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Is Bangladesh really the second best team in Asia?

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I hope u've got ur answer mate. Looks like I was pretty much spot on with my assessment :)
 
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I hope u've got ur answer mate. Looks like I was pretty much spot on with my assessment :)

I asked you this question after Afg bashed you for 4th straight time but you were hiding. Now showing up after the win :))
 
On topic, why dont Pak and BD play a bilateral series to seal this debate once for all. Indo-Pak dont play due to political issues but what is the matter between BD and Pak? If I am not wrong this was their 1st ODI since 2015 series. Even Ind plays more with Pak than BD.

Why?
 
On topic, why dont Pak and BD play a bilateral series to seal this debate once for all. Indo-Pak dont play due to political issues but what is the matter between BD and Pak? If I am not wrong this was their 1st ODI since 2015 series. Even Ind plays more with Pak than BD.

Why?

Pakistan cricket board feels Bangladesh should tour Pakistan given that other sides like SL Zim WI have toured, etc.

BCB feels PCB trying to bully them. At the end of the day cricket is the biggest loser. Tbh PCB should just host us in the UAE. Pakistan players play in BPL. Our boys play in PSL.
 
Pakistan cricket board feels Bangladesh should tour Pakistan given that other sides like SL Zim WI have toured, etc.

BCB feels PCB trying to bully them. At the end of the day cricket is the biggest loser. Tbh PCB should just host us in the UAE. Pakistan players play in BPL. Our boys play in PSL.

I don't understand if they can host all other teams in UAE then why can't they host Bangladesh? It doesn't make sense.
 
India is the strongest team without a doubt.

Pak/BD are almost even in short format these days. Afg isn't that far as we all saw. So I see Pak/Bd/Afg being quiet even and you can't predict who will win before the game.

SL is after that unfortunately.
 
I have no problem when you say Pak is 2nd best team. However, by facts BD is still way ahead of AFG(24 ratings to be exact).

We don't care about your useless opinion which cannot be backed up by facts or evidence.

Didn't you get smashed in the recent series against Afghanistan too? The problem with BD fans like you is you live under the rock when your team gets a hiding which is too often.
 
Bengali vs bangladeshi

No they're number one for sure, the greatest ODi's sorry i mean cricket playing country in the world.. :) (What i always read of Bangali posters)


Hopefully one day you will be knowledgeable enough to distinguish between bengali and Bangladeshis. India have two major Bengali spoken state, West Bengal and Tripura. Saurav Ganguly is bengali.:narine
 
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Didn't you get smashed in the recent series against Afghanistan too? The problem with BD fans like you is you live under the rock when your team gets a hiding which is too often.

Yes we did but in T20. Afg is a far superior T20 team no one is denying that. WI is two times T20 champ no one is denying that.

We are talking about ODI, not T20 not Test.
 
Let's leave Asia Cup - just one odd tournament.

But, I have a multiple choice for you, a business case : 3.5 years back, we gave PAK a real hiding (in both sense, considering that hide means skin as well). But that was, against the weakest PAK in history, under the worst Captain ever, at home custom made Mirpur wicket, when we were in purple patch, and few good players were at their prime.

3.5 years later, this is a born again PAK, playing at adopted home where they have been playing for 35 years now, last 10 as host, under the greatest Captain PAK has got since Khan .... when our talent pool is barren, without best 2 players and one of them happens to be the No. 1 all-rounder in ODI for almost a decade now, outside Mirpur in a place last we played when some of the squad members were not even born ........ and the result is same, well almost same - this tool Liton wanted to catch with some estyle and dropped Asif, otherwise it would have been another bonus point.

Now, my question is - if this under-strength team can do such to THIS PAK side in an eliminator from a 12/3 start, against such a dynamic Captain and top order batting line up with 3 players averaging over 50, then there are few possibilities - 1. BD team must have improved ....... or PAK team is absolute rubbish under an equally matching Captain, made statistical fortune by bashing back-up teams of SRL & ZIM ....... these are mutually not exclusive condition - both can be correct at a time as well - which one you think is most likely?

A: BD improved
B: PAK is minnow level, as BD is still border line minnow & Sarfraz is a tool
C: Both A & B true
D: It's a fixed match - PAK players sold the game

You can choose multiple answers as well.

There is no denying Bangladesh has improved in one format and that is ODIs. If one win or lose in recent times are good enough to conclude that Bang is better than they might be a better team then Australia in 2000s bcz they were able to beat them once.
 
Everyone loaded on him with BDs performances.

And if I remember correctly he hided for almost couple of months after those performances in tests against WI team few months back. :ashwin
 
Bangladesh has reached the Asia cup final 3 times out of last 4 Asia cups. What more do you want to label them 2nd best?

