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Jay Shah invites BCB, SLC, ACB but not PCB to attend the IPL final and then discuss Asia Cup

This is supposed to be a Pakistan-hosted tournament, it would be humiliating for PCB to send the team to another country to compete in it.


Why?

India sent it's team to UAE in 2018, which they were supposed to host. Sri Lanka did the same last year. Nothing embarassing about it.
 
As per some reports, PCB also wanted couple of super 4 games (non-India matches) to be played in Pak as well. So basically 4 initial games in Pak, then all teams fly to neutral venue to play India and then fly back to Pak to play 2 super four games and then back to neutral venue to play remaining games including finals. Its a logistical nightmare and BCCI not too keen.

Also, accpeting neutral venue now meaning setting a preceedent that it is a feasable model for future. Then PCB would want similar arrangement for WC 23 or future ICC events in India. Considering PCB only have to host India twice in neutral venues for Asia cup 23 and CT 25 but BCCI has plenty more ICC events lined up, BCCI will be bigger loser in this hybrid scenario. Its not one off for this Asia cup but it has deep inner consequence.

Bhai sahab, Pakistan are the hosts for the next Asia Cup. They would like to have as many games as possible in Pakistan. What's wrong in that? :kp

BCCI is acting like a bully here and want everything according to their needs. BCCI first wanted a neutral venue and now accepting neutral venue will set a precedent and BCCI will be a big loser if they accept this model lol? Just accept that BCCI and some small hearted fans can't see Pakistan hosting a tournament successfully. This is nothing else but excuses to stop Pakistan from hosting Asia Cup and hit them financially. :rabada2 :inti
 
Bhai sahab, Pakistan are the hosts for the next Asia Cup. They would like to have as many games as possible in Pakistan. What's wrong in that? :kp

BCCI is acting like a bully here and want everything according to their needs. BCCI first wanted a neutral venue and now accepting neutral venue will set a precedent and BCCI will be a big loser if they accept this model lol? Just accept that BCCI and some small hearted fans can't see Pakistan hosting a tournament successfully. This is nothing else but excuses to stop Pakistan from hosting Asia Cup and hit them financially. :rabada2 :inti

Bhaijaan, BCCI cannot send its team to Pakistan bcoz Govt of India prohibits them. That has been the stance from Day 1 and it will never change. Indian team will not travel even for CT 2025. So BCCI asked for neutral venue else they won't participate in Asia cup. PCB, being the host, simply could have arranged the tournament in Pakistan without India. But they wont as it would make loss bcoz without India-Pak game, Asia cup is meaningless. So they proposed hybrid model and want similar arrangement for future ICC events in India. Its a smart tactics but obviously BCCI wont fall for it.

Last 2 Asia cups happened in neutral venue and host boards made lots of profit. Infact, SLCB had made huge profits in last Asia cup. PCB could have simply done the same if they wanted India to play in it.
 
PCB should try to hold the Asia cup in Pakistan, without India.

India should hold the WC in India without Pakistan.

Pakistan should hold the CT in Pakistan without India.
 
PCB should try to hold the Asia cup in Pakistan, without India.

India should hold the WC in India without Pakistan.

Pakistan should hold the CT in Pakistan without India.

At the moment, this seems to be the simplest and quickest solution!
 
PCB should try to hold the Asia cup in Pakistan, without India.

India should hold the WC in India without Pakistan.

Pakistan should hold the CT in Pakistan without India.

yeah this is the solution. Yeah, we may miss India Pak matches but apart from rhetoric, they hardly live up to standards as far as quality of context is considered. People will just get on with their lives as they have been getting on with their lives without bilateral series.. no biggie
 
PCB should try to hold the Asia cup in Pakistan, without India.

India should hold the WC in India without Pakistan.

Pakistan should hold the CT in Pakistan without India.

Clean break. Why not?

We can revisit the issue when geopolitical rhada is over in some decades.
 
Yes.

Also tomorrow PCB will say we want bilaterals to resume or else we won't go to India for the 2026 T20 WC, the 2029 CT or 2031 WC.

BCCI won't handover this leverage to PCB. Actually the government won't allow this to happen.

Ok, but they have the right to host the Asia Cup this time around. Offered a Hybrid model to BCCI as well. This was unnecessary when all members accepted to play a couple of matches in PAK and also agreed to play the rest of the tournament in a neutral venue, even Pak was trying to accommodate BCCI with this request. To take a U-turn and take away the hosting right is not really called for (assuming the rumors are true).
 
