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Joe Root's 22nd Test century guides England to a 27 run first innings lead over India at Lord's

sensible-indian-fan said:
Yes he is insane.

But what about the other bats?

Rory Burns, Bairstow were owning us.

Smith was like this in Sydney 2021 game.

Yet we bundled them out for 350 odd on that patta cos we got the rest.
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I do not disagree with the inclusion of Ashwin on this pitch. Before this test match, if you had read any of my post on this, I have mentioned that unless it is absolutely overcast condition and rain expected to prevent a full 5 days test match, we must play Ashwin and Jadeja both.

However, I also said that for this test, India should consider resting Mohammad Shami and bring Ishant Sharma because the rotation is important to ensure the fast bowlers get the required rest in this 5- match test series.

Now the decision of picking three best pace bowler is a tough one because anyone on a given day can have a good day and anyone can have a bad day. However, on this pitch, it was unfair to consider the exclusion of Ashwin and especially this version of Ashwin who is doing well overseas too.
 
Ab Fan said:
I do not disagree with the inclusion of Ashwin on this pitch. Before this test match, if you had read any of my post on this, I have mentioned that unless it is absolutely overcast condition and rain expected to prevent a full 5 days test match, we must play Ashwin and Jadeja both.

However, I also said that for this test, India should consider resting Mohammad Shami and bring Ishant Sharma because the rotation is important to ensure the fast bowlers get the required rest in this 5- match test series.

Now the decision of picking three best pace bowler is a tough one because anyone on a given day can have a good day and anyone can have a bad day. However, on this pitch, it was unfair to consider the exclusion of Ashwin and especially this version of Ashwin who is doing well overseas too.
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Ashwin should have been played unless its too much in favour of fast bowlers. Ashwin rarely leaks runs , keeps things right , and can score runs as well .
 
King_Kohli said:
Bro it's time to change your opinion :)

:ishant is back
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Very crucial wickets in the context of preventing England from running away with the game.

Too little too late in the context of helping India utilize their advantage to eek out a win.

We gave up a HUGE advantage and the game is in balance right now.

I don't have an issue with 4 pacer template in general.

I have an issue in current context.

Reason 1 - There are 4 number 11s which is never good. Though that will change with Shardul.

Reason 2 - 4 pacers will run riots in favourable conditions and might struggle when conditions ease out. Thats what happened in last game 3rd innings and this game.

Reason 3 - Jaddu is a proper bat but not the same spinner he once was. He is still a very valuable bowler but in certain conditions & situations. India needs Jaddu the bat a lot so he is a must in the XI no matter what imho. You need a proper spinner anyways.

Reason 4 - When you have average spinners, 4 pacers make sense. But when you have 2 quality spinners who strengthen both your batting and bowling, this is needless.

Reason 5 - Except for the great WI attack and the SA 2010 attack....every attack in the world had a full time spinner to get things under control. Even pakistan with Wasim and Waqar, owe a lot of test wins to Mustaq Ahmed overseas. Same happened to India in Aus. Take out Ash and Jaddu....and the test series win was impossible.

This isn't to say that had we gone with a different lineup, we would have won.

But it surely would have given us a lot more variety.

It's not like this is a Joberg 2018 pitch.
 
Justcrazy said:
Ashwin should have been played unless its too much in favour of fast bowlers. Ashwin rarely leaks runs , keeps things right , and can score runs as well .
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Point is you can only play 11 players. Who would be dropped for Ashwin? Shami, Siraj, Bumrah, Ishant?
Only option is Jadeja but he cant be dropped. Our middle order is crap and we need Jadeja down the order.
 
Root's gone into a shell since the dismissal of Moeen. Not sure how that helps anyone. Reprieved by a close umpire's call decision now.
 
Ab Fan said:
I do not disagree with the inclusion of Ashwin on this pitch. Before this test match, if you had read any of my post on this, I have mentioned that unless it is absolutely overcast condition and rain expected to prevent a full 5 days test match, we must play Ashwin and Jadeja both.

However, I also said that for this test, India should consider resting Mohammad Shami and bring Ishant Sharma because the rotation is important to ensure the fast bowlers get the required rest in this 5- match test series.

