Jay Shah invites BCB, SLC, ACB but not PCB to attend the IPL final and then discuss Asia Cup

[shah9425]

So India should never host any ICC event?

Yeah they don't deserve to host

 

[rpant_gabba]

Yeah they don't deserve to host

Why?

Who does deserve? and why?

 

[Hitman]

Pakistan only got part of hosting fee from cwc 2011 which pcb was also supposed to host

Who is to be blamed for that? You seriously expected teams to visit Pakistan back then after what happened there to the SL team in early 2009?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Who is to be blamed for that? You seriously expected teams to visit Pakistan back then after what happened there to the SL team in early 2009?

Generally people blame terrorists for terrorist attacks and not the victim country itself.

I mean India's whole shtick recently is that terrorists are to be blamed for Mumbai attacks.

Would you react kindly if we tried to politicise the blame for this event by asking Indians to blame themselves and their own security forces?

Please give the same respect in this case.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Care to show statements from BCCI?

MUMBAI: The Supreme Court-appointed Committee of Administrators (CoA) has drafted a letter addressed to Shashank Manohar, the chairman of the International Cricket Council (ICC), asking that the game's global governing body should ban Pakistan from participating in the 2019 50-over World Cup or India may consider withdrawing themselves from the tournament.

TOI understands that CoA chairman Vinod Rai will take a call on Thursday, after thorough legal consultations, on whether or not the ICC needs to be communicated.

It is learnt that the letter has been drafted by the office of BCCI CEO Rahul Johri after express approval from Rai. "In the light of the recent terrorist attack in Kashmir, the Board is of the view that the ICC should ban Pakistan from participating," say sources, sharing the content of the drafted note.

The Board will take a final call today on if and when the letter should be sent to the ICC. Meanwhile, the parent body, it is learnt, has not received any verbal or unofficial communication on this front yet and have no inkling whatsoever of BCCI's present views on the matter.
Ganguly

"Either way, BCCI can't take a stand on this. Nations have suffered disputes but that hasn't led to non-participation in global events like FIFA and Olympics. This is merely a political gimmick," say sources.

Those who follow the dynamics of the global sports industry dismiss the stand being taken by BCCI at this moment. "BCCI can't do anything like that. Asking a governing body to ban a country from participating in a global event is easier said than done. It's a multi-nation tournament, not run at one member board's personal discretion. They should try not to make a fool of themselves here".

The ICC is scheduled to organise a scheduling workshop for all member boards from February 24-26 and TOI understands that BCCI hasn't yet taken any consensus on this prevailing idea from other cricket-playing nations yet.

"How the ICC works is simple. It will be put to vote. It's not India's discretion that'll work here - that is if things go to that extent in the first place. There has to be a general consensus on the matter and BCCI still hasn't worked out if there is any," sources add.

Rai and Johri remained unavailable for comments. The other individuals TOI spoke to did not want to come on record but maintained that "BCCI is being foolish here if it actually sends this letter. It can take a call on its own participation. Not that of another country. Either way, there will be heavy legal consequences involved."

India is scheduled to play Pakistan at the World Cup on June 16 at Manchester, tickets for which have already been sold out. "It is one World Cup game that takes less than 48 to 72 hours to get sold out. It's not wrong to say India versus Pakistan alone generates half the World Cup revenue," say those with an industry perspective.

The CoA's draft - one on which there's no confirmation yet if it will be sent to the ICC or not - could be a result of multiple concerns. "There could be pressure from the government. There's public sentiment and emotion that BCCI could take into account. The Board itself is influenced by individuals at many levels who have serious political interests. Pick your choice. But what's certainly the case is that this draft is not a result of BCCI's own uneasiness about playing Pakistan," say sources.

https://m.timesofindia.com/sports/c...n-from-world-cup/amp_articleshow/68089643.cms

 

[Hitman]

MUMBAI: The Supreme Court-appointed Committee of Administrators (CoA) has drafted a letter addressed to Shashank Manohar, the chairman of the International Cricket Council (ICC), asking that the game's global governing body should ban Pakistan from participating in the 2019 50-over World Cup or India may consider withdrawing themselves from the tournament.

TOI understands that CoA chairman Vinod Rai will take a call on Thursday, after thorough legal consultations, on whether or not the ICC needs to be communicated.

It is learnt that the letter has been drafted by the office of BCCI CEO Rahul Johri after express approval from Rai. "In the light of the recent terrorist attack in Kashmir, the Board is of the view that the ICC should ban Pakistan from participating," say sources, sharing the content of the drafted note.

The Board will take a final call today on if and when the letter should be sent to the ICC. Meanwhile, the parent body, it is learnt, has not received any verbal or unofficial communication on this front yet and have no inkling whatsoever of BCCI's present views on the matter.
Ganguly

"Either way, BCCI can't take a stand on this. Nations have suffered disputes but that hasn't led to non-participation in global events like FIFA and Olympics. This is merely a political gimmick," say sources.

Those who follow the dynamics of the global sports industry dismiss the stand being taken by BCCI at this moment. "BCCI can't do anything like that. Asking a governing body to ban a country from participating in a global event is easier said than done. It's a multi-nation tournament, not run at one member board's personal discretion. They should try not to make a fool of themselves here".

