that is my strength. In between, if there is a situation, I can go back [on the defensive] like the Lord's innings."

"But I should play the kind of cricket that I play more often, and that is aggressive cricket. In between I was not really playing my natural game, thinking more about the scenario and conditions. I need to play to my strength which is going out there looking to score runs. It is not only about hitting, it's about being fractionally more positive than others."

There was a beautiful moment after the completion of India's 320-run win. While everybody rushed to grab a stump as a souvenir, Ganguly merely walked up to congratulate his team-mates. Dhoni gave the man playing his last series, and also a centurion in this match, the stump he had taken for himself.

Dhoni later revealed that watching Ganguly was the most special part of this Test. "Sourav's getting to 7000 was very special. This is his last series and he is just going out and enjoying the game. He doesn't have any sort of pressure and that's how you want him to play. Sourav at his best, when he is playing his shots, is very different to others." And Ganguly, on his part, has played outstanding innings in both the Tests that Dhoni has captained.

Keeping calm on the field is quickly becoming Dhoni's signature, and he kept his cool off it as well, when a couple of potentially explosive questions were put to him. He was asked about his players' behaviour during the Test - Zaheer Khan was fined 80% of his match fee - and whether overtly aggressive sledging was the only way to beat Australia. "The only way to beat Australia is to play good consistent cricket," was Dhoni's response. "If it was verbal we would have had hired a few guys who are very good in that aspect." The reporters, if looking for a controversial quote, could only smile in resignation.

Dhoni was also asked to explain his appeal for a catch against Mitchell Johnson, one that he had taken on the bounce. Dhoni had appealed but straightaway asked the umpire to call the third umpire because he was not sure. Ricky Ponting was asked a similar question after the Sydney Test and he responded angrily asking the journalist whether he was questioning his integrity. Dhoni's response, however, was different. "I was not sure about the catch so I immediately got up and asked the umpire [gestures as if referring a decision to the third umpire], and Rudi [Koertzen] said that he [Johnson] never nicked it. So there was no point," Dhoni said.

"There are times when the ball bounces in front of you and you are not really sure. Your eyes are closed at times but when you feel hard [impact] on the gloves, you think it has carried to you. Since, in this series, it is not about players, it is ultimately the umpire's decision whether to refer to the third umpire or not."

His jokes apart, it was a perfect match for Dhoni. He won the toss and batted India to a dominant position in the first innings, almost all his bowling changes seemed to work, and, most importantly, he brought a ruthless touch to India's approach while setting a target.

However, like he did in Kanpur, Dhoni was wearing Anil Kumble's blazer when he went out for the toss. "Stand-in captain, stand-in blazer," Dhoni said. The way he is going they might need to stitch one for him soon.

impossible to hate this guy. What a class act.
 
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