Just that cricket has bit more reach than Asia and Asia cup believe it or not is a regional tournament. Bangladesh played well, kudos but it doesn't prove anything.
 
Remember the 1st tips from experience - "The key to be successful as a blogger - when you get someone agree on your logic, writing against him or her".

Now remember the 2nd tips - "if you post trash in blog, you'll have to go AWOL frequently, as it's documented".

I'll give you 3rd tips after you login here with your account.

"The key to be successful as a blogger - when you get someone agree on your logic, writing against him or her".
What does that mean? You get someone to agree to you and then you write against him? Why ? How will you write against someone? It has to be about a subject and also where you stand on that subject.

Can you please explain?
 
Umm by International Rankings do you mean the ICC ranking? Well I'd say if you meant that one then Bangladesh is still right behind India and Pakistan and ahead of Srilanka and well ahead of Afghanistan in the ODI rankings.

As far as international tournament goes we have managed to reach the semifinals in CT and the Quarters in the WC in Australia, the last few runner-ups in Asia cups, the Trination Nidadhas trophy...now, don't you think it's unfair to put us on the same level as Afghanistan in ODIs just because our Bangladesh C lost to Afghanistan heavily in the league stages? Yes our future kind of looks bleak with the dearth in talented youngsters but in the present Bangladesh is definitely the 3rd best in Asia and arguably the second best because the last 4 ODIs Pakistan and Bangladesh faced each other Bangladesh won all 4 of them. Now, you might say in 2015 that was the worst team in Pakistan history and to that I can also say that the Bangladesh team you lost to in the Asia Cup is also a Bangladesh B team with Tamim and Shakib missing, Mushfique playing with a broken rib and the help of 24 painkiller injections and cramps, a half-limping Mashrafee and cramped up Mustafiz.

I don't need people's affirmation to claim we are the 2nd best or the 3rd best since I know we are judging by rankings and ability. Afghanistan may overtake is in the future and I really admire them and Bangladesh might fall behind but we'll see, only time can reveal the truth.

Oh man really? Yes you reached the semi final but what abt the rain in the match which Aussies were winning? Would you have gone through without that? Bang won just 1 match in the whole CT 17
 
One win against us doesn't automatically give them the 2nd best Asian team credentials. BD is as inconsistent as our own team but they have been more often on the loosing side than us. Let's see how they do over the next 12 months before conferring the 2nd best title
 
Just that cricket has bit more reach than Asia and Asia cup believe it or not is a regional tournament. Bangladesh played well, kudos but it doesn't prove anything.

Asia cup is a regional tournament but question is also about Asia only. So in context of the question, Asia cup is relevant.
 
Disagree. Bangladesh is better than Pakistan outside Asia.

BD won the ODI series in WI recently. On the other hand, Pak lost 5-0 to NZ.

Pak reached the QF of 2015 WC. So did BD.

Pak reached CT17 final and was extremely lucky to face an off-colour India. BD faced the same Indian team at the SF and unfortunately for them, India was in full force that day.

It is a myth that Pakistan become a better team when playing outside Asia. If possible, they are even worse outside Asia.

Lol! what abt the ODI series Pak won in WI last time they toured and won the T20 series and also the test series (Without getting bowled out for under 50 I guess twice). What abt recent drawn series against Eng.
 
Asia cup is a regional tournament but question is also about Asia only. So in context of the question, Asia cup is relevant.

Come on man. What has Bangladesh to flaunt for other than playing few Asia cup finals and beating some top teams 3-4 times?

Its Improving and I like and respect that but please be realistic.
 
I guess Bangladeshi fans need to come out of this inferiority complex they have had for decades and start talking sense. Its great for cricket that there team has improved but still a long way to go.

They are yet to win a test series abroad (In their last tour to WI they got bowled out for twice under 50 in one test) and have just one overseas victory in ODIs against a lower ranked team then theirs.

They haven't won a test series at home for God knows how many years and they have won only 2-3 in the history of their cricket I guess.

Yes their ODI side has improved and they have won some series but are yet to set the world on fire in any major world tournament.

In T20s they are ranked below Afgh so not much to say there.

These are just pure facts without any intention to hurt but with the intention that posters start writing things that make sense.
 
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This is my standing for this forum only: (Top 15)
1) India
2) India A team
3) India B team
4) Pakistan
5) Afghanistan
6) India C team
7) Sri Lanka
8) Hong Kong
9) UAE
10) Nepal
11) Qatar
12) Malaysia
13) India D team
14) India U-19 team
15) Japan
 
Didn't you get smashed in the recent series against Afghanistan too? The problem with BD fans like you is you live under the rock when your team gets a hiding which is too often.

Rubbish. Nobody takes international t20s seriously. Its a worthless formation which is played just for fun. We don't take this format seriously which is why we hardly play this format. Winning or Losing international t20s is totally pointless unless it's world t20.
 
