Low ticket sales for India’s tour of Australia

[cricketjoshila]

More catastrophic figures now in.....

Day 2 only attracted a crowd of 25,693: the previous lowest Day 2 crowd at the new Adelaide Oval was 37,932 for South Africa two years ago.

Day 1 terrestrial TV ratings in Australia peaked at 773,000, compared with 987,000 for Pakistan in the First Test at the Gabba two years ago.

I guess the host stadium authorities and the TV broadcaster can now see loud and clear just how small a drawcard an Indian tour is.

Pakistan doesnot even come close to India in terms of providing revenues. Name one official from a cricket board that says Pakistan is a bigger draw. I want a statement of a board official not your statements.

I can provide multiple statements by board officials saying India tour is their biggest or 2nd biggest draw.

Oh btw wasnt pcb literally dying for a india tour. Infact even suing for one.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Pakistan doesnot even come close to India in terms of providing revenues. Name one official from a cricket board that says Pakistan is a bigger draw. I want a statement of a board official not your statements.

I can provide multiple statements by board officials saying India tour is their biggest or 2nd biggest draw.

Oh btw wasnt pcb literally dying for a india tour. Infact even suing for one.

Then explain why there is suck of interest from Aussie fans.

Actually I was surprised the attendances in India test series weren't all that in England considering the diaspora in UK.

The answer is probably... cricket fatigue with so much cricket played all year round.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Then explain why there is suck of interest from Aussie fans.

Actually I was surprised the attendances in India test series weren't all that in England considering the diaspora in UK.

The answer is probably... cricket fatigue with so much cricket played all year round.

As posted by [MENTION=45053]cricketindiafan[/MENTION] tv viewers are going to be nearly the same as the 1st ashes test in Brisbane cpl of seasons back.

Attendance may not be as much as the last adelaide test because of reasons already stated. Its not a day night test. Sandpaper Gate.

Can you tell me what was the attendance in all 5 tests this summer?

 

[HitWicket]

https://m.rediff.com/amp/cricket/column/why-the-english-cricket-board-loves-kohli--co/20180918.htm


Read this.

Espncricinfo did a more detailed article.

I don't see any evidence in this article that concurs with your statement, it's also pretty poor journalism. It acknowledges that the rights are generally sold as 4 year packages then tries to use selective yearly fgures from the financial statements (that in addition to that issue will be affected by numerous other factors).

 

[HitWicket]

I don't see any evidence in this article that concurs with your statement, it's also pretty poor journalism. It acknowledges that the rights are generally sold as 4 year packages then tries to use selective yearly fgures from the financial statements (that in addition to that issue will be affected by numerous other factors).

Added to that with the statement: "Also, there were as many hoardings of Indian companies behind the boundary lines as British.", I'd question whether the author actually watched any of it...

 

[cricketjoshila]

I don't see anything in this article that concurs with your statement, it's also pretty poor journalism. It acknowledges that the rights are generally sold as 4 year packages then tries to use selective yearly fgures from the financial statements (that in addition to that issue will be affected by numerous other factors).

ECB made losses in its last two years and will make a profit this year on basis of India tour.

"But an ECB spokesman insisted the figures were explained by the cyclical nature of the business. And, with 2018 and 2019 (in which they host a World Cup and Test tours from India and Australia) expected to be significantly more lucrative, they insist the "long-term financial picture remains positive".

We do operate on a four-year financial cycle with India and Australia's incoming tours generating the greatest proportion of overall earnings," the ECB told ESPNcricinfo. "


http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_...future-accounts-show-significant-dip-reserves

As you see ECB makes profit on ashes and India tours. Rest of the 2 years they make losses.

 

[Last Monetarist]

Those are awful tv ratings posted by 7 and Fox, whichever way you want to spin it. It's on par with the ratings seen during the low profile 2015-16 season when the West Indies were touring in December. It puts paid to the myth that the Australian public see India as a great cricket rival. It's a shame because this is a very good Indian team.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Those are awful tv ratings posted by 7 and Fox, whichever way you want to spin it. It's on par with the ratings seen during the low profile 2015-16 season when the West Indies were touring in December. It puts paid to the myth that the Australian public see India as a great cricket rival. It's a shame because this is a very good Indian team.

From one of the articles posted by [MENTION=45053]cricketindiafan[/MENTION]

"these figures ran reasonably close to the equivalent match last summer, the first Test of the Ashes in Brisbane in late November,"

 

[Nikhil_cric]

The decline of test cricket is evident more than anything else. Soon you will have crowds only for Ashes in England and Australia and maybe for a few tests in India. Everywhere else will be like UAE. A few stragglers outnumbered by the number of crows in the stadium.