The ICC is scheduled to organise a scheduling workshop for all member boards from February 24-26 and TOI understands that BCCI hasn't yet taken any consensus on this prevailing idea from other cricket-playing nations yet.

"How the ICC works is simple. It will be put to vote. It's not India's discretion that'll work here - that is if things go to that extent in the first place. There has to be a general consensus on the matter and BCCI still hasn't worked out if there is any," sources add.

Rai and Johri remained unavailable for comments. The other individuals TOI spoke to did not want to come on record but maintained that "BCCI is being foolish here if it actually sends this letter. It can take a call on its own participation. Not that of another country. Either way, there will be heavy legal consequences involved."

India is scheduled to play Pakistan at the World Cup on June 16 at Manchester, tickets for which have already been sold out. "It is one World Cup game that takes less than 48 to 72 hours to get sold out. It's not wrong to say India versus Pakistan alone generates half the World Cup revenue," say those with an industry perspective.

The CoA's draft - one on which there's no confirmation yet if it will be sent to the ICC or not - could be a result of multiple concerns. "There could be pressure from the government. There's public sentiment and emotion that BCCI could take into account. The Board itself is influenced by individuals at many levels who have serious political interests. Pick your choice. But what's certainly the case is that this draft is not a result of BCCI's own uneasiness about playing Pakistan," say sources.

https://m.timesofindia.com/sports/c...n-from-world-cup/amp_articleshow/68089643.cms

Nowhere it says that any BCCI official made an official statement. All it mentions is sources, nothing else. And CoA was imposed by the Supreme Court of India on the BCCI. Anything the CoA did or say had nothing to do with BCCI.

 

[Hitman]

Generally people blame terrorists for terrorist attacks and not the victim country itself.

I mean India's whole shtick recently is that terrorists are to be blamed for Mumbai attacks.

Would you react kindly if we tried to politicise the blame for this event by asking Indians to blame themselves and their own security forces?

Please give the same respect in this case.

Where exactly did I blame Pakistan? I was just asking the poster whether he expected Pakistan to be the co-host of the 2011 World Cup after the attack on Sri Lankan players.

 

[JaDed]

I absolutely feel ashamed how petty Shah father duo son are , representing our cricket board.

 

[rpant_gabba]

I absolutely feel ashamed how petty Shah father duo son are , representing our cricket board.

Becos they didn't invite PCB? for a balanced poster this is way off keel.

PCB was invited the last 2 times. They spit in BCCI's face and gloated about it. You are going to have to realize that not every one enjoys being a doormat.

Things need to come to head between BCCI and PCB and resolve it once and for all. I'm glad Najam Sethi and Wasim Khan are facilitating this.

Hope they have the fortitude to see it through.

 

[rpant_gabba]

MUMBAI: The Supreme Court-appointed Committee of Administrators (CoA) has drafted a letter addressed to Shashank Manohar, the chairman of the International Cricket Council (ICC), asking that the game's global governing body should ban Pakistan from participating in the 2019 50-over World Cup or India may consider withdrawing themselves from the tournament.

TOI understands that CoA chairman Vinod Rai will take a call on Thursday, after thorough legal consultations, on whether or not the ICC needs to be communicated.

It is learnt that the letter has been drafted by the office of BCCI CEO Rahul Johri after express approval from Rai. "In the light of the recent terrorist attack in Kashmir, the Board is of the view that the ICC should ban Pakistan from participating," say sources, sharing the content of the drafted note.

The Board will take a final call today on if and when the letter should be sent to the ICC. Meanwhile, the parent body, it is learnt, has not received any verbal or unofficial communication on this front yet and have no inkling whatsoever of BCCI's present views on the matter.
Ganguly

"Either way, BCCI can't take a stand on this. Nations have suffered disputes but that hasn't led to non-participation in global events like FIFA and Olympics. This is merely a political gimmick," say sources.

Those who follow the dynamics of the global sports industry dismiss the stand being taken by BCCI at this moment. "BCCI can't do anything like that. Asking a governing body to ban a country from participating in a global event is easier said than done. It's a multi-nation tournament, not run at one member board's personal discretion. They should try not to make a fool of themselves here".

The ICC is scheduled to organise a scheduling workshop for all member boards from February 24-26 and TOI understands that BCCI hasn't yet taken any consensus on this prevailing idea from other cricket-playing nations yet.

"How the ICC works is simple. It will be put to vote. It's not India's discretion that'll work here - that is if things go to that extent in the first place. There has to be a general consensus on the matter and BCCI still hasn't worked out if there is any," sources add.

Rai and Johri remained unavailable for comments. The other individuals TOI spoke to did not want to come on record but maintained that "BCCI is being foolish here if it actually sends this letter. It can take a call on its own participation. Not that of another country. Either way, there will be heavy legal consequences involved."

India is scheduled to play Pakistan at the World Cup on June 16 at Manchester, tickets for which have already been sold out. "It is one World Cup game that takes less than 48 to 72 hours to get sold out. It's not wrong to say India versus Pakistan alone generates half the World Cup revenue," say those with an industry perspective.