Bangladesh is a bit like what India has been in phases in the past: decent batting but a bowling attack not potent enough to take many wickets. This is the profile of a team which can compete in ODIs but not tests.
 
Bangladesh is a bit like what India has been in phases in the past: decent batting but a bowling attack not potent enough to take many wickets. This is the profile of a team which can compete in ODIs but not tests away from home.

#fixed.
 
We have lots of problems. We know that. For example: Without Tamim, our top order crumbles. No death bowling at all. Very recently learning how to finish a close match. That doesn't mean other teams (except India) don't have problems.

We just saw Pak team losing to a BD team who don't have two of their best players. With those two in, this wouldn't be a contest unless Pak changes couple of players and hoping they perform.
SL, don't have enough space or time to start.
Afghans, Very competitive but lack experience. You can't just inject experience in to players. It takes time and they have to go through that. Their fast bowling use to be a strength but now is a weakness. Still need to learn how to rotate strike for the top order.

Make your own mind on who is better than who. I know where we stand. To make you guys happy I already posted the top 15 in Asia. Enough of hatred towards us.
 
Bangladesh is a bit like what India has been in phases in the past: decent batting but a bowling attack not potent enough to take many wickets. This is the profile of a team which can compete in ODIs but not tests away from home and at home against an Asian team that can play spin like India.


Fixed again 😀
 
I guess Bangladeshi fans need to come out of this inferiority complex they have had for decades and start talking sense. Its great for cricket that there team has improved but still a long way to go.

They are yet to win a test series abroad (In their last tour to WI they got bowled out for twice under 50 in one test) and have just one overseas victory in ODIs against a lower ranked team then theirs.

They haven't won a test series at home for God knows how many years and they have won only 2-3 in the history of their cricket I guess.

Yes their ODI side has improved and they have won some series but are yet to set the world on fire in any major world tournament.

In T20s they are ranked below Afgh so not much to say there.

These are just pure facts without any intention to hurt but with the intention that posters start writing things that make sense.


NO.

Bangladesh fans are quite level headed, and they know where there team is - in fact Indian fans as well. It's the PAK fans that needs to come out their superiority complex. More over, you don't know where your cricket stands - dreaming standing on a hollow sand pile and try to get offensive whenever reality bites.

I read few spicy posts from Indian posters against BD as well - that might not be polished or acceptable, but at least they have a point - their team is backing their arrogance, if I put it this way. I don't comment against any Indian poster here unless it goes beyond decency level, because they are the best side in Asia by some margin, and do know where they stand in cricket. More than anyone, Indian posters were shamed for their English tour after so much hype, hence there was absolutely no reason to taunt them - because I knew what it takes for an Asian side to play 5 Test in UK. What you lot do is jumping like goat's 3rd kid after bashing ZIM reserves!!!!

What you guys have apart from boasting on history? With such a hopeless bunch the way you guys jump here, if you had a team remotely close to IND, by now most of non PAK fans would have left PP for your arrogance. Do you ever look at the mirror before pointing finger to others? Even SRL at least has one thing to like about - they have flair, don't play absolute rubbish, outdated, obsolete cricket like your pathetic lot - that opening two overs of 40 years old semi retired Malinga had more skills to show with new ball than what your 6 heroes have shown in entire tournament. Then you come back to taunt about Rubel or Mustafiz's pace!!!!! Your chucker is talking rubbish about how BD players would be scared to look at them on live telecast - this fool went for 8+ when he last time played against BD with a legal action. Like fan, like player.

I can bring some of the posts from the threads of "Bangladesh is still minnows ....", or "how'll win between 5 game series between PAK & BD..." - it'll be shameful for you. Better, you go back there yourself and check what's written there by BD posters & PAK posters.

Before a game, you can taunt your opponents in blogs, may not be classy, but at least that has some reasons - I can bring posts from some PAK idiots before the Nidahas Cup, or from BD-ENG Test series, BD-AUS Test series ...... which had absolutely no reason for PAK posters to take a dig at BD players, let alone talk rubbish.

I had to write personally to few senior Mods here to make sure that some of your lot behaves properly here regarding Bangladesh - and that's not only for cricket section. Hence, still it's some what decent and few loose mouth have been kept in check, otherwise PP won't have been a place for decent people with some taste.

This is the first time, I decided to return back some compliments so that a lesson is learnt & some PAK posters starts behaving properly. Latest funda I read in Nagin dance, which I have explained many times why and I my self am quite relieved that our players didn't repeat it in Asia Cup - purpose wasn't there.

