Karnataka: BJP Leader Demands Ban on Halal Meat, Says it Is Part of 'Economic Jihad'

[KingKhanWC]

Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) national general secretary C.T. Ravi on Tuesday, March 29 said that Halal meat is part of an “economic jihad” by the Muslim community. He further said that it has been imposed on them so that they don’t have to do business with others.

“When Muslims refuse to buy meat from Hindus, why should you insist Hindus to buy from them?” the BJP legislator from Chikmagalur said in Bengaluru.

He further said that such trade practices are a two-way street. “If Muslims agree to eat non-Halal meat, then Hindus will also use Halal meat.”

https://thewire.in/communalism/karn...-halal-meat-says-it-is-part-of-economic-jihad
[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]

Anyone please help. What in the world is he saying? Im clueless

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

https://thewire.in/communalism/karn...-halal-meat-says-it-is-part-of-economic-jihad

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]

Anyone please help. What in the world is he saying? Im clueless

Seems like a very ill-informed statement. Some Sikhs DO refuse to buy Halal meat, which is fair enough according to their principles. Hindus can also refuse to buy it, no one is forcing them to buy anything. Muslims might not buy meat from Hindus because it is not Halal, but they can still buy almost anything else, whether food or other products. It is called respecting other's beliefs.

Is this guy really a member of parliament?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Seems like a very ill-informed statement. Some Sikhs DO refuse to buy Halal meat, which is fair enough according to their principles. Hindus can also refuse to buy it, no one is forcing them to buy anything. Muslims might not buy meat from Hindus because it is not Halal, but they can still buy almost anything else, whether food or other products. It is called respecting other's beliefs.

Is this guy really a member of parliament?

Says "national general secretary C.T. Ravi ", sounds like a pretty high rank in the party.

Thanks, so dont buy Halal meat because Muslims willl become wealthy and rule over India again.

As you point out [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] is ok to buy anything from Muslims?

 

[Major]

When I was living in New Delhi, there were meat shops that sold halal and there were also meat shops that did not sell halal. I think sikhs and some hindus eat non halal meat.

Restaurants in New Delhi, almost all of them sold halal food. It didnt matter if it was a sikh or a hindu running the shop.

Also, there were mithai shops that sold mithai that had cow ****** sprayed on them, of course as Muslim we avoided such places.

 

[Major]

When I was living in New Delhi, there were meat shops that sold halal and there were also meat shops that did not sell halal. I think sikhs and some hindus eat non halal meat.

Restaurants in New Delhi, almost all of them sold halal food. It didnt matter if it was a sikh or a hindu running the shop.

Also, there were mithai shops that sold mithai that had cow ****** sprayed on them, of course as Muslim we avoided such places.

to be fair, we never for sure knew if those proclaimed shops sold cow urine spray mithai, but there were rumours....

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) national general secretary C.T. Ravi on Tuesday, March 29 said that Halal meat is part of an “economic jihad” by the Muslim community. He further said that it has been imposed on them so that they don’t have to do business with others.

“When Muslims refuse to buy meat from Hindus, why should you insist Hindus to buy from them?” the BJP legislator from Chikmagalur said in Bengaluru.

He further said that such trade practices are a two-way street. “If Muslims agree to eat non-Halal meat, then Hindus will also use Halal meat.”

That's a fair point that Muslims will only buy Halal meat, so Hindus should not be forced to buy from Muslims. However this is not part of any "economic jihad". Its simply a religious obligation. I dont think any Muslim will be upset if Hindus/Sikhs buy meat that is cut in accordance with their religious obligations.

 

[silentkiller187]

New Delhi: BJP MP Parvesh Sahib Singh Verma extended support to the controversial ban on meat during Navratras announced by two Delhi mayors, and said the ban should be extended across the country. "I request Muslims that don't come into any controversies," he told reporters.
"I welcome the decision which was taken by South MCD. I want all three municipal corporations to implement this. Also, I want Delhi-NCR and the whole country to implement this," he told reporters today.

Exhorting everyone to follow the decision, he said, "Our culture says that we have to respect every religion... Modi government schemes are for every religion".

The sale of meat was barred during 9-day Navratra festival by Mayors of South and East Delhi yesterday. While no official order was issued, South Delhi Mayor Mukesh Suryan wrote to South Delhi Municipal Commissioner Gyanesh Bharti saying there was no need to open meat shops as 'most people' don't consume non-veg food in this period.

"Religious beliefs and sentiments of devotees are affected" when they come across meat shops on their way to offer daily prayers and have to bear the foul smell, he added in the letter.

The East Delhi Municipal Corporation Mayor Shyam Sundar Agarwal issued similar advise.

