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Kevin Pietersen undermines Joe Root's record, says batting is easier today than before

Kevin Pietersen has sparked a new debate about modern-day Test cricket by stating that batting today is easier compared to two decades ago. The former England cricketer's comments came after Joe Root became the second-highest run-scorer in Tests during the ongoing match against India in Manchester.

Joe Root surpassed legends Jacques Kallis and Ricky Ponting among the all-time leading run-scorers in Test cricket. The England batter has scored 13,409 runs in 157 Tests at an average of 51.18. He trails only Sachin Tendulkar, who remains the highest run-getter in Test history with 15,921 runs from 200 Tests.

On his X, he penned out:

"Don’t shout at me but batting these days is way easier than 20/25 years ago! Probably twice as hard back then!

Waqar, Shoaib, Akram, Mushtaq, Kumble, Srinath, Harbhajan, Donald, Pollock, Klusener, Gough, McGrath, Lee, Warne, Gillespie, Bond, Vettori, Cairns, Vaas, Murali, Curtley, Courtney and the list could go on and on…I’ve named 22 above.

Please name me 10 modern day bowlers that can compare to the names above?"

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Bumrah is a Ryan Harris level bowler.

But Joe Root is a better batsman than anyone India ever produced.

Also, Noman Ali, Sajid Khan are also better bowler than Ravi Ashwin and Ravindra Jadeja.
 
He's right to an extent, but scoring 13K+ across 156 tests is still no small feat. Let's just look at the guy he last overtook: Ricky Ponting, who is one of my all-time favorite batsmen. How many years did Ponting have at the top? And how many years towards the end was he a passenger in the side playing solely on reputation? Ditto for someone like Kohli.

There's a reason why Tendulkar and Bradman are so highly rated. And it's consistency + longevity over a sustained period of time. Root has similar attributes which is why I think he will break Tendulkar's record.
 
KP is obviously jealous of root but that aside he has no business naming bowlers like Harbajan and Srinath in his list. They are very ordinary.

Harbajan would be getting smacked around silly on some of the flatter pitches in the current era.
Bottle cap bowler's like Wasim and Waqar would have destroyed by USA if they played in this era where they can't use bottle caps , home umpire etc :kp
 
KP is obviously jealous of root but that aside he has no business naming bowlers like Harbajan and Srinath in his list. They are very ordinary.

Harbajan would be getting smacked around silly on some of the flatter pitches in the current era.
The most surprising name in that list is Chris Cairns. He was a very good all-rounder but I'd never think of him when talking about the great bowlers of the 90s.

Darren Gough also feels like a forced inclusion, just to get an English bowler in there.
 
The most surprising name in that list is Chris Cairns. He was a very good all-rounder but I'd never think of him when talking about the great bowlers of the 90s.

Darren Gough also feels like a forced inclusion, just to get an English bowler in there.
Cairns you are right about.

Gough was a great bowler. English players of those days didn't take cricket too seriously so lacked longevity but I think Gough was excellent.
 
Bottle cap bowler's like Wasim and Waqar would have destroyed by USA if they played in this era where they can't use bottle caps , home umpire etc :kp
It's funny Indians keep parroting these rubbish lines. But if you want to go down this line you know that if bottle cap or not Bumrah would have been a circus performer in the 90s because his deformity wouldn't be accepted in cricket in that era.

Anyway, both W's played mostly in neutral umpire era too.

Trolling should have some limits else you just become a parody :kp
 
Cairns you are right about.

Gough was a great bowler. English players of those days didn't take cricket too seriously so lacked longevity but I think Gough was excellent.
Gough and Caddick were both good bowlers. But I wouldn't even put them in the Top 10 of greatest English fast-bowlers.
 
It's funny Indians keep parroting these rubbish lines. But if you want to go down this line you know that if bottle cap or not Bumrah would have been a circus performer in the 90s because his deformity wouldn't be accepted in cricket in that era.

Anyway, both W's played mostly in neutral umpire era too.

Trolling should have some limits else you just become a parody :kp
Seem kike truth is hurting you badly but what can i do . Its a fact :kp
 
KP is spitting facts but Pakistanis will not like it as they are pinning their hope on Root of beating Sachin's record. So it is understandable.