 

[Last Monetarist]

From one of the articles posted by [MENTION=45053]cricketindiafan[/MENTION]

"these figures ran reasonably close to the equivalent match last summer, the first Test of the Ashes in Brisbane in late November,"

No it's not. The average ratings for the Gabba test last year were 1.36 million, which is not reasonably close by any objective definition.

 

[Junaids]

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]
I keep saying that the Boards (which sell TV rights) do well out of India tours.

Clearly, however, neither stadium operators nor hotels nor restaurants nor airlines do.

 

[Junaids]

In 2017 CA distributed 112M to state associations. In 2016 they distributed 106M to state association. It's listed in CA's financial statement.

There goes the case.

And in the last three published financial reports, BCCI income and expenditure were identical.

So without the $395 million handout from the ICC they would be bankrupt.

It’s hardly rocket science. Their income is vast but so is their spending.

 

[HitWicket]

And in the last three published financial reports, BCCI income and expenditure were identical.

So without the $395 million handout from the ICC they would be bankrupt.

It’s hardly rocket science. Their income is vast but so is their spending.

Not sure what financial statements you're looking at? None of the recently available financial statements on the BCCI website have equal income and expenditure.

 

[cricketjoshila]

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]
I keep saying that the Boards (which sell TV rights) do well out of India tours.

Clearly, however, neither stadium operators nor hotels nor restaurants nor airlines do.

Stadium operators get money from CA.
[MENTION=97523]Buffet[/MENTION] posted the links.

Indian tourism contribution to Australia was 1.2bn usd in 12 months. [MENTION=45053]cricketindiafan[/MENTION] posted the link.

Try Again....

 

[USofA]

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]
I keep saying that the Boards (which sell TV rights) do well out of India tours.

Clearly, however, neither stadium operators nor hotels nor restaurants nor airlines do.

Why does CA not share its windfall $$$ from BCCI and Ashes with the stadium operators? Revenue from ticket sales will just about keep the utilities on. Nothing else. The serious money is TV money. Part of that needs to be shared.

But CA (let alone BCCI) is not responsible of hotels, restaurants or airline revenues.

 

[light]

Or maybe because test cricket is Dying and on it's last leg probably. Who really has time to watch 40h of cricket throughout the whole week. People got jobs, kids to feed, ain't nobody got time for that. Come odi and T20, stadium should be jammed packed as usual.

 

[Romali_rotti]

[MENTION=76058]
Clearly, however, neither stadium operators nor hotels nor restaurants nor airlines do.

lol this is cute.. sorry I had to write a reply at the mention of: hotels, restaurants & stadium operators

 

[Mamba Red]

The weekend should see a packed Adelaide Oval.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

lol this is cute.. sorry I had to write a reply at the mention of: hotels, restaurants & stadium operators

I cannot for the life me understand why you guys are you so riled up by this?

 

[Canford Cliffs]

So whats the conclusion guys? Who is more marketable in Australia? India or Pakistan?

 

[AlizeeFan]

And in the last three published financial reports, BCCI income and expenditure were identical.

So without the $395 million handout from the ICC they would be bankrupt.

It’s hardly rocket science. Their income is vast but so is their spending.

Which is actually free money ICC get because of boards?

What's next, you work for employer and when they give you your share, you call it handout.

Sure without handout which you don't deserve, you will be bankrupt and won't be able to feed yourself. Stop taking that handout from next time.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why does CA not share its windfall $$$ from BCCI and Ashes with the stadium operators? Revenue from ticket sales will just about keep the utilities on. Nothing else. The serious money is TV money. Part of that needs to be shared.

But CA (let alone BCCI) is not responsible of hotels, restaurants or airline revenues.

They already share it. [MENTION=97523]Buffet[/MENTION] posted the link.

 

[cricketindiafan]

Nice try, but in Australia you don’t buy your match ticket on the gate.

You buy it online many months in advance, with half of them sold during the first fortnight - up to a year in advance - when prices are discounted by 20%.

So a hot day makes very little difference.

Make up your mind mate. Earkier in the thread you said extremely high temperatures are quite common in Adelaide around this time of the year, which clearly is not the case going by the numbers I posted.

SACA Cricket officials are on record saying Eastern Stand which is uncovered was empty due to hostile conditions.

I know I am banging my head against the wall but number of times you've made up facts in this this alone is staggering.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

In 2017 CA distributed 112M to state associations. In 2016 they distributed 106M to state association. It's listed in CA's financial statement.