Later the South Delhi Mayor told NDTV that they will "strictly close" all meat shops. "When meat is not sold, people will not eat it," Mr Suryan added, defending comparing the move to prohibit drinking water in public during Ramadan in some Islamic nations.

In Uttar Pradesh's Ghaziabad -- an area under the National Capital region, there was a similar move. But the order banning the sale of meat in Ghaziabad from 2-10 April was reversed on Saturday by Mayor Asha Sharma.

The controversy comes amid row over halal meat shops in Karnataka, where activists of right wing Bajrang Dal attacked a Muslim vendor. A police case has been filed over the issue, which is seen as backlash over the hijab row.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/bjp...-implement-2864777#pfrom=home-ndtv_topstories

 

[KingKhanWC]

India still claims to be secular lol

If Hindus don’t like meat , don’t eat it .

Meat is an essential part of diet for majorly of humans on this planet .

Veggie extremists can never stop others eating meat .

 

[RexRex]

New Delhi: BJP MP Parvesh Sahib Singh Verma extended support to the controversial ban on meat during Navratras announced by two Delhi mayors, and said the ban should be extended across the country.
"I welcome the decision which was taken by South MCD. I want all three municipal corporations to implement this. Also, I want Delhi-NCR and the whole country to implement this," he told reporters today.
The sale of meat was barred during 9-day Navratra festival by Mayors of South and East Delhi yesterday. While no official order was issued, South Delhi Mayor Mukesh Suryan wrote to South Delhi Municipal Commissioner Gyanesh Bharti saying there was no need to open meat shops as 'most people' don't consume non-veg food in this period.
Later the South Delhi Mayor told NDTV that they will "strictly close" all meat shops. "When meat is not sold, people will not eat it," Mr Suryan added, defending comparing the move to prohibit drinking water in public during Ramadan in some Islamic nations.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/bjp...-implement-2864777#pfrom=home-ndtv_topstories

Do BJP loyalists like [MENTION=90888]Itachi[/MENTION] [MENTION=151383]Local.Dada[/MENTION] [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] [MENTION=152021]Rajdeep[/MENTION] support this move of banning all meat shops in Delhi areas during Navratri festival? This is yet another case of stuffing your religious beliefs down other people's throats. Thoughts ?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Do BJP loyalists like [MENTION=90888]Itachi[/MENTION] [MENTION=151383]Local.Dada[/MENTION] [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] [MENTION=152021]Rajdeep[/MENTION] support this move of banning all meat shops in Delhi areas during Navratri festival? This is yet another case of stuffing your religious beliefs down other people's throats. Thoughts ?

You won’t get a reply.

Is meat actually prohibited for Hindus ? Where is the text in their scriptures? Also when you question Hinduism often the response is Hinduism is what one wants it to be . Hindus also eat meat ?

Finally if the smell is too much , surely you’d move ?!

 

[Pakpak]

Waiting for BJP lap dancers to tell us how this is secular. I am sure there will be a justification found.

 

[JaDed]

Do BJP loyalists like [MENTION=90888]Itachi[/MENTION] [MENTION=151383]Local.Dada[/MENTION] [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] [MENTION=152021]Rajdeep[/MENTION] support this move of banning all meat shops in Delhi areas during Navratri festival? This is yet another case of stuffing your religious beliefs down other people's throats. Thoughts ?

Founding fathers and their inability to create UCC and BJP will keep using this till 2027(when I hope they will finally create one who knows).

BJP seems scared of creating UCC clearly they won’t have a case to do stuff like this.

 

[Champ_Pal]

The biggest problem that India is facing is Halal Meat. I am glad that BJP has finally called time on it.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Do BJP loyalists like [MENTION=90888]Itachi[/MENTION] [MENTION=151383]Local.Dada[/MENTION] [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] [MENTION=152021]Rajdeep[/MENTION] support this move of banning all meat shops in Delhi areas during Navratri festival? This is yet another case of stuffing your religious beliefs down other people's throats. Thoughts ?

No I don't and never will. This is why BJP has issues in places like Bengal Odisha etc. If not for HBS they would lose the NE also.

This is is utter stupidity by BJP. They should be hauled to the courts for this. So that after the court judgement, no one repeats it again.

Similarly, a university run on taxpayers money should not close all canteens from Dawn to dusk during Ramadan.

Now coming to the halal question, muslims have right to eat the halal food.

But if others don't want halal food, then halal food cant be rammed down their throats. Right now every public institution carries almost exclusively halal meat. This has to change.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Founding fathers and their inability to create UCC and BJP will keep using this till 2027(when I hope they will finally create one who knows).

BJP seems scared of creating UCC clearly they won’t have a case to do stuff like this.

BJP will bring UCC, sooner rather than later. It will come during the Modi regime only.

