Is it high time to suspend BCCI owing to incessant political interference?

Is it high time to suspend BCCI owing to incessant political interference?


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Well if India does play in Pakistan then they have a better chance of winning CT as both countries have flat pitches like highways.
 
I think going forward ICC tourneys should only be hosted by countries that have won a WC or the trophy in the format that is being played.

Therefore for ODI: only OZ, Eng, Pak, Ind, SL, WI
For T20: Oz, Eng, Pak, SL, WI, Ind
For CT: SA, NZ, Ind, Pak, Oz, SL

No non winning team should ever host an ICC trophy, that will give laggards like BD an impetus to win something, else why host in a country where the crowds will be rubbish as they know their team has no chance of winning anything.
 
I think going forward ICC tourneys should only be hosted by countries that have won a WC or the trophy in the format that is being played.

Therefore for ODI: only OZ, Eng, Pak, Ind, SL, WI
For T20: Oz, Eng, Pak, SL, WI, Ind
For CT: SA, NZ, Ind, Pak, Oz, SL

No non winning team should ever host an ICC trophy, that will give laggards like BD an impetus to win something, else why host in a country where the crowds will be rubbish as they know their team has no chance of winning anything.

Ideally, all ICC events should be hosted by England. Best venue for an ICC event.

It shouldn't be hosted in India because it feels like a home bilateral series for India. It doesn't feel like a World Cup.

Bangladesh and Sri Lanka shouldn't host because vibes are boring there. Same with West Indies.

Pakistan can host I guess. But, it still doesn't feel as lively as it does in England. Also, pitches are too flat.
 
Ideally, all ICC events should be hosted by England. Best venue for an ICC event.

It shouldn't be hosted in India because it feels like a home bilateral series for India. It doesn't feel like a World Cup.

Bangladesh and Sri Lanka shouldn't host because vibes are boring there. Same with West Indies.

Pakistan can host I guess. But, it still doesn't feel as lively as it does in England. Also, pitches are too flat.
Even more ideally, all cricket should only be played by big-moustached English guys from either Eton or Harrow.
 
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Ideally, all ICC events should be hosted by England. Best venue for an ICC event.

It shouldn't be hosted in India because it feels like a home bilateral series for India. It doesn't feel like a World Cup.

Bangladesh and Sri Lanka shouldn't host because vibes are boring there. Same with West Indies.

Pakistan can host I guess. But, it still doesn't feel as lively as it does in England. Also, pitches are too flat.
You have your view, I have mine. ICC tourneys should only be held in countries that have won it, countries need to earn the right to host it and therefore no more nonsensical US, Canada, BD, UAE type experiments. You want to hold a tounrney, make a champion side first.

Plus the matches should be held for optimal viewing of the the country that brings in the most moolah and also suits that of it's Western neighbour as CBM....
 
Even more ideally, all cricket should only be played by big-moustached English guys from either Eton or Harrow.

Us brown sub-continent coolies shouldn't be allowed to play it or if we're really keen, maybe we can play among each other while carrying the luggage on our heads (coolies you see!) to make it realistic.
Plus reverse swing, spin, doosra, leg glance, ramp, Dil Scoop should all be banned.

Only Asian influence to be kept is 🐍 dance....
 
Plus reverse swing, spin, doosra, leg glance, ramp, Dil Scoop should all be banned.

Only Asian influence to be kept is 🐍 dance....

I have always been anti-nagin dance. It belongs in Bollywood. Not sure why BD did that.

As a lifelong fan of Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, and Saqlain Mushtaq, I have always enjoyed reverse swing and doosra.

Anyway, let's not derail the thread.
 
Guys plz don't derail the thread with irrelevant stuff
Who brought in the irrelevant conversation of where ICC tourneys should be held? Should have been nipped in the bud mate

Convos about should BCCI be suspended, not where a certain chaps opinion on where we should have tourneys- thats where the derailing happened....
 
Let's walk back on why GOI is not allowing Indian men's team to visit Pakistan.

First one in security. Second one, maybe they don't want Pak to enjoy the monetary benefits from Indian men's team visit. Why?

