Is Bangladesh really the second best team in Asia?

[Titan24]

True. This figure will change in future. Like after probably 500 losses, BD has a 4-0 against PAK in last 4 years (actually 4-1, we have to consider that practice game as well - PAK was in practice mood, but BD put their heart & soul to win that).

Kudos for that however other than that purple patch of 2016 where BD won 3 series in a row against Pak, Ind and SA there isnt much to rave about.

If we are talking about future the stat you mentioned is also gonna change.

I like BD team and their players however the comparison and hype which some BD fans create without much actual performances is mind boggling.

 

[MMHS]

Lol. It's because Pak fans want to discredit Indian win over NZ and were hoping for a BD win as they hoped for SL to triumph over AUS in the test series. All the comments you see on BD is because they are disappointed with BD

NO - it's insecurity. Someone with single digit IQ should realize that it'll make him a laughing stalk comparing PAK with IND cricket team - they won't go that route. Deep down the heart posters do know where world cricket stands now and where respective teams stand - at least someone spending 2-3 hours in PakPassion should know that. I for one exactly know where our cricket stands and for that, even on the day of 43 all-out, I boldly predicted that when WIN comes back for a return series in winter - they'll receive their due ....... most PAK posters do know their cricket as well.

Some of the posts in BD game thread actually establishes something I wrote few years back - "if this trend continues, in future AFG will replace IND as PAK's regional derby ..... and BD will replace as emotional derby...." You are going through that phase now.

I have said many times that PAK is like my 2nd team (old PAK was 1st team), but that doesn't mean I don't understand cricket.

 

[MMHS]

Kudos for that however other than that purple patch of 2016 where BD won 3 series in a row against Pak, Ind and SA there isnt much to rave about.

If we are talking about future the stat you mentioned is also gonna change.

I like BD team and their players however the comparison and hype which some BD fans create without much actual performances is mind boggling.

No BD fan hypes their player at PP, I spend enough time here - I browse my FB account once in a month, may be twice, so don't know what happens there .... but here most BD posters do understand their cricket. I rather say the type of long, high & triple jump I see here from PAK posters for Shadab, Faheem, Sarfraz, Fakhar, Imad .... I wonder what they would have done had Tamim, Shakib or Mushi were playing in other green ..... probably you got the clue.

For your convenience, I can waste some of my time and post you several links from just before Asia Cup ....... don't think that'll be required - memory of the "aftermath" of that 3rd T20 win against Jr. Dala's SAF should be fresh enough.

 

[aloo paratha]

Remind me, how did Pakistan do in their ODI series last time in New Zealand?

So I should base my opinion on how my side did over a year ago?

If you want to play that game, I'll ask you a question, how did your team do last time they toured south africa?

 

[Titan24]

No BD fan hypes their player at PP, I spend enough time here - I browse my FB account once in a month, may be twice, so don't know what happens there .... but here most BD posters do understand their cricket. I rather say the type of long, high & triple jump I see here from PAK posters for Shadab, Faheem, Sarfraz, Fakhar, Imad .... I wonder what they would have done had Tamim, Shakib or Mushi were playing in other green ..... probably you got the clue.

For your convenience, I can waste some of my time and post you several links from just before Asia Cup ....... don't think that'll be required - memory of the "aftermath" of that 3rd T20 win against Jr. Dala's SAF should be fresh enough.

Agreed, but exaggeration and hype fromo Pak posters cant justify the same things from fans of other teams.

Personally I would like everyone to remain grounded, talk about the game and enjoy the game.

 

[MMHS]

So I should base my opinion on how my side did over a year ago?

If you want to play that game, I'll ask you a question, how did your team do last time they toured south africa?

He is Indian, and his team did damn good. But, I can respond your question being Bangladeshi - we were damn ordinary in ODI against a SAF team that had AdV & Kock firing, Morkel & Rabada as well. But, we kept them in Test for 4 days both time .... probably got the clue. And, how did your team do last time they toured BD?

 

[saeed5646]

He is Indian, and his team did damn good. But, I can respond your question being Bangladeshi - we were damn ordinary in ODI against a SAF team that had AdV & Kock firing, Morkel & Rabada as well. But, we kept them in Test for 4 days both time .... probably got the clue. And, how did your team do last time they toured BD?

bd has such a embarrassing one sided odi series in sa that i can not even post scorecard .BTW pakistan have beaten much stronger sa side in there home .

did you said your team kept them for 4 days in a test.I think you need to see scorecard both time Sa batted first and score 400+ that is why test goes to 4 day.

 

[MMHS]

bd has such a embarrassing one sided odi series in sa that i can not even post scorecard .BTW pakistan have beaten much stronger sa side in there home .

did you said your team kept them for 4 days in a test.I think you need to see scorecard both time Sa batted first and score 400+ that is why test goes to 4 day.

Try the BD-PAK series of 2015 ... you'll find your match.

Long back, in WSC they introduced bonus points to register humiliating defeats officially - either you chase inside 40 overs or win by 20% margin, you get one extra point - BD did that 3 times with the cost of 11 wickets in total out of 30 .... indeed you should feel embarrassed to post the scorecards.

