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Mohammad Rizwan : A bubble that will burst against good bowling and teams in the ICC T20 World Cup

Anyone who still thinks Rizwan isn't one of the best T20 openers in the world currently is out of touch with cricket
 
Has the perfect combination of both a high average and a high strike-rate.

Oh and just btw his SR as opener is 143. Significantly higher than both Sharjeel and Fakhar. So maybe something the SR brigade should ponder over.
 
He is in the absolute prime of his career, both mentally and physically. Hopefully it lasts for 3-4 years.

He will go down as Pakistan’s greatest WK batsman ever. Purely on quality wise he is already the best ever IMO, but perhaps needs some more performances under his belt to truly cement himself in the upper pantheons of Pakistan cricket.

As a keeper, he is right up there with Rashid Latif and as a batsman, he is better than all of them including 2005-2006 Kamran Akmal.

So he is definitely the best WK batsman Pakistan has ever produced.
 
Mamoon said:
He is in the absolute prime of his career, both mentally and physically. Hopefully it lasts for 3-4 years.

He will go down as Pakistan’s greatest WK batsman ever. Purely on quality wise he is already the best ever IMO, but perhaps needs some more performances under his belt to truly cement himself in the upper pantheons of Pakistan cricket.

As a keeper, he is right up there with Rashid Latif and as a batsman, he is better than all of them including 2005-2006 Kamran Akmal.

So he is definitely the best WK batsman Pakistan has ever produced.
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Your second ever post I absolutely agree with
 
Mamoon said:
He is in the absolute prime of his career, both mentally and physically. Hopefully it lasts for 3-4 years.

He will go down as Pakistan’s greatest WK batsman ever. Purely on quality wise he is already the best ever IMO, but perhaps needs some more performances under his belt to truly cement himself in the upper pantheons of Pakistan cricket.

As a keeper, he is right up there with Rashid Latif and as a batsman, he is better than all of them including 2005-2006 Kamran Akmal.

So he is definitely the best WK batsman Pakistan has ever produced.
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Agreed with you completely. If there is one Pak player who will walk into the great Indian test team of 2015-2021+, it is Mohammad Rizwan.
 
Except for three four toxic haters who support Sarfaraz on pure ethnic basis, no one on this forum dislikes Rizwan.
 
Talk Nah [MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION]

Sharjeel the chosen one on the other looked like a bloody shambles out there today :)) so much for going out guns blazing

Riswan isn’t perfect but he is the toughest cricketer I’ve seen in a while, Pak are lucky to have him among a mediocre bunch other then Babar
 
Ab Fan said:
Agreed with you completely. If there is one Pak player who will walk into the great Indian test team of 2015-2021+, it is Mohammad Rizwan.
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The great Indian test team and runners up of the world test championship!
 
shaz619 said:
Talk Nah [MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION]

Sharjeel the chosen one on the other looked like a bloody shambles out there today :)) so much for going out guns blazing

Riswan isn’t perfect but he is the toughest cricketer I’ve seen in a while, Pak are lucky to have him among a mediocre bunch other then Babar
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Love to see such posters getting smashed and taken to the cleaners regularly for backing unfit fat fixers and questioning loyal, hardworking players like Rizwan.
 
The bubble is getting bigger...........and not bursting I would say.
 
Most runs ever in T20Is in a calendar year:

Mohammad Rizwan 752 in 2021
Paul Stirling 748 in 2019
Kevin O'Brien 729 in 2019


Mohammad Rizwan in T20Is this year:

Innings 14
Runs 752
Average 94.00
Strike-rate 140.03
Hundreds 1
Fifties 7


Mohammad Rizwan in T20Is in 2021:

46 off 36 balls
76* off 57
37 off 29
63 off 41
91* off 60
13 off 18
82* off 61
0 off 2
73* off 47
0 off 1
74* off 50
42 off 30
51 off 41
104* off 64
 
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It is almost inevitable.