I can bet, I know more history of PAK cricket & players than most posters here - if I start to post some on & off the field antics of past & present PAK players, I can tell you not many of you'll not remain here to post out of shame. Dope, drug, fixing, beating, call girl, in-fight, gambling ...... what not? Your players are officially first to be arrested for possessing drugs and acts under the influence of alcohol - that's 24 years back, in a foreign country and they had to be bailed out from custody. Similar incident had forced a Test to be delayed by one day in SAF - we may never know the details. Your players have been caught by customs for carrying drugs. Recently, one of your player Imad Wasim was banned from BPL - do you know why? If I write the full story, mods will get busy.

I read lots of negative posts regarding BD fans in stadium - some of the most passionate & enthusiastic people in cricket field who love their team & players. Regardless of result or opponent they come to cheer for their team in numbers - but how many BD fans had created stadium disturbance? BD has lost more matches than most teams at home - how many games had to be stopped or abandoned for crowd trouble in Bangladesh? I can write 2 pages on the dirty & violent antics of PAK crowd here with specific date - some of the most uncultured, idiotic acts were the reason for game interruption at Karachi only in many, many times - but do reflect a good taste if each time players, in fact the whole nation is mocked for what was a past incident?

I can go on and that will only rile up PAK posters here - they won't be able to reply as I am stating facts, but result will be desperate attempt to settle scores some times in future - and this has been going on for long. Before writing fancy posts here, have some soul searching and look back in mirror - then come to advise BD posters here.
 
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I think it is anyone's call at this point for second best team in Asia.

Bangladesh, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, even Afghanistan. Asian teams need to really up their game now.
 
Just that cricket has bit more reach than Asia and Asia cup believe it or not is a regional tournament. Bangladesh played well, kudos but it doesn't prove anything.

The theme of Asia cup is simple- to decide who is the best in Asia by way of a tournament. The motto of world cup is to decide who is the best in the world.And reaching 3 out of 4 finals in Asia cup proves that BD is currently 2nd.
 
NO.

Bangladesh fans are quite level headed, and they know where there team is - in fact Indian fans as well. It's the PAK fans that needs to come out their superiority complex. More over, you don't know where your cricket stands - dreaming standing on a hollow sand pile and try to get offensive whenever reality bites.

I read few spicy posts from Indian posters against BD as well - that might not be polished or acceptable, but at least they have a point - their team is backing their arrogance, if I put it this way. I don't comment against any Indian poster here unless it goes beyond decency level, because they are the best side in Asia by some margin, and do know where they stand in cricket. More than anyone, Indian posters were shamed for their English tour after so much hype, hence there was absolutely no reason to taunt them - because I knew what it takes for an Asian side to play 5 Test in UK. What you lot do is jumping like goat's 3rd kid after bashing ZIM reserves!!!!

What you guys have apart from boasting on history? With such a hopeless bunch the way you guys jump here, if you had a team remotely close to IND, by now most of non PAK fans would have left PP for your arrogance. Do you ever look at the mirror before pointing finger to others? Even SRL at least has one thing to like about - they have flair, don't play absolute rubbish, outdated, obsolete cricket like your pathetic lot - that opening two overs of 40 years old semi retired Malinga had more skills to show with new ball than what your 6 heroes have shown in entire tournament. Then you come back to taunt about Rubel or Mustafiz's pace!!!!! Your chucker is talking rubbish about how BD players would be scared to look at them on live telecast - this fool went for 8+ when he last time played against BD with a legal action. Like fan, like player.

I can bring some of the posts from the threads of "Bangladesh is still minnows ....", or "how'll win between 5 game series between PAK & BD..." - it'll be shameful for you. Better, you go back there yourself and check what's written there by BD posters & PAK posters.

Before a game, you can taunt your opponents in blogs, may not be classy, but at least that has some reasons - I can bring posts from some PAK idiots before the Nidahas Cup, or from BD-ENG Test series, BD-AUS Test series ...... which had absolutely no reason for PAK posters to take a dig at BD players, let alone talk rubbish.

I had to write personally to few senior Mods here to make sure that some of your lot behaves properly here regarding Bangladesh - and that's not only for cricket section. Hence, still it's some what decent and few loose mouth have been kept in check, otherwise PP won't have been a place for decent people with some taste.

This is the first time, I decided to return back some compliments so that a lesson is learnt & some PAK posters starts behaving properly. Latest funda I read in Nagin dance, which I have explained many times why and I my self am quite relieved that our players didn't repeat it in Asia Cup - purpose wasn't there.

I can bet, I know more history of PAK cricket & players than most posters here - if I start to post some on & off the field antics of past & present PAK players, I can tell you not many of you'll not remain here to post out of shame. Dope, drug, fixing, beating, call girl, in-fight, gambling ...... what not? Your players are officially first to be arrested for possessing drugs and acts under the influence of alcohol - that's 24 years back, in a foreign country and they had to be bailed out from custody. Similar incident had forced a Test to be delayed by one day in SAF - we may never know the details. Your players have been caught by customs for carrying drugs. Recently, one of your player Imad Wasim was banned from BPL - do you know why? If I write the full story, mods will get busy.