 

[saeed5646]

Try the BD-PAK series of 2015 ... you'll find your match.

Long back, in WSC they introduced bonus points to register humiliating defeats officially - either you chase inside 40 overs or win by 20% margin, you get one extra point - BD did that 3 times with the cost of 11 wickets in total out of 30 .... indeed you should feel embarrassed to post the scorecards.

parple patch is over buddy it is not 2015 .not a single main player is playing currently from pakistan from that squad if you want to bring in the asia cup we were that terrible that afghanistan was very close to beating us .

What ever does that mean but your denial won.t change a fact .Sa humiliated your team in that test series

South Africa won by 333 runs

South Africa won by an innings and 254 runs

 

[rhony]

parple patch is over buddy it is not 2015 .not a single main player is playing currently from pakistan from that squad if you want to bring in the asia cup we were that terrible that afghanistan was very close to beating us .

What ever does that mean but your denial won.t change a fact .Sa humiliated your team in that test series

South Africa won by 333 runs

South Africa won by an innings and 254 runs

Agree with most of your points usually about Pak team. But did you notice one pattern? Whenever Pak team was expected to win and are favorites, they lost. This includes NZ series right after CT, Asia cup, 1st game vs NZ in UAE. Whenever they were expected to lose, they won. CT, SA series ( despite scoreline, I believe Pak was dominant vs SA in ODIs), NZ 2nd game. It indicates pressure when there are expectations.

 

[MMHS]

parple patch is over buddy it is not 2015 .not a single main player is playing currently from pakistan from that squad if you want to bring in the asia cup we were that terrible that afghanistan was very close to beating us .

What ever does that mean but your denial won.t change a fact .Sa humiliated your team in that test series

South Africa won by 333 runs

South Africa won by an innings and 254 runs

You did over come your embarrassment and posted the 3 ODI scorecards the moment you got a little chance - aka, the day PAK made it 2-2 .... I don't think I need to post the link. Now here trying to act smart, which is an embarrassing desperation to be honest. I don't have the taste to post last NZ-PAK 5 match series score card here.

SAF can't humiliate us in Test series now, because the result is expected and BD is credited or discredited for that - but no BD poster come here to put some else down and then get owned.

 

[saeed5646]

Agree with most of your points usually about Pak team. But did you notice one pattern? Whenever Pak team was expected to win and are favorites, they lost. This includes NZ series right after CT, Asia cup, 1st game vs NZ in UAE. Whenever they were expected to lose, they won. CT, SA series ( despite scoreline, I believe Pak was dominant vs SA in ODIs), NZ 2nd game. It indicates pressure when there are expectations.

Uae is grave yard .Pak is yet to find a code to win odi series in uae against top side(in uae we rarely play agianst top side aus will play odi series after 6 year in uae).We were very close to beating nz but rain ruin us badly.We miss opportunity against sa which was there for taking but we could not capitalize

It is alot to do with inexperience of side .they will come better with time and will cash in crunch moments

 

[MMHS]

hint hint( BD lasted 4 day in test in sa) if you want to take jibe at pak test team do it properly because your math is all over place.Pak fare better than your team in test against sa.

Pakistan did lost a series 5-0 so did you did you team lost 3-0 not long ago

No, you do your maths properly - before CDEF .... try to digest the AB first - 3 games, 3 bonus points, 11 wickets in total ..... and here you came to show your embarrassment after posting those scorecards just few days back at the first chance

No body considers BD even 3rd best Test team in Asia, therefore clutching on to that SAF series is your last resort. I hope you'll stop here - Kiwis will take 3 hours to finish it and I'll watch till last ball to respond you. Remember - I didn't start and I won't quit either; your mouth is too loud for your team; I myself was a big PAK fan of old days for that I have wrote many, many essays here in PP .... but boasting for these bunch that too to put down someone else is not only distasteful, foolish as well - you haven't learnt anything from Asia Cup.

 

[saeed5646]

No, you do your maths properly - before CDEF .... try to digest the AB first - 3 games, 3 bonus points, 11 wickets in total ..... and here you came to show your embarrassment after posting those scorecards just few days back at the first chance

No body considers BD even 3rd best Test team in Asia, therefore clutching on to that SAF series is your last resort. I hope you'll stop here - Kiwis will take 3 hours to finish it and I'll watch till last ball to respond you. Remember - I didn't start and I won't quit either; your mouth is too loud for your team; I myself was a big PAK fan of old days for that I have wrote many, many essays here in PP .... but boasting for these bunch that too to put down someone else is not only distasteful, foolish as well - you haven't learnt anything from Asia Cup.

so typical of you running away from the question and diverting the topic.I have no idea why you guys are always cry baby when any body shows you the mirror .if you follow the same what you preach other will be great because trust me no body is interested in your team if you guys stop making fun of other team.

My mouth is too loud because my team have alot to offer and have give me happiness recently by giving me icc event i hope your team will give you one so you can feel the same joy.

 

[shah_1]

Bangladesh and Pakistan fans are fighting who is better

Both teams are average, no point debating.

 

[MMHS]

so typical of you running away from the question and diverting the topic.I have no idea why you guys are always cry baby when any body shows you the mirror .if you follow the same what you preach other will be great because trust me no body is interested in your team if you guys stop making fun of other team.