However, anyone thinks batting in modern era is same as when Sachin batted or the modern bowlers are same as ATG stuff he had faced knows nothing about cricket.
 
His argument doesn’t make sense cos all these bowlers he’s named wouldn’t be as effective today as they were in the past.
 
KP is spitting facts but Pakistanis will not like it as they are pinning their hope on Root of beating Sachin's record. So it is understandable.

However, anyone thinks batting in modern era is same as when Sachin batted or the modern bowlers are same as ATG stuff he had faced knows nothing about cricket.
Not as much as Indian will be fretting when Root starts getting close.
 
Not as much as Indian will be fretting when Root starts getting close.
That is true because Sachin is an icon for millions of Indians. So if Root breaks one among his many records of most test runs we will feel little sad. Just like when Kohli surpassed his most ODI centuries record, we all knew that meant nothing. Sachin's 49 ODI centuries in that era with 1 new ball and bigger boundaries is worth much more.

However, what we dont understand is why Pakistanis are so obsessed with Root's record? Kaun lagta hai woh aapke?

:kp
 
But sir Boom Boom Bumrah is greater than Malcolm Marshal :kp
It is a massive dilemma for Pak fans.

If they say batting in modern day is easy, that will mean downplay Root's runs.

If they say batting in modern day is tough, that will mean acceptance of Bumrah's greatness

#Checkmate

:yuvi
 
It’s true because the standard of test cricket has gone down. It’s no longer the priority. I see the more talented batsmen focusing on t20s. And some less talented players becoming test specialists.

Still though Root is a better test batsman than Pietersen. KP was immense early career but didn’t really keep that standard up after he lost captaincy.
 
It is a massive dilemma for Pak fans.

If they say batting in modern day is easy, that will mean downplay Root's runs.

If they say batting in modern day is tough, that will mean acceptance of Bumrah's greatness

#Checkmate

:yuvi
What if Root actually beats SRT? 🤔

How will Indian fans explain it to the world then

And on Bumrah see this Pic below 😂
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The quality of bowling across the board might not be the same, but he has named some pretty average bowlers in his Tweet as well and there a lot of bowlers today who are better than most of the names that he mentioned.

Root’s technique, temperament and poise are timeless. He would have been a wonderful Test batsman in any era and is truly one of the greatest the game has ever seen and by far the greatest to wear the England cap.
 
It is a massive dilemma for Pak fans.

If they say batting in modern day is easy, that will mean downplay Root's runs.

If they say batting in modern day is tough, that will mean acceptance of Bumrah's greatness

#Checkmate

:yuvi
No, the real dilemma is for Indian fans who claim that Bumrah is the GOAT but also have to claim that the quality of bowling is inferior today.

The situation gets more complicated when they realize that Root has spanked Indian bowlers more than any other set of bowlers.
 
What if Root actually beats SRT? 🤔

How will Indian fans explain it to the world then

And on Bumrah see this Pic below 😂
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Oh so you found one poor series to latch onto Bumrah?

He is not 100% fit...thats why his pace is down. He was bowling early to mid 140s in Australia tour but here in Eng operating at late 120s.

Had this not been a SENA tour, he will not even be playing. Infact, he should not have been playing this tour but Gambhir's insistence got him here.

As a cricket and fast bowling lover, you should be supporting a world class bowler like Bumrah. Then again, being a Pakistani you have to hate just because of his nationality.
 
Oh so you found one poor series to latch onto Bumrah?

He is not 100% fit...thats why his pace is down. He was bowling early to mid 140s in Australia tour but here in Eng operating at late 120s.

Had this not been a SENA tour, he will not even be playing. Infact, he should not have been playing this tour but Gambhir's insistence got him here.

As a cricket and fast bowling lover, you should be supporting a world class bowler like Bumrah. Then again, being a Pakistani you have to hate just because of his nationality.
I respect Bumrah as a bowler and will even acknowledge that he is the best fast-bowler in the world right now, but c'mon bro, this is such a flimsy excuse. When was the last time he played a test match before this series? Last I checked, he didn't even play the Champions Trophy and bowling 4 overs per match in the IPL hardly counts as 'a heavy workload.' Try comparing Burmah's workload to 35 year-old Starc and you will see that there isn't even a comparison when it comes to fitness. If you don't have the fitness to play test cricket then step aside and retire. Because being unfit after a 6 month break from test cricket is hardly an excuse for someone who is supposed to be the best fast-bowler in the world.
 
