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Is Bangladesh really the second best team in Asia?

Notice not only the whitewash but the margin of the defeats, yet according to most Bangladesh posters they're better than Pakistan in ODIs and hence the second best Asian ODI team. According to [MENTION=146500]RainMan_[/MENTION] they're becoming a powerhouse in world cricket :rp .

As I've said before they need to worry more about Afghanistan, given the number of defeats they've faced against them in LOIs. The gap between these two sides continues to narrow. It's time to close this thread and turn our attention to this discussion.

Don't get me wrong, whenever we play them it'd be very close but I mean this is the same tour where they were utterly humiliated.

I like a lot of BD posters here, Shutdown, Sairj, MMHS (most of the times anyway) so I don't mean to be antagonist but for BD playing rubbish against most teams and then performing better against us in one-off games doesn't make them better at all. Before I remember BD posters used to bring up rankings EVERY SINGLE TIME. Every. Single. Time. Whenever any comparison was made. Now apparently rankings are forgotten as well.
 
I remember one of your posts right after the BD-Pak game in Asia Cup. It will be bumped, this team certainly has the talent to give some of us that opportunity.

Just hope it doesn't get bumped this Wednesday.

Even if it does we have played very well, should have won the second game and were robbed in the 3rd. BD were destroyed in all 3 games.
 
Notice not only the whitewash but the margin of the defeats, yet according to most Bangladesh posters they're better than Pakistan in ODIs and hence the second best Asian ODI team. According to [MENTION=146500]RainMan_[/MENTION] they're becoming a powerhouse in world cricket :rp .

As I've said before they need to worry more about Afghanistan, given the number of defeats they've faced against them in LOIs. The gap between these two sides continues to narrow. It's time to close this thread and turn our attention to this discussion.

In bd/uae they are dangerous side but overseas we have better bowling unit
 
I remember one of your posts right after the BD-Pak game in Asia Cup. It will be bumped, this team certainly has the talent to give some of us that opportunity.

Just hope it doesn't get bumped this Wednesday.

mehdi hasan vs shadab bump by same person
 
I remember one of your posts right after the BD-Pak game in Asia Cup. It will be bumped, this team certainly has the talent to give some of us that opportunity.

Just hope it doesn't get bumped this Wednesday.

You want me to bump your post that suggests BD will compete with PAK if few of you players are rested. I had to remind that Shakib & Tamim were not playing ......
 
mehdi hasan vs shadab another one bump by same person

That was bumped just to remind few poster to make sure that they do know who is Mehedi Hasan Miraz. Some of them didn't ever heard of Mehedi who....
 
Even if it does we have played very well, should have won the second game and were robbed in the 3rd. BD were destroyed in all 3 games.
The post was something along the lines "what has Pakistan cricket really achieved?", and the tone was quite derogatory.

We remember [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]
 
That was bumped just to remind few poster to make sure that they do know who is Mehedi Hasan Miraz. Some of them didn't ever heard of Mehedi who....

There is already single thread of mehdi hasan than why bump shadab vs mehdi .😎
 
The post was something along the lines "what has Pakistan cricket really achieved?", and the tone was quite derogatory.

We remember [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]

No, it wasn't, don't beat about the bush of something along the lines ..... if it's derogatory, bring the exact lines, just like I have quoted you.
 
You want me to bump your post that suggests BD will compete with PAK if few of you players are rested. I had to remind that Shakib & Tamim were not playing ......

Imam has already surpassed Tamim
 
In bd/uae they are dangerous side but overseas we have better bowling unit

The reason why they beat us in the Asia Cup was Sarfraz's woeful captaincy but the total still should have been chased.

In the whitewash series 4 years ago (straight after the 2015 WC), Bangladesh were enjoying their purple patch having also beaten India and SA in the two following bilateral ODI series. Pakistan's team at the time were in a transition phase and looking to rebuild after the mess Misbah left the side in.
 
Don't get me wrong, whenever we play them it'd be very close but I mean this is the same tour where they were utterly humiliated.