He will be the only Pakistani batsman to put up a fight in our defeat to India in the upcoming WT20, and certain fans will bash him because his fifty did not come in 12 balls and how he doesn’t fit into the T20 lineup…
 
Rizwan is a class allrounder. Can't believe don't give him the credit.
Hopefully will be part of the team for a long time whether thats opening or batting down the order.
He is probably second best batsmen in the team currently behind Babar.

Best Wicket Keeper in the world currently.
 
Mamoon said:
It is almost inevitable.

He will be the only Pakistani batsman to put up a fight in our defeat to India in the upcoming WT20, and certain fans will bash him because his fifty did not come in 12 balls and how he doesn’t fit into the T20 lineup…
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He definitely is a fighter with good mental fortitude. Stories of his work ethic have been circulating, and they are corroborated by his improvement has a player since his return.

I am slightly optimistic (perhaps naively so) about Pakistan's chances against India. By optimistic, I say that we have a 3/10 chance of winning.
 
Can't believe there would be Pak fans who would question this quality player.
 
iniqbal223 said:
Since T20 WC is around the corner , I will just do T20 & ODI comparison:

I am not a Sarfaraz fan , but a deep dive to Rizwan's inflated heroics can help to manage our expectations

Rizwan top innings vs teams (excluding Zimbabwe , since they are not in T20 WC)

89 vs NZ (Bowlers : Boult, Southee) good innings

17(17 balls ) vs NZ (Santner, Duffee, Tickner) No Boult, Southee, etc.

22(20 balls ) vs NZ (Southee, Boult, Neesham)

104 * vs SA (Bowlers : Sipmala, Fortuin, Seyman , Dala)

74 * vs SA (Bowlers : Linde, Lizaad, Magala)

73* vs SA (Bowlers : Linde, Lizaad, Magala)

82 vs Zimbabwe
91* vs Zimbabwe

14 (16 balls) vs Australia (Bowlers : Starc, Cummins)

31 (33 balls) vs Australia (Bowlers : Starc, Cummins)

0 vs Australia (Starc 1st ball duck)

63 vs England (Bowlers : Tom Curran, Saqib, Wiley, etc.) Moeen did not bowl
37 vs England (Bowlers : Tom Curran, Jordan bowled 1 over, Rashid, Moeen)

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ODIs
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74 vs England (Bowlers : Saqib, Parkinson, Gregory, etc.)

40 vs SA (Bowlers : Rabada, Ngidi, Nortje)

0 vs SA (Bowlers : Rabada, Ngidi, Nortje)

2 vs SA (Bowlers : Sipmala, Hendriks, Smuts)

104 vs Australia in UAE 2019 (Bowlers : Stoinis, NCN, Kane Richardson) No Starc, Hazlewood, Cummins, etc.

115 vs Australia in UAE 2019 (Bowlers : Stoinis, NCN, Jhye Richardson) No Starc, Halewood, Cummins, etc.


=== The most overhyped cricketer for sure===
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Awww poor chap..keep drinking the salty tears.

Pakistani fans like you are the most ungrateful in the sport. Go follow another sport instead.
 
He is the best wicketkeeper batsman in the world right now.No one comes close.

Best player in the team and best t20i batsman right now
 
As an Indian test captain, walking into Day 5 of a test match vs Pakistan or going into LOI knockout of a World Tournament, Kohli would be more wary of getting the wicket of Rizwan than any other Pakistani batsman.

This is an era of two great wicket keeper batsmen- Rishabh Pant and Mohammad Rizwan.
 
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He was out LBW, but WI did not appeal; He is certainly riding his luck very well
Some players can't capitalize on chances, he did today

Still a far way from him when he is tested while chasing a high score against good bowling!!

But yes, he is better WK than Akmals, of course
 
I really don’t see the point of this thread. Plus if you are not satisfied by the current performances of M. Riz/B.Azam then I really don’t know what to say, I mean its the Pakistani team batting which has never been consistent, just look at the scorecard of yesterday
 
Rizwan >>>> babar in terms of impact.

As an Indian, it will induce more fear to see Rizwan.