 

[JaDed]

BJP will bring UCC, sooner rather than later. It will come during the Modi regime only.

And it will be UCC OR HCC implemented on all hopefully you don’t say it tenders to Majority.

UCC has to be as impartial and either favor all religions equally or not favor anyone.

 

[RajBan]

to be fair, we never for sure knew if those proclaimed shops sold cow urine spray mithai, but there were rumours....

That will be considered blasphemy in Calcutta. Not sure about Delhi.

 

[Jadz]

You won’t get a reply.

Is meat actually prohibited for Hindus ? Where is the text in their scriptures? Also when you question Hinduism often the response is Hinduism is what one wants it to be . Hindus also eat meat ?

Finally if the smell is too much , surely you’d move ?!

Brother, our Hindu neighbour told us that meat - including beef - was not prohibited at all in Hinduism and when I expressed shock and explained that many Hindus were vegetarians, even vegans, because of religious restrictions, she said either they were ignorant or were merely exercising personal preferences. Maybe someone with knowledge of Hinduism could enlighten us on the subject.

I do know some Muslims - even Christians - who do not eat meat but only because they 'prefer vegetables.'

 

[RajBan]

Brother, our Hindu neighbour told us that meat - including beef - was not prohibited at all in Hinduism and when I expressed shock and explained that many Hindus were vegetarians, even vegans, because of religious restrictions, she said either they were ignorant or were merely exercising personal preferences. Maybe someone with knowledge of Hinduism could enlighten us on the subject.

I do know some Muslims - even Christians - who do not eat meat but only because they 'prefer vegetables.'

Won't be surprised if Bongs and Mallus actually eat more non veg than Pakistanis. They have healthy diet of fish other than meat and it's a pretty regular affair as well.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Brother, our Hindu neighbour told us that meat - including beef - was not prohibited at all in Hinduism and when I expressed shock and explained that many Hindus were vegetarians, even vegans, because of religious restrictions, she said either they were ignorant or were merely exercising personal preferences. Maybe someone with knowledge of Hinduism could enlighten us on the subject.

I do know some Muslims - even Christians - who do not eat meat but only because they 'prefer vegetables.'

Beef is prohibited among hindus as Cow is a holy animal. Rest hindus eat meat. Bengalis Odiyas probably have meat/fish every day.

 

[Jadz]

Beef is prohibited among hindus as Cow is a holy animal. Rest hindus eat meat. Bengalis Odiyas probably have meat/fish every day.

Thank you Brother, I appreciate the knowledge you shared with us.

 

[chrismatt83]

Won't be surprised if Bongs and Mallus actually eat more non veg than Pakistanis. They have healthy diet of fish other than meat and it's a pretty regular affair as well.

I’m mallu and I love eating meat. Been eating meat and non veg since day 1. Being Christian there’s no restriction that Ive had to follow regarding food and the only time I remember my parents following anything rigidly was during lent when we try to not eat meat for 50 days. It’s extremely hard for me though. I remember my friends who were Hindu and Muslim while I grew up in Kerala ate meat extensively. It was a cultural thing. Beef fry and roti was like our national food and popular dish.

 

[RexRex]

You won’t get a reply.

Is meat actually prohibited for Hindus ? Where is the text in their scriptures? Also when you question Hinduism often the response is Hinduism is what one wants it to be . Hindus also eat meat ?

Finally if the smell is too much , surely you’d move ?!

I am not well versed in the specifics, you should ask a hindu scholar. All I know is that a lot of hindus eat meat. Veggie extremists, if they exist, mostly come from the central & north western part of India

 

[RexRex]

BJP will bring UCC, sooner rather than later. It will come during the Modi regime only.

And it will be UCC OR HCC implemented on all hopefully you don’t say it tenders to Majority.

UCC has to be as impartial and either favor all religions equally or not favor anyone.

UCC ? I don't think you understand the politics at play here.

The needle has moved too far to the right now for a UCC. UCC is a secular concept i.e makes all religions equal in the eyes of the law . I suspect the BJP doesn't want that anymore. They want a primary religion that is elevated above other minority religions. I used to laugh at people when they said BJP was going to make India a hindu rashtra when they first got elected in 2014. I told them it was all about development and economy. Recent years have clearly suggested that that is no longer the case.

I've already pointed out two clear red flags -

1) bhagvad gita made complusory for all school students in Gujarat last month
2) meat ban imposed in Delhi specifically for a hindu festival this week

The news channels haven't even bothered to debate it, that's how normalised these kind of majoritarian diktats have become among the indian public today. So far, on both the issues, the public don't seem to care which is not good news and a sign of more hindu-centric laws to come.

 

[KingKhanWC]

UCC ? I don't think you understand the politics at play here.