I like a lot of BD posters here, Shutdown, Sairj, MMHS (most of the times anyway) so I don't mean to be antagonist but for BD playing rubbish against most teams and then performing better against us in one-off games doesn't make them better at all. Before I remember BD posters used to bring up rankings EVERY SINGLE TIME. Every. Single. Time. Whenever any comparison was made. Now apparently rankings are forgotten as well.

Totally agree.

Not only rankings are forgotten but also remember T20Is don't count.
 
The reason why they beat us in the Asia Cup was Sarfraz's woeful captaincy but the total still should have been chased.

In the whitewash series 4 years ago (straight after the 2015 WC), Bangladesh were enjoying their purple patch having also beaten India and SA in the two following bilateral ODI series. Pakistan's team at the time were in a transition phase and looking to rebuild after the mess Misbah left the side in.

Agree about some point but still think series in asia will be alot closer between the two
 
Asian cup horror is over and getting back to track .See the above result Not a single close game

Meaningless ODI series. In the last two World Cup matches BD is tied with RSA 1-1. We have beaten a legendary RSA team consisting of Smith, AB De Villiers, Khallis, Gibbs, Pollok, Ntini, etc.
 
I was shocked to see Pakistan lose to Bangla in Asia cup.Tbh, the whole tournament was just weird and should be written off. We are much better than that tournie showed.
 
Meaningless ODI series. In the last two World Cup matches BD is tied with RSA 1-1. We have beaten a legendary RSA team consisting of Smith, AB De Villiers, Khallis, Gibbs, Pollok, Ntini, etc.

You're a good poster please don't be another Rainman.

No series is meaningless, I mean after all the 3-0 is what BD fans brag about even though it happened now nearly half a decade ago :))
 
Meaningless ODI series. In the last two World Cup matches BD is tied with RSA 1-1. We have beaten a legendary RSA team consisting of Smith, AB De Villiers, Khallis, Gibbs, Pollok, Ntini, etc.

Ofcourse only 4-0 count in bilaterial

BTW we have beaten them in last 2 icc event counter 2015 worldcup.2017 champion unlike 2007......
 
No, it wasn't, don't beat about the bush of something along the lines ..... if it's derogatory, bring the exact lines, just like I have quoted you.
I will, obviously. Don't you worry. Writing long paragraphs isn't going to save you this time.

And no, you haven't quoted me. Bring the actual quote or keep quiet and wait for a few of us to bring 'that' post :amir2
 
Meaningless ODI series. In the last two World Cup matches BD is tied with RSA 1-1. We have beaten a legendary RSA team consisting of Smith, AB De Villiers, Khallis, Gibbs, Pollok, Ntini, etc.

True colours of the Bangladesh hype brigade coming out.

Given the margin of the defeats in your last series there, there is no doubt you would be 4-0 down!

You're also forgetting Pakistan was the first Asian side to win an ODI series in SA with those star players you named.
 
True colours of the Bangladesh hype brigade coming out.

Given the margin of the defeats in your last series there, there is no doubt you would be 4-0 down!

You're also forgetting Pakistan was the first Asian side to win an ODI series in SA with those star players you named.
No, what does series with RSA have anything to do with Bangladesh?
 
Yes, and very badly and that was even more recent than the 3-0 series :))

Oh dear, that is inexcusable! It seems to me the greater the humiliation the bigger the egos from our Bangladesh posters :ibutt
 
No, what does series with RSA have anything to do with Bangladesh?

You claimed this is a meaningless series to belittle Pakistan's achievements. The sour grapes stems from what you saw with Bangladesh when they were whitewashed and humiliated so badly. Losing by 10 wickets defending 270-280 and losing by 200 runs.

Bangladesh is Afghanistan level in ODIs not second best Asian team.
 
You claimed this is a meaningless series to belittle Pakistan's achievements. The sour grapes stems from what you saw with Bangladesh when they were whitewashed and humiliated so badly. Losing by 10 wickets defending 270-280 and losing by 200 runs.