The CoA's draft - one on which there's no confirmation yet if it will be sent to the ICC or not - could be a result of multiple concerns. "There could be pressure from the government. There's public sentiment and emotion that BCCI could take into account. The Board itself is influenced by individuals at many levels who have serious political interests. Pick your choice. But what's certainly the case is that this draft is not a result of BCCI's own uneasiness about playing Pakistan," say sources.

https://m.timesofindia.com/sports/c...n-from-world-cup/amp_articleshow/68089643.cms

Seriously? i that all you have? sources quoting wish list of people who are not in any way associated with the BCCI?

I mean, I thought you had BCCI chief giving interviews to social media platforms like youtube.

 

[Hitman]

Becos they didn't invite PCB? for a balanced poster this is way off keel.

PCB was invited the last 2 times. They spit in BCCI's face and gloated about it. You are going to have to realize that not every one enjoys being a doormat.

Things need to come to head between BCCI and PCB and resolve it once and for all. I'm glad Najam Sethi and Wasim Khan are facilitating this.

Hope they have the fortitude to see it through.

This is something a lot of posters have missed.

 

[light]

So India should never host any ICC event?

Not talking about an ICC event, I am talking about regular tournaments like the Asia cup, tri-nation series, etc. Why make the fans go through this drama? Neither the BCCI or PCB should host asicup ever again till they sort their things out. If they decide to host it, do it at a neutral venue. No reason why SLC/BCB/AFC/etc has to go through this playing favorite and choosing side because these two don't get along well.

When it comes to ICC events' it's up to ICC to decide what to do (most likely will side with BCCI).

 

[light]

Bro you are making 100s of posts about some tinpot trophy that you cant even remember the name of.

How big a trophy was this nandos peri peri cup really if you can't even recall its name?

Ah, now trying to play dumb. Again, nothing to do with my point because I did not spell the name of the tournament right. Please enlighten me on how my spelling of the name of the tournament wrong has anything to do with the point i shared? You have nothing to say against it instead want to zig-zag into a complete different argument? In fact, every single one of your arguments is zig-zagging around my points, trying to find nonsense out of nothing. Tackle what I pointed out if you can and we can have a discussion about it.

 

[rpant_gabba]

Not talking about an ICC event, I am talking about regular tournaments like the Asia cup, tri-nation series, etc. Why make the fans go through this drama? Neither the BCCI or PCB should host asicup ever again till they sort their things out. If they decide to host it, do it at a neutral venue. No reason why SLC/BCB/AFC/etc has to go through this playing favorite and choosing side because these two don't get along well.

When it comes to ICC events' it's up to ICC to decide what to do (most likely will side with BCCI).

I'm having trouble following your logic here, out side of Asia and ICC tournaments where else Pak and India have played since 2008? (the series in 2012 my Kongress-MMS was a dumb idea and they paid a price for it.)

So you are trying to solve a non-existent problem while ignoring the elephant in the room?

I personally think all this stuff should be sorted once and for all. Including ICC tournaments.

 

[Usman Chadda]

CT will be shifted from Pakistan regardless of what happens now.

 

[Rajdeep]

I absolutely feel ashamed how petty Shah father duo son are , representing our cricket board.

That is your political bias speaking mate. This entire concept of big 3, usurping of power and alienation of Pakistan was started by N.Srinivasan. Those MOU saga and all. Ofcourse you won't feel ashamed bcoz he is from your state and owner of CSK (a franchise once banned for corruption).

Love the way how you guys blame everything on Jay Shah as if previous BCCI heads were buddies with PCB.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I absolutely feel ashamed how petty Shah father duo son are , representing our cricket board.

That's your hatred towards them speaking.

The likes of N Srinivasan meted out even worse treatment.

 

[cricketjoshila]

MUMBAI: The Supreme Court-appointed Committee of Administrators (CoA) has drafted a letter addressed to Shashank Manohar, the chairman of the International Cricket Council (ICC), asking that the game's global governing body should ban Pakistan from participating in the 2019 50-over World Cup or India may consider withdrawing themselves from the tournament.

TOI understands that CoA chairman Vinod Rai will take a call on Thursday, after thorough legal consultations, on whether or not the ICC needs to be communicated.

It is learnt that the letter has been drafted by the office of BCCI CEO Rahul Johri after express approval from Rai. "In the light of the recent terrorist attack in Kashmir, the Board is of the view that the ICC should ban Pakistan from participating," say sources, sharing the content of the drafted note.

The Board will take a final call today on if and when the letter should be sent to the ICC. Meanwhile, the parent body, it is learnt, has not received any verbal or unofficial communication on this front yet and have no inkling whatsoever of BCCI's present views on the matter.
Ganguly

"Either way, BCCI can't take a stand on this. Nations have suffered disputes but that hasn't led to non-participation in global events like FIFA and Olympics. This is merely a political gimmick," say sources.

Those who follow the dynamics of the global sports industry dismiss the stand being taken by BCCI at this moment. "BCCI can't do anything like that. Asking a governing body to ban a country from participating in a global event is easier said than done. It's a multi-nation tournament, not run at one member board's personal discretion. They should try not to make a fool of themselves here".

The ICC is scheduled to organise a scheduling workshop for all member boards from February 24-26 and TOI understands that BCCI hasn't yet taken any consensus on this prevailing idea from other cricket-playing nations yet.