The needle has moved too far to the right now for a UCC. UCC is a secular concept i.e makes all religions equal in the eyes of the law . I suspect the BJP doesn't want that anymore. They want a primary religion that is elevated above other minority religions. I used to laugh at people when they said BJP was going to make India a hindu rashtra when they first got elected in 2014. I told them it was all about development and economy. Recent years have clearly suggested that that is no longer the case.

I've already pointed out two clear red flags -

1) bhagvad gita made complusory for all school students in Gujarat last month
2) meat ban imposed in Delhi specifically for a hindu festival this week

The news channels haven't even bothered to debate it, that's how normalised these kind of majoritarian diktats have become among the indian public today. So far, on both the issues, the public don't seem to care which is not good news and a sign of more hindu-centric laws to come.

I’m assuming the Quran & Bible are also compulsory to teach all faiths & bring them to together ?


Delhi has tons of Muslims right ? Are you saying they were on salad & lentils for a week because another faith had a festival ?

It’s interesting you are noticing this religious nationalism griping India . Was always told by Indian posters , Pakistanis are imagining it all

 

[KingKhanWC]

I am not well versed in the specifics, you should ask a hindu scholar. All I know is that a lot of hindus eat meat. Veggie extremists, if they exist, mostly come from the central & north western part of India



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2014 I suspect the lighter shade has increased since . Are these areas also BJP majority areas ?

 

[Itachi]

Do BJP loyalists like [MENTION=90888]Itachi[/MENTION] [MENTION=151383]Local.Dada[/MENTION] [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] [MENTION=152021]Rajdeep[/MENTION] support this move of banning all meat shops in Delhi areas during Navratri festival? This is yet another case of stuffing your religious beliefs down other people's throats. Thoughts ?

I don't support this.

You can follow an ideology yet you can disagree with the leaders in various aspects.

Is it hard to understand for some people or what because I am seeing this kind of post a lot lately.

 

[MenInG]

Two groups of students clashed on Sunday afternoon in the Jawaharlal Nehru University (JNU) campus, allegedly over meat being served in the hostel canteen on the occasion of Ram Navami.

The incident took place at Kaveri hostel at 3:30 in the afternoon.

The Jawaharlal Nehru University Students' Union (JNUSU) has alleged that the Akhil Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad (ABVP) members assaulted the mess secretary and stopped the staff from serving meat dishes in the hostel.

Countering it, the ABVP, the student wing of the BJP's ideological mentor Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, claimed that Members of left organizations tried to stop a Pooja from being organised in the hostel.

Both sides have accused each other of pelting stones and injuring their members.

The police have been called to the campus.

"There is no violence as of now. A protest was held which is over. We are all positioned here with our team. On the request of the university, we have come here. We are trying to maintain peace," Deputy Commissioner of Police (Southwest) Manoj C was quoted saying by news agency PTI.

The JNUSU has further alleged that the ABVP used "muscle power and goondaism" to create a ruckus.

"They were forcing and attacking the mess committee to change the dinner menu and exclude the usual non-vegetarian items in it for all students," the student body said in a statement.

"JNU and its hostels are meant to be inclusive spaces for all and not one particular section," it added.

The ABVP has rejected the JNUSU's allegations.

"Some common students had organised a pooja and havan programme on the auspicious occasion of Ram Navami at 3:30 PM at Kaveri hostel.

"This pooja was joined by a large number of common students of JNU. The Leftists came to object, obstruct and prevent the pooja from happening. They have created a false ruckus on the issue of 'Right to Food' (Non-Vegetarian Food)," they said.

Reports say a number of student protesters are injured and have been shifted to the nearby hospitals.

A few students are still protesting in the vicinity of the campus.

"In the afternoon today, a message went viral on social media that ABVP members are not allowing non-veg food inside the campus. The mess usually prepares non-veg food items on weekends. However, ABVP members did not let this food to be prepared," JNU student Sarika told news agency ANI.

NDTV

 

[Clueless]

https://thewire.in/communalism/karn...-halal-meat-says-it-is-part-of-economic-jihad

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]

Anyone please help. What in the world is he saying? Im clueless

I am Clueless, sir!! and you are not me.

Anyways Religious Fanatics around the world dont have any consistent logic anywhere in the world.

 

[Clueless]

2014 I suspect the lighter shade has increased since . Are these areas also BJP majority areas ?

Lol, are you under the impression that Non-veg eaters dont vote for BJP or all vegetarians vote for BJP.
1. BJP has just 2 MLAS out of 117 in Punjab with just 6% total vote share. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Punjab_Legislative_Assembly_election
2. Rajasthan has a Congress govt.
while BJP is ruling several heavy non veg eating states.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Two groups of students clashed on Sunday afternoon in the Jawaharlal Nehru University (JNU) campus, allegedly over meat being served in the hostel canteen on the occasion of Ram Navami.