Bangladesh is Afghanistan level in ODIs not second best Asian team.

I didn't belittle anything. Otherwise, I could have brought up Bangladesh versus RSA series in 2015. Now lets see the overall picture...

RSA tour of Pak 2013-2014-->RSA won by 4-1
RSA tour of BAN 2015--> BAN won by 2-1
BAN tour of RSA 2017--> RSA won by 3-0
Pak tour of RSA 2019(so far)--> Tied 2-2
 
I didn't belittle anything. Otherwise, I could have brought up Bangladesh versus RSA series in 2015. Now lets see the overall picture...

RSA tour of Pak 2013-2014-->RSA won by 4-1
RSA tour of BAN 2015--> BAN won by 2-1
BAN tour of RSA 2017--> RSA won by 3-0
Pak tour of RSA 2019(so far)--> Tied 2-2
Why have you omitted Pakistan's tour of RSA which they were the first Asian team to win?
 
Meaningless ODI series. In the last two World Cup matches BD is tied with RSA 1-1. We have beaten a legendary RSA team consisting of Smith, AB De Villiers, Khallis, Gibbs, Pollok, Ntini, etc.

Meaningless huh? Such arrogance even after winning basically nothing in nearly 3 decades!! Posters like you makes it very hard to appreciate even the good things coming out of BD.
 
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I think the WC match should give a clearer picture but PCT will have a higher ceiling..and also it being in England ,BD might not be able to win.
 
Meaningless huh? Such arrogance even after winning basically nothing in nearly 3 decades.

Exactly and still with their all legendary players are still to win anything overseas except that one of WI ODI series
 
Bangladesh is yet to win a test overseas except maybe in Zim (dont remember) and are yet to win ODIs, they have won under 10 (maybe 5,6) including WI series win and other upsets.

But, some of the posters are making it like they are the best team to ever play cricket.
 
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Bangladesh is slightly better than Pak in Asia while Pak is comfortably better everywhere else, overall Pak is better I think. However the problem with Pak is they don't have talents like Tamim, Shakib or Musfiqur who can win matches on their own and problem with BD is apart from those 3 and probably Fizz the rest are absolute lolburgers.
 
Meaningless ODI series. In the last two World Cup matches BD is tied with RSA 1-1. We have beaten a legendary RSA team consisting of Smith, AB De Villiers, Khallis, Gibbs, Pollok, Ntini, etc.

BD ranks 10, 9, 7 across formats, yet to reach a semi final of any world cup. Yet to win an overseas series except ODI series against WI. Yet to win a home series against any team other than Zim, WI or maybe NZ dont remember)

So what is meaningful in cricket then?
 
I will, obviously. Don't you worry. Writing long paragraphs isn't going to save you this time.

And no, you haven't quoted me. Bring the actual quote or keep quiet and wait for a few of us to bring 'that' post :amir2

I don't want to waste my weekend times to find a silly post, but you do know what you have written there. And, some of your post just before Asia Cup wasn't something that you would like to discuss.

Anyway, some day that thread might be popped again and we'll see.
 
Bangladesh is slightly better than Pak in Asia while Pak is comfortably better everywhere else, overall Pak is better I think. However the problem with Pak is they don't have talents like Tamim, Shakib or Musfiqur who can win matches on their own and problem with BD is apart from those 3 and probably Fizz the rest are absolute lolburgers.

They are competitive in Asia but 1 match or 1 series 4 years ago doesnt prove they are better. They were able to beat Pak, Ind, SA in ODIs one go which was a purple patch.
 
Meaningless huh? Such arrogance even after winning basically nothing in nearly 3 decades!! Posters like you makes it very hard to appreciate even the good things coming out of BD.

What arrogance yaar. You guys are the one who claims ODIs are JAMODIs and are meaningless except World Cups and major tournaments.
 
Is any BD-Pakistan series planned in near future?
 