My mouth is too loud because my team have alot to offer and have give me happiness recently by giving me icc event i hope your team will give you one so you can feel the same joy.

There are more Indian & Pakistani in this thread itself to prove their interest, you don't need to beat that maths.

No, I am not running from the question, and that's not my style as well - rather, I forced you to divert from the topic after being "embarrassed".

It started from the "2nd best team of Asia" ..... for which some how you felt embarrassed to post a scorecard here that you did less than two weeks back ... then when I showed you my maths, you ran to Test cricket.

Now, let's come to the topic - ODI cricket and SAF-BD, BD_PAK and NZ-PAK series - let's see which is more embarrassing. I can guarantee you that I won't run away.

 

[MMHS]

Bangladesh and Pakistan fans are fighting who is better

Both teams are average, no point debating.

No, Bangladesh fan is not fighting, and not debating either - but gone are the days of bullying from unworthy arrogance. Pick 10 neutrals and ask them whom they'll watch - Sarfarz's Imam, MoHa, Malik, Shadab, Faheem marka Pakiastan or this Bangladesh side ....... then you think someone will show me the mirror and I'll digest that!!!!

The best medicine of unworthy arrogance is to expose the bully in the middle of the market - nothing to debate here. So much ranked 1 team celebrated like kids in 3rd T20I after 0-2, against SAF reserves and their fans celebrated that for 3 days ....... and here you think I am debating to prove a point!!!!!

 

[Usman Chadda]

I did enjoy for few days after PAK made it 2-2 against SAF reserves, but problem is your team is too ordinary to sustain those enjoyable days .... it evaporated by 3rd day. I don't mind being AWOL for 2-3 days, so no issues.

Where's the fun if you're willing to go AWOL for any period of time? Remind me, how many matches have Bangladesh won in South Africa in their 'ordinary' history so far?

 

[MMHS]

Where's the fun if you're willing to go AWOL for any period of time? Remind me, how many matches have Bangladesh won in South Africa in their 'ordinary' history so far?

Zero - but, we don't boast for our talunt either. Remind me how many matches PAK won in their AUS tour of 2010 in their "GLORIOUS" history?

 

[saeed5646]

There are more Indian & Pakistani in this thread itself to prove their interest, you don't need to beat that maths.

you did provoke pakistani and have successfully give it a air to topic so it have reach there .the reason bd fans are not there is bd is not doing well

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I am not running from the question, and that's not my style as well - rather, I forced you to divert from the topic after being "embarrassed".

well if you want to take jibe this is what will happen bd todays embarrassing performance is taken toll on you

It started from the "2nd best team of Asia" ..... for which some how you felt embarrassed to post a scorecard here that you did less than two weeks back ... then when I showed you my maths, you ran to Test cricket.

LOL MATH.i will give a point to even comparing bd pak performance in sa test series.

Now, let's come to the topic - ODI cricket and SAF-BD, BD_PAK and NZ-PAK series - let's see which is more embarrassing. I can guarantee you that I won't run away.

SA-PAK is out of reach for bd i don,t know they will be invited again or not.BD last four odi matches in nz LLLL so embrassment of 90% is already completed.

 

[light]

so typical of you running away from the question and diverting the topic.I have no idea why you guys are always cry baby when any body shows you the mirror .if you follow the same what you preach other will be great because trust me no body is interested in your team if you guys stop making fun of other team.

My mouth is too loud because my team have alot to offer and have give me happiness recently by giving me icc event i hope your team will give you one so you can feel the same joy.

What is with you and always trying to attack the b'deshi fans? Have seen you do this countless of times here. Shame really ... However, I rarely see you do it to us Indians. Like picking on the small guys?

 

[saeed5646]

What is with you and always trying to attack the b'deshi fans? Have seen you do this countless of times here. Shame really ... However, I rarely see you do it to us Indians. Like picking on the small guys?

don,t jump to bandwagon if you don,t know the actual argument.i wish you could add something more to pp instead of regularly quoting me of same question again and again

 

[MMHS]

you did provoke pakistani and have successfully give it a air to topic so it have reach there .the reason bd fans are not there is bd is not doing well

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well if you want to take jibe this is what will happen bd todays embarrassing performance is taken toll on you



LOL MATH.i will give a point to even comparing bd pak performance in sa test series.



SA-PAK is out of reach for bd i don,t know they will be invited again or not.BD last four odi matches in nz LLLL so embrassment of 90% is already completed.

So, you are giving maths from SAF-PAK & SAF-BD ... instead of BD-PAK .... interesting equation indeed.

Rest part is your childish desperation - there was no need to be embarrassed to post those score cards after doing that embarrassment to yourself just about 10 days back.

 

[light]

don,t jump to bandwagon if you don,t know the actual argument.i wish you could add something more to pp instead of regularly quoting me of same question again and again

I wish you would be more welcoming to outsiders. Your point of views, majority of the time when BD is involved is blantly disrespectful. You may not realize this, but fans like you are the reason why outsiders feels unwelcoming here, espacially BD fans.

 

[saeed5646]

So, you are giving maths from SAF-PAK & SAF-BD ... instead of BD-PAK .... interesting equation indeed.