"How the ICC works is simple. It will be put to vote. It's not India's discretion that'll work here - that is if things go to that extent in the first place. There has to be a general consensus on the matter and BCCI still hasn't worked out if there is any," sources add.

Rai and Johri remained unavailable for comments. The other individuals TOI spoke to did not want to come on record but maintained that "BCCI is being foolish here if it actually sends this letter. It can take a call on its own participation. Not that of another country. Either way, there will be heavy legal consequences involved."

India is scheduled to play Pakistan at the World Cup on June 16 at Manchester, tickets for which have already been sold out. "It is one World Cup game that takes less than 48 to 72 hours to get sold out. It's not wrong to say India versus Pakistan alone generates half the World Cup revenue," say those with an industry perspective.

The CoA's draft - one on which there's no confirmation yet if it will be sent to the ICC or not - could be a result of multiple concerns. "There could be pressure from the government. There's public sentiment and emotion that BCCI could take into account. The Board itself is influenced by individuals at many levels who have serious political interests. Pick your choice. But what's certainly the case is that this draft is not a result of BCCI's own uneasiness about playing Pakistan," say sources.

https://m.timesofindia.com/sports/c...n-from-world-cup/amp_articleshow/68089643.cms

Thats not a official statement. Some "Source".

 

[cricketjoshila]

Who is to be blamed for that? You seriously expected teams to visit Pakistan back then after what happened there to the SL team in early 2009?

PCB was to host 14 matches.

For each match ICC gave a hosting fee of $750k. So PCB got the full $10.5mn.

On top of that they received more money as part of the host profits.

Total close to $16mn.

$16mn without doing anything.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

That is your political bias speaking mate. This entire concept of big 3, usurping of power and alienation of Pakistan was started by N.Srinivasan. Those MOU saga and all. Ofcourse you won't feel ashamed bcoz he is from your state and owner of CSK (a franchise once banned for corruption).

Love the way how you guys blame everything on Jay Shah as if previous BCCI heads were buddies with PCB.

Nope, it is actually your political bias. I know it is your duty to defend your masters here but keep aside your 'andhbhakhti' and look at Mr Jay Shah. On what basis he became BCCI's secretary? What are his credentials other than being the son of 'tadipar' Amit Shah? This guy can't speak properly even after using a teleprompter, he behaves like a spoiled brat during matches by making obscene gestures and people can't even feel ashamed of these guys?

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Nowhere it says that any BCCI official made an official statement. All it mentions is sources, nothing else. And CoA was imposed by the Supreme Court of India on the BCCI. Anything the CoA did or say had nothing to do with BCCI.

COA was appointed to run BCCI.. so they were representing BCCI.. as per news letter was drafted to send it to ICC calling for exclusion of Pakistan.. point is these kinds of gimmick happen from both sides.. do not just point out Pakistan side and justify BCCI's bullying

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

PCB was to host 14 matches.

For each match ICC gave a hosting fee of $750k. So PCB got the full $10.5mn.

On top of that they received more money as part of the host profits.

Total close to $16mn.

$16mn without doing anything.

So thats wrong? PCB was host and they got what they were promised when wc was shifted from Pakistan.. you are making no sense.. how this 16 M $ paid by icc is hurting BcCI? Your whole argument is that PCB did some bad stuff to bcci , so thats why whatever bcci is doing now is justified.. your COA representing bcci drafted a letter reported by every media outlet in India and COA was ready to send it to icc for Pakistan's exclusion.. how is that just a source? You have problem with Ehsan Mani saying some senseless stuff and you keep mentioning it to justify bcci bullying but you got no problem witb COA considering to send letter to icc from Pakistan's exclusion from wc.. i get it.. no matter what you will justify your Board

 

[JaDed]

That is your political bias speaking mate. This entire concept of big 3, usurping of power and alienation of Pakistan was started by N.Srinivasan. Those MOU saga and all. Ofcourse you won't feel ashamed bcoz he is from your state and owner of CSK (a franchise once banned for corruption).

Love the way how you guys blame everything on Jay Shah as if previous BCCI heads were buddies with PCB.

That's your hatred towards them speaking.

The likes of N Srinivasan meted out even worse treatment.

Srini is a legend(joke).. but did you ever see him make gestures during an IPL game? Is Jay Shah whom you want to represent our team at national level?

Are you saying Srini wasn’t a better administrator than Jay Shah with his poker face?

 

[sam_ahm]

Pakistan better play some cricket soon otherwise fans are just stuck with this unending Aisa Cup, World Cup boycott/no boycott talk.

 

[JaDed]

Becos they didn't invite PCB? for a balanced poster this is way off keel.

PCB was invited the last 2 times. They spit in BCCI's face and gloated about it. You are going to have to realize that not every one enjoys being a doormat.

Things need to come to head between BCCI and PCB and resolve it once and for all. I'm glad Najam Sethi and Wasim Khan are facilitating this.

Hope they have the fortitude to see it through.

No because of going out of you way to alienate PCB but others are fair point.
What was the issue with hybrid model?

 

[Rajdeep]

Srini is a legend(joke).. but did you ever see him make gestures during an IPL game? Is Jay Shah whom you want to represent our team at national level?