With babar, it's the same feeling as Misbah. Don't get him out and win the match.
 
iniqbal223 said:
He was out LBW, but WI did not appeal; He is certainly riding his luck very well
Some players can't capitalize on chances, he did today

Still a far way from him when he is tested while chasing a high score against good bowling!!

But yes, he is better WK than Akmals, of course
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He wasn't out LBW it's not his fault West Indies didn't review.Rizwan is the best Wicket keeper in the world akmal doesn't even come close.
 
Terrific cricketer. If I make an Indo-Pak T20 all time XI, he walks into it automatically as other keeper batsman have performed poorly in T20Is.

Rohit
Rizwan(wkt)
Kohli
Yuvraj
KL
Pandya
Afridi
Hafeez( can bat anywhere, blessed in all facets)
Bhuvi
Gul
Bumrah
 
Ab Fan said:
Terrific cricketer. If I make an Indo-Pak T20 all time XI, he walks into it automatically as other keeper batsman have performed poorly in T20Is.

Rohit
Rizwan(wkt)
Kohli
Yuvraj
KL
Pandya
Afridi
Hafeez( can bat anywhere, blessed in all facets)
Bhuvi
Gul
Bumrah
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I will replace Rizwan with Dhoni and make him the captain of this team. The guy knows something about winning T20 tournaments. :kohli

I will replace Hafeez with Ajmal. There is no need for him when Afridi and Yuvi are in the same team. Check Ajmal's T20 stats.

I will keep Afridi and remove Pandya because Afridi can hit sixes against any bowler, has a better strike rate and is a handy bowler too. He too knows something about performing in finals of tournaments.

Rohit
Rahul
Kohli
Raina
Yuvi
Dhoni (c) (wk)
Afridi
Bhuvi
Ajmal
Gul
Bumrah

:inti
 
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Ab Fan said:
Terrific cricketer. If I make an Indo-Pak T20 all time XI, he walks into it automatically as other keeper batsman have performed poorly in T20Is.

Rohit
Rizwan(wkt)
Kohli
Yuvraj
KL
Pandya
Afridi
Hafeez( can bat anywhere, blessed in all facets)
Bhuvi
Gul
Bumrah
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I would go

Rohit
Rizwan
Babar
Kohli
Yuvraj
Dhoni WK
Afridi
Hassan Ali
Gul
Ajmal
Bumrah
 
Rizwan is Pakistani modern great; and for the first time in 10 years , he has officially closed doors on Akmal family

Sarfaraz performance was up and down; and kept Akmals in the news every time. So, I would like to thank Rizwan for this

But still feel Sarfaraz is a better captain; if just Sarfaraz can improve his fitness and perform in whatever chances he get , we can play both Sarf and Rizwan (at least both are safe fielders)
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
I will replace Rizwan with Dhoni and make him the captain of this team. The guy knows something about winning T20 tournaments. :kohli

I will replace Hafeez with Ajmal. There is no need for him when Afridi and Yuvi are in the same team. Check Ajmal's T20 stats.

I will keep Afridi and remove Pandya because Afridi can hit sixes against any bowler, has a better strike rate and is a handy bowler too. He too knows something about performing in finals of tournaments.

Rohit
Rahul
Kohli
Raina
Yuvi
Dhoni (c) (wk)
Afridi
Bhuvi
Ajmal
Gul
Bumrah

:inti
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Rizwan >>> Dhoni as T20 player.

Dhoni at his position should be striking atleast 136 but he strikes at 126.

Even Younis Khan has won a WT20 as many as Dhoni has won as captain so that doesn't mean we should pick him also.

Both Rizwan and KL >>>>>>> Dhoni as T20 player.

:inti
 
shamaan said:
I would go

Rohit
Rizwan
Babar
Kohli
Yuvraj
Dhoni WK
Afridi
Hassan Ali
Gul
Ajmal
Bumrah
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Too many accumulators. They will play T20 like extended version of ODIs. Not a great team in my opinion.
 