Rest part is your childish desperation - there was no need to be embarrassed to post those score cards after doing that embarrassment to yourself just about 10 days back.

if current pakistan team was same as 2015 i would have given you benefit of doubt but the bd is also not the same and had hard fought series against zim at home .Alot have change since than

 

[saeed5646]

I wish you would be more welcoming to outsiders. Your point of views, majority of the time when BD is involved is blantly disrespectful. You may not realize this, but fans like you are the reason why outsiders feels unwelcoming here, espacially BD fans.

i think mod is there for exact reason .My post are always counter argument which is started not by me

 

[MMHS]

I wish you would be more welcoming to outsiders. Your point of views, majority of the time when BD is involved is blantly disrespectful. You may not realize this, but fans like you are the reason why outsiders feels unwelcoming here, espacially BD fans.

It'll change - trust me. This is my 9th year here and I am a true lover of the game regardless of nationality, race or religion. I used to avoid most of the trolling, but there has to be an end. Fans of this Sarfraz marka Pakistan have to be more humble and respectful to others. No one bothers if they think Faheem Ashraf can make most teams as 2nd pacer or their 50+ averaging top 3 is creating some history, or Usman Khan is the best thing since sliced bread ..... but, no one can come here to disrespect any team.

I have fixed many big mouths, but never had to fix such equally matched with arrogance & shamelessness - it'll take time, but it'll happen - PAK team is good enough to back me here. And, I am quite clear about where I stand as a cricket fan or where BD cricket stands - I come here to enjoy cricket and cricket discussions - won't allow few arrogant fools to spoil my fun.

 

[light]

i think mod is there for exact reason .My post are always counter argument which is started not by me

The countless amount of quotes you quote me on gets deleted ... I wonder why

anyways back to cricket

 

[MMHS]

if current pakistan team was same as 2015 i would have given you benefit of doubt but the bd is also not the same and had hard fought series against zim at home .Alot have change since than

Now, you have come to line, good. Yes, beating a side 3 times in 7 days with bonus points and at the cost of 35% resources (11 out of 30 wickets, I have rounded that, don't catch my maths here) doesn't happen every series unless the opponents are genuine minnows. And, lots have changed indeed - that time PAK was making Asia Cup finals in Asia and did beat IND in an Asia Cup game .... now IND is winning twice at the cost of 3 wickets & keeping 35 overs at reserve.

However, I guess you are talking about ODI here (otherwise that "2nd best" comment becomes redundant) - and you are correct indeed : ZIM did give a better fight against BD than the mighty PAK side few months back, so future is bright indeed. And, your equation is again perfect one - instead of direct arithmetic of BD-PAK, it's again Calculus through ZIM-PAK & ZIM-BD.

 

[saeed5646]

I have fixed many big mouths, but never had to fix such equally matched with arrogance & shamelessness - it'll take time, but it'll happen - PAK team is good enough to back me here. And, I am quite clear about where I stand as a cricket fan or where BD cricket stands - I come here to enjoy cricket and cricket discussions - won't allow few arrogant fools to spoil my fun.

some of your big mouth and in past .we won,t forget buddy atleast i have not made such a big statements

Mashrafe Mortaza is better odi bowler than any pakistani bowler (before champions trophy)

Pakistan will play qulaifer for 2019 world cup.

in 2021 pakistan will reach same level as afghansitan

 

[saeed5646]

Now, you have come to line, good. Yes, beating a side 3 times in 7 days with bonus points and at the cost of 35% resources (11 out of 30 wickets,

explain what are you on about?

have rounded that, don't catch my maths here) doesn't happen every series unless the opponents are genuine minnows. And, lots have changed indeed - that time PAK was making Asia Cup finals in Asia and did beat IND in an Asia Cup game .... now IND is winning twice at the cost of 3 wickets & keeping 35 overs at reserve.

However, I guess you are talking about ODI here (otherwise that "2nd best" comment becomes redundant) - and you are correct indeed : ZIM did give a better fight against BD than the mighty PAK side few months back, so future is bright indeed. And, your equation is again perfect one - instead of direct arithmetic of BD-PAK, it's again Calculus through ZIM-PAK & ZIM-BD

Man you goes around circle and then bring back asia cup .I have told you asia cup was disastrous even afghanistan do give us tough fight.Pakistan is 2nd best because ranking do suggest that(unforuntaley you wish of 4-1 of sa did not come true we won,t be drop to 6th or 7th)

misbah led side did drop a odi against zim but did you watch how we annihilated them recently in there home .Current team is not the same it was of 2015

 

[MMHS]

some of your big mouth and in past .we won,t forget buddy atleast i have not made such a big statements

Mashrafe Mortaza is better odi bowler than any pakistani bowler (before champions trophy)

Pakistan will play qulaifer for 2019 world cup.

in 2021 pakistan will reach same level as afghansitan

Again we are back to twisting word - no, you are lying.

It was never 2019 - rather I did say that if there isn't a major re-engineering in PAK domestics, by 2023 WC, PAK might have to play qualifiers with Kenya & AFGs for WC. To my credit your boards had to hide even in 2017 to avoid that as early as in 2019.