The incident took place at Kaveri hostel at 3:30 in the afternoon.

The Jawaharlal Nehru University Students' Union (JNUSU) has alleged that the Akhil Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad (ABVP) members assaulted the mess secretary and stopped the staff from serving meat dishes in the hostel.

Countering it, the ABVP, the student wing of the BJP's ideological mentor Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, claimed that Members of left organizations tried to stop a Pooja from being organised in the hostel.

Both sides have accused each other of pelting stones and injuring their members.

The police have been called to the campus.

"There is no violence as of now. A protest was held which is over. We are all positioned here with our team. On the request of the university, we have come here. We are trying to maintain peace," Deputy Commissioner of Police (Southwest) Manoj C was quoted saying by news agency PTI.

The JNUSU has further alleged that the ABVP used "muscle power and goondaism" to create a ruckus.

"They were forcing and attacking the mess committee to change the dinner menu and exclude the usual non-vegetarian items in it for all students," the student body said in a statement.

"JNU and its hostels are meant to be inclusive spaces for all and not one particular section," it added.

The ABVP has rejected the JNUSU's allegations.

"Some common students had organised a pooja and havan programme on the auspicious occasion of Ram Navami at 3:30 PM at Kaveri hostel.

"This pooja was joined by a large number of common students of JNU. The Leftists came to object, obstruct and prevent the pooja from happening. They have created a false ruckus on the issue of 'Right to Food' (Non-Vegetarian Food)," they said.

Reports say a number of student protesters are injured and have been shifted to the nearby hospitals.

A few students are still protesting in the vicinity of the campus.

"In the afternoon today, a message went viral on social media that ABVP members are not allowing non-veg food inside the campus. The mess usually prepares non-veg food items on weekends. However, ABVP members did not let this food to be prepared," JNU student Sarika told news agency ANI.

NDTV

JNU leftists should realise that their anti hindu antics are going to be opposed and their goondaism is going to be paid back in the same coin. Their funding is drying up. Their support in academia and media have been exposed. They don't run the system.

 

[KingKhanWC]

JNU leftists should realise that their anti hindu antics are going to be opposed and their goondaism is going to be paid back in the same coin. Their funding is drying up. Their support in academia and media have been exposed. They don't run the system.

In secular India , is it illegal to serve meat in a hostel canteen ?

 

[hurricanes]

In secular India , is it illegal to serve meat in a hostel canteen ?

Seeing all the libertarian views you promulgated in this thread, I am sure you are for serving pork and alcohol in Pakistani hostels or is that a burden only for Indians to carry?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Seeing all the libertarian views you promulgated in this thread, I am sure you are for serving pork and alcohol in Pakistani hostels or is that a burden only for Indians to carry?

Sure , they can serve pig , frogs , snails , ducks or beef , my personal favourite. In school pork was served daily , didn’t stop me from going hungry . Strange statement. Muslims don’t eat pork , everyone else is allowed ? Do you sympathise with the rss extremists ?

 

[hurricanes]

Sure , they can serve pig , frogs , snails , ducks or beef , my personal favourite. In school pork was served daily , didn’t stop me from going hungry . Strange statement. Muslims don’t eat pork , everyone else is allowed ? Do you sympathise with the rss extremists ?

I am asking about supporting pork and alcohol in Pakistan(not uk) during Ramadan.

Yes, I sympathize with rss as much as you sympathize with the Jihadis.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I am asking about supporting pork and alcohol in Pakistan(not uk) during Ramadan.

Yes, I sympathize with rss as much as you sympathize with the Jihadis.

You seem defensive over these extremists. Do you condem this lunacy or you feel they have a point ? Again people can eat cows , pigs , rats , monkeys in the same canteen , I don’t go hungry .
It’s Ramadan in over 50 Muslim countries. In hotels or hostals , if a non Muslim is eating pork nobody will care but extremists like these in India

 

[hurricanes]

You seem defensive over these extremists. Do you condem this lunacy or you feel they have a point ? Again people can eat cows , pigs , rats , monkeys in the same canteen , I don’t go hungry .
It’s Ramadan in over 50 Muslim countries. In hotels or hostals , if a non Muslim is eating pork nobody will care but extremists like these in India

I only find it amusing the most intolerant people advocating tolerance for others. When any questions are raised about apostasy rules in Pakistan, then the response we get is their country their rules, but are quick to ask questions of others.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I only find it amusing the most intolerant people advocating tolerance for others. When any questions are raised about apostasy rules in Pakistan, then the response we get is their country their rules, but are quick to ask questions of others.

You should be worried not amused . India is in deep waters , the anti beef extremists should be denounced, condemned , not supported or dismissed & instead divert to attack or others.