Ab Fan said:
As an Indian test captain, walking into Day 5 of a test match vs Pakistan or going into LOI knockout of a World Tournament, Kohli would be more wary of getting the wicket of Rizwan than any other Pakistani batsman.

This is an era of two great wicket keeper batsmen- Rishabh Pant and Mohammad Rizwan.
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Pant is level below Rizwan in WK. They are not on same level as WK-Batsman. Rizwan is above with combination of his WK skills and Batting.

Their careers are unfolding so we will see what happens in longer terms.
 
Hitman said:
Can't believe there would be Pak fans who would question this quality player.
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These are very few people and they are not Pakistan fans. They belong to the same ethnicity that Sarfraz belongs to so you will see few of them pop up on twitter, PP etc with claims of Sarfraz being a legend and icon of the game with his 22 average in SENA. They do not care if Rizwan averages 44 in SENA or has scored highest number of runs in the year or whatever. He is the reason that unfit, mediocre Sarfraz is out of the team so they will keep hating him.
 
Rizwan is a world class cricketer

We are very lucky to have him considering the lack of talent
 
Superb player. Excellent batsman and excellent keeper.

Could be amongst the best wicket keeper - batsman Pakistan has ever produced. One of the best T20 players in the world at the moment.
 
MesonK said:
These are very few people and they are not Pakistan fans. They belong to the same ethnicity that Sarfraz belongs to so you will see few of them pop up on twitter, PP etc with claims of Sarfraz being a legend and icon of the game with his 22 average in SENA. They do not care if Rizwan averages 44 in SENA or has scored highest number of runs in the year or whatever. He is the reason that unfit, mediocre Sarfraz is out of the team so they will keep hating him.
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+1 couldn't have said it better myself. The other ones who hate him are the non Pashto speakers from Khyber Pukhtunkhwa
 
GudduBadmash said:
You can appreciate him without being insecure for your own favourite player Pant bro. Takes a bigger man to appreciate talent regardless of competition
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Rizwan and Pant are going to be the Sachin and Lara of this generation's wicketkeepers:sachin:lara
 
Ab Fan said:
Rizwan >>> Dhoni as T20 player.

Dhoni at his position should be striking atleast 136 but he strikes at 126.

Even Younis Khan has won a WT20 as many as Dhoni has won as captain so that doesn't mean we should pick him also.

Both Rizwan and KL >>>>>>> Dhoni as T20 player.

:inti
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This proves that you do not do any research before posting your XI lol.

Rizwan's best position to bat is opening. When you have guys like Rahul and Rohit you don't need Rizwan at the top. Also at least check Younis Khan's stats before comparing him with Dhoni in LOIs and his captaincy. :inti
 
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GudduBadmash said:
You can appreciate him without being insecure for your own favourite player Pant bro. Takes a bigger man to appreciate talent regardless of competition
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I have no problem with that, trust me.
The way pp rates t20 players is just outdated and I don't think players like rizwan and Babar are anywhere near the top t20 players.
In tests Rizwan is probably the best in the world as of now and I have no problem in accepting that.
 
GudduBadmash said:
You can appreciate him without being insecure for your own favourite player Pant bro. Takes a bigger man to appreciate talent regardless of competition
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Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
This proves that you do not do any research before posting your XI lol.

Rizwan's best position to bat is opening. When you have guys like Rahul and Rohit you don't need Rizwan at the top. Also at least check Younis Khan's stats before comparing him with Dhoni in LOIs and his captaincy. :inti
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We don't need Dhoni who won one out of 6 or 7 t20 world cups he participated in.
Why pick a specialist captain, first you need to select the best eleven players and then choose a captain, that's how it goes.
 
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GudduBadmash said:
+1 couldn't have said it better myself. The other ones who hate him are the non Pashto speakers from Khyber Pukhtunkhwa
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Thanks ... We should also remember that these haters are just few in number. they do not represent any majority.

Ironically for me ... I am paternally from Rizwans ethnicity and maternally from Sarfraz. :afridi But I support Rizwan only because of his much much superior stats.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
This proves that you do not do any research before posting your XI lol.