Exactly and still with their all legendary players are still to win anything overseas except that one of WI ODI series

I have nothing against BD, in fact I want them to be even more competitive for the sake of cricket, but the outlandish claims and arrogance on display here is very hard to ignore, Calling a series meaningless when they hardly get bilateral invites from top teams is delusional.
 
I don't want to waste my weekend times to find a silly post, but you do know what you have written there. And, some of your post just before Asia Cup wasn't something that you would like to discuss.

Anyway, some day that thread might be popped again and we'll see.
Rest assured, it will be.

And it will be fun, don't worry.
 
I have nothing against BD, in fact I want them to be even more competitive for the sake of cricket, but the outlandish claims and arrogance on display here is very hard to ignore, Calling a series meaningless when they hardly get bilateral invites from top teams is delusional.

I have the same feelings regarding BD team, like seeing them improve and youngsters coming through but definitely delusions among some of there fans are surprising to say the least.
 
Pakistan have been equally comparative against Sa in odi series .2-2 is result so far .

This is how bd performed against same Sa last year .one sided odi series .

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That is some hammering. but but Bangla fans logic is Pak have lost last 4 odi's against them,4 out of which were played 4 years ago.
nothing matters to them, not even Champions trophy
 
What's the point of bumping this scores? Now, if a BD poster posts last 4 BD-PAK scorecard, you'll call foul.

3 out those 4 were played years ago,at banlga's home where they r decent.
What if i post head to head record before that??
 
What arrogance yaar. You guys are the one who claims ODIs are JAMODIs and are meaningless except World Cups and major tournaments.

Don't say "You guys" that's a very impolite form of addressing. Of course bilaterals are less important than world cups. But for a team that basically won nothing should treat every series a "Must win". You rarely get invited by SENA teams and instead of being critical of your team for meekly surrender you are calling the series meaningless. I am sorry bhai, if that is not arrogance I don't know what is.

Unlike many posters here I do not have any biases against BD nor do I consider them a minnow, I just call it as I see it.
 
Meaningless ODI series. In the last two World Cup matches BD is tied with RSA 1-1. We have beaten a legendary RSA team consisting of Smith, AB De Villiers, Khallis, Gibbs, Pollok, Ntini, etc.

how many odi's have BD won against SA in SA?? I dont follow BD cricket much honestly as ive never found them exciting. But here i would love to know the stat
 
I don't want to waste my weekend times to find a silly post, but you do know what you have written there. And, some of your post just before Asia Cup wasn't something that you would like to discuss.

Anyway, some day that thread might be popped again and we'll see.

is this it?

What went wrong is arrogance - PAK was planning for final before reaching there, while they were playing against an inspired side that were not ready to leave it without a fight. In short, playing too many shallow cricket both at domestics & international front has made PAK players mentally weak - you challenge them they'll falter. If that 4th wicket was down say for 56, I can safely say, PAK might have started chasing before lunch.

I always say, PAK players play cricket in domestics which are actually lower quality & less competitive than Lancashire league. In past, against BD team, same situation, you would have seen Mushi playing a half cooked shot and make it 120/5 - it would have ended there. Our boys are catching up in the mental aspect of the game - defended a tight game against AFGs, then recover from such position.

Batting is more technical - along with guts/temperament you need technique as well - looking at any PAK batsman, may be apart from Babar sometimes, you'll never feel the comfort that they are in command - almost like always risking to lose a wicket or two - hence against better teams, you'll hardly see a 100+ partnership from PAK. That's not the case for BD batsmen - at least 3 of them; once set Tamim, Mushi & Mahmudullah are quite reliable - PAK just expected that like their batsmen one of the BD batsmen will throw the wicket - they was just going through the motion, until it was too late - Mithun's lack of game awareness and an absolute beauty from Afridi stopped us at 240, instead of 280, from a start of 12/3.