I respect Bumrah as a bowler and will even acknowledge that he is the best fast-bowler in the world right now, but c'mon bro, this is such a flimsy excuse. When was the last time he played a test match before this series? Last I checked, he didn't even play the Champions Trophy and bowling 4 overs per match in the IPL hardly counts as 'a heavy workload.' Try comparing Burmah's workload to 35 year-old Starc and you will see that there isn't even a comparison when it comes to fitness. If you don't have the fitness to play test cricket then step aside and retire. Because being unfit after a 6 month break from test cricket is hardly an excuse for someone who is supposed to be the best fast-bowler in the world.
Yes, everyone’s body is different. Starc’s fitness is on a different level compared to Bumrah...no denying that. In fact, most Australian bowlers generally show better fitness than Asian cricketers, and that can be attributed to genetics and diet.

If you watch the interview Bumrah gave to DK for Sky Cricket before this series, he clearly said he wants to maximize his income in the limited cricket he has left. He’s 31 now, and his focus is mainly on the IPL and white-ball formats to make the most of his earning potential. BCCI even offered him the Test captaincy, but he declined.

As fans, it’s disheartening to hear this, but we can’t really blame him for putting his own interests first. Only fans debate about “all-time greats” and how history will remember a player. Cricketers themselves don’t usually think that way.

Whether Bumrah is injured or not is debatable, but one thing is clear: he’s not exerting himself at 100%, likely to avoid another injury. That probably explains his noticeable drop in pace. With no major Test series lined up for India after this, I wouldn’t be surprised if he quietly moves on from the format altogether.
 
Yes, everyone’s body is different. Starc’s fitness is on a different level compared to Bumrah...no denying that. In fact, most Australian bowlers generally show better fitness than Asian cricketers, and that can be attributed to genetics and diet.

If you watch the interview Bumrah gave to DK for Sky Cricket before this series, he clearly said he wants to maximize his income in the limited cricket he has left. He’s 31 now, and his focus is mainly on the IPL and white-ball formats to make the most of his earning potential. BCCI even offered him the Test captaincy, but he declined.

As fans, it’s disheartening to hear this, but we can’t really blame him for putting his own interests first. Only fans debate about “all-time greats” and how history will remember a player. Cricketers themselves don’t usually think that way.

Whether Bumrah is injured or not is debatable, but one thing is clear: he’s not exerting himself at 100%, likely to avoid another injury. That probably explains his noticeable drop in pace. With no major Test series lined up for India after this, I wouldn’t be surprised if he quietly moves on from the format altogether.
Look mate, don't consider it a trolling but you are only fooling yourself...nobody will buy this explanation. Why won't he exert his 100 percent? Just to let England make a mockery of his past great record. Sometimes its better to be neutral than a hard core fan
 
Look mate, don't consider it a trolling but you are only fooling yourself...nobody will buy this explanation. Why won't he exert his 100 percent? Just to let England make a mockery of his past great record. Sometimes its better to be neutral than a hard core fan
I will give you an example. Why did he go off just bowling 1 over after tea yesterday?

Surely that explains he is not 100%
 
That is true because Sachin is an icon for millions of Indians. So if Root breaks one among his many records of most test runs we will feel little sad. Just like when Kohli surpassed his most ODI centuries record, we all knew that meant nothing. Sachin's 49 ODI centuries in that era with 1 new ball and bigger boundaries is worth much more.

However, what we dont understand is why Pakistanis are so obsessed with Root's record? Kaun lagta hai woh aapke?

:kp
Mera ta kuch bhi nahi lagda – sach bolu toh bas popcorn ready hai. Teenda record toodte hi Indian-Twitter ka meltdown dekhne ka maza alag hi hoga. Shayad emotional support groups bhi ban jayenge, scenes! :yk
 
Yes, everyone’s body is different. Starc’s fitness is on a different level compared to Bumrah...no denying that. In fact, most Australian bowlers generally show better fitness than Asian cricketers, and that can be attributed to genetics and diet.