Ok, but they have the right to host the Asia Cup this time around. Offered a Hybrid model to BCCI as well. This was unnecessary when all members accepted to play a couple of matches in PAK and also agreed to play the rest of the tournament in a neutral venue, even Pak was trying to accommodate BCCI with this request. To take a U-turn and take away the hosting right is not really called for (assuming the rumors are true).

It's clearly because the sitting govt (BJP) is actually anti-pakistan in every way, they actually use these statements to gain votes... it's all there to keep their voters happy, if it was the INC in power they would have no issue to tour us for Asia cup.
 
It's clearly because the sitting govt (BJP) is actually anti-pakistan in every way, they actually use these statements to gain votes... it's all there to keep their voters happy, if it was the INC in power they would have no issue to tour us for Asia cup.

Good hypothesis. Unfortunately does not stand up to data.

Indian tour of Pakistan in 2004 after 15 years: govt BJP

Suspension of tour to Pakistan in 2008: govt INC

till 2014: Govt INC. Tours to Pakistan =0
 
Clean break. Why not?

We can revisit the issue when geopolitical rhada is over in some decades.

This is actually quite laughable.

Can you explain again why Babar Azam is the bogeyman? And expand on why you need to move heaven and earth in order not to acknowledge your neighbours across the border as normal human beings who want to see cricket being played.

Final question - are you 100% sure you aren't being manipulated by your government?
 
1)This is actually quite laughable.

2) Can you explain again why Babar Azam is the bogeyman?

3) And expand on why you need to move heaven and earth in order not to acknowledge your neighbours across the border as normal human beings who want to see cricket being played.

4) Final question - are you 100% sure you aren't being manipulated by your government?

1) laughable? bit subjective isn't it? I laugh my *** off watching Life of Brian, many Christians don't.

2) Babar Azam wasn't mentioned any where in the message you quoted.

3) Don't think he has denied that. he just doesn't think its worth the headache for India and pakistan to have cricketing relations while being held hostage to whims of both governments and their foreign policies .

I'm of the opinion that let the big things get sorted out before worrying about silly stuff like cricket.

4) how does one even recognize if he or she is manipulated by the govt?
 
This is actually quite laughable.

Bit subjective: Life of Brian is hilarious in my book. most Christians don't agree.

Can you explain again why Babar Azam is the bogeyman?

Babar Azam isn't mentioned anywhere in the message you quoted

And expand on why you need to move heaven and earth in order not to acknowledge your neighbours across the border as normal human beings who want to see cricket being played.

Don't think he is doing that. He thinks big issues should be sorted out between India and Pakistan before dealing with silly stuff like cricket.

Final question - are you 100% sure you aren't being manipulated by your government?

How does one even recognize when he or she is being manipulated by the govt?
 
It's clearly because the sitting govt (BJP) is actually anti-pakistan in every way, they actually use these statements to gain votes... it's all there to keep their voters happy, if it was the INC in power they would have no issue to tour us for Asia cup.

This is why INC is not in power. This very perception people have about them.

But FYI,

It was the INC that suspended any India tours to Pakistan.
 
This is actually quite laughable.

Can you explain again why Babar Azam is the bogeyman? And expand on why you need to move heaven and earth in order not to acknowledge your neighbours across the border as normal human beings who want to see cricket being played.

Final question - are you 100% sure you aren't being manipulated by your government?

Babbar Azam? Who mentioned him?

How is it India's responsibility to make sure pakistanis play or don't play cricket?

Can you tell me what manipulation you are talking about?
 
This is actually quite laughable.

Can you explain again why Babar Azam is the bogeyman? And expand on why you need to move heaven and earth in order not to acknowledge your neighbours across the border as normal human beings who want to see cricket being played.

Final question - are you 100% sure you aren't being manipulated by your government?

I acknowledge all Pakistanis as normal human beings who want to see cricket. Just play on without India till we sort out our issues.

And yes, I am being manipulated by my government. Who are you being manipulated by?
 
PCB should try to hold the Asia cup in Pakistan, without India.

India should hold the WC in India without Pakistan.

Pakistan should hold the CT in Pakistan without India.

That will be the death of cricket

Pakistan should just appreciate the power of India and get aligned.
 
The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) is preparing for an Asia Cup without Pakistan, a move which could have serious ramifications on Babar Azam’s team’s participation in the World Cup in India in October-November.

BCCI secretary Jay Shah, who is also the chairman of the ACC, has made it clear to the other countries that they would not follow the ‘hybrid model’ as suggested by Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) chairman Najam Sethi. During his recent informal deliberations with the heads of member nations in Ahmedabad, Shah said that the tournament should be held at only one venue — Sri Lanka.