Regarding Sarfraz's Captaincy, I think guy has grown up playing club cricket with buddies, where he must have been a hero from junior age, which has made him quite a good ring leader - very good when chips are up - charming, cheering players, keeping things in control .... but guy is tactical bot, doesn't have much clue what to do when chips are down. Same thing happened yesterday - his bowlers gave a dream start and things were smooth - 2 of the 3 dismissals were absolute pitch of a ball, didn't need any input from Captain .... then when he found that things are getting a bit bumpy, he had absolutely no clue. In general the first sign of Captain losing plot is when he starts to follow the game & asks bowlers what to do, rather than sharing his instructions and then asking for bowler's view.

Mashrafee is tactically good, playing for 15 years now and he has got some of the best coaches around to guide him. In BPL as well he has won 2-3 titles with different set of players in different team. But, yesterday I think what worked is that team's moral & confidence was high - they believed in themselves after such an early escape. I have never seen BD team fielding that good, but more importantly they hold on to catches when it mattered. Business usual, you would have seen Rubel dropping that one & Fakhar smashing 36 in no time within PP bringing asking down to 4 level.

Mash has personality, which Sarfraz doesn't have - players feel ownership in field when they make a mistake under Mash & try to improve ... PAK players are scared of making mistake under Sarfraz (which they might not say openly, I have seen enough to understand body language), this doesn't help team when they are under pressure. Above all, Mash leads from the front within his limited capacity - batted well to put something against IND from 104/7, then took responsibility of bowling in death against AFGs, when he could have easily avoided the risk of losing the game - PAK is trying to accommodate Sarfraz in batting line up and then keeping him comfortable without selecting a back-up WK, or appointing a Deputy. When you need to protect your Captain, how he is going to lead from the front?

On game, Mustafiz bowled really well which helped - he was brought for early wicket and went for the kill, then helped by PAK sending a dummy at 4. Opening with Miraz probably isn't that much of a rocket science as anyone would do so when two lefti in batting and one is a blunt slogger. Taking pace out of ball always works in UAE, more so against a stone waller & a bottom hand butcher. From 18/3, on that wicket - you have to play really, really poor not to defend 240; particularly against PAK, who I am sure would have struggled against HK or Nepal as well to chase that target from 18/3. Had Liton not dropped that sitter, PAK won't have crossed 170.

I wrote few days back that BD team is going through a transition. Hathura being a fantastic coach for us didn't end it well. The way he left for SRL wasn't professional at all & then that Cobra taunt was disgusting from him. He should have realized that, like BD team, success with us also made him what he is today - how many knew Hathurasinghe before BD stint? For almost a year, we had several changes in coach, manager, technical coaches and Captains - finally the back room is settled with long term appointments of key people - Head Coach, batting, pace/spin bowling, fielding coaches, trainer and other support staffs. Hathura actually took 3-4 support staffs with him at his departure and we were at a mess - Walshi, Jorgensen, Champak, Khaled Mahmud ... were serving as make shifts. It was only a matter of time that team should improve from it's rock bottom state of losing 3-0 to AFGs.
 
I suggest all of my Pakbros to stop bickering over this with bangla bros over this. Ranking is an answer in itself and so is the H2H record, ICC silverware. Bengladesh got nothing on this. :rabada
 
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Don't say "You guys" that's a very impolite form of addressing. Of course bilaterals are less important than world cups. But for a team that basically won nothing should treat every series a "Must win". You rarely get invited by SENA teams and instead of being critical of your team for meekly surrender you are calling the series meaningless. I am sorry bhai, if that is not arrogance I don't know what is.

Unlike many posters here I do not have any biases against BD nor do I consider them a minnow, I just call it as I see it.

Bangladesh doesn't get to tour these teams that often. It took you guys countless tours and all these years to finally tackle Australia in Australia. Now, that shouldn't excuse BD poor performance home and away.

Also, a lot of people in BD still thinks and follows football more closely than Cricket. Even, a lot of the Cricketers favorite players are usually Ronaldo's and Messi's.

If indeed BD is same level as AFG as per general consensus of this forum, then why bother bumping such threads when Pak nemesis is India or vice versa.
 
Bangladesh doesn't get to tour these teams that often. It took you guys countless tours and all these years to finally tackle Australia in Australia. Now, that shouldn't excuse BD poor performance home and away.