I read lots of negative posts regarding BD fans in stadium - some of the most passionate & enthusiastic people in cricket field who love their team & players. Regardless of result or opponent they come to cheer for their team in numbers - but how many BD fans had created stadium disturbance? BD has lost more matches than most teams at home - how many games had to be stopped or abandoned for crowd trouble in Bangladesh? I can write 2 pages on the dirty & violent antics of PAK crowd here with specific date - some of the most uncultured, idiotic acts were the reason for game interruption at Karachi only in many, many times - but do reflect a good taste if each time players, in fact the whole nation is mocked for what was a past incident?

I can go on and that will only rile up PAK posters here - they won't be able to reply as I am stating facts, but result will be desperate attempt to settle scores some times in future - and this has been going on for long. Before writing fancy posts here, have some soul searching and look back in mirror - then come to advise BD posters here.

Always thought you were a level-headed poster. Never imagined a perception changing as drastically.

This post is quite evident that it took just one win over a pathetically out of form to team to vent out all that frustration you were piling up for some time. Quite poor stuff.
 
No they're number one for sure, the greatest ODi's sorry i mean cricket playing country in the world.. :) (What i always read of Bangali posters)


India and Pakistan are par in ODI's and this will be proven later in this asia cup, the first match against them was a day off for Pakistan, this is a new team with lots of youngsters in coming months this team will gell and produce more results like the champions trophy

#fake news
 
Always thought you were a level-headed poster. Never imagined a perception changing as drastically.

This post is quite evident that it took just one win over a pathetically out of form to team to vent out all that frustration you were piling up for some time. Quite poor stuff.

Fact hurts - that "one win" comment actually tells where the problem is in your mindset.
 
Bangladesh are missing one high quality fast bowler. They have good spinners and Fizz is good in Asia I guess but decent otherwise.
 
Fact hurts - that "one win" comment actually tells where the problem is in your mindset.

Think you misunderstood me. I really like Bangladesh as a team and as a nation. As a fellow Muslim country, I really want to see Bangladesh do well.

But I was referring to your sudden dig at Team Pakistan. If you had so much to say, then you should've said it when Pakistan were on a good run and not purposely choose a time when the PCT is down.

Also, that one win comment is exactly what your post's timing clearly implies. You said it yourself, that you chose to remain silent and wanted to "return back some compliments so that a lesson is learnt." This quite blatantly portrays that you were just searching for an opportunity to go on an uncalled-for tantrum.

Deep down, you know what I'm talking about. The use of such desperate tactics was quite disappointing, to say the least. Expect better from you.
 
NO.

Bangladesh fans are quite level headed, and they know where there team is - in fact Indian fans as well. It's the PAK fans that needs to come out their superiority complex. More over, you don't know where your cricket stands - dreaming standing on a hollow sand pile and try to get offensive whenever reality bites.

I read few spicy posts from Indian posters against BD as well - that might not be polished or acceptable, but at least they have a point - their team is backing their arrogance, if I put it this way. I don't comment against any Indian poster here unless it goes beyond decency level, because they are the best side in Asia by some margin, and do know where they stand in cricket. More than anyone, Indian posters were shamed for their English tour after so much hype, hence there was absolutely no reason to taunt them - because I knew what it takes for an Asian side to play 5 Test in UK. What you lot do is jumping like goat's 3rd kid after bashing ZIM reserves!!!!

What you guys have apart from boasting on history? With such a hopeless bunch the way you guys jump here, if you had a team remotely close to IND, by now most of non PAK fans would have left PP for your arrogance. Do you ever look at the mirror before pointing finger to others? Even SRL at least has one thing to like about - they have flair, don't play absolute rubbish, outdated, obsolete cricket like your pathetic lot - that opening two overs of 40 years old semi retired Malinga had more skills to show with new ball than what your 6 heroes have shown in entire tournament. Then you come back to taunt about Rubel or Mustafiz's pace!!!!! Your chucker is talking rubbish about how BD players would be scared to look at them on live telecast - this fool went for 8+ when he last time played against BD with a legal action. Like fan, like player.

I can bring some of the posts from the threads of "Bangladesh is still minnows ....", or "how'll win between 5 game series between PAK & BD..." - it'll be shameful for you. Better, you go back there yourself and check what's written there by BD posters & PAK posters.

Before a game, you can taunt your opponents in blogs, may not be classy, but at least that has some reasons - I can bring posts from some PAK idiots before the Nidahas Cup, or from BD-ENG Test series, BD-AUS Test series ...... which had absolutely no reason for PAK posters to take a dig at BD players, let alone talk rubbish.