The PCB’s recommendation of a ‘hybrid model’ wherein 4/5 matches would be held in Pakistan while the rest, including all India matches, take place in Dubai has been rejected. India have cited the excessive heat in the UAE in September as the reason for their refusal.

Sources told The Telegraph that Pakistan will be categorically told at the next executive board meeting of the ACC that all other participating nations have agreed to play in Sri Lanka. PCB, the designated hosts for this edition, is not finding any takers for its proposal and has to abide by playing in Sri Lanka or pull out.

India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Afghanistan will be the four teams in the fray if Pakistan do not participate. Whether a fifth team will be included is yet to be decided.

India’s refusal to tour Pakistan and also not abiding by the ‘hybrid model’ could prompt Pakistan to consider extreme measures. International Cricket Council (ICC) chairman Greg Barclay and CEO Geoff Allardice are currently in Lahore seeking an assurance from Pakistan to participate in the World Cup.

The PCB is learnt to have told the ICC bosses that its participation in the World Cup depends on government clearance. Barclay and Allardice have had several rounds of meetings with the PCB officials on Monday and Tuesday.

“If the government says that we can play in India for the World Cup despite India not touring Pakistan for the Asia Cup then we will be ready to so,” Sethi told The Telegraph earlier this month.

The BCCI will also not agree if Pakistan wish to play their Cup matches at a neutral venue. “Play in India or nothing,” has been the message that has been sent out to the PCB and ICC. The fixtures for the World Cup are expected to be released during the World Test Championship final in London next week.

The PCB will issue a media release on the ICC’s visit on Thursday.

https://www.telegraphindia.com/spor...rticipation-in-world-cup-in-india/cid/1941162
 
If BCCI is able to pull off the Asia cup and WC without Pakistan, this will be Sethi's, Ijaz butt-IPL moment.
 
That will be the death of cricket

Pakistan should just appreciate the power of India and get aligned.

PCB will never do that. There is ego and then there are people around who will always advise PCB to confront BCCI.
 
And likewise, if BCCI can damage PCB in any way, they will try.

Since 2009 BCCI just wants to have nothing to do with PCB.

The old brass of BCCI had hoped relationship would be like late 80s and 90s. Politics kept the teams apart but boards worked together.

PCB's attempt to get the 2011 WC away from India, burnt all bridges. The stumps were burned by the court cases.

Right now the feeling is, do whatever but don't deal with the PCB.
 
Beggars cant have an ego.

Sethi should have a word with Shehbaz Shareef.

Shehbaz is giving his two cents to IMF, while asking for bailout.

Someday i will write an article about all the anecdotes i have heard about BCCI PCB working together behind the government's back in 90s.
 
Pakistan has a few options but they need to negotiate properly with the ICC.

Firstly its time to abandon the Asia cup. Let the BCCI foot any losses this time. In the long run the other boards minus India will be the losers. India isn't overly fussed about Asia cups and I doubt they will continue to play a multi team event if it effects their schedule and if it leas commercially viable. The tournament will die soon without Pakistan unless it is played in India every year maybe the Indian public can keep it afloat.

Next the assurances need to taken from the ICC that if we attend the world cup then we need cast iron guarantee that the champions trophy will be in Pakistan with or without India.

That's really all that can be done here.
 
Pakistan has a few options but they need to negotiate properly with the ICC.

Firstly its time to abandon the Asia cup. Let the BCCI foot any losses this time. In the long run the other boards minus India will be the losers. India isn't overly fussed about Asia cups and I doubt they will continue to play a multi team event if it effects their schedule and if it leas commercially viable. The tournament will die soon without Pakistan unless it is played in India every year maybe the Indian public can keep it afloat.

Next the assurances need to taken from the ICC that if we attend the world cup then we need cast iron guarantee that the champions trophy will be in Pakistan with or without India.

That's really all that can be done here.

What if opposite happens that Asia cup become successful even without Pakistan? Remember, PCB thought the same back in 2009 that pulling Pak players out of IPL will kill the league but rest is history. If somehow BCCI can pull a successful Asia cup without Pakistan, it will be massive setback for Pakistan cricket. I am sure ACC (under Jay Shah) will ban Pakistan from any future Asia cup participation and that will be that.

For someone who loves Indo-Pak cricket, I will be sad if we don't get to see this clash in Asia cup going forward. I think PCB need to swallow the pride, realize BCCI is mighty and powerful (even Ramiz accepted it) and move on. It is not the time for PCB to show bravado which will only harm Pakistan cricket. Nothing will happen to BCCI as they simply won't lose on anything.

