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India v New Zealand | 1st Test | Kanpur | Sep 22-26, 2016 | Day 1

Let's have a round of applause for Rohit for exposing the lower order to the second new ball.

But he is clearly a talented batsman and it's just a case of time before he comes good in the longer format. He has so much time to play his shots which is a very rare ability and they are so easy on your eyes. He is the type of batsman you would pay to watch.
 
Every wicket to the new ball makes Rohit's dismissal worse. What a complete dunce he is. Travesty. Just ****ing put Rohit Sharma's bat in front of the stumps and it'd protect the wicket longer than he does.
 
Every wicket to the new ball makes Rohit's dismissal worse. What a complete dunce he is. Travesty. Just ****ing put Rohit Sharma's bat in front of the stumps and it'd protect the wicket longer than he does.

Lmao:))) :)))
 
Every wicket to the new ball makes Rohit's dismissal worse. What a complete dunce he is. Travesty. Just ****ing put Rohit Sharma's bat in front of the stumps and it'd protect the wicket longer than he does.

Rofl :)))
 
Can't believe people are criticizing Rohit when your top order and middle order faultered. Likes of Kohli and Rahane.
 
India are one spinner short.
That will make it an even contest.

Very strange team selection wrt spinners. Very adventurous to have dropped Mishra.
 
Jadeja and him coming front food is worst than Alan Donald and his running.
 
Can't believe people are criticizing Rohit when your top order and middle order faultered. Likes of Kohli and Rahane.

Kohli is obviously not blameless. But Rohit got out at the worst possible time (half an hour to go and second new ball due with only tailenders left) by playing a brainless shot. He is clearly the one who is most at fault.
 
Can't believe people are criticizing Rohit when your top order and middle order faultered. Likes of Kohli and Rahane.

That's what the scorecard says. See, it's not wrong to get out, everyone will perish to one good ball or the other. Rahane for example got a good ball from Craig that bounced from a good length. Kohli, you could blame but he is a good player of the short ball and he probably trusted his ability in playing that short but the ball got too quick to him.

But what Rohit did was a basic elementary schoolboy error in test cricket. Even U19 cricketers will know that you have to play for the day in the last 6 or 7 overs, especially with the 2nd new ball moving around. Add to this the delicate match situation in which there is only a fragile lower order to come after Rohit and Ashwin. And Sharma decides to clear the boundary trying to "take the attack to the opposition" in the last few overs of the day against the 2nd new ball. Are you freaking kidding me?:facepalm:

This is equivalent to the shot the Prof played in the 2nd innings of the Edgbaston test when Pakistan were trying to save the game.
 
That's what the scorecard says. See, it's not wrong to get out, everyone will perish to one good ball or the other. Rahane for example got a good ball from Craig that bounced from a good length. Kohli, you could blame but he is a good player of the short ball and he probably trusted his ability in playing that short but the ball got too quick to him.

But what Rohit did was a basic elementary schoolboy error in test cricket. Even U19 cricketers will know that you have to play for the day in the last 6 or 7 overs, especially with the 2nd new ball moving around. Add to this the delicate match situation in which there is only a fragile lower order to come after Rohit and Ashwin. And Sharma decides to clear the boundary trying to "take the attack to the opposition" in the last few overs of the day against the 2nd new ball. Are you freaking kidding me?:facepalm:

This is equivalent to the shot the Prof played in the 2nd innings of the Edgbaston test when Pakistan were trying to save the game.

Moving aside from that discussion,

Rahane got a good ball?

Sure.

But how did he play it?

In the most phattu way possible.

That dismissal is an example of how to not play spin.

As usual he made the same mistake.
 
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Moving aside from that discussion,

Rahane got a good ball?

Sure.

But how did he play it?

In the most phattu way possible.

That dismissal is an example of how to not play spin.

As usual he made the same mistake.

He is not the best player of spin, and je should have got the pitch of the delivery more.

This innings has just confirmed what we already knew, that Vijay and Pujara are our best players of spin, but that's not saying much about our spin playing prowess.
 
NZ will be lucky to have played out the day tomorrow
 
Even stevens on day one. New Zealand have to bat really well now, with Ross Taylor's contribution vital.
 
It's a 400 wicket

Anyways very good from kiwis. Getting the most out of limited resources. Tomorrow should be exciting
 
Kiwis will have two walking wickets at top of the order against the Indian spinners.. India have a pretty decent 1st inns total here.
 
It seems 300 has become an average score in India. I didn't watch this test. How was the pitch behaving? Was it a poor batting, difficult pitch or good bowling?
 
It seems 300 has become an average score in India. I didn't watch this test. How was the pitch behaving? Was it a poor batting, difficult pitch or good bowling?