But but I thought state associations get revenue only through cricket sales and catering and they were independent if CA

 

[Mamba Red]

But but I thought state associations get revenue only through cricket sales and catering and they were independent if CA

Most of our sporting bodies distribute funds to the state associations.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Most of our sporting bodies distribute funds to the state associations.

And that's how it works in almost every country but some Australian resident would us believe that Australia is somehow unique and state associations make their profits on their own .

 

[shane]

For decades the Australian public has been watching their team winning everything and beating everyone. In recent years they have become a team of relative losers, and that is the only reason (along with Test cricket's general decline) that their fans do not want to watch them anymore.

 

[latecut]

Public is not turning up in a match involving Australia and India, neither Cricket Australia nor BCCI are worried, still it is giving sleepless nights to some who have no stakes in the matter.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Day 3 attendance 30,348 as per BT Sports

What are your sources saying brother [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]?

 

[Last Monetarist]

30k is a larger crowd than the capacity of all the grounds in England. I am sure the crowd would have been larger if the weather had been better today.

 

[Mamba Red]

And that's how it works in almost every country but some Australian resident would us believe that Australia is somehow unique and state associations make their profits on their own .

They do make profits through catering etc, but most of the money is distributed through CA.

 

[Varun]

You wanna know something weird?

Two years from now - 2020 - we will tour Australia again. 4 Tests. 5 ODIs.

Then they play the Ashes. 5 Tests.

The next time Aus come to India is only in 2022. But they do come over a couple of times before that for a smattering of ODIs.

Who designed this FTP?

 

[Canford Cliffs]

They do make profits through catering etc, but most of the money is distributed through CA.

How are you bro. Are Aust media still laughing at Indian team? You lack of participation in match thread since 1st day is worrying

 

[cricketindiafan]

You wanna know something weird?

Two years from now - 2020 - we will tour Australia again. 4 Tests. 5 ODIs.

Then they play the Ashes. 5 Tests.

The next time Aus come to India is only in 2022. But they do come over a couple of times before that for a smattering of ODIs.

Who designed this FTP?

BCCI have said they want to regularly play home series in India during Nov-Jan period to maximize TV revenue. Could be part of that deal.

 

[Junaids]

Day 3 attendance 30,348 as per BT Sports

What are your sources saying brother [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]?

Yes, for the third day in a row India has broken the record for the lowest attendance at a Test at the redeveloped Adelaide Oval.

The previous record low for Day 3 and record low for a Saturday was South Africa in 2016-17, who drew in 35,897 spectators.

So India has again scraped the bottom of the barrel, drawing in a paltry crowd 15% lower than the previous record low.

 

[Junaids]

Day 3 attendance 30,348 as per BT Sports

What are your sources saying brother [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]?

Public is not turning up in a match involving Australia and India, neither Cricket Australia nor BCCI are worried, still it is giving sleepless nights to some who have no stakes in the matter.

You wanna know something weird?

Two years from now - 2020 - we will tour Australia again. 4 Tests. 5 ODIs.

Then they play the Ashes. 5 Tests.

The next time Aus come to India is only in 2022. But they do come over a couple of times before that for a smattering of ODIs.

Who designed this FTP?

Exactly.

India are breaking every record for the lowest attendances, and the hotels, airlines, grounds and restaurants are bleeding. And the public isn’t even watching on TV, let alone at the ground.

But Cricket Australia couldn’t care less because they get the revenue from Indian TV rights.

It was the same in England: low crowds for India but the ECB was happy with the TV rights sales in India.

 

[Varun]

Exactly.

India are breaking every record for the lowest attendances, and the hotels, airlines, grounds and restaurants are bleeding. And the public isn’t even watching on TV, let alone at the ground.

But Cricket Australia couldn’t care less because they get the revenue from Indian TV rights.

It was the same in England: low crowds for India but the ECB was happy with the TV rights sales in India.

So bow down to the king etc.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Yes, for the third day in a row India has broken the record for the lowest attendance at a Test at the redeveloped Adelaide Oval.

The previous record low for Day 3 and record low for a Saturday was South Africa in 2016-17, who drew in 35,897 spectators.

So India has again scraped the bottom of the barrel, drawing in a paltry crowd 15% lower than the previous record low.

You are a legend brother. Most of us remembers only cricketers stats. You not only do that but also remember crowd attendance numbers )

But relax, when Pak tours next...it will be guaranteed housefull. Aussies will queue up in large numbers to watch charismatic players like Imam Ul Haq, Asad Shafiq and Babar Azam.

 

[Junaids]

For the record, New Zealand’s Saturday attendance at Adelaide in 2015-16 was 42,372.