Are you saying Srini wasn’t a better administrator than Jay Shah with his poker face?

What has making some gesture during IPL game has got anything to do with this? It was a high octane IPL final and he like most people got excited on the last ball, made some gestures. But what has that got to do anything with what we are discussing? The discussion here is treatment against Pakistan board and showing the might of BCCI on which you are ashamed off. No one has bullied other boards more than N.Srinivasan but you were never ashamed of him. That is why I said your political bias is speaking here. You don't like BJP and since Jay Shah is home minister's son you are ashamed of him. Lets not kid ourselves.

 

[JaDed]

What has making some gesture during IPL game has got anything to do with this? It was a high octane IPL final and he like most people got excited on the last ball, made some gestures. But what has that got to do anything with what we are discussing? The discussion here is treatment against Pakistan board and showing the might of BCCI on which you are ashamed off. No one has bullied other boards more than N.Srinivasan but you were never ashamed of him. That is why I said your political bias is speaking here. You don't like BJP and since Jay Shah is home minister's son you are ashamed of him. Lets not kid ourselves.

You responded to my post which said I don’t like Jay Shah representing us.. did you respond to a wrong post?
He is the head not a peon at BCCI to make such gestures

 

[rpant_gabba]

COA was appointed to run BCCI.. so they were representing BCCI.. as per news letter was drafted to send it to ICC calling for exclusion of Pakistan.. point is these kinds of gimmick happen from both sides.. do not just point out Pakistan side and justify BCCI's bullying

Guess you didn't even read the article correctly.

The rumor reported by TOI is that there was letter to COA which COA might consider.

>>>>It is learnt that the letter has been drafted by the office of BCCI CEO Rahul Johri after express approval from Rai. <<<<

This was the meat of the rumor. rest was a confusing word salad.

From this you interpreted that letter sent to ICC? huh.

 

[rpant_gabba]

No because of going out of you way to alienate PCB but others are fair point.
What was the issue with hybrid model?

Going out of the way to alienate PCB? Why would you invite a guest who is doing all they can to insult you in the past? Glad your thought process is not in BCCI.

Guess you haven't been paying attention. Wasim Khan at ICC implied that same hybrid model will apply to WC also.

 

[rpant_gabba]

So thats wrong? PCB was host and they got what they were promised when wc was shifted from Pakistan.. you are making no sense.. how this 16 M $ paid by icc is hurting BcCI? Your whole argument is that PCB did some bad stuff to bcci , so thats why whatever bcci is doing now is justified.. your COA representing bcci drafted a letter reported by every media outlet in India and COA was ready to send it to icc for Pakistan's exclusion.. how is that just a source? You have problem with Ehsan Mani saying some senseless stuff and you keep mentioning it to justify bcci bullying but you got no problem witb COA considering to send letter to icc from Pakistan's exclusion from wc.. i get it.. no matter what you will justify your Board

They were also supposed to provide presidential level security to the SL team. Was that presidential level security in 2009?

 

[cricketjoshila]

COA was appointed to run BCCI.. so they were representing BCCI.. as per news letter was drafted to send it to ICC calling for exclusion of Pakistan.. point is these kinds of gimmick happen from both sides.. do not just point out Pakistan side and justify BCCI's bullying

CoA was a temporary body that has been widely cricticized for their work. They had no accountability and did whatever pleased them.

If not for the Supreme Court provided protection from prosecution, they would have been sued for
Mismanagement.

 

[cricketjoshila]

So thats wrong? PCB was host and they got what they were promised when wc was shifted from Pakistan.. you are making no sense.. how this 16 M $ paid by icc is hurting BcCI? Your whole argument is that PCB did some bad stuff to bcci , so thats why whatever bcci is doing now is justified.. your COA representing bcci drafted a letter reported by every media outlet in India and COA was ready to send it to icc for Pakistan's exclusion.. how is that just a source? You have problem with Ehsan Mani saying some senseless stuff and you keep mentioning it to justify bcci bullying but you got no problem witb COA considering to send letter to icc from Pakistan's exclusion from wc.. i get it.. no matter what you will justify your Board

WC was shifted because Pakistan was unsafe and no team was willing to visit Pakistan. Was security failure not Pakistan's fault?

Yet they tried to stall the tournament with lawsuits. And took the 16mn which actually belonged to the countries who spent money to host the tournament. SLC was literally bankrupt after hosting the WC. They deserved the money. Not PCB. BCCI took a hit as well but they had millions in the bank to take care of it.

Why did Pakistan deserve that 16mn? Why? For having a security failure?

My opinion on the COA is already posted above.

 

[cricketjoshila]

No because of going out of you way to alienate PCB but others are fair point.
What was the issue with hybrid model?

And why should BCCI not look after its own interests?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Srini is a legend(joke).. but did you ever see him make gestures during an IPL game? Is Jay Shah whom you want to represent our team at national level?

Are you saying Srini wasn’t a better administrator than Jay Shah with his poker face?

Why did the Supreme Court remove Srini?