Now the decision of picking three best pace bowler is a tough one because anyone on a given day can have a good day and anyone can have a bad day. However, on this pitch, it was unfair to consider the exclusion of Ashwin and especially this version of Ashwin who is doing well overseas too.
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I get you but I have a slight disagreement with one of your points.

if you had read any of my post on this, I have mentioned that unless it is absolutely overcast condition and rain expected to prevent a full 5 days test match, we must play Ashwin and Jadeja both.
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It doesn't matter if it is overcast cos it will change eventually.

Moreover, Lords takes spin (albeit slow) unlike other pitches.

On top of that, as we saw in WTC finals, had we batted even a little bit better, Ashwin and Jaddu would have won us the game or mnade it super duper hyper close.

Ashwin was literally taken off the attack in the middle of the 4th innings and never brought back on.

By the way, let's wind back to Sydney 2021.

Ashwin actually failed to pick wickets.

Jaddu did.

We bundled them out.

Thats the balance a 3+2 combo will give you.

There will always be exceptions like Joberg 2018 or even Gabba 2021 (and I maintain that we got lucky with Ashwin and Vihari injury cos they probably may not have won us the Gabba game like Shardul & Sundar did).
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
I get you but I have a slight disagreement with one of your points.



It doesn't matter if it is overcast cos it will change eventually.

Moreover, Lords takes spin (albeit slow) unlike other pitches.

On top of that, as we saw in WTC finals, had we batted even a little bit better, Ashwin and Jaddu would have won us the game or mnade it super duper hyper close.

Ashwin was literally taken off the attack in the middle of the 4th innings and never brought back on.

By the way, let's wind back to Sydney 2021.

Ashwin actually failed to pick wickets.

Jaddu did.

We bundled them out.

Thats the balance a 3+2 combo will give you.

There will always be exceptions like Joberg 2018 or even Gabba 2021 (and I maintain that we got lucky with Ashwin and Vihari injury cos they probably may not have won us the Gabba game like Shardul & Sundar did).
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Ashwin did bowled well in WTC Final but if we get a WTC type conditions and wicket again, I would pick just one of the two spinners and it will probably be Jadeja. However, on this pitch, both spinners must have played and one of the pacers had to be dropped or rested.

I am not all that convinced on Shami's ability to run through sides as even on his best days, he takes like 4-5 wickets in both innings combined and feel while bowling multiple spells, he gets tired quite often too. So, he should have rested in this test as far as mine is concerned.
 
Poor from Root, he could have easily saved Jimmy there.
 
Now 2 day left so results is likely outcome here. 27 runs lead make England slight advantage but they have to bat last here so india need to score 270 for any chance of winning .
 
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Nikhil_cric said:
Right here. Si who would you drop? Bumrah or Shami?
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Most likely Bumrah.

I have made many posts about how he hasn't been his usual self.

Might not have worked out in Nottingham (hindsight) but then the lineup would have had a 3+2 combo for enough variety.

But then....if I had access to pacers in the nets, I would probably have course corrected.

You tell me mate.

We had access to ALL these bowlers.

No such worries about whom to drop.

Still England did well.

Why?
 
Mind boggling knock by Root. :bow:

What a guy.

Game in balance.

England have a slim lead but they have to bat last.
 
England could have easily buried India but we have comeback well.

Last 5 wickets for 50 runs.

During the game, Ishant was the most abused in social media & forums but in the end, he has more wickets at a better economy while others went wicketless or at high economy or both (like Bumrah).

It will take some analysis to process this performance and find out where each pacer stands.

Feel like others try harder for wickets but give away runs.

Ishant on the other hand, was completely impactless for large period of time but then picks up a bunch and prevents England from running away from the game.

Would love an in-depth breakdown of this performance.

I honestly don't know how to rate our pacers in this test :))
 
Ab Fan said:
Ashwin did bowled well in WTC Final but if we get a WTC type conditions and wicket again, I would pick just one of the two spinners and it will probably be Jadeja. However, on this pitch, both spinners must have played and one of the pacers had to be dropped or rested.

I am not all that convinced on Shami's ability to run through sides as even on his best days, he takes like 4-5 wickets in both innings combined and feel while bowling multiple spells, he gets tired quite often too. So, he should have rested in this test as far as mine is concerned.
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Fair enough.

But I have a different view.

It depends on how long the game goes.