Stick to topic . Do you support them ?

 

[Lego20]

I am not well versed in the specifics, you should ask a hindu scholar. All I know is that a lot of hindus eat meat. Veggie extremists, if they exist, mostly come from the central & north western part of India



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Surprised to see low meat nos for Punjab.

 

[Kroll]

Beef is prohibited among hindus as Cow is a holy animal. Rest hindus eat meat. Bengalis Odiyas probably have meat/fish every day.

Beef is a big delicacy of Kerala Hindus and some other southern states, no?

 

[Justcrazy]

You won’t get a reply.

Is meat actually prohibited for Hindus ? Where is the text in their scriptures? Also when you question Hinduism often the response is Hinduism is what one wants it to be . Hindus also eat meat ?

Finally if the smell is too much , surely you’d move ?!

Hindu scriptures do not prohibit eating of any meat including beef , its under jain influence they started this nonsense.

Right no the issue is Hindus are totally under control of RSS , an organisation that has been banned three times. They want to implement there hateful doctrine in India , they hate everything that Muslims do , because they were ruled by them for years , on top of that once they deal with Muslims they will take on low caste hindus.

If BJP wins in 2024 , they will abolish constitution . Mark my words

 

[Realromeo]

Hindu scriptures do not prohibit eating of any meat including beef , its under jain influence they started this nonsense.

Right no the issue is Hindus are totally under control of RSS , an organisation that has been banned three times. They want to implement there hateful doctrine in India , they hate everything that Muslims do , because they were ruled by them for years , on top of that once they deal with Muslims they will take on low caste hindus.

If BJP wins in 2024 , they will abolish constitution . Mark my words

Indians dont see themselves as "hindus" like Pakistanis see themselves. Most ideintify themselves as per their ethnicity, Gujarati, Tamil, Bengali and etc. Those that identify themselves as "hindu" in general are minority nutcases. RSS is a joke. Maybe in up north they are seen as something worth talking. Here in Tamil Nadu for example, they are just comedy pieces. Stop generalizing all Indians like how you assume us to be.

 

[cricketjoshila]

In secular India , is it illegal to serve meat in a hostel canteen ?

Dont speak if you don't know what happened.

A group of hindus were doing havan near the canteen. Muslims were having iftar inside and this was going on peacefully with no problems.

The leftist student unions tried to stop the havan. Some say they threw meat in the havan.

This resulted in the ABVP asking the canteen to not serve meat till havan was completed.

That led to clashes.

This is not a hindu muslim issue. This is leftist union trying to protect one of their last remaining bastions.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Hindu scriptures do not prohibit eating of any meat including beef , its under jain influence they started this nonsense.

Right no the issue is Hindus are totally under control of RSS , an organisation that has been banned three times. They want to implement there hateful doctrine in India , they hate everything that Muslims do , because they were ruled by them for years , on top of that once they deal with Muslims they will take on low caste hindus.

If BJP wins in 2024 , they will abolish constitution . Mark my words

You are incorrect in stating that beef isnt prohibited. Cow slaughtering is considered one of the biggest sins in Hinduism.

Indira Gandhi was the most powerful PM, India ever had, she tried to be a dictator, people threw her out. BJP will most likely win 2024 and like all parties face the election in 2029.

Hindus are too diverse to be controlled by one organization. But hindus do realise that other political parties were going overboard with their muslim appeasement, at the cost of taxpayers money, at the cost of law and order and at the cost of hindus. They got an option to stop that and they chose the BJP.

Dalits are more and more voting for the BJP.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Beef is a big delicacy of Kerala Hindus and some other southern states, no?

Only in Kerala i have seen a section of hindus eating beef. Nowhere else.

 

[hurricanes]

You should be worried not amused . India is in deep waters , the anti beef extremists should be denounced, condemned , not supported or dismissed & instead divert to attack or others.

Stick to topic . Do you support them ?

Yes, I support everything that RSS does and want them to do more.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Yes, I support everything that RSS does and want them to do more.

Please do continue in detail. What would you like them to do more? Save all cows from Muslim hands must be one?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Dont speak if you don't know what happened.

A group of hindus were doing havan near the canteen. Muslims were having iftar inside and this was going on peacefully with no problems.

The leftist student unions tried to stop the havan. Some say they threw meat in the havan.

This resulted in the ABVP asking the canteen to not serve meat till havan was completed.

That led to clashes.

This is not a hindu muslim issue. This is leftist union trying to protect one of their last remaining bastions.

Why should Muslims stop eating halal meat because of some lefties throwing it around? lol

If they continue to eat halal meat in the canteen (bought from outside) would they be breaking the law?