Kashmir Pulwama. 26/11 Mumbai. Kargill.

I do believe that Pakistani civilan govt would have prevented them if they had known about it before.

The PCB is appointed by PM, who himself is a puppet of establishment. Entire PCB is run by govt while BCCI is an autonomous body. If left alone BCCI would probably like to visit Pak, but they don't have the governmental clearance.

If Pakistani's military has stopped interfering in Pakistan, and in India, this whole discussion would have been pointless.
 
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Let's walk back on why GOI is not allowing Indian men's team to visit Pakistan.

First one in security. Second one, maybe they don't want Pak to enjoy the monetary benefits from Indian men's team visit. Why?

Kashmir Pulwama. 26/11 Mumbai. Kargill.

I do believe that Pakistani civilan govt would have prevented them if they had known about it before.

The PCB is appointed by PM, who himself is a puppet of establishment. Entire PCB is run by govt while BCCI is an autonomous body. If left alone BCCI would probably like to visit Pak, but they don't have the governmental clearance.

If Pakistani's military has stopped interfering in Pakistan, and in India, this whole discussion would have been pointless.

Why does India tour the UK which reduced it from the world's greatest economy to 4 seperate third
 
It's high time that the both PCB and BCCI discussed with the governments and made their stances clear about ALL future tourneys. All parties (ICC, the boards, broadcasters, fans) need clarity instead of constant back and forth on each tournament.

So BCCI can put out a statement saying they wont visit Pakistan for the foreseeable future, any tournament hosted by Pakistan will have to be a hybrid model with knockouts abroad.

ICC knows this far in advance then and contracts and schedules are decided accordingly
 
If Mohsin Naqvi can't make CT 2025 an all Pakistan hosted event then he should resign straight away or make Pakistan pull out from upcoming future events in India. Even be adamant on not facing India in CT 2025 outside Pakistan
 
If Mohsin Naqvi can't make CT 2025 an all Pakistan hosted event then he should resign straight away or make Pakistan pull out from upcoming future events in India. Even be adamant on not facing India in CT 2025 outside Pakistan
Yaar, no one in Pakistan is capable of doing that. PCB will have to back down.
IT will be a farce with final and SF location already pre determined for India like we had in this T20 World cup.
 
Yaar, no one in Pakistan is capable of doing that. PCB will have to back down.
IT will be a farce with final and SF location already pre determined for India like we had in this T20 World cup.
Its all about will power, I know its difficult but not impossible. Anybody doing that would set a good precedent for other boards too.
 
Its all about will power, I know its difficult but not impossible. Anybody doing that would set a good precedent for other boards too.
Respectfully disagree. There is fine line between foolishness and courage.
Why hasn't the Arab world fully boycotted the West on Israel? Why is everyone just ok with the stupid status Quo of Taiwan, it goes on both USA and China side? Tons and tons of such crazy examples. Has USA and Europe sanctioned India or China for continue to engage with Russia on trade?
There are ample precedents of PCB raising a ruckus , threatening to sue and failing and then falling back in line.
Its not worth it, honestly PCB making this an issues will only put a sharper spotlight on how terrible the situation is for them, when they have to back down again. PCB tried setting a precedent in 2023 World Cup didn't they?
And, literally why on earth will any of the boards follow PCB?? Please see things from their POV too not just PCB.

Sometimes you have to bide your time. You can't be boom boom Afridi always, when situation is tough patience and delicate handling is required.
 
Why is PCB giving NOCs for Pakistani players to play in overseas leagues teams owned or controlled by IPL teams ?

Should have some izzat and prevent enriching IPL owners' bank accounts using their own players?
 
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it was not prime minister bro. I guess you are misunderstood.
Oh yes it was your cricket chief.

So are you saying people in Pakistan (and India) have the same feelings for Australia as they have for the 'Dushman mulk'? Both countries face a very different level of security calculation when visiting what is essentially an enemy nation.

I appreciate that Pakistan calculated it was safe enough security-wise to travel to India for the world cup but who are you or I to dictate that the Indian government should feel the same? Virtually every developed country has a security advisory on travel to Pakistan.