So India attracted 15% less spectators than South Africa, and 28% less than New Zealand.

England on the Saturday got 52,201 spectators in 2017-18, so India came in 42% lower than them.

Absolutely devastating, crushing figures this week, proving that India are the team people don’t want to go and see.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

You are a legend brother. Most of us remembers only cricketers stats. You not only do that but also remember crowd attendance numbers )

But relax, when Pak tours next...it will be guaranteed housefull. Aussies will queue up in large numbers to watch charismatic players like Imam Ul Haq, Asad Shafiq and Babar Azam.

If you were an Aussie you would watch Pakistan too. Pop quiz time. Which is the only top 8 team to have lost every single test in Australia in last 23 years? (Hint: Its not Lanka or Windies) . Aussies know their cricket and a test match against Pakistan is a guaranteed win for Australia. Who wouldn't want to watch when their home team pounding on a top opposition is guaranteed. Great value for money!

 

[ikky47]

For the record, New Zealand’s Saturday attendance at Adelaide in 2015-16 was 42,372.

So India attracted 15% less spectators than South Africa, and 28% less than New Zealand.

England on the Saturday got 52,201 spectators in 2017-18, so India came in 42% lower than them.

Absolutely devastating, crushing figures this week, proving that India are the team people don’t want to go and see.

But them figures were for the DN test matches, as I said previously it is like comparing an apple with an orange. You cannot compared the attendance figures of a DN test match to a day test match.

 

[latecut]

If you were an Aussie you would watch Pakistan too. Pop quiz time. Which is the only top 8 team to have lost every single test in Australia in last 23 years? (Hint: Its not Lanka or Windies) . Aussies know their cricket and a test match against Pakistan is a guaranteed win for Australia. Who wouldn't want to watch when their home team pounding on a top opposition is guaranteed. Great value for money!

People would arrive to have fun. The TV rights would however go for a much lower value.

 

[Junaids]

But them figures were for the DN test matches, as I said previously it is like comparing an apple with an orange. You cannot compared the attendance figures of a DN test match to a day test match.

That’s the whole point.

This should have been a Day/Night Test. It was the Indians who refused to play one, on the basis that they are such a big draw that the public would want to come anyway.

Those of us who frequent the Adelaide Oval - and I have attended all three Day/Night Tests - know that the place to be is in the huge stands behind the bowlers’ arm in the Ricerbank stand. Those tickets sell for $120 per day - I should know because I’ve bought 22 of them these last three years!

But on TV these last three days the Riverbank stand has been absolutely empty apart from the Members’ Area.

Which tells us that ticket revenue is looking really, really bad.

The same thing happened when the ECB got Lords and Headingley to pay full England-Level hosting fees when Pakistan hosted Australia in 2010. And it nearly bankrupted Yorkshire.

It’s possible for the Boards to be happy with TV revenue while all the businesses dependent on the Cricket - even the grounds - are bleeding red ink.

And this tour is clearly headed that way. Melbourne should be better due to the huge NRI population, but Perth and Sydney are looking as vulnerable as Adelaide.

 

[Gilly]

Its a day test not a day/night test Junaids, you really need to accept it and get on with our life. Its time to move on and find something else to be outraged by.

 

[Junaids]

Perth is going to be interesting.

Clearly, Cricket Australia has scheduled the Test at the wrong ground - even the little WACA is too big for a minor opponent like India. Perth stadium is far too big for such unattractive tourists.

But there is the novelty factor of it being the first ever Test at the ground.

The question is whether the authorities will be willing to lower prices now to increase sales. I doubt that they will, because existing ticket holders would be enraged.

 

[Gilly]

Perth is going to be interesting.

Clearly, Cricket Australia has scheduled the Test at the wrong ground - even the little WACA is too big for a minor opponent like India. Perth stadium is far too big for such unattractive tourists.

But there is the novelty factor of it being the first ever Test at the ground.

The question is whether the authorities will be willing to lower prices now to increase sales. I doubt that they will, because existing ticket holders would be enraged.

Just oozes jealousy.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Perth is going to be interesting.

Clearly, Cricket Australia has scheduled the Test at the wrong ground - even the little WACA is too big for a minor opponent like India. Perth stadium is far too big for such unattractive tourists.

But there is the novelty factor of it being the first ever Test at the ground.

The question is whether the authorities will be willing to lower prices now to increase sales. I doubt that they will, because existing ticket holders would be enraged.

But India is a rank 1 test team...so how can they be minor opponents?

