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Jasprit Bumrah vs Hasan Ali

ArsenalFC said:
Nah it's called holding an opinion without looking at your tinted glasses i.e. impartiality.

It's this type of mindset that Indians need to change, so that they can change the way BCCI has been "bullying others" (Manohar's words not mine) to serve for the best interests cricket (for example allowing cricket to take place in the Olympics for the good of the growth of this sport) rather than just serving themselves.
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If I say Hardik Pandya is as good as Imran Khan or better than him, Would you not laugh at me or call me a troll?

Folks here got worked up when I said Kapil was a better allrounder than Imran.
 
Hasan trumps bumrah in the middle overs period in ODI.However there is no comparison in the death overs bowling ...Bumrah is the best death overs bowler in the world..Period
 
Send1983 said:
If I say Hardik Pandya is as good as Imran Khan or better than him, Would you not laugh at me or call me a troll?

Folks here got worked up when I said Kapil was a better allrounder than Imran.
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If you said Kapil was a better all rounder in LOIs then I would agree because he was. Overall however in tests (bat and ball) and with regards to captaincy is where Imran Khan leaves Kapil behind.

As for Hardik Pandya, I understand where you're coming from, the hype brigade on here have inflated the value of Faheem when he has hardly achieved anything notable in international cricket or even PSL for that matter, whereas we've seen several displays of brilliance from the Indian all rounder. It's too early to compare Faheem to anyone established.

Not all of us are biased and lack the ability to think critically. The usual suspects on here will continue to spout nonsense with their rhethoric against Kohli and Pandya.
 
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Come on Hasan get at least one wicket which your team need badly now. I know wicket is not as bowler friendly as it was in first innings.
 
Send1983 said:
Come on Hasan get at least one wicket which your team need badly now. I know wicket is not as bowler friendly as it was in first innings.
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On top of that, he was trundling too.Now, this is his first test and he is bowling in England, not hot UAE.So no excuses for trundling other than lack of stamina for longer version.
 
Like I said earlier, need consistancy.Started out with a good spell but fizzled out later.Bumrah is much faster and took more wickets in his outing in SA.At the moment, he is much better than Hasan in Test cricket and will remain the same until Hassan gets the stamina to bowl long spells and up his pace.
 
BUMP!!

Bumrah is bowling like a champion. Looking like one of the best bowlers in the world at the moment.

Can Hasan match him during the SA series?

This is a delightful contest.
 
Hasan is much better. He bowled a peach to get Parnel out in 2017.
 
It's too early to make a comparison in Tests. Hasan Ali has played 4 Tests so far while the ongoing Test is Bumrah's 4th one. Hasan Ali has shown tremendous talent and skills in ODI cricket so far. Would be interesting to see how he does in South Africa.
 
Whenever Hasan does well, the thread seems to reach a conclusion. But now that Bumrah has been ahead for a long long long time, it is all about reserving the judgement until Hasan plays more.

Another classic thread where an Indian can only win if the dead thread is bumped in 4 year's time.
 
Hitman said:
It's too early to make a comparison in Tests. Hasan Ali has played 4 Tests so far while the ongoing Test is Bumrah's 4th one. Hasan Ali has shown tremendous talent and skills in ODI cricket so far. Would be interesting to see how he does in South Africa.
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Bumrah has shown no less talent in ODIs.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Bumrah has shown no less talent in ODIs.
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I don't know how you can make comparisons between players until atleast both have played 20 games. This is a very ordinary England side and in my opinion already over achieved by winning two games. They basically can only win when either their lower orders fires thats is 5 wickt down or conditions are absolutely perfect for Anderson.
 
Pakhs said:
I don't know how you can make comparisons between players until atleast both have played 20 games. This is a very ordinary England side and in my opinion already over achieved by winning two games. They basically can only win when either their lower orders fires thats is 5 wickt down or conditions are absolutely perfect for Anderson.
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All of a sudden England is a "very ordinary side"?

Isn't this Indian side supposed to be the "worst number 1 test team ever" according to a thread on PP?
 
the_outsider said:
All of a sudden England is a "very ordinary side"?

Isn't this Indian side supposed to be the "worst number 1 test team ever" according to a thread on PP?
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Check my posts I have been saying that since the start of summer! I am just saying which most people know and the thread was probably due to India going 2-0 down against this England side.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Bumrah has shown no less talent in ODIs.
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Yea, man. Bumrah has been been tremendous as well in ODI's. I was so mad at him for that no ball in CT final. But I'm over it now. Took quite a while though :D
 
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aloo paratha said:
In what world is this a dead pitch? Bumrah has outperformed Hasan comfortably so far in tests but that doesn't mean you have to make up lies to prove your point.
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This is a slow dead pitch. Hear the commentators speak. Harsha just said these are comfortable batting conditions.

Lies. Lol. Tell that to the commies.
 
cricketjoshila said:
This is a slow dead pitch. Hear the commentators speak. Harsha just said these are comfortable batting conditions.

Lies. Lol. Tell that to the commies.
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Have you seen how much Shami is moving the ball? Every other ball was going past the edge. Shami and ishant have both been getting consistent movement as well. Bumrah has used the movement the best out of the 3 pacers, but again this is not a dead pitch.
 
Hasan Ali is your regular trundler. Can't compare the two. It's only a matter of time before Bumrah make into the top 10 Test ranking.
 
aloo paratha said:
Have you seen how much Shami is moving the ball? Every other ball was going past the edge. Shami and ishant have both been getting consistent movement as well. Bumrah has used the movement the best out of the 3 pacers, but again this is not a dead pitch.
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What ever little Ishant and Shami got is due to reverse. Bumrah did it with new ball as well.
 