While the Indian government may be using (I'm not saying it is for sure) as an excuse to disallow the cricket team from traveling to Pakistan, it's not a silly excuse as you're making it out to be
 
Oh yes it was your cricket chief.

So are you saying people in Pakistan (and India) have the same feelings for Australia as they have for the 'Dushman mulk'? Both countries face a very different level of security calculation when visiting what is essentially an enemy nation.

I appreciate that Pakistan calculated it was safe enough security-wise to travel to India for the world cup but who are you or I to dictate that the Indian government should feel the same? Virtually every developed country has a security advisory on travel to Pakistan.

While the Indian government may be using (I'm not saying it is for sure) as an excuse to disallow the cricket team from traveling to Pakistan, it's not a silly excuse as you're making it out to be
Pakistan vs India rivalry is not the same as Pakistan and Australia. Not even close

My only point is if INDIA is not willing to come, why are they trying to move the whole event out from Pakistan when all other teams are ready to come to Pakistan for the event.

India should just say "no we are not coming" and that is it. SL comes in and the event go as planned. SIMPLE.
 
Pakistan vs India rivalry is not the same as Pakistan and Australia. Not even close

My only point is if INDIA is not willing to come, why are they trying to move the whole event out from Pakistan when all other teams are ready to come to Pakistan for the event.

India should just say "no we are not coming" and that is it. SL comes in and the event go as planned. SIMPLE.
Hmmm is it PCB who try to move 2011 world cup away from india/ Srilanka/ Bangladesh after the 2009 Srilanka team attacks . PCB has audacity to claim if pakistan is not safe then whole subcontinent is not safe and World Cup must move even after botched up President level security, Every Opportunity PCB got try pull all of subcontinent together with it eventhough issue is with PCB and pakistan. If with 0 pull ,PCB is trying everything to hurt others and then espect others not to do is Quite Foolish.
 
Hmmm is it PCB who try to move 2011 world cup away from india/ Srilanka/ Bangladesh after the 2009 Srilanka team attacks . PCB has audacity to claim if pakistan is not safe then whole subcontinent is not safe and World Cup must move even after botched up President level security, Every Opportunity PCB got try pull all of subcontinent together with it eventhough issue is with PCB and pakistan. If with 0 pull ,PCB is trying everything to hurt others and then espect others not to do is Quite Foolish.
yo @Rajdeep some truth bombs here for you
 
Hmmm is it PCB who try to move 2011 world cup away from india/ Srilanka/ Bangladesh after the 2009 Srilanka team attacks . PCB has audacity to claim if pakistan is not safe then whole subcontinent is not safe and World Cup must move even after botched up President level security, Every Opportunity PCB got try pull all of subcontinent together with it eventhough issue is with PCB and pakistan. If with 0 pull ,PCB is trying everything to hurt others and then espect others not to do is Quite Foolish.
India should just say "no we are not coming" and that is it. SL comes in and the event go as planned. SIMPLE.
AGAIN....SIMPLE NO will do the trick.
 
Banning BCCI is like banning America.

No point in discussing the impossible.
 
My only point is if INDIA is not willing to come, why are they trying to move the whole event out from Pakistan when all other teams are ready to come to Pakistan for the event.

India should just say "no we are not coming" and that is it. SL comes in and the event go as planned. SIMPLE.
Why blame BCCI?
Isn't the responsibility lies with PCB & ICC to go ahead with the tournament without Indian participation?
 
Pakistan vs India rivalry is not the same as Pakistan and Australia. Not even close

My only point is if INDIA is not willing to come, why are they trying to move the whole event out from Pakistan when all other teams are ready to come to Pakistan for the event.

India should just say "no we are not coming" and that is it. SL comes in and the event go as planned. SIMPLE.

India is only telling ICC the options. Its for ICC to decide.

ICC will decide who comes and goes and where the event will be held.
 
First of all, I do not agree with the question. Second in an hypothetical case even if it was to be done, who is going to bell the cat ?
 