 

[Mamba Red]

How are you bro. Are Aust media still laughing at Indian team? You lack of participation in match thread since 1st day is worrying

Yeah, they are actually, at how much you rely on one or two players and how you haven't won a series in Australia, SA and how you have been smashed for the last few yers everytime you have stepped out of India.

 

[Junaids]

But India is a rank 1 test team...so how can they be minor opponents?

Because India sell 40% less tickets than England, 30% less than New Zealand and 15% less than South Africa.

To me, the WACA should host all Tests in Perth except the big guns, England and New Zealand.

(And they are the big guns because of their huge population numbers in WA!)

 

[Varun]

Yeah, they are actually, at how much you rely on one or two players and how you haven't won a series in Australia, SA and how you have been smashed for the last few yers everytime you have stepped out of India.

Can't tell if ironic.

 

[HitWicket]

Not sure what financial statements you're looking at? None of the recently available financial statements on the BCCI website have equal income and expenditure.

Nothing on this [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]?

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Because India sell 40% less tickets than England, 30% less than New Zealand and 15% less than South Africa.

To me, the WACA should host all Tests in Perth except the big guns, England and New Zealand.

(And they are the big guns because of their huge population numbers in WA!)

Ofcourse Eng would sell more tickets due to Ashes rivalry. NZ-Aust have a rivalry similar to Ind-Pak (in a much smaller scale) and hence local crowd connect to that game more. SA historically is a better test team than India and had long rivalries with Australia.

So its expected that a local Aussies would anyday prefer those above games than a sub continent team touring. Which part you are not understanding?

But how does that make India as a minor opponent? Jealousy is seeking from your posts bruv and even native Aussies (not Pakistani migrants like yourself) are calling you out in this thread.

 

[AlizeeFan]

Because India sell 40% less tickets than England, 30% less than New Zealand and 15% less than South Africa.

To me, the WACA should host all Tests in Perth except the big guns, England and New Zealand.

(And they are the big guns because of their huge population numbers in WA!)

Reports are there that ticket sales 20% are higher than England, 15% higher than New Zealand and 18% higher than SA and not lower as you have claimed.

 

[Gilly]

You are wrong about Perth.

India have the record for the most pre sales of tickets for a test match at the new stadium.

 

[Junaids]

Reports are there that ticket sales 20% are higher than England, 15% higher than New Zealand and 18% higher than SA and not lower as you have claimed.

The official day by day attendances are all listed in this thread.

 

[AlizeeFan]

The official day by day attendances are all listed in this thread.

What I listed was official announcement only.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Its a day test not a day/night test Junaids, you really need to accept it and get on with our life. Its time to move on and find something else to be outraged by.

He simply cant accept the fact that Pakistani team isnt a big draw like the Indian team. Hence the jealousy and attempt to belittle the indian team.

 

[Romali_rotti]

I cannot for the life me understand why you guys are you so riled up by this?

Dude, I don't care (swear on my mother's life) there ya go no you have it full honesty from the horse's mouth. Nobody cares in reality, barring the OP, well to be fair; OP doesn't care either, this is all about an ongoing frustration/depression which the word 'India' brings to OP's life. However I am a little worried for OP, something is just not right with him... I honestly hope he can find peace and move on without India affecting him in the current manner it is..

 

[BaankeJi]

That is easily explained by OP. It's because Australians care about test cricket more than ODI cricket.

That is not true for any nation. Even England.
India Australia T20 series was housefull.

 

[Junaids]

That is not true for any nation. Even England.
India Australia T20 series was housefull.

India Australia test is getting more attendance than ODI vs South Africa at the same ground one month back.

OP is just trying to spread nonsense. Not good for the reputation of PP.

In Australia, Test cricket subsidises 20 and 50 overs cricket.

Two $120 Test tickets bring in $240. Whereas it takes five 4 person Big Bash $50 Family Passes to achieve the same revenue.

So you often need 20 people to attend BBL to deliver the same revenue as 2 Test tickets.

International 20 and 50 overs cricket are dying in Australia. The same Cricket Australia which is happy to invite India every couple of years to play before empty Test stadia (for the TV revenue) has also sold 20 and 50 overs international cricket exclusively to a subscription satellite and cable delivered channel that nobody can access during the day.

So international limited overs cricket in Australia is now on life support.

It was good that lots of Indians attended the recent limited overs series in Australia, but it’s not clear whether they can’t afford Test tickets or just aren’t sophisticated enough to want to.

 

[pmahones]

In Australia, Test cricket subsidises 20 and 50 overs cricket.

Two $120 Test tickets bring in $240. Whereas it takes five 4 person Big Bash $50 Family Passes to achieve the same revenue.