From what I read, it was a slow paced wicket. Not much spin yet. But Indian batsmen were inept and played rash shots. Then Boult cleaned up the tail with the new ball. He swung the ball both ways and had the batsmen searching for the ball.
 
Time to drop Rohit permanently from Tests for India's sake. He is blocking the place of more deserving youngsters - manish pandey.

Rohit should stick to ODI's and T20's.

Kohli has been playing like a dud in Test matches too. A part from that double ton against West Indies, he has been pathetic in the last 1 year.
 
Watched the last session, a bit of purchase for the spinners but some of the shots from the Indian batsman were quite poor especially Rohit Sharma.
 
How?hes done just enough to play the series.Wont be surprised if Pujara is dropped again in case we play 5 bowlers

As crazy as our selectors may be.....30s is frowned upon by them.

It's the 50s or 100s that you need to be worried about.

As long as Rohit doesn't cross 50, I am positive he will be dropped from the next squad announcement which could be after this test or after 2 tests or after this series.

Selectors even for this squad selection thought about Rohit and then selected him.

He is already on thin ice. In retrospect, those 30-40 extra runs from Rohit (from the time he got out) isn't going to help us as much as seeing him gone forever. Once you get dropped from Indian squad after being given lots of chances, comeback is even harder.

So all in all....this is a blessing in disguise.
 
Parosis having a hard time keeping in touch with the top ranked side :srt
 
Now if Rohit plays a crucial knock of 30 runs in tricky conditions in the 3rd innings to help us win...that's different. It would save him for a few more tests.

But then...its Rohit.

So you kinda have the confidence he won't score that much in intense pressure.
 
Pakistani batsmen are a different class in these conditions .
Nobody in India can get daddy hundreds
Younis is a tier above any indian batsman .
If newzealand had win the toss . They could have put serious pressure on India
Done well on the first day though.
 
From what I read, it was a slow paced wicket. Not much spin yet. But Indian batsmen were inept and played rash shots. Then Boult cleaned up the tail with the new ball. He swung the ball both ways and had the batsmen searching for the ball.

Lately the standard of pitches in India have been very bad. I remember the India vs Australia series where the games were over in 3 days. These pitches are pure dust pitches. Ball starts spinning from get go and the balls will keep low with varying bounce. Very hard for batsmen, especially for visiting team. I think, 292 is more than enough for India. New Zealand will be very lucky to get past 200 with Ashwin and Jadeja doing very well on this pitch.
 
Maybe people need to ACTUALLY go and see the match and see the current NZ pitch.

Want me to pull up the scores of Aus series?

Aus scored 380 in Chennai...400 in Mohali...

India scored 500 in Chennai, Hyderabad and Mohali.

Don't go by what others are saying. Go and verify data yourself.

Tired of people talking confidently about stuff that they "heard" from others.

Sure, some rank turners were prepared but anyone can go to cricinfo and pull up the scorecards of matches in the last 5 years.

India vs WI 2011 in India
India vs NZ 2012 in India
India vs Eng 2012 in India
India vs Aus 2013 in India
India vs WI 2013 in India
India vs SA 2015 in India

Now tally up how many low scoring games were there.

And don't be shocked at the low number.

lol.
 
What do you think about Pujara?

Has he got back his flow?

And can he ever succeed outside Asia?
He just had a lean patch and Kohli worsened it by messing around with his #3 spot. Uncertainty of his spot which results in loss of confidence is not what you wanna be doing with your number 3. There's already enough pressure.

Of course he can succeed outside Asia. He has immaculate defence. He scored 150+ in SA. Looked rock solid in Australia(had quite a few starts including a 73) and was comfortable dealing with the Gabba bounce. He just wasn't able to convert.
 
He just had a lean patch and Kohli worsened it by messing around with his #3 spot. Uncertainty of his spot which results in loss of confidence is not what you wanna be doing with your number 3. There's already enough pressure.

Of course he can succeed outside Asia. He has immaculate defence. He scored 150+ in SA. Looked rock solid in Australia(had quite a few starts including a 73) and was comfortable dealing with the Gabba bounce. He just wasn't able to convert.

Thanks.

But then he was dropped ONLY after given a long run in NZ, Eng and Aus where he kept flopping. He did look awful in like 10 tests across a year.

Yeah, he looked solid in SA but then looked hopeless almost everywhere (like he had regressed)...now looks better.

I am just confused about him.
 
Regardless of how India bowls....I feel NZ should be ecstatic about today.

291-9 on a 400 pitch is a great effort. We were 154-1 at one stage. Haha/

If NZ apply themselves, then this is gonna be a close game.
 