Najam Sethi should agree to host the Asia cup in SL and take all the profit of host board. Put that money into betterment of Pak domestic cricket. Then send its team to world cup and look to win the title in India. Check the interview of Shaheen with Saj, he is rearing to go for the world cup. PCB is simply fighting a battle they cannot win and putting the future of Pak cricket at risk.
 
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What if opposite happens that Asia cup become successful even without Pakistan? Remember, PCB thought the same back in 2009 that pulling Pak players out of IPL will kill the league but rest is history. If somehow BCCI can pull a successful Asia cup without Pakistan, it will be massive setback for Pakistan cricket. I am sure ACC (under Jay Shah) will ban Pakistan from any future Asia cup participation and that will be that.

For someone who loves Indo-Pak cricket, I will be sad if we don't get to see this clash in Asia cup going forward. I think PCB need to swallow the pride, realize BCCI is mighty and powerful (even Ramiz accepted it) and move on. It is not the time for PCB to show bravado which will only harm Pakistan cricket. Nothing will happen to BCCI as they simply won't lose on anything.

Najam Sethi should agree to host the Asia cup in SL and take all the profit of host board. Put that money into betterment of Pak domestic cricket. Then send its team to world cup and look to win the title in India. Check the interview of Shaheen with Saj, he is rearing to go for the world cup. PCB is simply fighting a battle they cannot win and putting the future of Pak cricket at risk.


Asia cup can only be successful without Pakistan if the Indian domestic market is interested and it is played in India every single time.

It is heavily dependent on India - Pakistan TV rights hence why the tournament is fixed to have Pakistan India play each other twice.

Najam Sethi is of course hoping to invest money in the betterment of Pakistan cricket hence why he wants the tournament played in Pakistan. Pretending to care about the betterment of Pakistan while happily clapping at the tournament being strong armed away from Pakistan is just daft.
 
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People who are cheering on the PCB to ditch ACC and abandon the Asia Cup will be the same ones that will be moaning about evil BCCI's "discrimination" and "racism" in not allowing the Pakistani team to play the tournament some 5-6 years down the line. :91:

Indian market is just way way too big and cricket mad for a multi nation tournament involving India to incur losses. Simple as that. Asia Cup will be absolutely fine without Pakistan. ACC too...

I think and hope PCB has enough cumulative brain cells to understand that.
 
People who are cheering on the PCB to ditch ACC and abandon the Asia Cup will be the same ones that will be moaning about evil BCCI's "discrimination" and "racism" in not allowing the Pakistani team to play the tournament some 5-6 years down the line. :91:

Indian market is just way way too big and cricket mad for a multi nation tournament involving India to incur losses. Simple as that. Asia Cup will be absolutely fine without Pakistan. ACC too...

I think and hope PCB has enough cumulative brain cells to understand that.

Agree with you. I think people are forgetting Nidahas trophy and how successful it was without Pakistan and with India playing its B team. Nidahas was one of the most popular tournament in the last decade. Asia cup without Pakistan will be exactly the same i.e zero impact.
 
Agree with you. I think people are forgetting Nidahas trophy and how successful it was without Pakistan and with India playing its B team. Nidahas was one of the most popular tournament in the last decade. Asia cup without Pakistan will be exactly the same i.e zero impact.


I wouldn't go as far and say it would have zero impact because Indo-Pak games certainly pull in a large number of casual fans who wouldn't usually have tuned for say ... India vs Sri Lanka or Bangladesh. But it would certainly not be ending up with losses as some are claiming here. As you said , Nidahas is a perfect example of it. Maybe even better with the addition of Afghans and Nepal.
 
I don't understand how people think the Asia Cup wouldn't be a success without Pakistan. Not as successful but anyone India plays, money just rolls in. And did y'all forget, there are 2 other strong Asian teams with a huge cricket market in their own country (SL/BD - not sure about afg). Niandas trophy was a good blockbuster and a success too and it was only between IND/SL/BD. People be talking too much nonsense.

I personally think that this whole situation is stupid and the hybrid model Pak was offering should have been adopted but this is Pak and Pak's alone game to lose here. As Rajdeep stated, a successful Asia cup without PAK could further isolate PAK and BCCI will do wtv it can to help with that isolation.
 
Good news for some Indian fans: Pakistan will not participate both Asia Cup and World Cup. It came from reliable India media. So Zimbabwe will replace us.
 