So you often need 20 people to attend BBL to deliver the same revenue as 2 Test tickets.

International 20 and 50 overs cricket are dying in Australia. The same Cricket Australia which is happy to invite India every couple of years to play before empty Test stadia (for the TV revenue) has also sold 20 and 50 overs international cricket exclusively to a subscription satellite and cable delivered channel that nobody can access during the day.

So international limited overs cricket in Australia is now on life support.

It was good that lots of Indians attended the recent limited overs series in Australia, but it’s not clear whether they can’t afford Test tickets or just aren’t sophisticated enough to want to.

May they don't feel like supporting a bunch of organized cheats like australia?

I mean the level of conniving in sandpaper gate would make any fan with level integrity to puke at the thought of supporting Aus cricket in anyway or form.

 

[Junaids]

May they don't feel like supporting a bunch of organized cheats like australia?

I mean the level of conniving in sandpaper gate would make any fan with level integrity to puke at the thought of supporting Aus cricket in anyway or form.

Good point, but you might recall that two years ago when India was hosting South Africa I freeze-framed the TV coverage and uploaded onto PakPassion a picture of Umesh Yadav’s hand, on which he had one much, much longer fingernail than the others.

Ball-tampering is a disgrace which should attract heavy punishments - it changes results far more than spotfixing does.

I think that Cricket Australia is a terrible custodian of cricket in this country.

They get on their knees for Indian TV revenue for themselves, indifferent to the fact that the public doesn’t want such frequent tours by India.

And they have sold 20 and 50 overs internationals to the highest bidder, which hides them where nobody can watch them. Which will ruin cricket’s status in the country just like the ECB did after 2005.

 

[pmahones]

Good point, but you might recall that two years ago when India was hosting South Africa I freeze-framed the TV coverage and uploaded onto PakPassion a picture of Umesh Yadav’s hand, on which he had one much, much longer fingernail than the others.

Ball-tampering is a disgrace which should attract heavy punishments - it changes results far more than spotfixing does.

I think that Cricket Australia is a terrible custodian of cricket in this country.

They get on their knees for Indian TV revenue for themselves, indifferent to the fact that the public doesn’t want such frequent tours by India.

And they have sold 20 and 50 overs internationals to the highest bidder, which hides them where nobody can watch them. Which will ruin cricket’s status in the country just like the ECB did after 2005.

and there also been footage of stuart broad stepping with his pike on a ball, Faf du Plessis zippering the ball and who could miss it, afridi biting the ball

no other team went to the level of coordination and organization that Aus showed.

I'm sure you took all that into consideration.

 

[Sachin136]

Good point, but you might recall that two years ago when India was hosting South Africa I freeze-framed the TV coverage and uploaded onto PakPassion a picture of Umesh Yadav’s hand, on which he had one much, much longer fingernail than the others.

Ball-tampering is a disgrace which should attract heavy punishments - it changes results far more than spotfixing does.

I think that Cricket Australia is a terrible custodian of cricket in this country.

They get on their knees for Indian TV revenue for themselves, indifferent to the fact that the public doesn’t want such frequent tours by India.

And they have sold 20 and 50 overs internationals to the highest bidder, which hides them where nobody can watch them. Which will ruin cricket’s status in the country just like the ECB did after 2005.

Everyone does it using their nails. Sandpaper, bottle caps, etc are much worse which is why there was such outrage.

And again, have you done a survey to see what the Australian public wants?

 

[leg-side-flick]

Good point, but you might recall that two years ago when India was hosting South Africa I freeze-framed the TV coverage and uploaded onto PakPassion a picture of Umesh Yadav’s hand, on which he had one much, much longer fingernail than the others.

Ball-tampering is a disgrace which should attract heavy punishments - it changes results far more than spotfixing does.

I think that Cricket Australia is a terrible custodian of cricket in this country.

They get on their knees for Indian TV revenue for themselves, indifferent to the fact that the public doesn’t want such frequent tours by India.

And they have sold 20 and 50 overs internationals to the highest bidder, which hides them where nobody can watch them. Which will ruin cricket’s status in the country just like the ECB did after 2005.

I think it's just you who doesn't want India to your Australia, sadly for you neither CA nor BCCI cares.

But the Australian cricket team might agree with you, the way they are playing this bunch of " nobodies" might give them a good thrashing......

 

[RainMan_]

Good point, but you might recall that two years ago when India was hosting South Africa I freeze-framed the TV coverage and uploaded onto PakPassion a picture of Umesh Yadav’s hand, on which he had one much, much longer fingernail than the others.