He just had a lean patch and Kohli worsened it by messing around with his #3 spot. Uncertainty of his spot which results in loss of confidence is not what you wanna be doing with your number 3. There's already enough pressure.

Of course he can succeed outside Asia. He has immaculate defence. He scored 150+ in SA. Looked rock solid in Australia(had quite a few starts including a 73) and was comfortable dealing with the Gabba bounce. He just wasn't able to convert.

Kohli himself hasn't done anything special after that double hundred against west indies.
 
Pakistani batsmen are a different class in these conditions .
Nobody in India can get daddy hundreds
Younis is a tier above any indian batsman .
If newzealand had win the toss . They could have put serious pressure on India
Done well on the first day though.

Younis is from sachin-dravid era. These new generation cricketers don't have the patience to go beyond 200.
 
I doubt if this match goes to 5th day :(

At least, I can expect that the game should go till Friday & Saturday nights............
 
Regardless of how India bowls....I feel NZ should be ecstatic about today.

291-9 on a 400 pitch is a great effort. We were 154-1 at one stage. Haha/

If NZ apply themselves, then this is gonna be a close game.

They'll need at least 100 runs lead to be at per - don't think Kiwis can chase 170 on last innings, while IND will score 250+ at least 2nd time around.

Could have been a really close match had Kiwis batted first.
 
Maybe people need to ACTUALLY go and see the match and see the current NZ pitch.

Want me to pull up the scores of Aus series?

Aus scored 380 in Chennai...400 in Mohali...

India scored 500 in Chennai, Hyderabad and Mohali.

Don't go by what others are saying. Go and verify data yourself.

Tired of people talking confidently about stuff that they "heard" from others.

Sure, some rank turners were prepared but anyone can go to cricinfo and pull up the scorecards of matches in the last 5 years.

India vs WI 2011 in India
India vs NZ 2012 in India
India vs Eng 2012 in India
India vs Aus 2013 in India
India vs WI 2013 in India
India vs SA 2015 in India

Now tally up how many low scoring games were there.

And don't be shocked at the low number.

lol.

Only the SA series was one which had low scores from both teams.Others had runs from each team.
 
They'll need at least 100 runs lead to be at per - don't think Kiwis can chase 170 on last innings, while IND will score 250+ at least 2nd time around.

Could have been a really close match had Kiwis batted first.

What's your take on India's innings?
 
As crazy as our selectors may be.....30s is frowned upon by them.

It's the 50s or 100s that you need to be worried about.

As long as Rohit doesn't cross 50, I am positive he will be dropped from the next squad announcement which could be after this test or after 2 tests or after this series.

Selectors even for this squad selection thought about Rohit and then selected him.

He is already on thin ice. In retrospect, those 30-40 extra runs from Rohit (from the time he got out) isn't going to help us as much as seeing him gone forever. Once you get dropped from Indian squad after being given lots of chances, comeback is even harder.

So all in all....this is a blessing in disguise.

If such things mattered,Rohit would have been out by now.

Kohli has gone out of his way,abandoning his 5 bowler theory,just to accomodate him.

Hes not going anywhere from squad atleast now.What is to be seen is who gets the axe in case we play 5 bowlers,which we might need to do if NZ bat well in this Test
 
If such things mattered,Rohit would have been out by now.

Kohli has gone out of his way,abandoning his 5 bowler theory,just to accomodate him.

Hes not going anywhere from squad atleast now.What is to be seen is who gets the axe in case we play 5 bowlers,which we might need to do if NZ bat well in this Test

Nah...Kohli not abandoning 5 bowler theory to accomodate Rohit.

He realizes 5 bowlers are an overkill in most SC games.

Wait and watch. If Rohit doesn't cross 50 in any of the tests and doesn't fluke out a crucial 30 in 4th innings chase or something...you can bet he will be dropped.
 
1.This match will have result

2.The winner would be decided by the 2nd innings(NZ's 1st)

Atmost India would score 320.

If NZ score 400 in 1st innings,lead of 80...Then NZ would Win

If they don't get a lead above 50 atleas, then surely India would win, as it's not easy for NZ to bat in the 4th innings against Ash and Sir
 
Nah...Kohli not abandoning 5 bowler theory to accomodate Rohit.

He realizes 5 bowlers are an overkill in most SC games.

Wait and watch. If Rohit doesn't cross 50 in any of the tests and doesn't fluke out a crucial 30 in 4th innings chase or something...you can bet he will be dropped.

Wouldnt it make sense then to play Dhawan down the order,considering he's scored some runs atleast and offers a left handed option
 
Honours are even at this stage imo it all depends on how well NZ bat really, on paper 300 odd may not look ruthless but it could be enough, especially with the wicket expected to deteriorate further the Indian spinners will come into play
 
I follow Pakistan cricket, but being an Indian, I do follow some Indian matches as well.