No - I never said by 2021 PAK will reach AFGs level. Rather I said in few years time, AFGs will replace IND as PAK's neighboring rival - even I never thought that few means 2018 .... and you are giving me 3 years buffer!!!!

No - I didn't say Mash is better ODI bowler than any PAK pacer - that little cricket understanding I have, trust me. What I said is that, we can mock Mash, but he is still highest ranked ODI pacer than anyone from PAK, which is a fact - you can check the ICC Bowling ranking that that time.

.... a little "twist" in word - amazing how the math changes.

 

[saeed5646]

Again we are back to twisting word - no, you are lying.

It was never 2019 - rather I did say that if there isn't a major re-engineering in PAK domestics, by 2023 WC, PAK might have to play qualifiers with Kenya & AFGs for WC. To my credit your boards had to hide even in 2017 to avoid that as early as in 2019.

No - I never said by 2021 PAK will reach AFGs level. Rather I said in few years time, AFGs will replace IND as PAK's neighboring rival - even I never thought that few means 2018 .... and you are giving me 3 years buffer!!!!

No - I didn't say Mash is better ODI bowler than any PAK pacer - that little cricket understanding I have, trust me. What I said is that, we can mock Mash, but he is still highest ranked ODI pacer than anyone from PAK, which is a fact - you can check the ICC Bowling ranking that that time.

.... a little "twist" in word - amazing how the math changes.

And all of them prove wrong .This is what actually called big mouth and arrogance ,i hope you do understand .

 

[MMHS]

explain what are you on about?

Man you goes around circle and then bring back asia cup .I have told you asia cup was disastrous even afghanistan do give us tough fight.Pakistan is 2nd best because ranking do suggest that(unforuntaley you wish of 4-1 of sa did not come true we won,t be drop to 6th or 7th)

misbah led side did drop a odi against zim but did you watch how we annihilated them recently in there home .Current team is not the same it was of 2015

No - my wish is PAK to drop to 10th to see the reaction of PP, so don't talk about my wish next time. And, I predicted 4-1, with a note that I am confused between 3-2 or 4-1 .... never thought that your dynamic Captain will be shown the door or SAF will rest half of their squad before WC.

And, I am not fool actually - you can check back my post on Ranking situation depending on PAK-SAF and IND-AUS series ..... it was never a risk of dropping down even at 6th, which I explained why.

You indeed annihilated ZIM reserves, I do agree - hope you'll do that again with Taylor, Sikandar & Jarvis back. Good luck for that - it'll be an achievement indeed.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Can somebody tell me what is the Head-to-Head record of Bangladesh vs Pakistan in the last 5 LOI encounters?

 

[saeed5646]

No - my wish is PAK to drop to 10th to see the reaction of PP, so don't talk about my wish next time. And, I predicted 4-1, with a note that I am confused between 3-2 or 4-1 .... never thought that your dynamic Captain will be shown the door or SAF will rest half of their squad before WC.

And, I am not fool actually - you can check back my post on Ranking situation depending on PAK-SAF and IND-AUS series ..... it was never a risk of dropping down even at 6th, which I explained why.

You indeed annihilated ZIM reserves, I do agree - hope you'll do that again with Taylor, Sikandar & Jarvis back. Good luck for that - it'll be an achievement indeed.

i will not wish anything like that for bd .HAHAHAHAHAHHA which SA player was rested faf was ban indeed youhave sour grapes.icc predictor is there for eveyone your extra ordinary math skills is not needed

Did not SA rested key player bd odi series in 2015 did you question that series win?not pak fault if zim have internal issues .jarvis was injured btw

 

[MMHS]

I will not wish anything like that for bd .HAHAHAHAHAHHA which SA player was rested faf was ban indeed youhave sour grapes.icc predictor is there for eveyone your extra ordinary math skills is not needed

Did not SA rested key player bd odi series in 2015 did you question that series win?

They did - AB & Styen didn't play. Difference is, still it was predicted that SAF is going to smash BD ... the purple patch is over. And, it went to embarrassing level after 1st ODI.

You don't know which SAF players were rested - really? And Faf was banned - I didn't know that, must have called PAK players brown then.

 

[Banter]

So I should base my opinion on how my side did over a year ago?

If you want to play that game, I'll ask you a question, how did your team do last time they toured south africa?

My team "bossed" South Africa in the ODI series 5 games to 1, with the one game being completely rain affected.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Zero - but, we don't boast for our talunt either. Remind me how many matches PAK won in their AUS tour of 2010 in their "GLORIOUS" history?

You're already losing it, and the time hasn't even come yet to scrutinize your posts.

What does Australia have to do with winning in South Africa?

 

[MMHS]

You're already losing it, and the time hasn't even come yet to scrutinize your posts.

What does Australia have to do with winning in South Africa?

What does SAF had to do when Bangladesh is playing against Newzeland? What was the point of bringing a series played 1.5 years back? Why someone will feel embarrassed for a series played between BD-SAF when there is a live game going on between BD & NZ? Indeed we need to scrutinize our posts and I am the first one to admit that - but I don't start biting, and won't leave either.