Ball-tampering is a disgrace which should attract heavy punishments - it changes results far more than spotfixing does.

I think that Cricket Australia is a terrible custodian of cricket in this country.

They get on their knees for Indian TV revenue for themselves, indifferent to the fact that the public doesn’t want such frequent tours by India.

And they have sold 20 and 50 overs internationals to the highest bidder, which hides them where nobody can watch them. Which will ruin cricket’s status in the country just like the ECB did after 2005.

So, u r trying to say that IND-AUS series is mostly watched by the Indian Indians, isn't it? The only reason CA invites India because they want the share of that TV revenue.

The poor Crowd attendance in this series clearly suggests that Australians don't enjoy watching India as much as deluded Indians try to make us to believe.

What is the main reason behind this? After all India is still the no 1 test team. Do Australians consider India as the fake no 1? Is that why they don't care for this border-gavaskar series as much as they do for Aus-Eng or Aus-SA series?

 

[Junaids]

So, u r trying to say that IND-AUS series is mostly watched by the Indian Indians, isn't it? The only reason CA invites India because they want the share of that TV revenue.

The poor Crowd attendance in this series clearly suggests that Australians don't enjoy watching India as much as deluded Indians try to make us to believe.

What is the main reason behind this? After all India is still the no 1 test team. Do Australians consider India as the fake no 1? Is that why they don't care for this border-gavaskar series as much as they do for Aus-Eng or Aus-SA series?

Have no worry. I am watching the match on TV with interest. That should help CA earn enough from TV revenue to tide over the crisis.

I think we again have the problem of India fans not understanding that the economic interests of the Boards are not the same as the economic interests of the businesses which depend upon cricket.

And the economic interests of the Boards have nothing to do with what the cricket public wants.

Cricket Australia earns the same revenue - exclusively from private TV stations in India - whether 50,000 spectators attend for an England match, 45,000 for a New Zealand match or 23,000 for India.

They don’t care that the hotel at the stadium is discounting rooms from $500 to $150 because nobody has come from India or interstate.

They don’t care that the bars and restaurants across the river from the ground are empty.

But guess what. The Aussie public couldn’t care less that Cricket Australia has earned a fortune from Indian TV.

The Aussie public sees that its favourite Day/Night Test has been axed to suck up to the Indian Board, and that they get served up a never ending diet of series against an Indian team whom they don’t just dislike and disrespect, they are actually disinterested in having to watch India so much more frequently than New Zealand or South Africa.

Cricket Australia tried to drum up interest by paying for that ridiculous Fox Cricket documentary about the Imaginary Rivalry with India.

But the Aussie public just ignored that show - it’s viewer numbers were too low to generate a rating - like they are ignoring this series.

Which is a shame, because the teams are both so flawed and so similar in lack-of-quality that the first three innings have been quite interesting.

Neither of these teams would have been in the world’s Top Five Test teams at any point from 1974-2014. But the lack of quality on both sides is making the game surprisingly interesting.

 

[Third_Umpire]

Maybe no one's at the stadium watching the cricket because they are glued to their TVs watching that BCCI documentary about how Australia v India is actually a rivalry?

 

[BaankeJi]

In Australia, Test cricket subsidises 20 and 50 overs cricket.

Two $120 Test tickets bring in $240. Whereas it takes five 4 person Big Bash $50 Family Passes to achieve the same revenue.

So you often need 20 people to attend BBL to deliver the same revenue as 2 Test tickets.

International 20 and 50 overs cricket are dying in Australia. The same Cricket Australia which is happy to invite India every couple of years to play before empty Test stadia (for the TV revenue) has also sold 20 and 50 overs international cricket exclusively to a subscription satellite and cable delivered channel that nobody can access during the day.

So international limited overs cricket in Australia is now on life support.

It was good that lots of Indians attended the recent limited overs series in Australia, but it’s not clear whether they can’t afford Test tickets or just aren’t sophisticated enough to want to.

All of this is irrelevant. We are talking about whether Indian team attracts crowd or not. It does so more than other teams as I said earlier.

 

[Hawkeye]

What's going on?

Just tuned into the match. What is this, freaking ABU DHABI!?!?

Why there's NO crowd? Empty stands? I SO LOVE watching Aus Test matches, if not packed grounds then they at least have some filled stands.

It's all empty, at least from what's on the camera.


Another Dubai/Abu Dhabi.

[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] was it like this on all the days or just day 4?

 

[Hawkeye]

Maybe no one's at the stadium watching the cricket because they are glued to their TVs watching that BCCI documentary about how Australia v India is actually a rivalry?