I had to write personally to few senior Mods here to make sure that some of your lot behaves properly here regarding Bangladesh - and that's not only for cricket section. Hence, still it's some what decent and few loose mouth have been kept in check, otherwise PP won't have been a place for decent people with some taste.

This is the first time, I decided to return back some compliments so that a lesson is learnt & some PAK posters starts behaving properly. Latest funda I read in Nagin dance, which I have explained many times why and I my self am quite relieved that our players didn't repeat it in Asia Cup - purpose wasn't there.

I can bet, I know more history of PAK cricket & players than most posters here - if I start to post some on & off the field antics of past & present PAK players, I can tell you not many of you'll not remain here to post out of shame. Dope, drug, fixing, beating, call girl, in-fight, gambling ...... what not? Your players are officially first to be arrested for possessing drugs and acts under the influence of alcohol - that's 24 years back, in a foreign country and they had to be bailed out from custody. Similar incident had forced a Test to be delayed by one day in SAF - we may never know the details. Your players have been caught by customs for carrying drugs. Recently, one of your player Imad Wasim was banned from BPL - do you know why? If I write the full story, mods will get busy.

I read lots of negative posts regarding BD fans in stadium - some of the most passionate & enthusiastic people in cricket field who love their team & players. Regardless of result or opponent they come to cheer for their team in numbers - but how many BD fans had created stadium disturbance? BD has lost more matches than most teams at home - how many games had to be stopped or abandoned for crowd trouble in Bangladesh? I can write 2 pages on the dirty & violent antics of PAK crowd here with specific date - some of the most uncultured, idiotic acts were the reason for game interruption at Karachi only in many, many times - but do reflect a good taste if each time players, in fact the whole nation is mocked for what was a past incident?

I can go on and that will only rile up PAK posters here - they won't be able to reply as I am stating facts, but result will be desperate attempt to settle scores some times in future - and this has been going on for long. Before writing fancy posts here, have some soul searching and look back in mirror - then come to advise BD posters here.


CT 17 win and drawing Eng series are pretty recent events just like Bng getting bowled out for under 50 twice in one test, losing to Afg 3-0 in T20s and a ODI recently.

Anyways man you live with your beliefs and I will live with mine.

Would be the first to congratulate if Bng reaches the semi finals of the next world cup or wins the series against NZ next year.
 
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Think you misunderstood me. I really like Bangladesh as a team and as a nation. As a fellow Muslim country, I really want to see Bangladesh do well.

But I was referring to your sudden dig at Team Pakistan. If you had so much to say, then you should've said it when Pakistan were on a good run and not purposely choose a time when the PCT is down.

Also, that one win comment is exactly what your post's timing clearly implies. You said it yourself, that you chose to remain silent and wanted to "return back some compliments so that a lesson is learnt." This quite blatantly portrays that you were just searching for an opportunity to go on an uncalled-for tantrum.

Deep down, you know what I'm talking about. The use of such desperate tactics was quite disappointing, to say the least. Expect better from you.

I have posted here long enough for regular posters to know who I am & why such posts here. I risked my reputation here just to make sure that the cycle doesn't return.
 
I have posted here long enough for regular posters to know who I am & why such posts here. I risked my reputation here just to make sure that the cycle doesn't return.
You just set yourself up for a massive troll if Pakistan picks up its performances in the near future. Didn't need to do that tbh. Pakistan's performance has been enough to shut up quite a few posters, like myself, who thought we were better than we are.
 
I have posted here long enough for regular posters to know who I am & why such posts here. I risked my reputation here just to make sure that the cycle doesn't return.

Well, you've been here longer than me so you would know better.

But remember this, if choosing not to voice your true opinions builds a reputation, then that reputation is clearly not worth having. Honestly speaking, those people that are liked more are often those who aren't afraid of their views and don't tone it down, because at least they are being true to themselves. If a person presents a different view to what he actually believes in, then he is, in effect, just fooling himself.

Having said that, I always enjoy reading your stuff.
 
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Wondering what their fans will claim now. Surely getting whitewashed by afg and losing a test against zimb at home is not a good sign.
 
Bangladesh can give other Asian teams a run for their money in tests

On the spin friendly Bangladeshi/UAE wickets, I feel the current Bangladesh side can give Pak/SL (Afghanistan, goes without saying) a run for their money. Their batting has suddenly found depth and have potent spinners to handle unreliable Pak/SL batsmen.

Outside Asia, probably no chance. The likes of Abbas, Hasan, and Lakmal would be too good for the Bangladeshi batsmen. Especially Abbas, who might eat their batsmen alive. Also, Bangladesh still lacks good pace bowlers. Mustafizur being the only exception.
 
On the spin friendly Bangladeshi/UAE wickets, I feel the current Bangladesh side can give Pak/SL (Afghanistan, goes without saying) a run for their money. Their batting has suddenly found depth and have potent spinners to handle unreliable Pak/SL batsmen.