 

[Babeikh]

Can they just get on with it and make a decision please? Are they waiting for the Sun to rise from the west before deciding? We don't have that kind of time

 

[cricketjoshila]

[MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION]

I have a lot of issues with how the BCCI has been run since last 10-12 years and Jay Shah is no exception.

But the handling of the Asia Cup isn't one of them

 

[Ryw]

Watch the following video and read the bolded part again. You will start laughing.

Although his Eng skills are not upto the mark but his buisness skills and removing future hurdles that gonna come in his buisness proposals are right on money
Jay Shah is tackling all Pak cricket board moves/threats with grace.
There is still time left, send an official appology to Ind,participate Asia Cup on Neutral venue and come to Ind for WC 2023

 

[shah9425]

Although his Eng skills are not upto the mark but his buisness skills and removing future hurdles that gonna come in his buisness proposals are right on money
Jay Shah is tackling all Pak cricket board moves/threats with grace.
There is still time left, send an official appology to Ind,participate Asia Cup on Neutral venue and come to Ind for WC 2023

Apology for what?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

They were also supposed to provide presidential level security to the SL team. Was that presidential level security in 2009?

2009? We are in 2023. Wake up. Pakistan has successfully hosted NZ, Aus and Eng recently. Are you going to deliberately ignore that? Forget Pakistan, some of you can't even see India play against Pakistan at neutral venue. Just accept that you can't see Pakistan hosting a tournament successfully and get done with these petty excuses. Any real cricket fan would like to see India play against Pakistan regularly.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Apology for what?

Apology for standing up for themselves against a bully.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

And why should BCCI not look after its own interests?

Only BCCI has a right to look after its own interests lol. When other boards like PCB do the same, they are expected to bow down and apologise to BCCI.

 

[sam_ahm]

Only BCCI has a right to look after its own interests lol. When other boards like PCB do the same, they are expected to bow down and apologise to BCCI.

It's the financial muscle of the BCCI. In this entire episode I do agree that PCB are not wrong in anyways. They are absolutely right in standing for their Hosting rights. They've been flexible enough to propose hybrid model and also for India to play at neutral venue. On the face of it they've done nothing wrong.

But given the might of the BCCI, I think PCB should act smartly here and avoid drastic steps like boycotting the WC or getting into fight with other boards. That won't help them in any manner and isolation of Pak cricket is what BCCI wants anyways. They need to act smart even if it means agreeing to the BCCI for the time being.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Generally people blame terrorists for terrorist attacks and not the victim country itself.

I mean India's whole shtick recently is that terrorists are to be blamed for Mumbai attacks.

Would you react kindly if we tried to politicise the blame for this event by asking Indians to blame themselves and their own security forces?

Please give the same respect in this case.

All the anti Pakistani posters here are missing this point and it shows their hypocrisy.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Generally people blame terrorists for terrorist attacks and not the victim country itself.

I mean India's whole shtick recently is that terrorists are to be blamed for Mumbai attacks.

Would you react kindly if we tried to politicise the blame for this event by asking Indians to blame themselves and their own security forces?

Please give the same respect in this case.

You are right. You can see some hypocrites still bringing 2009 attack into discussion forgetting completely that Pakistan has successfully hosted Aus, NZ and Eng recently. If you try to remind them of 2008 Mumbai attacks and how many matches Mumbai has hosted after that attack, they will come back with 'no team was attacked, only locals were killed, so it is safe for teams to play in Mumbai'. May be they forgot more than 20 foreign nationals were killed in that attack. If they have moved on from 2008 Mumbai attacks then they should move on from 2009 attacks also. They shouldn't use 2009 attacks as an excuse to not travel Pakistan in 2023.

 

[Rajdeep]

You are right. You can see some hypocrites still bringing 2009 attack into discussion forgetting completely that Pakistan has successfully hosted Aus, NZ and Eng recently. If you try to remind them of 2008 Mumbai attacks and how many matches Mumbai has hosted after that attack, they will come back with 'no team was attacked, only locals were killed, so it is safe for teams to play in Mumbai'. May be they forgot more than 20 foreign nationals were killed in that attack. If they have moved on from 2008 Mumbai attacks then they should move on from 2009 attacks also. They shouldn't use 2009 attacks as an excuse to not travel Pakistan in 2023.

Cricket team was attacked in Mumbai?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Cricket team was attacked in Mumbai?

Already covered in my post. Read properly.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Generally people blame terrorists for terrorist attacks and not the victim country itself.

I mean India's whole shtick recently is that terrorists are to be blamed for Mumbai attacks.

Would you react kindly if we tried to politicise the blame for this event by asking Indians to blame themselves and their own security forces?

Please give the same respect in this case.

No one is going to risk their lives to prove their sympathy.

 

[ahsan17]

All the BCCI antics have got me thinking - why doesn't BCCI give an ultimatum to ICC that either BCCI can be a member of ICC or PCB can be, but not. Anyone with an iota of common sense sees that BCCI wants to isolate PCB. Why all the smoke and mirrors and not something more direct?

 

[Hitman]

All the BCCI antics have got me thinking - why doesn't BCCI give an ultimatum to ICC that either BCCI can be a member of ICC or PCB can be, but not. Anyone with an iota of common sense sees that BCCI wants to isolate PCB. Why all the smoke and mirrors and not something more direct?

