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Ali Tareen blames his Multan Sultans for Pakistan’s 2024 World Cup loss​


Owner of Pakistan Super League’s (PSL) franchise Multan Sultans, Ali Khan Tareen, believes his team was responsible for Pakistan’s underwhelming performance and subsequent exit from the T20 World Cup 2024.

Appearing on a YouTube channel to discuss PSL 10 categories, Tareen reflected on PSL 9 in conversation with host Salaar, talking about Sultans’ defeat against Islamabad United. Tareen said following:

“When the match ended, I was standing at the ceremony with a member of the PCB. I told him that I was apologising in advance because, due to us, Imad Wasim was now in the World Cup squad and he would get us killed at the World Cup.”

“He looked at me and said ‘son… I know… you're absolutely right’, and that's exactly what happened. He played the World Cup because of us, and Pakistan suffered… so Multan Sultans takes the blame for it,”
 
Remember that match against India, Pakistan was still in hunt when Imam came to crease , then he played nonsense dots after dots after dots against Axar Patel and completely changed the equation of the match. Looked more like deliberate under performance , Shaheen Afridi and Naseem Shah could have done much better if they faced those deliveries instead.
 
Ali Tareen is just a reflection of the RizBar fandom here,

Take blame for Imad but don’t take blame for Rizwan practically destroying Pakistan’s T20 set up, nor the performances of Rizwan in the powerplay and especially against India.

He was immediately asked whether he also wants to take blame for Iftikhar’s performance, and his response was “Iftikhar was great”.

Just goes to show that the sugar mills fumes are effecting his braincells
 
Pakistan wouldn't have won wc 2024 anyway. 2021, 2022 and 2024 Pakistan were God awful t20 teams. The only difference is that they got very lucky in 2021 and 2022 and that luck was eventually going to run out.

India in 2021 played shockingly poor, and while I believe India is the most overrated team on the planet, they are not that bad that they'd get wrecked by NZ and Pakistan by a 9 and 10 wickets. It was an uncanny performance.

NZ and afg were horrible games. Pakistan had comfortably lost those, however asif ali who never once performed in his life managed to play a miracle innings twice in a row. Otherwise 25 of 12 was impossible for such a weak lower order.

That luck was bound to run out vs aus as horrible fielding, poor bowling g beyond the initial 4 to 5 over spells and the slow molasses batting forcing Pakistan to score 25 to 30 in the past 2 overs was bound to catch up.

Same with 2022, Babar and rizwan did jack until their game vs NZ. The batting was a horrible mess with very very lucky drs decison wins vs sa and rained off games vs sa + Nedtherlands fluke vs sa. Otherwise beating Nedtherlands and bang is no big deal and even then Pakistan struggled vs bang.

Again luck was bound to run out.

The only difference in 2024 is that luck didn't favour them, 2 winnable matches were lost only because God didn't put Pakistan on one side of the coin.

2021, 2022, are the biggest scams in t20 history and I'm glad Pakistan lost vs aus and eng because had they won, rizzu and babar fans would have lied and claimed

But but but Babar and rizwan won 2 t20 cups by avg 16 as openers in a cup.
 
I suspect Tareen has some gripe with Imad, maybe he wanted to sign Imad during his trade off last season but Imad just gave him an L.

Usually these spiteful comments come out when you have been disrespected or ignored by someone you really want. Like a jealous ex who can’t seem to get over her man finding someone else.
 
Let's hope now Ali Tareen stands with his remarks and doesn't back down like Rizwan episode
 
What about the curse of Rizwan? Who’s going to take ownership of it?
 
Hit the bullseye Mr Tareen , he knew who was the rattlesnake, Imad acted as parasite the whole WT20
 
Major said:
Recalling that day, Tareen shared what he told a Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) official. “When the match ended, I was standing at the ceremony with a member of the PCB. I told him that I was apologising in advance because, due to us, Imad Wasim was now in the World Cup squad and he would get us killed at the World Cup.”

“He looked at me and said ‘son… I know… you're absolutely right’, and that's exactly what happened. He played the World Cup because of us, and Pakistan suffered… so Multan Sultans takes the blame for it,”
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Imad must take his retirement back again and prove his haters wrong lol
 
Very amateurish statement. He just drew more heat and hatred towards his own players.
 
Rana said:
Some nepo wasteman barking a lot these days because of his Papa’s funds
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Just checked google he's owner on multan sultan so his cricket knowledge is good as preity zintas 🤣

Sounds like one of those burger bachay who pretend to know cricket follow the flow and support rizwan and babar
 
emranabbas said:
first question who is Ail Tareen?
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An entitled rich guy who owns Multan Sultans and thinks he knows more about cricket than cricketers themselves.
The crown jewel of his cricketing thinking capability is that Mohammad Rizwan is the opener of Multan Sultans whose strike rate of 125 is from VHS tapes era.
The brilliance of the man is that he didn’t retain Abbas Afridi this season.
 