Outside Asia, probably no chance. The likes of Abbas, Hasan, and Lakmal would be too good for the Bangladeshi batsmen. Especially Abbas, who might eat their batsmen alive. Also, Bangladesh still lacks good pace bowlers. Mustafizur being the only exception.

Not again.

Can you please give us respite for a single days? Boys have just finished a good day, but they haven't trolled anyone here.
 
Not again.

Can you please give us respite for a single days? Boys have just finished a good day, but they haven't trolled anyone here.

This is good thing IMO. People be taking Bangladesh seriously.
 
We beat you in last 4 encounters. Recently we beat you in your home ground without our two best players.

We are interior in other formats

Pakistan is an average team in LOIs, but BD are still minnows in all formats.
 
in Tests , no . Personally would like to see a 3 Test series against SL in both home & away conditions to say who is better . That said , SL is really in dumps at the moment .
 
We beat you in last 4 encounters. Recently we beat you in your home ground without our two best players.

We are interior in other formats

Yeah but Pak has a CT trophy, BD don't even have a tri series trophy involving SRL and ZIM.

Still long way to go even in ODIS for BD...
 
Not again.

Can you please give us respite for a single days? Boys have just finished a good day, but they haven't trolled anyone here.

No they will never give us respite. I shall just ignore these posters from now on. I have marked them very well. From now on I shall rather enjoy their jealousy.
 
No they will never give us respite. I shall just ignore these posters from now on. I have marked them very well. From now on I shall rather enjoy their jealousy.

I am doing that from long ago .
 
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When people start hating you, it means you are doing something right
 
Bangladesh are making some good progress these days . In ODIs they have been a competitive and decent team for a while. Now in tests they seem to be improving. They need to ensure they win tests and test series at home. After that they should target to compete and win some games away from home. They are making some good steps.

Bangldesh fans should be proud of the players.
 
Only Aus of 2000s or WI of 80s can stop the BDeshi juggernaut
 
Pakistan tends to be very hot and cold and SL have been going downhill for some time now. This could be BD's time to shine. However, i think they aren't there yet.

Let's look at the ICC rating. Pakistan's Test rating is 95 and BD Test rating is 61. The difference between the two is 34, which is very big. In ODI Pakistan's rating is 102 and BD 93. This time the difference is small but Pakistan is still ahead by 9. In T20Is it's not even close. Pakistan has a rating of 138 while BD only 77. The difference is massive 61. Looking at these ratings, it seems BD is still far behind Pakistan. But, this doesn't mean they aren't narrowing the gap.
 
I guess Sreesanth was right all the way till now, for which even Indian fans like me has always hated him with a passion.

Being hated by your own people? Now that is bad.

What I was pointing out was, the hatred many fans have for teams like India, Pak, Aus. Obviously when a team starts doing well, they get attention, both bad and good. But people focus on the negatives and generally hate on people.

BD have started winning consistently and are making decent progress. And hatred for BD is at an all time high. Obviously, there would be no hatred for BD if they are an associate side barely winning anything. Does that mean BD are good enough? Absolutely not, but slowly we are becoming a significant cricket playing nation, we have good players, good money and super fan base.
 
Bangladesh made a team follow-on?

Has this ever happened before?
 
When people start hating you, it means you are doing something right

And it is particularly true for subcontinent people. It is very difficult to win hearts of people here and we love to criticize more than to appreciate. When players cries in emotion and patriotism they are labelled as cry baby, when they celebrate in joy by dancing they are termed as disgusting and aweful. When they win at home , quality of pitch is questioned. Jealousy, hatred is a composition of our gene.
 
Being hated by your own people? Now that is bad.

What I was pointing out was, the hatred many fans have for teams like India, Pak, Aus. Obviously when a team starts doing well, they get attention, both bad and good. But people focus on the negatives and generally hate on people.

BD have started winning consistently and are making decent progress. And hatred for BD is at an all time high. Obviously, there would be no hatred for BD if they are an associate side barely winning anything. Does that mean BD are good enough? Absolutely not, but slowly we are becoming a significant cricket playing nation, we have good players, good money and super fan base.

The Indian team is disliked by a lot of fans from other nations simply because of the BCCI and a lot of it's obnoxious and arrogant fans, not because of the team itself. And the Australian team has been historically hated because of how obnoxious their players have been on the field.
 
Bhaijaan's top 3 test teams from Indian sub-continent :-

1. India
Exceptionally good at home. Mediocre to pathetic abroad though there have been signs of improvement from the previous touring cycle.
2. Pakistan
Have regressed since the departure of Yoni, Misbah. Losing home tests is terrible. Wins in England are a high point. Pakistan are better travelling test team than India probably, especially in England where test cricket is most difficult.
3. Bangladesh
They have successfully eclipsed Sri Lanka but they are still behind Pakistan.