 

[Usman Chadda]

What does SAF had to do when Bangladesh is playing against Newzeland? What was the point of bringing a series played 1.5 years back? Why someone will feel embarrassed for a series played between BD-SAF when there is a live game going on between BD & NZ? Indeed we need to scrutinize our posts and I am the first one to admit that - but I don't start biting, and won't leave either.

You brought up enjoying Pakistan's 2-2 scoreline against South Africa in your retort. You've forgotten what you wrote today, no wonder you don't get it when I said Pakistan fans will definitely give a fitting reply to the nonsense you posted after the Asia Cup game.

C'mon [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION], it can't be this easy to rile you up can it? Even before the actual show has begun?

 

[MMHS]

You brought up enjoying Pakistan's 2-2 scoreline against South Africa in your retort. You've forgotten what you wrote today, no wonder you don't get it when I said Pakistan fans will definitely give a fitting reply to the nonsense you posted after the Asia Cup game.

C'mon [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION], it can't be this easy to rile you up can it? Even before the actual show has begun?

I said - I didn't bring it and I didn't post a single nonsense after Asia Cup - the best witness is you, who agreed my posts there. Want to recheck - it's just 5 months past. And, I can tag few posters here as well to "scrutinize" my nonsense. You rather think about your sensible comment of Bangladesh might competing with this Sarfraz model PAK if few key players from PAK is rested..... I just reminded that had Liton not dropped a sitter, PAK would have lost with bonus points against a team missing Shakib & Tamim - 4th in a row.

I don't think I mentioned anything regarding 2-2 of PAK-SAF series here, neither 0-5; rather I was more concerned about how we can compete here. Being riled up is at my hand - normally I avoid nonsense but Post #284 has a clue for you ... and weather alarm on, so I am doing "Work from home" tomorrow. The choice of riling-up day was wrong - just that's it.

 

[Usman Chadda]

I did enjoy for few days after PAK made it 2-2 against SAF reserves, but problem is your team is too ordinary to sustain those enjoyable days .... it evaporated by 3rd day. I don't mind being AWOL for 2-3 days, so no issues.

I said - I didn't bring it and I didn't post a single nonsense after Asia Cup - the best witness is you, who agreed my posts there. Want to recheck - it's just 5 months past. And, I can tag few posters here as well to "scrutinize" my nonsense. You rather think about your sensible comment of Bangladesh might competing with this Sarfraz model PAK if few key players from PAK is rested..... I just reminded that had Liton not dropped a sitter, PAK would have lost with bonus points against a team missing Shakib & Tamim - 4th in a row.

I don't think I mentioned anything regarding 2-2 of PAK-SAF series here, neither 0-5; rather I was more concerned about how we can compete here. Being riled up is at my hand - normally I avoid nonsense but Post #284 has a clue for you ... and weather alarm on, so I am doing "Work from home" tomorrow. The choice of riling-up day was wrong - just that's it.

Yes, you didn't. Clearly.

This is too easy. I'll save up for when the time comes.

This team you just called 'ordinary' will be the cause of some real fun for you soon.

 

[MMHS]

Yes, you didn't. Clearly.

This is too easy. I'll save up for when the time comes.

This team you just called 'ordinary' will be the cause of some real fun for you soon.

I didn't start it and won't bother for what others do in a series that had nothing to do with BD cricket. You are trying the easy way out of bringing a post out of context - let me close it here, otherwise it'll grow brunches.

The "discussion" started when someone felt "embarrassed" even to post the scorecard of SAF-BD series ..... and that guy did post those scorecard just few days back ..... by coincidence, it was just few minutes after PAK made it 2-2 ... He didn't feel embarrassed that time, so I had to mention the reason as well.

You can save whatever you wish and use it - as I said, I won't waste my time to search your posts to use in future.

The team I call "ordinary" is genuine ordinary these days and my love for the game started from watching their predecessors ...... therefore it will be real fun for me if they indeed can cause a turn around - no shame in it, rather it'll be joy.

I hope you'll save this one as well.

 

[saeed5646]

I didn't start it and won't bother for what others do in a series that had nothing to do with BD cricket. You are trying the easy way out of bringing a post out of context - let me close it here, otherwise it'll grow brunches.

The "discussion" started when someone felt "embarrassed" even to post the scorecard of SAF-BD series ..... and that guy did post those scorecard just few days back ..... by coincidence, it was just few minutes after PAK made it 2-2 ... He didn't feel embarrassed that time, so I had to mention the reason as well.

You can save whatever you wish and use it - as I said, I won't waste my time to search your posts to use in future.

The team I call "ordinary" is genuine ordinary these days and my love for the game started from watching their predecessors ...... therefore it will be real fun for me if they indeed can cause a turn around - no shame in it, rather it'll be joy.