I do not mind if England host every single tournament. Great venues. Great crowd. Great atmosphere.
Ofcourse you won't mind that since both your countries (country of origin and where you reside now) are in mess as far as game of Cricket is concerned.

Rest of us don't want all tournaments played in gloomy atmosphere where you have to literally keep an eye on weather watch all the time.
 
Ofcourse you won't mind that since both your countries (country of origin and where you reside now) are in mess as far as game of Cricket is concerned.

Rest of us don't want all tournaments played in gloomy atmosphere where you have to literally keep an eye on weather watch all the time.

It has nothing to do with that really. I am not a blind nationalist. LOL.

I am a lover of cricket. I believe England is the best place for cricket. It has nothing to do with any other factor.
 
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It has nothing to do with that really. I am not a blind nationalist. LOL.

I am a lover of cricket. I believe England is the best place for cricket. It has nothing to do with any other factor.
Lets me rephrase it. You're not a nationalist at all.

I think its you who is posting regarding venues and all in a thread which has nothing to do with it.. Please read the thread title and tell us how your 'Bangladeshi /Pakistani/Canadian' thought process is relevant to the topic.
 
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Lets me rephrase it. You're not a nationalist at all.

I think its you who is posting regarding venues and all in a thread which has nothing to do with it.. Please read the thread title and tell us how your 'Bangladeshi /Pakistani/Canadian' thought process is relevant to the topic.

The comment was a response to someone else's post.

I have already posted my reply relevant to the topic. Now stop derailing the thread.
 
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No board can tame them until they recognize their own worth. If any major board and especially a host nation stands up to them then BCCI can't do a zilch.
 
No board can tame them until they recognize their own worth. If any major board and especially a host nation stands up to them then BCCI can't do a zilch.
I agree. But no board is willing to do it.

This situation is nothing new. Going on for a decade and a half. Probably more. But no board is even close to doing it.
 
I agree. But no board is willing to do it.

This situation is nothing new. Going on for a decade and a half. Probably more. But no board is even close to doing it.
Mohsin Naqvi is too stupid, he just needs to take a stand here. That Pakistan will organize the CT with or without India. Even such stubborness cost Pakistan revenue issues or shifting of entire tournament. No worries as such a stance is bound to shake the BCCI and gather support of other boards
 
No board can tame them until they recognize their own worth. If any major board and especially a host nation stands up to them then BCCI can't do a zilch.
Please Please suspend and kick out BCCI from ICC. Would be nice to see 90% of broadcasting revenue walkout of ICC and allow BCCI to create a new separate cricketing world Body. :ROFLMAO: .
 
Please please.... That way PCB can be isolated. BCCI is too chicken to kick PCB out.
 
LOL.

BCCI is ICC and ICC is BCCI. How are you gonna kick ICC from ICC. That is not possible

Yes, there is political interference in BCCI but they are going nowhere, they control this system.
 
LOL.

BCCI is ICC and ICC is BCCI. How are you gonna kick ICC from ICC. That is not possible

Yes, there is political interference in BCCI but they are going nowhere, they control this system.

What political interference?
 
LOL.

BCCI is ICC and ICC is BCCI. How are you gonna kick ICC from ICC. That is not possible

Yes, there is political interference in BCCI but they are going nowhere, they control this system.
"Chacha hai wo hi bhatija hai or jo bhatija hai wo hi chacha hai "
 
the example is right in front of you brother. Don't need to give examples.

That's called security assessment not political interference.

Political interference is when PM or the government has a hand in day to day operations or appointment of officials.
 
That's called security assessment not political interference.

Political interference is when PM or the government has a hand in day to day operations or appointment of officials.
Security is not a problem here brother otherwise Pakistan would have never been hosting this cup.
 
Security is not a problem here brother otherwise Pakistan would have never been hosting this cup.
Security perception is different for different nations, that why Pakistani passport is checked throughly compared to japenese/Chinese passport going to third countries.Same way for Indians threat is always higher than the other nations in Pakistan because of weak political leadership and in power Miltary dictatorship.No body knows what ur Miltary Rulers will do as they don't care about any consequences. Indians are burnt many times in past at even most important and prestigious occasions.That why Indian government (be it Congress or bjp or any ) always hesitates in moving forward.They put ur favourite and current famous leader IK inside prison with out any issues and u think they will care about bunch of cricketers.
 