Rana said:
Are you sure? You don’t mean the ones who are settled in Islamabad/Pindi but are from KPK?
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every islamabadi is an outsider. Not that you would know living overseas.
 
It’s frustrating to see the toxic environment surrounding Pakistan cricket. While I’ve never been a fan of Imad, I was particularly disappointed with how he handled the situation involving Rizwan during his time at Karachi Kings. Imad preferred Chadwick Walton, who added little value, over Rizwan, a full time keeper for Pakistan at that time. Even though I wasn’t a huge fan of Rizwan back then, I cared about the Pakistan cricket team and believed Rizwan needed that experience in a T20 league to improve his batting.

Had there been a much better player than Rizwan replacing Walton, I wouldn’t have said much. But let’s be honest, Karachi Kings would’ve still won the championship if Rizwan had played instead of Walton. Imad’s refusal to back his own teammate from Pakistan’s national team came off as selfish and short sighted. Players remembered this, and when Imad lost form and was dropped from the national team, very few supported him, except for Rizwan, ironically.

While I wasn’t in favor of Imad returning, he did earn his spot back by performing well in the PSL, and then Shaheen and others worked to reintegrate him and Amir into the team. But I knew it was always going to be a challenge to keep the team united, especially with individuals like Imad and Amir, whose past behavior had been divisive. Unfortunately, the team couldn’t come together as a cohesive unit, and the results were disastrous, we couldn’t even beat the USA.

The root of Pakistan cricket’s problems lies in this toxic culture. Players, PSL owners, and even former cricketers constantly prioritize their egos over the team. Ali Tareen’s comments in a recent interview, where he insulted Imad, are another example of how destructive this mindset is. Instead of working together to build a brighter future for Pakistan cricket, these individuals indulge in negativity and personal vendettas.

Pakistan will never become a consistent top four cricketing nation until everyone involved starts thinking about the team first. It’s time to set aside personal grudges, stop attacking players, especially those who have retired after serving the country and focus on unity and growth.
 
Caved12 said:
While I’ve never been a fan of Imad, I was particularly disappointed with how he handled the situation involving Rizwan during his time at Karachi Kings. Imad preferred Chadwick Walton, who added little value, over Rizwan, a full time keeper for Pakistan at that time.
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No one cares if Rizwan is a full time keeper or a better keeper in T20s. What matters is the position he bats and what value he adds in that position with the bat.

Imad and KK’s decision to this day was 100% correct, and it’s something that should have been upheld by Pakistan cricket.

It’s no coincidence Pakistan cricket has gone backwards, in fact terrible in T20s since Rizwan has been forced into the opener position.
 
Caved12 said:
It’s frustrating to see the toxic environment surrounding Pakistan cricket. While I’ve never been a fan of Imad, I was particularly disappointed with how he handled the situation involving Rizwan during his time at Karachi Kings. Imad preferred Chadwick Walton, who added little value, over Rizwan, a full time keeper for Pakistan at that time. Even though I wasn’t a huge fan of Rizwan back then, I cared about the Pakistan cricket team and believed Rizwan needed that experience in a T20 league to improve his batting.

Had there been a much better player than Rizwan replacing Walton, I wouldn’t have said much. But let’s be honest, Karachi Kings would’ve still won the championship if Rizwan had played instead of Walton. Imad’s refusal to back his own teammate from Pakistan’s national team came off as selfish and short sighted. Players remembered this, and when Imad lost form and was dropped from the national team, very few supported him, except for Rizwan, ironically.

While I wasn’t in favor of Imad returning, he did earn his spot back by performing well in the PSL, and then Shaheen and others worked to reintegrate him and Amir into the team. But I knew it was always going to be a challenge to keep the team united, especially with individuals like Imad and Amir, whose past behavior had been divisive. Unfortunately, the team couldn’t come together as a cohesive unit, and the results were disastrous, we couldn’t even beat the USA.

The root of Pakistan cricket’s problems lies in this toxic culture. Players, PSL owners, and even former cricketers constantly prioritize their egos over the team. Ali Tareen’s comments in a recent interview, where he insulted Imad, are another example of how destructive this mindset is. Instead of working together to build a brighter future for Pakistan cricket, these individuals indulge in negativity and personal vendettas.

Pakistan will never become a consistent top four cricketing nation until everyone involved starts thinking about the team first. It’s time to set aside personal grudges, stop attacking players, especially those who have retired after serving the country and focus on unity and growth.
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Great post and agree with everything you said there.
 
daytrader said:
It was a poor shot but can't blame him for the intent. Isn't that what you wanted, players to take risks in t20
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Well how about you take them in the powerplay? So I am to blame for this bongi by Rizwan?
 
daytrader said:
Imad batted at 5. Please don't make ignorant comments just for the sake of supporting another poster.
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What’s ignorant is putting a blind eye over Rizwan’s incompetence as a T20 opener which has cost Pakistan severely.
 
daytrader said:
Powerplay powerplay that's all you talk about. Do you turn off the televsion after 6 overs?
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Why shouldn’t I????? The guy bats in the powerplay! A lot of games are won or lost in this phase!!
 