If you watch the interview Bumrah gave to DK for Sky Cricket before this series, he clearly said he wants to maximize his income in the limited cricket he has left. He’s 31 now, and his focus is mainly on the IPL and white-ball formats to make the most of his earning potential. BCCI even offered him the Test captaincy, but he declined.

As fans, it’s disheartening to hear this, but we can’t really blame him for putting his own interests first. Only fans debate about “all-time greats” and how history will remember a player. Cricketers themselves don’t usually think that way.

Whether Bumrah is injured or not is debatable, but one thing is clear: he’s not exerting himself at 100%, likely to avoid another injury. That probably explains his noticeable drop in pace. With no major Test series lined up for India after this, I wouldn’t be surprised if he quietly moves on from the format altogether.
Why can't you blame him as a fan? Bumrah is not a Pakistani, Sri Lankan or Bangladeshi cricketer. He already has enough money where if he retired today, he and his children would live comfortable and luxurious lives. I'm keeping in mind the sponsorships and financial opportunities he will continue to get when he retires because of how famous he is in India. And the IPL money he will continue to make for many years. Even after his retirement.

I don't understand why fans can't just call out players for being greedy. Because that's what this is. If you want to be counted among the greatest of all-time then you have to make sacrifices in pursuit of greatness. Starc is unquestionably one of the greatest ODI bowlers of all-time and yet he still chose to skip the Champions Trophy because test cricket matters more to him.

It's not just about fitness, but also priorities and what matters most to you. In the past, Starc has missed IPL seasons too because he wanted his body to be fit for Australia.
 
Typically crass statement from Pieterson.
Root is a beautiful player and certainly the best English batter I have seen.

The only blemish in his career is his lack of a century in Australia.
As Ashes cricket dominates everything in English cricket,this cannot be ignored — for Root to be considered amongst the true greats of English batting (Hobbs, Hammond and Hutton) he has to score a century in Australia — in fact he has to be the dominant batter for England in the forthcoming series.
I hope he does this.
 
Mera ta kuch bhi nahi lagda – sach bolu toh bas popcorn ready hai. Teenda record toodte hi Indian-Twitter ka meltdown dekhne ka maza alag hi hoga. Shayad emotional support groups bhi ban jayenge, scenes! :yk

Translation - I am a Pakistani and we couldnt produce a batsman 1/3rd of SRT. So lets make a random batter from England our Abbu because we are jealous of Sachin. Dont make it so obvious man...world is laughing at the desperation of you guys and Bengalis. Just look at social media.

Btw, did you reacted the same way when Virat Kohli broke Sachin's ODI record 2 years ago?
 
I disagree with KP, I think Root is a timeless player.

Would it have been harder? Sure.

But he would have excelled in any generation with his airtight technique. A graceful player like him wouldn't have been overawed by any bowler and would have figured it out.
 
To diminish Joe Root's achievements by saying batting is "easier" is to overlook the extraordinary skill, dedication, and adaptability he has shown.

He's not just accumulating runs; he's doing it with a sublime technique, an insatiable appetite for big scores, and a consistency that few in any era can match. He has faced a wide array of world-class bowlers in his career and continues to dominate.

Cricket evolves, and so do the challenges. Instead of pitting eras against each other, let's appreciate the immense talent and grit required to succeed at the highest level, whether 20 years ago or today. Joe Root's records are a testament to his unique brilliance, not merely a reflection of a "simpler" game.
 
Or may be following you Sir, just criticizing own country for some likes from foreigners or pretending to be English being South African similar to being Indian here
Or maybe he is just like you? Bitter, jealous, and throwing cheap shots at others to feel better about himself. Must be hard watching others shine while you rot in your own insecurity. :inti
 
By the way, can someone actually answer KP by mentioning 10 names who are top quality today? :kp :inti
 
I don't think that is true. Every era has its own difficulties. But some greats can be great in every era just because of their talent and skills.

KEvin is just jealous I think that root has became the greatest English player ever
 
KP seems to be in India's pocket. Not surprised he is trying to undermine Root.

Root is one of the top 5 batters of all time.
 
Why is KP accused of being jealous ? All the boomer cricketers have said the same, including the likes of PP darling Michael Holding, at some point or the other.

"Hamare zamane mein...."

Even some older posters like Junaids would bang on about it non stop. I'm sure KP has heard it himself when he was playing.