Exactly the point I am making, for budding Asian teams SENA tours are worth in gold, you are the one calling them meaningless, good to see you coming back to your senses.

Also, a lot of people in BD still thinks and follows football more closely than Cricket. Even, a lot of the Cricketers favorite players are usually Ronaldo's and Messi's.

Whatever that supposed to mean!! Kohli is an avid fan of Ronaldo, Sachin is a Federar fan, don't get the point you are making. If you are trying to say general BD interest is shifting from cricket to football, its clearly wrong and probably a coping mechanism on your part sorry to say.

If indeed BD is same level as AFG as per general consensus of this forum, then why bother bumping such threads when Pak nemesis is India or vice versa.

BD is miles better than AFG in tests and marginally better in ODIs. That's the only two format I care about. Don't take the "General Consensus" of an online board too seriously.

Lastly it is a free forum, you don't dictate what to "Bump" and what not. deal with it. I see you creating stupid threads (My opinion) all the time. Dis it out only when you can take it.
 
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Pak was really disappointing in Asia cup. People can't deny that. Most of these comments were made during that time. The Pak team now looks solid. It's no joke to dominate SA in their den. I for one did not expect it after test series. As far as BD goes, they are always the "nearly" team. Man to man, BD's batting lineup compares with PCT and is even better in a few spots. Tamim, Mushfiq are better than everybody in Pak lineup barring maybe Babar. Bowling is where Pak trumps BD. A series between them will result in Pak victory now. I wouldnt have been sure if this was 6 months ago. Pak has gone to another level in the last 6 months. I don't think BD did the same.
 
First of all I consider this a silly thread since the title starts with question mark regarding Bangladesh being the second best Asian team or not. No and no. Op shouldn’t have put a question mark there since it’s a well-established fact that Bangladesh is the second best odi team in Asia. (Perhaps in tests too)

Now coming back to the topic of the discussion, I found quite a few posts here that make no sense what so ever. In cricket if X beats Y and Y beats Z does not necessarily mean X will beat Z too. That’s not how it works. But since this thread has been bumped with a post like this I will go with the flow.

These were the results of the last two series that Pak played against NZ at home
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This is the result of last odi series that BD has played against NZ at home. See below
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Look at the contrasting performance between these two teams against Newzealand at home. If that does not make the whole scenario clearer to u then look at how Bangladesh thrashed Pak in last 4/5 odis they have played against them. Look at how Pak got smashed by a second string BD side at their home ground. As a matter of fact its better to find out which is the best team based on their head to head record instead of looking at their performance against a third team.

However even if we take a third variable( in this case Newzealand), we will see that Bangladesh is easily the better team. In last 3/4 years Bangladesh is Playing a different level of cricket and they have certainly cemented their position as the second best team from Asia.
 
Bangladesh is yet to win a test overseas except maybe in Zim (dont remember) and are yet to win ODIs, they have won under 10 (maybe 5,6) including WI series win and other upsets.

But, some of the posters are making it like they are the best team to ever play cricket.

Then u should try a bit harder to remember things.

Bangladesh has already won a test series in west indies and whitewashed them as well as drew a series against Srilanka in Srilanka ( the same team that whitewashed Pak in UAE).

Anyway, it usually takes years for cricket teams to perform consistently in away matches. Dont forget the fact that even 20 years haven't even passed since Bangladesh has started playing test cricket. U will understand how difficult it is for new teams to perform in tests especially in away tests if i give u couple of examples. India could not manage to win a single test series in their first 20 years of cricket, Pak still have not managed to win a single test series in Sa or Aus even though they have been playing cricket for close to 70/80 years.

Compared to these examples BD have already won and drew test series against Eng, SA, NZ, WI etc even though 20 years back we did not even have a proper first class structure. Just imagine what we would have achieved if we had been playing cricket for 70/80 years like IND or Pak
 
Bangladesh has improved leaps and bound but their fans must understand that the encounters we face over the years come across small windows of time.