What exactly has the BCCI done to isolate Pakistan cricket? All they have maintained is that they won’t play any bilateral series with Pakistan, and they won’t visit Pakistan.

Apart from that, what else?

 

[rpant_gabba]

All the BCCI antics have got me thinking - why doesn't BCCI give an ultimatum to ICC that either BCCI can be a member of ICC or PCB can be, but not. Anyone with an iota of common sense sees that BCCI wants to isolate PCB. Why all the smoke and mirrors and not something more direct?

BCCI also can ask the same question. If PCB was wiling to boycitt india over Babri masjid issue in the 90's, why not boycott India now. Becos things are worse Indian muslims now tha nit was in the 90's according to Pakistanis.

 

[ahsan17]

What exactly has the BCCI done to isolate Pakistan cricket? All they have maintained is that they won’t play any bilateral series with Pakistan, and they won’t visit Pakistan.

Apart from that, what else?

You mean besides the obvious attempt to shift Asia Cup and CT out of Pakistan for no good reason, including games that don't involve India?

 

[cricketjoshila]

All the BCCI antics have got me thinking - why doesn't BCCI give an ultimatum to ICC that either BCCI can be a member of ICC or PCB can be, but not. Anyone with an iota of common sense sees that BCCI wants to isolate PCB. Why all the smoke and mirrors and not something more direct?

BCCI doesn't want to visit Pakistan or have any bilaterals with pakistan.

That doesn't stop Pakistan from playing others.

 

[ahsan17]

BCCI also can ask the same question. If PCB was wiling to boycitt india over Babri masjid issue in the 90's, why not boycott India now. Becos things are worse Indian muslims now tha nit was in the 90's according to Pakistanis.

PCB wasn't trying to move tournaments out of India where it had no business doing so, in the same way India is trying to.

 

[ahsan17]

BCCI doesn't want to visit Pakistan or have any bilaterals with pakistan.

That doesn't stop Pakistan from playing others.

You must be planning on playing some mental gymnastics here, but I will entertain it for a few seconds. Have you heard about BCCi wanting to move Asia Cup or CT out of Pakistan?

 

[Hitman]

You mean besides the obvious attempt to shift Asia Cup and CT out of Pakistan for no good reason, including games that don't involve India?

BCCI trying to shift CT away from Pakistan? Please provide a link?

 

[Hitman]

You must be planning on playing some mental gymnastics here, but I will entertain it for a few seconds. Have you heard about BCCi wanting to move Asia Cup or CT out of Pakistan?

No, none of us have heard BCCI trying to move CT away from Pakistan.

 

[cricketjoshila]

You must be planning on playing some mental gymnastics here, but I will entertain it for a few seconds. Have you heard about BCCi wanting to move Asia Cup or CT out of Pakistan?

Have you heard about Najam Sethi's claim that he and PCB forced ACC to shift the Asia Cup 2018 out of India?


The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) on Tuesday accepted Pakistan's reservations against playing in India and decided to move the Asia Cup 2018 to United Arab Emirates.

The decision was taken in the annual session of the ACC chaired by its president and Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) Chairman Najam Sethi after Pakistan objected to playing in India.


https://www.dawn.com/news/1400762

How is BCCI doing anything different?

 

[cricketjoshila]

PCB wasn't trying to move tournaments out of India where it had no business doing so, in the same way India is trying to.

Now the second part.

Why isn't PCB hosting the tournament without India?

 

[rpant_gabba]

PCB wasn't trying to move tournaments out of India where it had no business doing so, in the same way India is trying to.

Post #295

 

[U$ofA]

All the BCCI antics have got me thinking - why doesn't BCCI give an ultimatum to ICC that either BCCI can be a member of ICC or PCB can be, but not. Anyone with an iota of common sense sees that BCCI wants to isolate PCB. Why all the smoke and mirrors and not something more direct?

Why would they? They are already getting what they want and doing what they want. There is no reason to shake the apple cart. I would say, smart move.

 

[JaDed]

The most annoying and punchable person associated with Indian cricket not because he is a cricketer or a good administrator but because his father is the DON of BJP!

 

[cricketjoshila]

The most annoying and punchable person associated with Indian cricket not because he is a cricketer or a good administrator but because his father is the DON of BJP!

How did Sharad Pawar become BCCI president?

Your hatred for BJP clouds your judgement.

 

[JaDed]

How did Sharad Pawar become BCCI president?

Your hatred for BJP clouds your judgement.

Stop the whataboutery only reason to support BJP is they portray they don’t believe in nepotism, you can’t have you cake and eat it to.

Then what’s the difference ??

 

[cricketjoshila]

Stop the whataboutery only reason to support BJP is they portray they don’t believe in nepotism, you can’t have you cake and eat it to.

Then what’s the difference ??

Jay Shah worked at the GCA since 2009. He oversaw the construction of the Narendra Modi Stadium.

He was elected to the BCCI finance committee in 2015.

He became BCCI secretary only in 2019.

He has worked his way up the ladder.

My reason to support BJP

1. Nationalist
2. Efficient
3 Business friendly
4. Not dependent on one family and isn't a family business.

 

[JaDed]

Jay Shah worked at the GCA since 2009. He oversaw the construction of the Narendra Modi Stadium.