I hope you'll save this one as well.

discussion is not open by me read your 31 post.

i will bump again that thread if your team team result is 3-0 because i have shut the troll from bd (rain man)btw 5-0 is getting excuse of pak is getting old your team have reached 4-0 may well end 6-0 worse than pakistan

 

[BlackShadow]

discussion is not open by me read your 31 post.

i will bump again that thread if your team team result is 3-0 because i have shut the troll from bd (rain man)btw 5-0 is getting excuse of pak is getting old your team have reached 4-0 may well end 6-0 worse than pakistan

Lmao, it is always funny to see our two parosis bicker about how their 0-5 is better than other's 0-6. )

 

[MMHS]

discussion is not open by me read your 31 post.

i will bump again that thread if your team team result is 3-0 because i have shut the troll from bd (rain man)btw 5-0 is getting excuse of pak is getting old your team have reached 4-0 may well end 6-0 worse than pakistan

Indeed you can say that now .... your team has reached WLLLLLLLLLLLL (latest one at left) against same opponent, so congrats - you have indeed shut be me here.

 

[MMHS]

Lmao, it is always funny to see our two parosis bicker about how their 0-5 is better than other's 0-6. )

No, one of your padosi doesn't take any pride in pulling someone down uncalled for ..... and that too himself representing a pathetic team - that little self respect & shame one of your padosi do have.

 

[saeed5646]

Lmao, it is always funny to see our two parosis bicker about how their 0-5 is better than other's 0-6. )

we are talking about some bd fans who even dare to argue with indian fans .you have to reach there level to teach them a lesson

 

[saeed5646]

Indeed you can say that now .... your team has reached WLLLLLLLLLLLL (latest one at left) against same opponent, so congrats - you have indeed shut be me here.

rofl i am not proud of that record out of 50 post in this thread you have mention 5-0 of pak so giving your team record

 

[saeed5646]

No, one of your padosi doesn't take any pride in pulling someone down uncalled for ..... and that too himself representing a pathetic team - that little self respect & shame one of your padosi do have.

i did stop at one point but then you again drag me in one post .My team is not pathetic trust me they have MORE value which your team can only dream OF.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Pakistan Vs Bangladesh in World Cup should be a game to watch. However, I would say that since the world cup is in England where Pakistan usually does well, it could be a one-sided match. If it were in Asia, then Bangladesh would have had an upper hand.

 

[latecut]

What is the verdict ? I think Bangladesh bossed New Zealand in the first ODI.

 

[Hyperion66]

On current form in Asia maybe BD has an edge but outside subcontinent Pak is comfortably ahead. BD is improving no doubt but their bowling attack bar Shakib is literally associate level. I am sorry I have huge respect for Mashrafee as a captain but don't really rate his bowling and the less said about Fizz, Rubel and Taskin the better.

 

[Varun]

Don't think Bangladesh are going to win this series in NZ.

Pakistan could have - 50:50.

 

[TM Riddle]

If Shakib was playing , it would have been a far more competitive series than the one we are witnessing right now .
Easily the best all-rounder in the world Cricket at present.

 

[rhony]

Lmao, it is always funny to see our two parosis bicker about how their 0-5 is better than other's 0-6. )

Indian fans think Pak is better than BD
Pak fans think Pak is better than BD and India isn't that far ahead of them.
BD fans think they are better than Pak and India is far ahead.

The game of extrapolation brings in past and recent records against 4th team. Only WC will answer these questions now.

 

[Ganju Baba]

Indian fans think Pak is better than BD
Pak fans think Pak is better than BD and India isn't that far ahead of them.
BD fans think they are better than Pak and India is far ahead.

The game of extrapolation brings in past and recent records against 4th team. Only WC will answer these questions now.

Well said. Pretty much sums entire thread.

 

[RyanRyan10]

Can somebody tell me what is the Head-to-Head record of Bangladesh vs Pakistan in the last 5 LOI encounters?

Bangladesh have won 4
Pakistan have won 1

 

[Tyler Durden]

Bangladesh have won 4
Pakistan have won 1

It sums up who's the 2nd best in Asia in LOIs ! What's all these irrelevant discussions about? The recent Asia Cup has answered all these questions too. Looks like Pak brothers are trying too hard to prove a point but their recent head-to-head record against BD shouldn't even let them start an argument/discussion over this topic!

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Why did a PAK poster bump this? They can't do any worse than what Pakistan did no matter what. Funny how fans of teams who actually thrash NZ in NZ don't take potshots at BD but others do Such minnow mentality

 

[Buffet]

There is ICC ranking. We don't need such long threads for this.

 

[Smudger]

It sums up who's the 2nd best in Asia in LOIs ! What's all these irrelevant discussions about? The recent Asia Cup has answered all these questions too. Looks like Pak brothers are trying too hard to prove a point but their recent head-to-head record against BD shouldn't even let them start an argument/discussion over this topic!

If the best teams are selected on the basis of head to head record against a lowly ranked team then I am afraid England have lost their last 2 t20 matches against the dutch. So according to this logic
The best teams or the superior teams win pressure games and thats what separate men from boys. Bangladesh was toothless aginst india when they had a chance to bat india out of the game. Whereas Pakistan thrashed top 2 odi teams .
Forget Champions Trophy Bangladesh couldnt even beat Ind in Asia cup final when they had a great platforn to bat india out of the game. They could not beat them even in nidahas trophy nor could they win a world t20 .
Fact is bangla boys do not have the same skill level as Pak players. They perhaps are pretty weak mentally.
Beating a Pak team in a one off Asia cup match when they were extremely low on confidence does not mean anything
And last but not the least Bangladesh have a non existent fast bowling attack which means chances of them winning a cup other than ice cream cup are almost nil.
As sad as it may sound Bengalis know that they are no match to Pak but they have a chance to fight against Pak fans due to 1 victory.