I would back PAK to beat BD in T20's and Tests regardless of venue but the ODI series could go to the wire. A one-off win in the Asia Cup does not change my opinion that BD is still the third best team to come out of Asia.
 
[MENTION=54257]rainman[/MENTION] you seems to de desperate to inculde 2010 .let me post 2010 result of pakistan tour of newzealand we beaten them in both test 2-1and odi series 3-2.you logic is absurd try harder.:faf
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Bangladesh are a good white ball team but I don't think they are better than Pakistan at the moment.
 
Then u should try a bit harder to remember things.

Bangladesh has already won a test series in west indies and whitewashed them as well as drew a series against Srilanka in Srilanka ( the same team that whitewashed Pak in UAE).

Anyway, it usually takes years for cricket teams to perform consistently in away matches. Dont forget the fact that even 20 years haven't even passed since Bangladesh has started playing test cricket. U will understand how difficult it is for new teams to perform in tests especially in away tests if i give u couple of examples. India could not manage to win a single test series in their first 20 years of cricket, Pak still have not managed to win a single test series in Sa or Aus even though they have been playing cricket for close to 70/80 years.

Compared to these examples BD have already won and drew test series against Eng, SA, NZ, WI etc even though 20 years back we did not even have a proper first class structure. Just imagine what we would have achieved if we had been playing cricket for 70/80 years like IND or Pak

Say whatever you want to say Rainman, but truth is BD can only play on slow low turning tracks. Thats why BD fans always have to fall back to their home record of last few years.
I hope Bangla cricket starts winning games of significance away from home, it will be good for cricket
 
ICC rankings tell us which team stands where vis a vis other teams.

According to ICC rankings, Bangladesh is fourth best test team in Asia, third best ODI team in Asia and fifth best T20 team in Asia.

Bangladesh has won a few matches against Pakistan in ODI of late, but winning of these matches have by no means taken their ranking above Pakistan. This delusion that defeating a higher ranked team makes your team go above that team in ranking need to be dispelled. It is consistent performance over three years that decides a team's ranking, not occasional wins.
 
Pak is better away side but Bangladesh and Pak ODI match will be fun to watch under Sarfarz leadership :asad1
 
"second best Asian side"

Don't start it again - 26th SEP 2018 should have been enough for some of you. And yes, they day BD scored 15/6 after 16 overs in NZ, in a series saver - you can come back to troll here. I don't want to bring PAK's tour of NZ a year back, but don't you guys have any shame to play this hide & seek game every time BD plays?
 
Remind me, how did Pakistan do in their ODI series last time in New Zealand?

That was a disappointing series but we I think that was mainly because our boys got overconfident after champions trophy win (new zealand series was straight after champions trophy), However, I believe, the current pakistan team is much better side and will give much tougher competition.
 
Remind me, how did Pakistan do in their ODI series last time in New Zealand?

But isnt the 2nd best side in Asia supposed to do better? Though series is on, but you expect them to do better as they are supposedly better.
 
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But isnt the 2nd best side in Asia supposed to do better? Though series is on, but you expect them to do better as they are supposedly better.

Actually no. If the 3rd team gets 35 out of 100, to be 2nd, you don't need to score 85 ..... 36 is enough. But, it'll be shame worthy if 2nd best team scores 15/6 in 16 overs and then end up 31-9, only for fielding captain availing some mercy to reach 70+ chasing 250+ in a series saver.

I understand that the discussion is turning distasteful, but don't blame BD posters for that. I thought, some of my posts around 26th SEP 2018 would make BD game threads more enjoyable in PP, but unfortunately I was wrong.
 
Actually no. If the 3rd team gets 35 out of 100, to be 2nd, you don't need to score 85 ..... 36 is enough. But, it'll be shame worthy if 2nd best team scores 15/6 in 16 overs and then end up 31-9, only for fielding captain availing some mercy to reach 70+ chasing 250+ in a series saver.