 

[hurricanes]

Apostasy laws for one. Death by beheading in public squares, no permission to build any other religious places of worship, make triple talaq option available for non Muslims as well, force Muslim girls to marry Hindu boys, make sure minority populations get into single digits and as close to zero etc etc…it is endless.You can say I am inspired.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Apostasy laws for one. Death by beheading in public squares, no permission to build any other religious places of worship, make triple talaq option available for non Muslims as well, force Muslim girls to marry Hindu boys, make sure minority populations get into single digits and as close to zero etc etc…it is endless.You can say I am inspired.

You’re on the wrong thread . But also on the right thread to be inspired .. jai modi ji

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Indians dont see themselves as "hindus" like Pakistanis see themselves. Most ideintify themselves as per their ethnicity, Gujarati, Tamil, Bengali and etc. Those that identify themselves as "hindu" in general are minority nutcases. RSS is a joke. Maybe in up north they are seen as something worth talking. Here in Tamil Nadu for example, they are just comedy pieces. Stop generalizing all Indians like how you assume us to be.

Did BJP not win a landslide? Do they not campaign on Hindutva? How are they a minority?

Also its not mutually exclusive to see yourself as a Hindu and also by your ethnic background. In Pakistan people also identify with their ethnicity, Punjabi, Seraiki, Sindhi, etc, as well as Muslim.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

You are incorrect in stating that beef isnt prohibited. Cow slaughtering is considered one of the biggest sins in Hinduism.

Indira Gandhi was the most powerful PM, India ever had, she tried to be a dictator, people threw her out. BJP will most likely win 2024 and like all parties face the election in 2029.

Hindus are too diverse to be controlled by one organization. But hindus do realise that other political parties were going overboard with their muslim appeasement, at the cost of taxpayers money, at the cost of law and order and at the cost of hindus. They got an option to stop that and they chose the BJP.

Dalits are more and more voting for the BJP.

Don't Hindus in Kerala eat beef? Not talking about non religious Hindus, but actually practicing Hindus who eat Beef?

If Hinduism is to diverse to be controlled by one organization then how can cow slaughter be considered one of the biggest sins in Hinduism. Maybe per some Hindus its allowed?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why should Muslims stop eating halal meat because of some lefties throwing it around? lol

If they continue to eat halal meat in the canteen (bought from outside) would they be breaking the law?

What has muslims got to do here? Nothing.

Its between two students unions.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Don't Hindus in Kerala eat beef? Not talking about non religious Hindus, but actually practicing Hindus who eat Beef?

If Hinduism is to diverse to be controlled by one organization then how can cow slaughter be considered one of the biggest sins in Hinduism. Maybe per some Hindus its allowed?

Maa gaamanaagaamaditim vadhishta
Rigveda 8.101.15
Do not kill the cow. Cow is innocent and aditi – that ought not to be cut into pieces


Antakaaya goghaatam
Yajurveda 30.18
Destroy those who kill cows


These are from the vedas. If some consume beef( Mostly its buffalo meat) they are doing a sin.

 

[Ashmal]

What has muslims got to do here? Nothing.

Its between two students unions.

What about the various hate crimes which took place across India on Ram Navami

 

[Realromeo]

Did BJP not win a landslide? Do they not campaign on Hindutva? How are they a minority?

Also its not mutually exclusive to see yourself as a Hindu and also by your ethnic background. In Pakistan people also identify with their ethnicity, Punjabi, Seraiki, Sindhi, etc, as well as Muslim.

They got 37% of the vote share in the last election. In good number of states the state election is more important than general. So BJP allies with either of the two-three parties in that state. Congress is also known for their massive corruption and joker of their leaders. Not in every state it is Hindutva, in lot of state they push the pendulum just a bit on the right and take the patriotic side than anti-muslim. Then you have largue youth population that don't vote. Regardles, we Indians dont see ourselves as "Hindus". We identify us with our ethnicity first, followed by country and then religion.

 

[KingKhanWC]

What has muslims got to do here? Nothing.

Its between two students unions.

They have nothing to do with it, sure.

My question was simple.

IF now they bring in(into canteen) halal meat from outside would they be breaking the law? Yes or No?

 

[chrismatt83]

Beefs a big delicacy by all Keralites, whether Muslims Christian’s and any other religion and not just Hindus. Beef fry and roti is a Kerala favorite. It’s like an emotion for us. We also eat chicken fish pork mutton and even vegetarian stuff. Not sure what’s the big deal with beef ? But I’m pretty sure when I was there it was mostly buffalo.

We should have the freedom of choice to eat whatever we like, but with that being said, one shouldn’t force anything down anyones throat if it’s against their beliefs. Not sure why that’s so difficult to understand.

 

[cricketjoshila]

They have nothing to do with it, sure.

My question was simple.