I really don't like the inclusion of Rohit...It clearly shows that Rohit is playing jus coz of stardom and Friendship.

Its not acceptable,especially in TEST CRICKET.You got to play your best 11 and also get your combination right

This should be the batting line up in Asia

1.Rahul
2.Vijay
3.Pujara
4.Kohli
5.Rahane
6.Pandey
7.Karthik(+)
8.Ashwin
9.Jadeja
 
What's your take on India's innings?

Went for a nap after Rahul got out & woke up at 85th over :(

I think, India has won the Test on Day 1. Kiwis took a chance with toss (went for 5 bowlers, which'll work for non Asian sides in Asia if ONLY they bat first), but failed on that.

May be, if they can get IND under 300 & bat for really long in first innings, can make a match of it. Their depth is good, but scoring 400+ against this attack is really tough.

Regarding Indian batting - it's pathetic. No wonder, IND doesn't have anyone in top 10 batting ranking. 15 years back, on same track, against this attack, IND would have finished Day 1, at 333/3.
 
This is a bloody 400 pitch.

Watched a couple of hours when NZ turned the tide. I didn't see the pitch spitting cobras, it looked like a decent Day 1 Asian track. NZ spinners got some turn but was slow.

The curators have been watering the pitch whereas last year in Nagpur v SA the pitch was so dry the cracks were opening up even at the toss.

Anyway there were a few loose shots by IND. One problem modern batsmen have in Tests is they always want to get bat on ball and get twitchy after a few dry overs so throw their wicket away. Kohli seems to have the same issue as Root - there's no discernible technical flaw but you can get them out if you test their patience.

These are the sorts of days where there's no shame in grinding to 230-3 then really pushing on tomorrow to 400 plus. Pakistan have done that a few times in the UAE.
 
Watched a couple of hours when NZ turned the tide. I didn't see the pitch spitting cobras, it looked like a decent Day 1 Asian track. NZ spinners got some turn but was slow.

The curators have been watering the pitch whereas last year in Nagpur v SA the pitch was so dry the cracks were opening up even at the toss.

Anyway there were a few loose shots by IND. One problem modern batsmen have in Tests is they always want to get bat on ball and get twitchy after a few dry overs so throw their wicket away. Kohli seems to have the same issue as Root - there's no discernible technical flaw but you can get them out if you test their patience.

These are the sorts of days where there's no shame in grinding to 230-3 then really pushing on tomorrow to 400 plus. Pakistan have done that a few times in the UAE.

True.

Just disgraceful batting.
 
If i see Rohit playing one more test match i'm going to either break my tv or start supporting New Zealand.
 
If i see Rohit playing one more test match i'm going to either break my tv or start supporting New Zealand.

I can see, ur TV being broken/ u supporting NZ team.

You can even support NO.1 team..
# we won't giv it back
 
I can see, ur TV being broken/ u supporting NZ team.

You can even support NO.1 team..
# we won't giv it back

Dost this might be a personal question and you may chose not to respond but which Indian in his right mind would support Pakistan over India?

It goes against all logic.


The only Indians that support Pakistan are those that reside in IOK. Perhaps you are of Kashmiri descent living in South India?
 
Dost this might be a personal question and you may chose not to respond but which Indian in his right mind would support Pakistan over India?

It goes against all logic.


The only Indians that support Pakistan are those that reside in IOK. Perhaps you are of Kashmiri descent living in South India?

There are many Indian Muslims who support Pakistan. But only when India is not playing against them. Its like Pakistan is their 2nd team after India.

Indian Muslims never support Bangladesh. I wonder why? They look more similar to Bangladeshis but still support Pakistan as their 2nd team. No love for Banglas.
 
NZ have no superstars but are a very underrated side. They will give India a tough series possibly even winning it. 291 is nothing great, if NZ score 400 in the first innings can put India under severe pressure.

NZ on their own grounds will give us even a tougher time. Indian Muslim's should support India and most do, that's the way it should be just like I support my country at the football.

I never support India at anything. When Sania Mirza who is a Muslim is playing I want her to get thrashed by everyone. She's rubbish anyway.
 
At this point, at the end of the 1st day, NZ slightly ahead of the Indians. Rohit Sharma failed again ... hmmmm.
What is it about this guy that he keeps getting " one more " chance all the time ??? Hope some of the Indian contributors can throw some light on this. NZ will have to bat very patiently.... otherwise they can throw away the advantage of their hard work. Can't wait for tomorrow. ,!!
 
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