If we collapse in WTC finals, obviously the pacer decision will look better.

If we don't collapse and score decent runs (NOT even a lot), the extra spinner will be the difference between winning the championship and losing it.

If you saw the WTC finals, our pacers were toothless at first before Shami struck.

Maybe the fourth pacer might have struck for us.

If he hadn't, we would be in deep trouble...with no one for 4th innings too.

My theory holds up regardless of how long the game stretches.

It doesn't guarantee a win but it prevents us from losing the plot.

Case in point....last test 3rd innings and this test.

Anyways, I believe the real question is to select 3 in-form pacers whose skillsets complement each other and who understand the requirements on when to go hard, when to bowl dry, etc.

That's a better approach than just packing the team with 4 or 5 pacers and hoping one of them will click.

I am not all that convinced on Shami's ability to run through sides as even on his best days, he takes like 4-5 wickets in both innings combined and feel while bowling multiple spells, he gets tired quite often too. So, he should have rested in this test as far as mine is concerned.
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True.

Maybe this is one of the reasons why 4 pacers has merits.

Its a call you gotta take.

Has its pros and cons.

I don't think it's worth it in the end unless pitches really demand that.
 
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Joe Root was left stranded on 180* but did enough to hand England a 27-run lead as England were bowled out for 391 at stumps on day three.

Resuming on 119/3 in bright and sunny conditions, the stage was perfectly set for skipper Joe Root and Jonny Bairstow to build their partnership and get closer to the Indian total. And they did exactly that. Root brought up his 51st Test half-century, continuing his glorious run of form in the year 2021.

Bairstow too looked assured at the crease, bringing up his half-century as well on the brink of lunch. The Indian bowlers toiled away, trying to get the all-important breakthrough, but in vain. The hosts ended in what was a brilliant session for them on 216/3, adding 97 runs to their overnight total.

After the interval, there was a change of strategy from the Indian bowlers. Mohammed Siraj constantly peppered Bairstow (57) with short deliveries and the plan paid dividends as Bairstow's pull came off the glove. He was out after a fine knock of 57 as Siraj celebrated his third scalp.

Root would soon bring up his 22nd Test century, basking in the applause of the Lord's crowd and was looking for a big one, with Jos Buttler joining him at the crease. Root also became only the second England player to score 9000 runs in Test cricket after Alastair Cook.

After a 54-run stand between the pair, India got the much-needed breakthrough though as Ishan Sharma bowled Buttler for 23. Root and Ali ensured that England did not lose any wickets heading into the final session, trailing India by only 50 runs.

Root continued to pile on runs after the break, bringing up his 150 for the 11th time in his career. Just when it looked like the Root-Ali partnership was taking the game away from India, Ishant Sharma struck twice in two balls to first send Ali (27) and then Sam Curran for a first-ball duck to bring some sort of parity to the game.

Siraj finally got an LBW decision in his favour, trapping Ollie Robinson (6) in front of the stumps to claim his fourth wicket of the innings. Eight overs later, confusion between Root and Mark Wood (5) resulted in a run-out that cost the latter his wicket.

James Anderson (0) survived 16 balls, including a fiery over from Bumrah, but was dismissed off the last ball of the day as Root was left 20 runs short of what would have been his second double hundred at Lord's. The English skipper received enough support from the tailenders to go past India's first innings total by 27 runs.
 
What a sterling Lord’s Test match this has been! A fantastic effort from both sides, with plenty of gripping individual battles and interesting subplots going on.

Joe Root is the world’s best batsman on current form.

Looking forward to the final two days of this wonderful Test. Anything could happen.
 
JONNY BAIRSTOW feels England can build on their 27-run advantage when India bat again on day four:

“We’ve put ourselves in a position where hopefully in the morning we can capitalise. I’m sure when Jimmy (Anderson) comes on to bowl, he’ll cause a few problems himself.

"It’s all set up now – we’ll come again with fire in the belly and the lads are looking forward to getting the ball in their hand.

"If we can utilise the new ball in the morning and have a good session, we’ll see where we get to. The game’s poised nicely and it’s going to be a fascinating day tomorrow.”
 
What a magnificent day of cricket. Joe Root's 180* was absolutely stunning, batted nearly 9 hours against a high-class attack and finished not out. Doesn't get much better than that.
 
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