Looks like there was a lot of fake hype in the media, but all I'm seeing is another Abu Dhabi in the ground.

 

[MenInG]

Looks like comprehension issues with some - Do not make personal remarks about any poster.

Unfortunately this seems to be the only way some people can argue their cases so suggest stop it or cool your heels outside PP for a few weeks.

Hope this is clear.

 

[cricketindiafan]

What's going on?

Just tuned into the match. What is this, freaking ABU DHABI!?!?

Why there's NO crowd? Empty stands? I SO LOVE watching Aus Test matches, if not packed grounds then they at least have some filled stands.

It's all empty, at least from what's on the camera.


Another Dubai/Abu Dhabi.

[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] was it like this on all the days or just day 4?

They’ll still have 20k in the stands. 23k, 25k, 30k and 20 k today - that’s nearly 100k in 4 days. Not quite Abudhabi you know. Should have been better but multiple factors are at play
1. Aussies are without two of their biggest draws -Warner and Smith and have been losing
2. Very hot weather unusual for Adelaide
3. Train strikes over the weekend

 

[leg-side-flick]

They’ll still have 20k in the stands. 23k, 25k, 30k and 20 k today - that’s nearly 100k in 4 days. Not quite Abudhabi you know. Should have been better but multiple factors are at play
1. Aussies are without two of their biggest draws -Warner and Smith and have been losing
2. Very hot weather unusual for Adelaide
3. Train strikes over the weekend

Nah it's actually Kohli + 10 unknowns and that's why no Australian wants to watch Even when. BCCI and CA are forcing down their throats.

Plus who wants to watch a team that won't feature in the top 5 ranking from 70's till now.

We should continue to watch high quality tests where a top ranked NZ side beats a second ranked Pak side in front of 11 spectators, 12 crows and a camel.

 

[Hawkeye]

They’ll still have 20k in the stands. 23k, 25k, 30k and 20 k today - that’s nearly 100k in 4 days. Not quite Abudhabi you know. Should have been better but multiple factors are at play
1. Aussies are without two of their biggest draws -Warner and Smith and have been losing
2. Very hot weather unusual for Adelaide
3. Train strikes over the weekend

Are those numbers officially released (for today also) or you're trying to calculate/predict?

 

[Junaids]

What's going on?

Just tuned into the match. What is this, freaking ABU DHABI!?!?

Why there's NO crowd? Empty stands? I SO LOVE watching Aus Test matches, if not packed grounds then they at least have some filled stands.

It's all empty, at least from what's on the camera.


Another Dubai/Abu Dhabi.

[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] was it like this on all the days or just day 4?

They’ll still have 20k in the stands. 23k, 25k, 30k and 20 k today - that’s nearly 100k in 4 days. Not quite Abudhabi you know. Should have been better but multiple factors are at play
1. Aussies are without two of their biggest draws -Warner and Smith and have been losing
2. Very hot weather unusual for Adelaide
3. Train strikes over the weekend

The Indian excuses are a little amusing.

How does hot weather affect an Australian Test crowd? Everyone buys their tickets at least six months in advance.

And train strikes? Really? The trains just got replaced with buses!

 

[cricketjoshila]

The Indian excuses are a little amusing.

How does hot weather affect an Australian Test crowd? Everyone buys their tickets at least six months in advance.

And train strikes? Really? The trains just got replaced with buses!

Who said everyone buys their ticket in 6 months advance? Do you have a credible source for this statement?

Post a credible link.

 

[RainMan_]

The Indian excuses are a little amusing.

How does hot weather affect an Australian Test crowd? Everyone buys their tickets at least six months in advance.

And train strikes? Really? The trains just got replaced with buses!

Exactly. Just replace India with Eng or SA and then see the result.

 

[Junaids]

Lowest crowd of the match on Day 4, even though it’s a Sunday and the match was well poised.

22,157 was today’s attendance for a total of 102,000 over the four days so far.

New Zealand attracted 123,736 sales in 3 days.

India have sold 102,000 tickets in 4 days.

So ticket sales are around $4 million under targeted levels.

It’s been interesting today to hear from Cricket Australia that India will only be invited back to play Tests in Adelaide if they agree to play Day/Night matches.

Otherwise they will get Canberra or Hobart instead.

I think Cricket Australia are going through exactly what the ECB did four months ago and Cricket South Africa did in January.

They had all actually started to believe that India was a close second to England as a Box Office magnet, and 2018 has taught them that India delivers TV revenue and very little else.

 

[RainMan_]

Junaids,

Is there any way to find out how many of those spectators were Indians living in Australia ?