@BouncerGuy

Instead of smilies may be you should tell about your reasons.
That's your assessment. BCCI has to follow the assessment of its government. Every team has to.

The other government and board have also done assessment before saying yes to the event in Pakistan. INDIA is special because they have a political beef with Pakistan... SIMPLE KNOWN FACT...

Hope I answered your question.
 
The other government and board have also done assessment before saying yes to the event in Pakistan. INDIA is special because they have a political beef with Pakistan... SIMPLE KNOWN FACT...

Hope I answered your question.

India is special because India and Pakistan have hostile relationship.

Just like a Pakistani passport isn't treated on par with an Indian passport and a Indian passport isn't on par with a European one, each nation has a different threat perception.
 
India is special because India and Pakistan have hostile relationship.

Just like a Pakistani passport isn't treated on par with an Indian passport and a Indian passport isn't on par with a European one, each nation has a different threat perception.
Yes. that is my whole argument. Where does this hostile relationship vanish when it comes to world cup or asia cup matches. don't play those games as well na, bro.
 
Yes. that is my whole argument. Where does this hostile relationship vanish when it comes to world cup or asia cup matches. don't play those games as well na, bro.
This whole thing has nothing to do with hostile relationship or security. Its basically financial sanctions on Pakistan. Just US has trade embargo against Cuba or sanctions against Iran / North Korea

India's policy is to impose financial penalties on Pakistan - like banning trade, getting Pakistan listed on FATF, stop cricket tours ( as it will lead to windfall ). That's why India has no problems sending Davis Cup team to Pakistan coz nobody cares. But cricket tour is a financial bonanza
 
The BCCI’s significant influence within the ICC is well known. Yet, when considering whether their ICC membership should be suspended due to political interference, the answer in an ideal world is straightforward: yes, it should be. Their unchecked power often seems to drive decisions motivated by wealth and politics, rather than the genuine interests of the sport. Suspending their membership could serve as a strong reminder that global cricket governance must prioritize fairness and accountability over financial dominance.
 
LOL.

BCCI is ICC and ICC is BCCI. How are you gonna kick ICC from ICC. That is not possible

Yes, there is political interference in BCCI but they are going nowhere, they control this system.

True.
Besides this is Bharat we are talking about which is a BRICS founding nation, a G20 and a major global power.

I absolute hate to say it but some Pakistanis really come up with dumb statements and comparisons on a daily basis.

Comparing Osama Bin Laden to Sheikh Haseena and comparing Bharat to Zimbabwe.

Politics is way bigger than sports and talking about political influence in sports, isn’t banning of Russia from the Olympics the biggest political interference in sports ever where IS gets to decide who is right and who is wrong. People really need a heavy dose of reality and about how the world runs.
 
LOL.

BCCI is ICC and ICC is BCCI. How are you gonna kick ICC from ICC. That is not possible

Yes, there is political interference in BCCI but they are going nowhere, they control this system.
Even though it might never happen because of the BCCI’s strong influence over the ICC, it is still important to speak up and say that change is needed for the good of the game. If enough people support this, it could eventually get enough attention that the BCCI might feel responsible or pressured to make decisions that benefit cricket as a whole.
 
Done, now lets unearth the main reason behind Indian government's paranoia with an ICC event in Pakistan.
Sri Lankas team almost got sent to Heaven back in those days. J and K is still on the boil , and with the level of hate Pak has for India , how do y expect Cricketers to hug each other and say hey bud hows it going ?
 
Teams visited India after Mumbai attacks. Gujrat riots as well.
Those attacks weren't carried by state sponsored agents. Afaik , India turned up its internal security since then and attacks , terrorism went much higher in Pakistan after Mumbai attack .