I understand that the discussion is turning distasteful, but don't blame BD posters for that. I thought, some of my posts around 26th SEP 2018 would make BD game threads more enjoyable in PP, but unfortunately I was wrong.

So BD will win 1 match in the ODI series?
 
Actually no. If the 3rd team gets 35 out of 100, to be 2nd, you don't need to score 85 ..... 36 is enough. But, it'll be shame worthy if 2nd best team scores 15/6 in 16 overs and then end up 31-9, only for fielding captain availing some mercy to reach 70+ chasing 250+ in a series saver.

I understand that the discussion is turning distasteful, but don't blame BD posters for that. I thought, some of my posts around 26th SEP 2018 would make BD game threads more enjoyable in PP, but unfortunately I was wrong.
Oh yes some of us do remember those posts. And Pakistaan is volatile enough to bump those posts. You will enjoy them in the near future, let me re-assure you.
 
So BD will win 1 match in the ODI series?

It's not necessary, you know. Mathematically 0-3 is better than 0-5, you know - though logically it's both clean sweep. This Kiwi series isn't good for trolling BD by PAK posters - we have a 7-0 run against them at home and have won last 2 ODIs in UK .... PAK to their credit did break the 12 game LLLLLLLLLLL run in last game.

I had may fair assessment of the game in my first post here, but as I wrote "that time" - PP lives by the day. I'll go down to whatever level it requires to match any trolling ... then, if required I'll go AWOL for few days. Don't think PP will be poorer without my "expert analysis" on cricket - trolling is more enjoyable.
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It's not necessary, you know. Mathematically 0-3 is better than 0-5, you know - though logically it's both clean sweep. This Kiwi series isn't good for trolling BD by PAK posters - we have a 7-0 run against them at home and have won last 2 ODIs in UK .... PAK to their credit did break the 12 game LLLLLLLLLLL run in last game.

I had may fair assessment of the game in my first post here, but as I wrote "that time" - PP lives by the day. I'll go down to whatever level it requires to match any trolling ... then, if required I'll go AWOL for few days. Don't think PP will be poorer without my "expert analysis" on cricket - trolling is more enjoyable.
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Love the spirit but we will.miss your expert analysis. You can provide your analysis while trolling:))
 
Oh yes some of us do remember those posts. And Pakistaan is volatile enough to bump those posts. You will enjoy them in the near future, let me re-assure you.

I did enjoy for few days after PAK made it 2-2 against SAF reserves, but problem is your team is too ordinary to sustain those enjoyable days .... it evaporated by 3rd day. I don't mind being AWOL for 2-3 days, so no issues.
 
I did enjoy for few days after PAK made it 2-2 against SAF reserves, but problem is your team is too ordinary to sustain those enjoyable days .... it evaporated by 3rd day. I don't mind being AWOL for 2-3 days, so no issues.

Pak with their ordinary side won the same amount of ODIs in that overseas tour alone that BD has won in their history of overseas bilateral tours excluding WI, Zim and Ire.
 
Pak with their ordinary side won the same amount of ODIs in that overseas tour alone that BD has won in their history of overseas bilateral tours excluding WI, Zim and Ire.

True. This figure will change in future. Like after probably 500 losses, BD has a 4-0 against PAK in last 4 years (actually 4-1, we have to consider that practice game as well - PAK was in practice mood, but BD put their heart & soul to win that).
 
True. This figure will change in future. Like after probably 500 losses, BD has a 4-0 against PAK in last 4 years (actually 4-1, we have to consider that practice game as well - PAK was in practice mood, but BD put their heart & soul to win that).

I don't understand why PAK posters are too concerned with BD. They should be looking at what IND is doing. IND destroyed both RSA and NZ with ease.
 
I don't understand why PAK posters are too concerned with BD. They should be looking at what IND is doing. IND destroyed both RSA and NZ with ease.

Lol. It's because Pak fans want to discredit Indian win over NZ and were hoping for a BD win as they hoped for SL to triumph over AUS in the test series. All the comments you see on BD is because they are disappointed with BD:))
 
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