No model is perfect but this is probably the best way to judge how batsmen have fared based on the bowling they have faced


Root is 6th on that list. And that's pretty damn good
 
KP seems to be in India's pocket. Not surprised he is trying to undermine Root.

Root is one of the top 5 batters of all time.

Very salty and jealous comment from KP.

Root is the best English batter of all time and 4-5 times better batter than KP. KP was a sitting duck against left arm spin. Root can play all bowlers.
 
Indians need to make up their minds now.

1) Is Bumrah weaker then the bowlers of the past considering what KP is stating

2) Is KP wrong and Root is > Tenda
 
KP? This guy is the worst of all traitors in the history of Cricket, and quite possibly across all sports.

Not only did he grass up on his team mates, he was dishing out tactical information to the opposition on how to get his team mates out!

No better definition of a khadar - best ignored.

Though can understand why the cult have a fascination with KP
 
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Haha, KP triggered a few fans of Root.

Imagine that the cricketing legacy of your country has become so horrible that you dont have anyone left to follow
 
Haha, KP triggered a few fans of Root.

Imagine that the cricketing legacy of your country has become so horrible that you dont have anyone left to follow
It's hilarious when you have to rely on players from other nations to derive pleasure.

P.S. I have my highest regards for Joe Root.
 
Haha, KP triggered a few fans of Root.

Imagine that the cricketing legacy of your country has become so horrible that you dont have anyone left to follow
They aren’t really fans of Root—they’re just Sachin haters. Root is simply the most conveniently placed candidate right now to fulfill their obsession with someone toppling the great man's Test run record. A few years ago, that poster boy was Alastair Cook.

For the record, I’m a huge admirer of Root’s batting. I truly believe he would have scored runs in any era. But let’s not kid ourselves—batting in the modern era is nowhere near what Sachin Tendulkar had to face. If you think otherwise, you’re either naive or just trying too hard to push an agenda.

As for KP’s tweet—it was absolutely spot on. He deliberately mentioned Wasim and Waqar first, probably hoping to get some mercy from a certain section of fans. Unfortunately for him, that strategy didn’t quite work out. Poor guy got roasted anyway.
:ROFLMAO:
 
By the way, can someone actually answer KP by mentioning 10 names who are top quality today? :kp :inti

Here is 10 that Root has faced that are better than many on this list. I am doing this from memory so may have missed a few. The list tails off a bit towards the end.but KP list also has some names that were good players but hardly great.

Hazelwood
Starc
Cummins
Rabadah
Bumrah
Steyn
Ashwin
Boult
Jadeja
Alzarri Joseph
Tim Southee
 
Bowling was a lot better but pitches were also a lot flatter
Not really a clear cut thing that batting was definitely easier, it's a 50/50 kind of deal
Also Root has a solid enough technique to succeed in any era, he would have made 10,000+ runs in the 90s/00s as well
 
There is no need to undermine Root's achievements. He has been exceptional, if he breaks Tendulkar's record then he absolutely deserves it. Top player
 
KP is right about one thing, batting is indeed easier compared to what it was in the 90s and early


This era is Tullay Baz era, majority are hacks hence it is so hard to keep Test cricket alive.
 
Bowling was a lot better but pitches were also a lot flatter
Not really a clear cut thing that batting was definitely easier, it's a 50/50 kind of deal
Also Root has a solid enough technique to succeed in any era, he would have made 10,000+ runs in the 90s/00s as well

KP is right to a certaiM extent , there were some exceptional bowlers and green decks but also a lot of rubbish on flat decks .

There is a lot of factors in test cricket. But this is prob the best study . Tendulkar only makes the list once out of a hundred .

Patrick Ferriday and Dave Wilson, authors of Masterly Batting: 100 Great Test Centuries.
 
KP seems to be in India's pocket. Not surprised he is trying to undermine Root.

Root is one of the top 5 batters of all time.

This is hyperbole.
Root is a the best English Test player I’ve seen but, of those I have seen, the following (in chronological order) are all better Test players


Sobers
Richards
Tendulkar
Lara
Smith
 
This era nonsense is just nonsense. Some of the bowlers that KP named wouldnt even make it into today playing 11
 
In comparison to Root, KP was late bloomer. Root was destined for greatness well before he reached his mid-20s.