Gujrat riots .. well no society is free from it. Hate crimes happen in west too. Atleast theres no brazen ethnic cleansing in india as exists in Pakistan as Hindus have almost disappeared in Pakistan while muslims in india have more than tripled since a new country was born in 1947
 
Teams visited India after Mumbai attacks. Gujrat riots as well.
Leave alone cricket , no major sportsman or team was targeted by violence in India even during the dark days of 2004- 2009. that period witnessed worst attacks in Mumbai , and other cities.
 
Those attacks weren't carried by state sponsored agents. Afaik , India turned up its internal security since then and attacks , terrorism went much higher in Pakistan after Mumbai attack .


Gujrat riots .. well no society is free from it. Hate crimes happen in west too. Atleast theres no brazen ethnic cleansing in india as exists in Pakistan as Hindus have almost disappeared in Pakistan while muslims in india have more than tripled since a new country was born in 1947
Pakistan is in much better condition than it was in 2009. Why those attacks still the basis for India to not come???
 
Pakistan is in much better condition than it was in 2009. Why those attacks still the basis for India to not come???
come on dude... what better conditions ??

security wise maybe ...but attacks still do occur ..and some areas in Pak are no go zones for even natives.

> 900 aqi in most of ur circket grounds... 2000 in aome cities. Ongoing serial attacks in JK over last many months until today.... and similar events in Pak too . with that railway blast barely a week has it been ?

what happens in Kashmir directly affects the national mood and govts directives to Bcci.

and with kinds of comments some of ur ex commentators make towards Bhajji and indian cricket in general....why wud India come
 
When Pakistan is giving you presidential level security, (much more than other team) then why??
They should just come out and openly admit that they have a deep rooted hostility towards Pakistan and don’t want the PCB to progress as a cricketing nation. It seems they are willing to go to any lengths to isolate the PCB, regardless of how bad it makes them look on the world stage. All teams that have visited Pakistan to play cricket have been satisfied with the security arrangements, which include presidential level protection. If India were to visit, no doubt they would receive even more security, likely beyond presidential protection. The Pakistani government would ensure their safety without question. The talk of security risks for the Champions Trophy in Pakistan is pure nonsense.
 
Pakistan is in much better condition than it was in 2009. Why those attacks still the basis for India to not come???


Sri Lankan players were vomiting in Delhi during 300 aqi. i wonder if countries pull out due to Aqi itself. what a shame wud it be then ?
 
Sri Lankan players were vomiting in Delhi during 300 aqi. i wonder if countries pull out due to Aqi itself. what a shame wud it be then ?
Are you guys vomitting in Delhi atm??

come on brother. bring some solid excuse now.
 
They should just come out and openly admit that they have a deep rooted hostility towards Pakistan and don’t want the PCB to progress as a cricketing nation. It seems they are willing to go to any lengths to isolate the PCB, regardless of how bad it makes them look on the world stage. All teams that have visited Pakistan to play cricket have been satisfied with the security arrangements, which include presidential level protection. If India were to visit, no doubt they would receive even more security, likely beyond presidential protection. The Pakistani government would ensure their safety without question. The talk of security risks for the Champions Trophy in Pakistan is pure nonsense.

Deep rooted hostility. Lovely words. isnt it .

Indians are dying in JK since last 40 years , still are over last many months with surge in attacks and u feel bcci has deep rooted hostility? Farooq abdullah has gone mad barking comments about host country and u feel indian govt will allow cricket team to come ?

tbh , even if bcci isolates Pcb ...no harm can come to Pct until pcb creates a good doemstic structure. all teams play pak so doesnt make a differnce except for revenues which Psl can generate .
 
Are you guys vomitting in Delhi atm??

come on brother. bring some solid excuse now.


No no ...we are Supermen in Delhi and Punjab. Lungs of steel . we thrive when aqi rises infact. 😭😭😬.

Until theres peace at the borders and inside , not even the masses wud want cricket to resume.
 
When Pakistan is giving you presidential level security, (much more than other team) then why??
India government doesn't trust the one who is providing that presidential level security , do u know what happened few times when we trusted ur Miltary ,we got kargil when vajpee went for peace, we got Mumbai attacks .
 
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