IF now they bring in(into canteen) halal meat from outside would they be breaking the law? Yes or No?

What has halal meat got to do here?

 

[cricketjoshila]

What about the various hate crimes which took place across India on Ram Navami

Yea, in some areas muslims pelted stones and attacked the ram navami festival procession. But mostly it was peaceful.

 

[Ashmal]

Yea, in some areas muslims pelted stones and attacked the ram navami festival procession. But mostly it was peaceful.

So it was just the Muslims at fault.......Hindutva goons who climbed the top of mosques and waved their saffron flags apart from deliberately playing provocative loud music in front of mosques in Ramadan, deserve to be lauded, isn't it?

 

[KingKhanWC]

What has halal meat got to do here?

Is Halal meat still being served in the canteen?

 

[ex-q-zit]

After Hijab, Proposed Halal Meat Ban May Be Karnataka's Next Controversy

Karnataka appears to be headed for another huge controversy on the heels of the hijab ban, with a leader of the ruling BJP planning a bill to ban halal meat a year before the state elections. The matter is expected to create a storm in the state assembly, which started its winter session yesterday. The Congress is set to oppose the bill.

The state government says it is yet to take a call on whether it would back the bill. "Let's see when it comes; private member bill has its own position. We will see what it is," Chief Minister Basavaraj Bommai is quoted as saying by news agency Press Trust of India.

The BJP's Ravi Kumar, a member of the assembly's upper house, who is privately moving the bill, has claimed that halal certification is done by Muslim bodies" which "charge huge fees for certification" and are making huge profits from this.

Maintaining that the "identity and status" of these Muslim bodies is not clear, the bill proposes that "halal certification be banned, till a recognised is authority appointed".

Reports said Mr Ravikumar -- who is also the general secretary of the state BJP -- had earlier written to Governor Thawar Chand Gehlot on the issue.

Now he has written to the Chairman of the Legislative Council, seeking permission to introduce the Bill to amend the Food Safety and Standards Act, 2006, to ban any private person or organisation from issuing certification of foods, reported PTI.

The letter claims the proposed amendment will not put any financial burden on the government and will, rather, bring in an additional revenue of ₹ 5,000 crore for the state exchequer, PTI reported.

Controversy over halal meat -- where animals are slaughtered according to Islamic religious specifications -- started earlier this year, with a BJP leader calling it "economic jihad". Several right-wing organisations had even called for a boycott of eateries which serve halal meat during the Navratri and Ugadi festivals.

Ahead of Diwali, some right-wing organisations had held protests outside multinational food chain outlets like KFC and McDonald's, demanding they should not serve halal certified meat to non-Muslims.

The Congress has claimed the ban on halal is a BJP ploy to detract attention from their misgovernance and the real issues in the state, which will have its assembly elections next year.

Karnataka went through turbulence earlier this year with the state government banning the use of hijab by girl students in educational institutions. The High Court had upheld the ban after which the matter went to the Supreme Court.

In October, the top court delivered a split verdict, with one judge maintaining that the state is authorised to enforce uniform in schools and the other describing hijab as a matter of choice.

NDTV

 

[PakLFC]

Nothing new. Just another day in the life of tolerance in India.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

I don't support this.

You can follow an ideology yet you can disagree with the leaders in various aspects.

Is it hard to understand for some people or what because I am seeing this kind of post a lot lately.

It’s a fair question because you are always missing in threads like this till specifically called out but on threads where you are 100% in agreement you are among the most active posters.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Seeing all the libertarian views you promulgated in this thread, I am sure you are for serving pork and alcohol in Pakistani hostels or is that a burden only for Indians to carry?

Couple of things. In Pakistan there is no demand for pork especially so it would be a stupid economic decision to even carry it for a private enterprise. In india there is a clear demand.

Secondly Pakistan doesn’t claim to be a secular democracy anyway so yes it won’t have the sam burden. If india doesn’t want such questions to arise then easy step would be to declare itself a Hindu state officially.

Finally, way to deflect lol. Pretty unsuccessful attempt tho

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Only in Kerala i have seen a section of hindus eating beef. Nowhere else.

Also in good old USA

 

[offstump]

Indian players themselves were eating beef when their receipt got leaked during the Australia Covid tour.

 

[JaDed]

Also in good old USA

Many Pakistanis eat pork here as well I’m sure you have seen.

 

[JaDed]

If meat is allowed what difference does it make if its halal or not BJP karnataka and Delhi are dumbest of the lot

 

[MP2011]

Cunning dishonest sanghis.

 

[MP2011]

Hope Bommai is uprooted next year. He is giving a tough competition to his master feku in being incompetent.

 

[sweep_shot]

What is an "economic Jihad"? LOL.

They keep on inventing new terms.