Hope it helps you all.

Your Bhaijaan
 
I was reading a post by [MENTION=146500]RainMan_[/MENTION] where he claims that BD is 2nd best cricket team in Asia and was quite intrigued by it. For someone who dont follow BD cricket much, I was looking forward their performance in Asia cup based on those claims but got really dissapointed.

I also digged up some stats and BD has lost last 10 matches against India across formats. They also lost last 4 games vs a lower ranked Afg team. Against Pak, their last game was 2 years ago at Eden Gardens and they lost that game as well.

So it really begs the question if Bangladesh really the 2nd best Asian team? If not where do they rank.

Bangladesh is easily the second best odi team in ASIA. In tests we r on par with Pak and SL.

I expect our team to beat Pak and SL if they can play to their full potential. Bngladesh has everything that is required to win tests in Asia. After a long time we have managed to field our main team and look at the result. WI just got blown away.

Our main aim should be now is to maintain our dominance at home and prepare wickets that suit our play style. If we can do that I think will consistently win tests against teams like Aus, NZ, Pak etc. Bangladesh in tests has improved leaps and bounds in last 3/4 years. Its It's a matter of time before we surpass teams like Pak and SL in test and odi ranking.
 
The Indian team is disliked by a lot of fans from other nations simply because of the BCCI and a lot of it's obnoxious and arrogant fans, not because of the team itself. And the Australian team has been historically hated because of how obnoxious their players have been on the field.

Not disagreeing but india is pretty good and it is fun for any side to beat them.
 
The Indian team is disliked by a lot of fans from other nations simply because of the BCCI and a lot of it's obnoxious and arrogant fans, not because of the team itself. And the Australian team has been historically hated because of how obnoxious their players have been on the field.

Yes, I hate India only for BCCI didn't inviting us in India for a full series even after 18 years of getting test status . This is extreme arrogance, obnoxious behaviour to one's closest neighbour.
 
Bangladesh is easily the second best odi team in ASIA. In tests we r on par with Pak and SL.

I expect our team to beat Pak and SL if they can play to their full potential. Bngladesh has everything that is required to win tests in Asia. After a long time we have managed to field our main team and look at the result. WI just got blown away.

Our main aim should be now is to maintain our dominance at home and prepare wickets that suit our play style. If we can do that I think will consistently win tests against teams like Aus, NZ, Pak etc. Bangladesh in tests has improved leaps and bounds in last 3/4 years. Its It's a matter of time before we surpass teams like Pak and SL in test and odi ranking.
In Asia yess in both odi And tests overseas its only Pakistan which is 2nd best. You have to be realistic this Bangladesh side can’t challenge any side in test overseas. I’m odi they are good but Pakistan carries an edge there as well because of better fast bowling.
 
Most important thing about Bangladesh management and team is they play according to their strength and condition while we still play 1.5 spinners in UAE.
 
In Asia yess in both odi And tests overseas its only Pakistan which is 2nd best. You have to be realistic this Bangladesh side can’t challenge any side in test overseas. I’m odi they are good but Pakistan carries an edge there as well because of better fast bowling.

In tests yes. But in ODIs Bangladesh is a formidable side and can beat anyone, anywhere in the world. Frankly speaking, these days most of the teams r rubbish in tests away from home. So, our primary target is becoming a dominant test side at home. If we can do that eventually we will start winning tests away from home as well.
 
I do not see fans of any other team making claims like they are the second best team in Australasia, Europe, Africa etc. It is only Bangladeshi fans who tend to make such claims.

Instead of making subjective claims without any basis, one should use rankings to judge where Bangladesh stands. ICC already has rankings of cricket teams in tests, ODIs and T20. Do not tell us that the subjective rankings of Bangladeshi fans are better than that devised by ICC. If Bangladeshi fans were that good in cricket and in devising cricket rankings, their achievements would have spoken for themselves.
Let us find where Bangladesh stands in Asia in the three formats of cricket. In tests, they are number 4, in ODI they are number 3, in T20 they are number 5. If they are not number 2 in any of the three formats then how can they be overall number 2 in Asia ?

Giving equal weightage to the rankings in three formats, and taking the average, Bangladesh is the fourth best cricketing team in Asia. That is what ICC rankings say. If You are not happy with ICC ranking, they you are free to make your own ranking that gives Bangladesh very high ranking in cricket. Of course no one else is going to recognise your rankings. :srini
 
I think bd are best in asia and one of the top cricket team .

Also now its seems odis ranking are irrelevant as it was not in past for them
 
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Honestly overall we are 3rd at best. 2nd best in ODIs only. That is executioner's opinion on 2/12/2018
 
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