I don't understand how people think the Asia Cup wouldn't be a success without Pakistan. Not as successful but anyone India plays, money just rolls in. And did y'all forget, there are 2 other strong Asian teams with a huge cricket market in their own country (SL/BD - not sure about afg). Niandas trophy was a good blockbuster and a success too and it was only between IND/SL/BD. People be talking too much nonsense.

I personally think that this whole situation is stupid and the hybrid model Pak was offering should have been adopted but this is Pak and Pak's alone game to lose here. As Rajdeep stated, a successful Asia cup without PAK could further isolate PAK and BCCI will do wtv it can to help with that isolation.

If you think generating money is the main priority than BCCI should arrange another IPL instead of World Cup, since IPL generates more money than World Cup matches.
 
If Australia, England, NZ, S Africa can tour Pakistan along with Zim, BD, Sl why India think there is a security issue for them?
 
People who are cheering on the PCB to ditch ACC and abandon the Asia Cup will be the same ones that will be moaning about evil BCCI's "discrimination" and "racism" in not allowing the Pakistani team to play the tournament some 5-6 years down the line. :91:

Indian market is just way way too big and cricket mad for a multi nation tournament involving India to incur losses. Simple as that. Asia Cup will be absolutely fine without Pakistan. ACC too...

I think and hope PCB has enough cumulative brain cells to understand that.

So according to you if your neighbour is rich and powerful than they have right humiliate you in front of others because of their status.
 
So according to you if your neighbour is rich and powerful than they have right humiliate you in front of others because of their status.

What? Where did I imply any of that? :))

Quote me after reading my post slowly again.
 
If you think generating money is the main priority than BCCI should arrange another IPL instead of World Cup, since IPL generates more money than World Cup matches.

contrary to popular belief, money is the reason sport exists on tv. WC exists because of making more money. If it was up to BCCI, they would do 2 IPL/year but they are not stupid and also know that people care more about international cricket rather than IPL.

I would like to see a case study of running IPL consistently for a couple of years for a longer period of time vs the interest of people towards IPL. My money is on people will care more about international cricket rather than IPL games and IPL viewership will start going down.

Also, do you know why Niandas trophy talk keeps on coming every now and then? It was successful and popular. I personally would love to see Niandas trophy every couple years. And it only consisted of IND (B)/SL/BD. It goes to tell you, other teams are able to generate success/money when playing with India. Not only Pakistan ... LOL.
 
contrary to popular belief, money is the reason sport exists on tv. WC exists because of making more money. If it was up to BCCI, they would do 2 IPL/year but they are not stupid and also know that people care more about international cricket rather than IPL.

I would like to see a case study of running IPL consistently for a couple of years for a longer period of time vs the interest of people towards IPL. My money is on people will care more about international cricket rather than IPL games and IPL viewership will start going down.

Also, do you know why Niandas trophy talk keeps on coming every now and then? It was successful and popular. I personally would love to see Niandas trophy every couple years. And it only consisted of IND (B)/SL/BD. It goes to tell you, other teams are able to generate success/money when playing with India. Not only Pakistan ... LOL.


You should lobby the BCCI and write to star sports if you want to see this trophy.

Lording it up infront of Pakistanis isn't going to bring it back.
 
Did I read it correctly that BCCI is saying they won't play matches in UAE as it will be too hot?
 
BcCI planning to organize Asia Cup in SL without Pakistan , old be a huge step let's see what Mr. Sethi can do and what are ICC upto to save this already dyeing sport played seriously by only 6-7 nations
 
Did I read it correctly that BCCI is saying they won't play matches in UAE as it will be too hot?

Yes. September will be too hot and as per bcci it will put players at the risk of injury.
 
BcCI planning to organize Asia Cup in SL without Pakistan , old be a huge step let's see what Mr. Sethi can do and what are ICC upto to save this already dyeing sport played seriously by only 6-7 nations

What can ICC do? Asia cup isn't a ICC tournament.
 
If BCCI are worried about their players feeling too hot in Dubai then have the hybrid model with Sri Lanka. Sethi has already said this is an option.

I have asked already I know....but can someome explain why BCCI is against hybrid model? It seems like the logical solution. Is it just purely out of spite or is there an actual reason?
 
PCB should pull out of the tournament.

Barr the players from playing in LPL too.
 
Pakistan will definitely pull out of the Asia Cup, which according to Indian fans here might not be such a big deal because their dads are paying their bills and they don’t have much to lose. The broadcast rights will be crippled to say the least, but be that as it may - two major tournaments without Pakistan will be a fun game.