Rizwan's best position to bat is opening. When you have guys like Rahul and Rohit you don't need Rizwan at the top. Also at least check Younis Khan's stats before comparing him with Dhoni in LOIs and his captaincy. :inti
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Not really. It proves that you are not aware of how fascinating the T20 batsman MS Dhoni was to begin with.

MSD played as many as 6 World T20 tournaments and his record is as awful as you could expect. He has a pretty awful S/R of 123 in WT20s and has not scored even a single 50 in his six international World T20s. Not even a single 50 over a course of six World T20 tournaments. He has no memorable knock in WT20 and his performance in WT20 is as bad as Bumrah's performance in WTC this year.

Also, I have Rizwan in my team as opener only which is his position.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
I have no problem with that, trust me.
The way pp rates t20 players is just outdated and I don't think players like rizwan and Babar are anywhere near the top t20 players.
In tests Rizwan is probably the best in the world as of now and I have no problem in accepting that.
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Lowest dot ball percentage after Miller
Record # of T20i runs, 6 games less than the dasher Sterling . May end up first to reach 1000 at this rate and I hope he does.
Striking at 140+ since opening
Averaging around 100 in games won for Pakistan with 7 Fifties
Hit the most number of sixes for Pakistan since opening.

Not sure what he has to do do earn a little respect. He has fully proven people wrong. By Pakistani standards that's very good T20 numbers
 
Ab Fan said:
Not really. It proves that you are not aware of how fascinating the T20 batsman MS Dhoni was to begin with.

MSD played as many as 6 World T20 tournaments and his record is as awful as you could expect. He has a pretty awful S/R of 123 in WT20s and has not scored even a single 50 in his six international World T20s. Not even a single 50 over a course of six World T20 tournaments. He has no memorable knock in WT20 and his performance in WT20 is as bad as Bumrah's performance in WTC this year.

Also, I have Rizwan in my team as opener only which is his position.
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You picked your XI from both Indo-Pak. Here are your options

Kamran Akmal
Mohammed Rizwan
Pant
Dhoni

Kami and Rizwan both are openers. I don't need them when we have someone like Rohit and Rahul. Pant will most likely bat at 4-5 and Dhoni will mostly bat at 6-7. The team you chose lacked a captain who knows something about winning tournaments. Dhoni gets the edge above Pant and others. You think captaining a team in a tournament is like a walk in the park lol. Ask Kohli who is dying to win a tournament. And relax this is not a real team who is going to World Cup lol. :inti
 
Whatever he does, for some it will never be enough.

I interviewed him recently and it was an absolute pleasure.

One of the things he said was "who am I to stop people earning money from criticising me on Youtube or TV. However the criticism seems to be reducing, so I must be doing something right" :)
 
Ab Fan said:
Too many accumulators. They will play T20 like extended version of ODIs. Not a great team in my opinion.
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Maybe 1 to many accumulaters il have to drop Rizwan and play Babar at opening as i already have dhoni thier for WK.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
You picked your XI from both Indo-Pak. Here are your options

Kamran Akmal
Mohammed Rizwan
Pant
Dhoni

Kami and Rizwan both are openers. I don't need them when we have someone like Rohit and Rahul. Pant will most likely bat at 4-5 and Dhoni will mostly bat at 6-7. The team you chose lacked a captain who knows something about winning tournaments. Dhoni gets the edge above Pant and others. You think captaining a team in a tournament is like a walk in the park lol. Ask Kohli who is dying to win a tournament. And relax this is not a real team who is going to World Cup lol. :inti
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Dhoni has won only one tournament out of as many as six chances of captaining a WT20. Lets not fool ourselves on baseless illusion.

As a batter, Dhoni is a poor man's Rizwan. He doesn't have a single 50 over a period of 6 ICC World T20s. Basically, he is a Bhuvi level batsman in WT20s. Pandya is comfortably a better T20 bat than Dhoni. He strikes at 150 compared to Dhoni's 126.