I loved watching KP bat but Root is well ahead of him.

I wonder if KP saying this because Root was in the opposition camp when he had his fallout with the England team.
 
This is hyperbole.
Root is a the best English Test player I’ve seen but, of those I have seen, the following (in chronological order) are all better Test players


Sobers
Richards
Tendulkar
Lara
Smith

I think Root > Tendulkar.

The reason why I say it is because Root played many match-winning knocks in Test.

Tendulkar's Test runs were mostly soft runs.
 
In comparison to Root, KP was late bloomer. Root was destined for greatness well before he reached his mid-20s.

I loved watching KP bat but Root is well ahead of him.

I wonder if KP saying this because Root was in the opposition camp when he had his fallout with the England team.
Well it's interesting that he randomly named Darren Gough as @RedwoodOriginal also said. He could have named some of the England bowlers, those that won Ashes. Broad Anderson Swann and even Flintoff! He's very obviously a bit bitter.
 
Here is 10 that Root has faced that are better than many on this list. I am doing this from memory so may have missed a few. The list tails off a bit towards the end.but KP list also has some names that were good players but hardly great.

Hazelwood
Starc
Cummins
Rabadah
Bumrah
Steyn
Ashwin
Boult
Jadeja
Alzarri Joseph
Tim Southee
Alzarri Joseph? :yk
 
Indian and Australian pitches were alot easier to bat on compared to today.
Even kp's over hyped Mumbai ton was on a road vs ojha and co. Nothing compared to facing Ashwin,jadeja,scar Kuldeep on raging turners

I think KP is saying this based on the current eng-ind series where the pitches have been pretty flat barring lords.

If Root scores in Aus on those green tops, his greatness cannot be questioned
 
Why is KP accused of being jealous ? All the boomer cricketers have said the same, including the likes of PP darling Michael Holding, at some point or the other.

"Hamare zamane mein...."

Even some older posters like Junaids would bang on about it non stop. I'm sure KP has heard it himself when he was playing.

No model is perfect but this is probably the best way to judge how batsmen have fared based on the bowling they have faced


Root is 6th on that list. And that's pretty damn good
Lmao sanga at first shows that model is complete trash.

Sanga the most overrated keeper bat who always choked away from home vs big teams
 
jaspeit bumrah, mo shami, siraj, Hazlewood, Starc, Cummins, ishant Sharma prime, Anderson, broad, mark wood, archer, Rabada, Jansen, nortje, burger, Jamieson, boult, Matt Henry, will o rourke, Neil Wagner, Shaheen afridi, ashwin, jaddu, nathan lyon

Yea Nha modern era was far tougher
 
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jaspeit bumrah, mo shami, siraj, Hazlewood, Starc, Cummins, ishant Sharma prime, Anderson, broad, mark wood, archer, Rabada, Jansen, nortje, burger, Jamieson, boult, Matt Henry, will o rourke, Neil Wagner, Shaheen afridi, ashwin, jaddu, nathan lyon

Yea Nha modern era was far tougher
Alzarri Jospeh, Shamar Jospeh, roach and Jayden seales
 
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Here is 10 that Root has faced that are better than many on this list. I am doing this from memory so may have missed a few. The list tails off a bit towards the end.but KP list also has some names that were good players but hardly great.

Hazelwood
Starc
Cummins
Rabadah
Bumrah
Steyn
Ashwin
Boult
Jadeja
Alzarri Joseph
Tim Southee
I will like to check the pitches and impact too.in 2016 eng tour of ind , he was getting 75 odd in every innings but nothing impactful as the pitches were quite good.every one else was scoring 200s for fun.In a sense, no bowler had bothered much about him as he was just reducing the deficit. Even in 21 ind tour of England he was mostly accumulating with out much impact.In 22 eng tour of India last test match second innings , he was almost stealing the boundaries as no one cared .I think he scored 80 odd .
 
Would you rather face Alzarri Joseph or Srinath?
Alzarri Joseph anyday, how is this even a comparison.

Srinath has taken 230+ wkts at 30 and eco 2.8, Joseph averages 33 with eco of 3.6.

This is when Javagal bowled majorly in Indian conditions while Joseph plays in pace friendly WestIndies condition.

Icc rating peak of 588 vs 756, they are basically incomparable.
 
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