We might not be part of the big three, but two ODI global tournaments without the 2nd ranked ODI team in the world will be funny :)))
 
If BCCI are worried about their players feeling too hot in Dubai then have the hybrid model with Sri Lanka. Sethi has already said this is an option.

I have asked already I know....but can someome explain why BCCI is against hybrid model? It seems like the logical solution. Is it just purely out of spite or is there an actual reason?

Already explained bro but let me summarize -

PCB is asking hybrid model not only for Asia Cup but all future events where India or Pakistan will be hosts. It will mean that BCCI have to host Pakistan in neutral venue for 2023 WC, PCB will host Indian team in neutral venue in 2025 CT etc. Basically at the behest of Asia Cup, PCB is trying to set up a precedence and want people to accept hybrid model as a norm going forward. What it would mean in reality is, PCB only need to host India twice i.e during Asia Cup 23 and CT 25 in neutral venues but India hosts multiple ICC events in next cycle where they have to adjust venues for Pakistan. BCCI will be in a loss in long run by accepting this model. It is not just about this Asia cup, it was never about this Asia cup. Had it been one of hybrid model only for this Asia cup no one would be even talking about it now.
 
yeah this is the solution. Yeah, we may miss India Pak matches but apart from rhetoric, they hardly live up to standards as far as quality of context is considered. People will just get on with their lives as they have been getting on with their lives without bilateral series.. no biggie

Last 4 Indo/PK matches were absolute bangers. All finished in last overs.

I would rate PK as slight favourites for any upcoming white ball match if it happens.
 
They have all the right to withdraw and not play in Pakistan. But the hybrid model should have been acceptable to BCCI as they don't have to play any matches in Pakistan. What others do shouldn't be their business.

THeir team their choice. I personally have no issues with that. India know they are the real boss and can do whatever thay want.
 
Indian fans have watched the boring india vs Sri Lanka 7 match odi series, they don't mind as long as their team plays. They won't miss India Vs Pakistan matches, rather would like matches against Australia or England.
 
Is this some kind of joke?

Isn't that the same reason BD/SL cricket board also gave? They agreed to play in Pakistan but are unwilling to play in UAE because of the heat - because WC is right around the corner. No one wants players out of commission during the WC.
 
Already explained bro but let me summarize -

PCB is asking hybrid model not only for Asia Cup but all future events where India or Pakistan will be hosts. It will mean that BCCI have to host Pakistan in neutral venue for 2023 WC, PCB will host Indian team in neutral venue in 2025 CT etc. Basically at the behest of Asia Cup, PCB is trying to set up a precedence and want people to accept hybrid model as a norm going forward. What it would mean in reality is, PCB only need to host India twice i.e during Asia Cup 23 and CT 25 in neutral venues but India hosts multiple ICC events in next cycle where they have to adjust venues for Pakistan. BCCI will be in a loss in long run by accepting this model. It is not just about this Asia cup, it was never about this Asia cup. Had it been one of hybrid model only for this Asia cup no one would be even talking about it now.

I'm not sure this is true. The reports were that Pakistan would travel to India for the world cup if India agreed to hybrid model
 
Yes.

Also tomorrow PCB will say we want bilaterals to resume or else we won't go to India for the 2026 T20 WC, the 2029 CT or 2031 WC.

BCCI won't handover this leverage to PCB. Actually the government won't allow this to happen.

Forget BCCI or BJP regime... they do what they do.. but common people in India Also supporting this ** is baffling.. Many Indian Journalists who run talk shows blame Pakistan board for being adamant and unreasonable with demands.. how is that so? Its BCCI that has created the problem to begin with by refusing to travel.. and PCB only said they wont either.. they even bent backwards with hybrid proportions but BCCI is acting like a Spoilt Bully.. if its easy to exclude Pakistan from Asia cup or world cup as some indian posters like you think , schedule would have been announced by now.. Asia cup will be dead in future if Pakistan pulls out.. how many times BCCi will compensate boards with offer of bi series? Asia cup is every 3-4 years
 
Najam Sethi talking to the media on the occasion of the National Assembly Standing Committee on Inter-Provincial Coordination (IPC) meeting,

“In case of India’s refusal to travel to Pakistan to compete in the Asia Cup, chances are there that the Pakistan government would not allow the Men in Green to cross the borders for their World Cup participation. In that case, cricket will be the ultimate sufferer,”

“There should be a middle way to solve problems that surely threaten the smooth hosting of ICC and ACC events. In case of India’s refusal to travel to Pakistan for the Asia Cup, the government will not allow us to travel to India to figure in the World Cup matches,”
 