What a fine performance again. Without getting into comparisons, he’s had a great start to his test career, albeit on bowling friendly pitches.

Sad to see him not getting rested from Asia Cup. After being in England since June, will head straight to UAE to play back to back matches in the heat there. No time to acclimatise, no time to rest
 
This England team is just poor. Its no wonder they keep losing Test matches at home and pitiful abroad.
 
ManFan said:
Bumrah has comfortably outperformed Hasan in Tests so far.
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It seems that way just because Hasan's played 4. Two of them with a split webbing and a niggle. Hasan will perform in the in the upcoming test series and it'll all be clear, In Sha Allah.

Bumrah is an excellent talent, but Hasan seems to have that competitive edge and couple that with the abundant fire in his belly, and you get an extremely lethal bowler who is in control of his destiny. He just needs to keep his head down and keep working hard.
 
OmarKhan99 said:
It seems that way just because Hasan's played 4. Two of them with a split webbing and a niggle. Hasan will perform in the in the upcoming test series and it'll all be clear, In Sha Allah.

Bumrah is an excellent talent, but Hasan seems to have that competitive edge and couple that with the abundant fire in his belly, and you get an extremely lethal bowler who is in control of his destiny. He just needs to keep his head down and keep working hard.
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He doesn't have the stamina and Fitness to be a good test bowler.And with his height, at least should bowl at Shami's pace to be effective in Tests.
 
Dingolfy said:
He doesn't have the stamina and Fitness to be a good test bowler.And with his height, at least should bowl at Shami's pace to be effective in Tests.
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Hasan is one of the fittest players you'll find.

Also, I don't believe in just capping off a player's ability because of his physical characteristics. Having said that, he does have pace and movement. The guy has performed all around the world. You don't do that as a dibbly dobbly bowler on flat pitches.
 
Hasan Ali does not look the same as he did at the CT. No doubt that he is a quality bowler but for me he has declined as shown in the New Zealand series and the way he played yesterday. Bumrah is the better player in all formats at the moment.
 
At the moment you have to say its Bumrah by far but these kind of threads are always bump able and I have no doubt this might be bumped again in future and this time for Hasan Ali.
 
2017 was the year of Hasan Ali, 2018 can be Bumrah's year.

Let's see what happens in 2019 :)
 
babajee said:
2017 was the year of Hasan Ali, 2018 can be Bumrah's year.

Let's see what happens in 2019 :)
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2018 is almost over. Bumrah didn't play that much. Bumrah is no.1 because of his 2017 exploits too. 2018 is year of spinners. Top 5 wicket takers are spinners.
 
Pakhs said:
At the moment you have to say its Bumrah by far but these kind of threads are always bump able and I have no doubt this might be bumped again in future and this time for Hasan Ali.
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Are you sure?
 
Just like my last comment on this thread! both are good bowlers so this kind of thread will just get bumped every now and then.
 
Syed1 said:
Breaking news...... this just in...... players' performances go up and down throughout their careers.
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Yet all you were saying when he was bowling poorly was it was due to fame getting to his head.
 
Hasan123 said:
Yet all you were saying when he was bowling poorly was it was due to fame getting to his head.
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Don't mix-up the formats. He has been very poor in LOIs. Performance in one format does not negate performances in other formats.
 
Darkrai said:
Don't mix-up the formats. He has been very poor in LOIs. Performance in one format does not negate performances in other formats.
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So he isn't allowed a bad patch after that great run ? It was always likely to happen.

I'm sure he will do better in the next LO series.
 
Both fine bowlers. This is a very worthy comparison unlike Faheem v Pandya, Umar Akmal v Kohli et al in the past.

I have Bumrah slightly ahead and he is a yard quicker as well. Both excellent reverse swing bowlers with the old ball. Good conventional swing bowlers with the new ball too.

2 potential ATGs in the making if they can both keep injury free but they both have frailties, so this will be the biggest challenge for them to overcome if they want to sustain this level.
 
Like I said before:

2017 went to Hasan.
2018 is Bumrah's year

Many more years to come.
 
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I think Bumrah has reached another level now, he is the best bowler in the world right now by a good distance.. Will be interesting to see how long he can carry on bowling like this, the team management should preserve Bumrah and rest him from useless matches to prolong his peak.

Hasan has been found wanting he did have a brilliant CT but his height seems to be a problem for him.
 
Hasan Ali has so much potential he was absolutely terrific in some of his spells in 2017 CT.

After that i think arrogance and over confidence got the better of him.

Going to Wagah, doing that stupid celebration on every wicket, that ridiculous chain he used to wear around his neck etc etc just turned him into a joke who was more hype than performance.

What is to be liked about Bumrah is him staying down to earth. Playing for India, being that special talent, he has everything going his way, fame money women! Great to see him staying grounded.
 
I formally request moderators to close this thread and change title to Bumrah is definitely better than Hasan Ali.

/Case closed.
 
Man of the match today for Bumrah

His death over bowling is amazing
 
The streak is Alive said:
But the more important question is..do you see it turning around for Hasan? Or do you think Pak will move on?
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He is still young, so has time on his side.

After the WC I want him to go back to domestic and play some cricket.

Work on his length etc.

And I believe he will come back as better bowler.
 
Players can have bad form, bad year. There's no reason to kick them while they are down.

Although, with Hassan (and I think this applies for most of Pakistan team) the success of CT has done more harm than good. Its filled a sense of belief in many of these players that they have already reached the pinnacle. The kind of cricket Pakistan has produced since then has been very disappointing and isn't befitting the talent many players possess including Hassan. New coach of Pakistan cricket has to sort this out before next big tournament, which is 1 year away.
 
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