 

[Smudger]

Ask any indian or sena fan about who they fear more in a knockout match and that will answer this question

 

[Chokli]

It sums up who's the 2nd best in Asia in LOIs ! What's all these irrelevant discussions about? The recent Asia Cup has answered all these questions too. Looks like Pak brothers are trying too hard to prove a point but their recent head-to-head record against BD shouldn't even let them start an argument/discussion over this topic!

the second best asian side needs to win some series' out of asia for a change

 

[big_gamer007]

BD needs to do a SL of WC 96 to be considered as top dogs..

Until they do that casual cricket fans (who are majority in numbers) will not consider BD team a threat..

Hopefully they give a solid performance in 2019 and tell the world they are a real deal.

 

[Tyler Durden]

the second best asian side needs to win some series' out of asia for a change

Let the New-gen Pakistan win against BD first!

 

[saeed5646]

Let the New-gen Pakistan win against BD first!

how many matches have bd played against New -gen?

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

It sums up who's the 2nd best in Asia in LOIs ! What's all these irrelevant discussions about? The recent Asia Cup has answered all these questions too. Looks like Pak brothers are trying too hard to prove a point but their recent head-to-head record against BD shouldn't even let them start an argument/discussion over this topic!

Lol 4 of those matches took place 4 and 5 years ago. One win proves absolutely nothing. Anyone who is an active watcher knows Pakistan is the better team. Bangladesh beat New Zealand in the Champions trophy as well, doesn't mean they are the better team.

 

[a_tahir]

So I should base my opinion on how my side did over a year ago?

If you want to play that game, I'll ask you a question, how did your team do last time they toured south africa?

Got 'em

 

[a_tahir]

BD needs to do a SL of WC 96 to be considered as top dogs..

Until they do that casual cricket fans (who are majority in numbers) will not consider BD team a threat..

Hopefully they give a solid performance in 2019 and tell the world they are a real deal.

So u think Bangladesh have a chance of winning the world cup??
They can't do it.
Sri lanka weren't rated but they weren't rated THAT low

 

[Khan12]

Bangladesh beat us in that series 3-0 in 2015 when that was perhaps our worst ever team with the like of fawad, saad etc.

 

[a_tahir]

Bangladesh have won 4
Pakistan have won 1

Lol.
3 out of the 4 matches were in the same series in 2015 when ban were going through a purple patch. Asia cup one was just a fluke.
Stop hyping them up.
They say that we got thrashed in nz.
Look up their results in south africa in 2017
Lost by 10 wickets in one of the matches with a score of 270

 

[Khan12]

In 2015 didn't Bangladesh beat india in a series too?

 

[a_tahir]

In 2015 didn't Bangladesh beat india in a series too?

Yeah. They even beat SA.
They are the true "home track bullies"

 

[hasanali22]

Untill BD prove themselves in a global tournament, they will never be the second best team in asia.

 

[saeed5646]

Why did a PAK poster bump this? They can't do any worse than what Pakistan did no matter what. Funny how fans of teams who actually thrash NZ in NZ don't take potshots at BD but others do Such minnow mentality

this post are merge from Nz vs bd match thread. no body have bump the thread

 

[aloo paratha]

He is Indian, and his team did damn good. But, I can respond your question being Bangladeshi - we were damn ordinary in ODI against a SAF team that had AdV & Kock firing, Morkel & Rabada as well. But, we kept them in Test for 4 days both time .... probably got the clue. And, how did your team do last time they toured BD?

I didn't know he was Indian, I was on mobile where there are no flags, so I assumed he was Bangladeshi.

 

[big_gamer007]

So u think Bangladesh have a chance of winning the world cup??����
They can't do it.
Sri lanka weren't rated but they weren't rated THAT low

I am saying they have to win a world cup to change the perception of people.

Whether they are able to win or not is a different question altogether .

Also every team has a chance to win WC even Afghanistan however slim the chance maybe.

 

[a_tahir]

I said - I didn't bring it and I didn't post a single nonsense after Asia Cup - the best witness is you, who agreed my posts there. Want to recheck - it's just 5 months past. And, I can tag few posters here as well to "scrutinize" my nonsense. You rather think about your sensible comment of Bangladesh might competing with this Sarfraz model PAK if few key players from PAK is rested..... I just reminded that had Liton not dropped a sitter, PAK would have lost with bonus points against a team missing Shakib & Tamim - 4th in a row.

I don't think I mentioned anything regarding 2-2 of PAK-SAF series here, neither 0-5; rather I was more concerned about how we can compete here. Being riled up is at my hand - normally I avoid nonsense but Post #284 has a clue for you ... and weather alarm on, so I am doing "Work from home" tomorrow. The choice of riling-up day was wrong - just that's it.

Reserves??
Who do u want SA to have?
Ab de villiers, allan donald, jonty Rhodes???

Pakistan didn't have Miandad, Inzamam, waqar, wasim so they were playing their reserves as well.