Forget BCCI or BJP regime... they do what they do.. but common people in India Also supporting this ** is baffling.. Many Indian Journalists who run talk shows blame Pakistan board for being adamant and unreasonable with demands.. how is that so? Its BCCI that has created the problem to begin with by refusing to travel.. and PCB only said they wont either.. they even bent backwards with hybrid proportions but BCCI is acting like a Spoilt Bully.. if its easy to exclude Pakistan from Asia cup or world cup as some indian posters like you think , schedule would have been announced by now.. Asia cup will be dead in future if Pakistan pulls out.. how many times BCCi will compensate boards with offer of bi series? Asia cup is every 3-4 years
Asia Cup is a meaningless tournament, and nobody besides Sri Lanka or Bangladesh or maybe even the UAE will care about it being scrapped. Pakistan just wanted to use this opportunity as a base for the CT in 2025, we have boycotted the Asia Cup before aswell.

No decent broadcaster will bid for the Asia Cup going forward, that’s for certain. No matter how many home series BCCI arranges to cover it up, no broadcaster is going to touch this tournament now that Pakistan might not be a part of the ACC anymore and no India-Pakistan matches are on the horizon.
 
Forget BCCI or BJP regime... they do what they do.. but common people in India Also supporting this ** is baffling.. Many Indian Journalists who run talk shows blame Pakistan board for being adamant and unreasonable with demands.. how is that so? Its BCCI that has created the problem to begin with by refusing to travel.. and PCB only said they wont either.. they even bent backwards with hybrid proportions but BCCI is acting like a Spoilt Bully.. if its easy to exclude Pakistan from Asia cup or world cup as some indian posters like you think , schedule would have been announced by now.. Asia cup will be dead in future if Pakistan pulls out.. how many times BCCi will compensate boards with offer of bi series? Asia cup is every 3-4 years

I was a lurker here when it was said that IPL would be dead without Pakistan. The rest is history.

And yes BJP and BCCI do enjoy popular support in respect to their Pakistan policy.
 
Well different reports around. This one does not mention anything about CT

https://cricket.one/cricket-news/pa...cup-deadlock-reports/64770a384737919e242805c2


Sethi has been adamant on this right from the beginning. In numerous interviews, he made it clear that Pak will come to India for the WC only if -

1. India visits Pakistan for the Asia Cup

Or

2. BCCI gives them an assurance that they'll send the team for the Champions Trophy..


Simple as that. All these half baked "reports" from unreliable source mean nothing.
 
If I am not wrong BCCI hosted IPL in UAE in September 2021? :inti

IPL is T20 cricket and this Asia Cup is 50 over format.

T20 cricket starts at 7pm in the evening after sunset but ODIs need to start in afternoon 2PM.

Also, worth of IPL is million times more than Asia Cup. So kind of chalk and cheese comparison.
 
Asia Cup is a meaningless tournament, and nobody besides Sri Lanka or Bangladesh or maybe even the UAE will care about it being scrapped. Pakistan just wanted to use this opportunity as a base for the CT in 2025, we have boycotted the Asia Cup before aswell.

No. Asia Cup is not a meaningless tournament. In fact it has more meaning than 90% of international cricket that is played every year. Pakistani fans were calling for everyone's heads when they failed badly in the 2018 Asia Cup and the same with Indian fans for the 2022 edition. Vast majority of fans do care about this tournament and that is why PCB is desperate to host it even in a neutral venue.

No decent broadcaster will bid for the Asia Cup going forward, that’s for certain. No matter how many home series BCCI arranges to cover it up, no broadcaster is going to touch this tournament now that Pakistan might not be a part of the ACC anymore and no India-Pakistan matches are on the horizon.


Wrong again. Any multi national tournament involving India will attract handsome bids from all the major broadcasters (Star , Sony, Zee etc). It'd be foolish to think otherwise.
 
Sethi has been adamant on this right from the beginning. In numerous interviews, he made it clear that Pak will come to India for the WC only if -

1. India visits Pakistan for the Asia Cup

Or

2. BCCI gives them an assurance that they'll send the team for the Champions Trophy..


Simple as that. All these half baked "reports" from unreliable source mean nothing.

So India will agree to hybrid model if PCB drops demand number 2?
 
No. Asia Cup is not a meaningless tournament. In fact it has more meaning than 90% of international cricket that is played every year. Pakistani fans were calling for everyone's heads when they failed badly in the 2018 Asia Cup and the same with Indian fans for the 2022 edition. Vast majority of fans do care about this tournament and that is why PCB is desperate to host it even in a neutral venue.