I will have Rizwan open with Rohit and the Koffee With Karan duo in the middle order :inti
 
Ab Fan said:
Dhoni has won only one tournament out of as many as six chances of captaining a WT20. Lets not fool ourselves on baseless illusion.

As a batter, Dhoni is a poor man's Rizwan. He doesn't have a single 50 over a period of 6 ICC World T20s. Basically, he is a Bhuvi level batsman in WT20s. Pandya is comfortably a better T20 bat than Dhoni. He strikes at 150 compared to Dhoni's 126.

I will have Rizwan open with Rohit and the Koffee With Karan duo in the middle order :inti
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Rizwan is decentish player; but comparing him with MSD is too much
just wait for some time when Rizwan fails and everyone will wants him to be sacked asap
 
iniqbal223 said:
Rizwan is decentish player; but comparing him with MSD is too much
just wait for some time when Rizwan fails and everyone will wants him to be sacked asap
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We are discussing about T20s, not ODIs. Dhoni is an ODI all time great but in T20s, he was a pretty average batsman. Basically, he was just a Bhuvi level batsman with an extended capability of hitting a six of final ball of the match irrespective of the game situation.
 
Babar and Rizwan are the only two world class batsmen we have at the moment, who could walk into any XI.

The rest of our so called batsmen are as talentless, useless, and as dumb as their fans including the OP and his followers.
 
Most Sixes in T20Is since December 2020:

1. Evin Lewis 30
2. Mohammad Rizwan 28
3. Martin Guptill 26
4. Saber Zakhil 19
5. Jos Buttler 18
6. Nicholas Pooran 18
7. Andre Russell 18


Somehow I feel some posters will still find a way to say Rizwan can't hit sixes or bats too slow.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Most Sixes in T20Is since December 2020:

1. Evin Lewis 30
2. Mohammad Rizwan 28
3. Martin Guptill 26
4. Saber Zakhil 19
5. Jos Buttler 18
6. Nicholas Pooran 18
7. Andre Russell 18


Somehow I feel some posters will still find a way to say Rizwan can't hit sixes or bats too slow.
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Impressive for a guy who can't hit sixes and bats really slowly
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Most Sixes in T20Is since December 2020:

1. Evin Lewis 30
2. Mohammad Rizwan 28
3. Martin Guptill 26
4. Saber Zakhil 19
5. Jos Buttler 18
6. Nicholas Pooran 18
7. Andre Russell 18


Somehow I feel some posters will still find a way to say Rizwan can't hit sixes or bats too slow.
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But but Sharjeel smashed Australian bowlers on the flattest wickets 4 years ago and Fakhar scored a doubled hundred against Zimbabwe A so they must be superior.
 
Abdurmirr said:
But but Sharjeel smashed Australian bowlers on the flattest wickets 4 years ago and Fakhar scored a doubled hundred against Zimbabwe A so they must be superior.
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Fakhar is just a excuse used by these people to distort Rizwan and Babar partnership at 1 and 2 so that Sharjeel the unfit ex con can be pushed in the side.
 
Abdurmirr said:
But but Sharjeel smashed Australian bowlers on the flattest wickets 4 years ago and Fakhar scored a doubled hundred against Zimbabwe A so they must be superior.
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I can appreciate that innings for what it was, but that was 4 years ago...he was a completely different player back then.

His fans though like to bring up his century in the PSL to tell us what a great opener he is, which is absolutely hilarious.
 
GudduBadmash said:
Impressive for a guy who can't hit sixes and bats really slowly
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Haha exactly.

I'm just wondering what his detractors will point towards this time? His average, his strike-rate or his ability to hit sixes?

I mean its August and he's already broken the record for most runs in a calendar year by a T20I batsman.
 
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RedwoodOriginal said:
Haha exactly.

I'm just wondering what his detractors will point towards this time? His average, his strike-rate or his ability to hit sixes?

I mean its August and he's already broken the record for most runs in a calendar year by a T20I batsman.
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Racism doesn't see reason or logic. They will find something to discredit the poor guy for.
 
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