He was elected to the BCCI finance committee in 2015.

He became BCCI secretary only in 2019.

He has worked his way up the ladder.

My reason to support BJP

1. Nationalist
2. Efficient
3 Business friendly
4. Not dependent on one family and isn't a family business.

So his entire portfolio is due to his father and then BJP fans have the audacity to mock Bollywood!

So clearly the guy has taken up positions above well deserving people!

 

[rpant_gabba]

So his entire portfolio is due to his father and then BJP fans have the audacity to mock Bollywood!

So clearly the guy has taken up positions above well deserving people!

Like shashank manohar?

 

[cricketjoshila]

So his entire portfolio is due to his father and then BJP fans have the audacity to mock Bollywood!

So clearly the guy has taken up positions above well deserving people!

Who are the deserving people in the BCCI who should replace Jay Shah?

Almost Every BCCI president came into picture because of someone backing him at the state and then he working his way up. Jay Shah is no exception.

 

[Thanos]

Since the discussion is going on about deserving candidates in BCCI chairs, does anyone know what leverage Rajiv shukla has in BCCI?
A Congress politician but always holds one or another position in BCCI, doesn't matter if central govt is of BJP or Congress. He is currently VP of BCCI.

 

[The_Last_Samurai]

Since the discussion is going on about deserving candidates in BCCI chairs, does anyone know what leverage Rajiv shukla has in BCCI?
A Congress politician but always holds one or another position in BCCI, doesn't matter if central govt is of BJP or Congress. He is currently VP of BCCI.

He is RamVilas Paswan of cricket administration. Always with the ruling set up, doesnt matter who rules.

 

[MenInG]

Disney+ Hotstar on Friday said more than half-a-billion smartphone users in India will be able to watch this year's Asia Cup and ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup for free on the OTT platform.

"The move to lift the paywall for mobile-only viewers of both, the Asia Cup and the ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup, is aimed at further democratizing the game of cricket and making it accessible to as many mobile users in India as possible for the duration of the season," the company said in a release.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

 

[MenInG]

Younis Khan speaking in a ceremony:

“Everyone [officials] should sit and talk regarding Asia Cup. If there’s no dialogue then the matter will not be resolved,”

“If there are no India-Pakistan matches, then there is no fun in cricket. If Pakistan plays India, everyone will benefit"

 

[cricketjoshila]

Seems a compromise has been reached.

 

[SM1989]

Seems a compromise has been reached.

Do you have details?

 

[MenInG]

Do you have details?

Rumours are like this: THIS IS NOT CONFIRMED

==

ACC has accepted the hybrid model that was proposed by PCB regarding the venue of the upcoming Asia Cup 2023.

All participants except India would play one match in Pakistan. In the second phase all teams including India would play their remaining matches in Sri Lanka.

 

[cricketjoshila]

9 matches in SL
4 in Pakistan

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Najam Sethi, the most useless Chairman to breathe air.

 

[MenInG]

The Asian Cricket Council headed by BCCI secretary Jay Shah could accept PCB chairman Najam Sethi's proposed Hybrid Model for conducting four non-India Asia Cup games in Pakistan while the rest of the matches will be played in Sri Lanka's Galle and Pallekele.

The ACC is likely to make a formal announcement on Tuesday and once the Hybrid Model is officially accepted, decks will be cleared for Pakistan team's travel to India for the ODI World Cup scheduled in October-November, including playing in Ahmedabad.

"Oman Cricket board chief Pankaj Khimji, one of the respected ACC executive board members, was entrusted to find a solution as most countries didn't want a Hybrid Model. But as of now four non-India games -- Pakistan vs Nepal, Bangladesh vs Afghanistan, Afghanistan vs Sri Lanka and Sri Lanka vs Bangladesh -- will be held at the Gadaffi Stadium in Lahore. The two India vs Pakistan games and all other Super Four Games will be held in either Pallekele or Galle," an ACC board member told PTI.

The Asia Cup is scheduled to be held in September.

It is understood that once ICC CEO Geoff Allardice and chairman Greg Barclay visited Karachi to meet Sethi, it was decided that Pakistan won't set any conditions to come for the World Cup, provided four games are held in the country as they have the hosting rights.

Playing a tournament without Pakistan would have meant that the broadcasters would be giving half the amount committed for the tournament because of two assured Indo-Pak games and may be a chance of a third, if the two teams reach the final.

The solution looked the most feasible one as this now will lead to Pakistan coming to India without setting any pre-conditions and the much-awaited schedule for the ODI World Cup will be released early next week.

India will probably play their World Cup match against Pakistan at the Narendra Modi stadium in Ahmedabad. Pakistan's remaining matches could be held in Chennai and Hyderabad.

https://m.rediff.com/cricket/report...-matches-to-be-held-in-sri-lanka/20230611.htm

 

[Hitman]

So, finally a solution.

 

[gazza619]

Yay finally Pakistani people (who are seen as fools by the PCB) will get to see Pakistan vs Nepal play in Lahore. This whole process was stupid from start to finish.

Expect a few security personnel and their dogs watching as people aint coming.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION]

Congratulations on hosting 4 games of the Asia Cup