Wrong again. Any multi national tournament involving India will attract handsome bids from all the major broadcasters (Star , Sony, Zee etc). It'd be foolish to think otherwise.
Then go ahead and announce it without the Pakistan cricket team, why is there still a reluctance to proceed further? Asia Cup is in September, and the ACC should announce the fixtures without Pakistan immediately.

Why are Indian officials still releasing information through ‘sources’?

It’s blatantly clear Pakistan is not interested in playing this meaningless tournament if the hybrid model is not accepted. If anything, preparations for the World Cup will be thrown into jeopardy if PCB decides to drag this out.
 
No. Asia Cup is not a meaningless tournament. In fact it has more meaning than 90% of international cricket that is played every year. Pakistani fans were calling for everyone's heads when they failed badly in the 2018 Asia Cup and the same with Indian fans for the 2022 edition. Vast majority of fans do care about this tournament and that is why PCB is desperate to host it even in a neutral venue.




Wrong again. Any multi national tournament involving India will attract handsome bids from all the major broadcasters (Star , Sony, Zee etc). It'd be foolish to think otherwise.
Also, my point about the broadcasters stands no matter how much you try to portray it will not make a difference.

An India-Pakistan game is infinitely more beneficial to a broadcaster than any other match. It’s a cold hard fact and the ICC will be losing sleep over missing out on this match later this year.

There is a reason two top officials from the ICC ended up in Pakistan earlier this week, when it has became abundantly clear that Pakistan will not be moving from its stance (for now anyway).
 
Asia Cup is a meaningless tournament, and nobody besides Sri Lanka or Bangladesh or maybe even the UAE will care about it being scrapped. Pakistan just wanted to use this opportunity as a base for the CT in 2025, we have boycotted the Asia Cup before aswell.

No decent broadcaster will bid for the Asia Cup going forward, that’s for certain. No matter how many home series BCCI arranges to cover it up, no broadcaster is going to touch this tournament now that Pakistan might not be a part of the ACC anymore and no India-Pakistan matches are on the horizon.

Also, my point about the broadcasters stands no matter how much you try to portray it will not make a difference.

An India-Pakistan game is infinitely more beneficial to a broadcaster than any other match. It’s a cold hard fact and the ICC will be losing sleep over missing out on this match later this year.

There is a reason two top officials from the ICC ended up in Pakistan earlier this week, when it has became abundantly clear that Pakistan will not be moving from its stance (for now anyway).

When you say no decent broadcaster, which broadcasters are you talking about?

I would say that any series or tournament involving Ind. will have multiple broadcasters fighting. Regardless of if they are playing Pak. or not.

Now if you are talking about $$$ bid for the tournament, then it would slightly less. But broadcasters will still line up. I would bet the same Disney, Sony, Reliance etc will be in the fray.
 
So India will agree to hybrid model if PCB drops demand number 2?

Yes. Drop both those conditions ,come to India and play the world without any fuss and there shouldn't be any problems.

The whole fiasco started when PCB desperately tried to move it's World Cup games out of India.
 
Then go ahead and announce it without the Pakistan cricket team, why is there still a reluctance to proceed further? Asia Cup is in September, and the ACC should announce the fixtures without Pakistan immediately.

Why are Indian officials still releasing information through ‘sources’?

It’s blatantly clear Pakistan is not interested in playing this meaningless tournament if the hybrid model is not accepted. If anything, preparations for the World Cup will be thrown into jeopardy if PCB decides to drag this out.


There's no reluctance here. They are just testing the waters for as long as they can. An announcement will be made in a week or so. All in good time. :)
 
Also, my point about the broadcasters stands no matter how much you try to portray it will not make a difference.

An India-Pakistan game is infinitely more beneficial to a broadcaster than any other match. It’s a cold hard fact and the ICC will be losing sleep over missing out on this match later this year.

There is a reason two top officials from the ICC ended up in Pakistan earlier this week, when it has became abundantly clear that Pakistan will not be moving from its stance (for now anyway).


Classic strawman argument.

You claimed that no broadcasters would bid for Asia Cup if Pakistan doesn't come which is just plain bull waste. Ofcourse the lack of Indo-Pak fixtures will have its side effects but to say that a tournament involving India won't even be brought by anyone is just plain delusional...
 
Mohammad Asif in an interview regarding Asia Cup being played in Pakistan:

“I don’t think it will happen. Because the political situation is not great. Any team will be a little apprehensive of coming. So I think the Asia Cup will be shifted to Sri Lanka or Dubai,”
 
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