Do I care if you were supporting Imad in the PSL? You clearly were faking it if you think Tareen’s comments are commendable.
 
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Rana said:
Do I care if you were supporting Imad in the PSL? You clearly were faking it if you think Tareen’s comments are commendable.
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What you don't understand is that Imad is a league level player, I will support him if he plays for my team. For the national team though? We need the best and he's certainly not that
 
daytrader said:
What you don't understand is that Imad is a league level player, I will support him if he plays for my team. For the national team though? We need the best and he's certainly not that
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Who’s the best? Who sat out for him?
 
daytrader said:
Imad batted at 5. Please don't make ignorant comments just for the sake of supporting another poster.
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I am not supporting nobody. I don’t agree with many of the things @Rana says. For example, I am supportive of rizwan the ODI and test player and captain. You’re the presumptive guy.

Imad Wasim was not selected for his batting. He is selected as a bowling allrounder and you can rely on his bowling. He is a no7 batter who may have been promoted on the day because his batting is trusted more than those who were selected for their batting. Not his fault. The onus was on the actual specialist batters like Rizwan, Usman, Fakhar and Babar who were picked for their batting skills but couldn’t do their job on the day. It’s intellectual dishonesty to pin the blame on no7 for chasing down any total. Have the guys to speak the truth!
 
The comments by Tareen are nonsense just like his comments about Warner, and his reasoning to hang out Malan and Hendricks whilst putting a blind eye over Rizwan.

Imad wasn’t playing for Pakistan selection in the first place. He had retired and was just playing cricket for his franchise. He wasn’t gunning for selection like he was in the previous year.

It was then the PCB’s director Usman Wahla who on the instructions of Naqvi approached him and convinced him to take back his retirement. Tareen making up things like he probably is with his dealings with the PCB staff.
 
Farabi said:
I am not supporting nobody. I don’t agree with many of the things @Rana says. For example, I am supportive of rizwan the ODI and test player and captain. You’re the presumptive guy.

Imad Wasim was not selected for his batting. He is selected as a bowling allrounder and you can rely on his bowling. He is a no7 batter who may have been promoted on the day because his batting is trusted more than those who were selected for their batting. Not his fault. The onus was on the actual specialist batters like Rizwan, Usman, Fakhar and Babar who were picked for their batting skills but couldn’t do their job on the day. It’s intellectual dishonesty to pin the blame on no7 for chasing down any total. Have the guys to speak the truth!
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@daytrader

As a neutral observer, I have to say that @Rana is one of the rare voices on this forum who truly gets it.

His core argument is spot on: Pakistan needs to break free from its conservative mindset, back genuine white-ball talent, and compete head-on with modern teams. Admittedly, the way he expresses it can come across as someone worn down and jaded by the constant "safety first" approach, but the message itself is hard to fault.

This is where I am firmly aligned because I am also sick of this “Pakistan doesn’t have talent” brigade who have used politics to destroy Pakistani cricket, which ones used to be exciting and compelling.

Until the 90s, Pakistani batting was one of the most aggressive units at the forefront of what’s possible with guys like Shahid Afridi and Nazir opening at one point. Whether you agree with that opening pair, at least it was innovative for the times. Pakistani players were globally known for their six hitting capability. And where are we now?
 
Farabi said:
I am not supporting nobody. I don’t agree with many of the things @Rana says. For example, I am supportive of rizwan the ODI and test player and captain. You’re the presumptive guy.

Imad Wasim was not selected for his batting. He is selected as a bowling allrounder and you can rely on his bowling. He is a no7 batter who may have been promoted on the day because his batting is trusted more than those who were selected for their batting. Not his fault. The onus was on the actual specialist batters like Rizwan, Usman, Fakhar and Babar who were picked for their batting skills but couldn’t do their job on the day. It’s intellectual dishonesty to pin the blame on no7 for chasing down any total. Have the guys to speak the truth!
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Yes he was promoted on that day just like Axar was. Imad failed miserably that day. Wish it was Naseem that was promoted instead
 
daytrader said:
Yes he was promoted on that day just like Axar was. Imad failed miserably that day. Wish it was Naseem that was promoted instead
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I wish Naseem opened the batting that day instead of Rizwan
 
Rana said:
Well how about you take them in the powerplay? So I am to blame for this bongi by Rizwan?
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Imad is an easy scapegoat here because toxic Pakistan supporters, particularly Babar supporters, have made him a villain of Pakistan cricket. They conveniently ignore the fact that he had a very good tournament with the ball.

It's important to put his innings into context since most fans forget the nature of those conditions. It was a substandard T20 wicket where the ball was just not coming on to the bat.

People underestimate how difficult it was when he came out to bat against a softer ball on a pitch which got slower and slower. It's very similar to how India lost to Sri Lanka in the 1996 World Cup. They were only able to score 120 in this ODI because the Kolkata pitch just got slower as the match progressed, so as a result it become unplayable for batsmen.

Yes Imad's innings wasn't good but the biggest culprit without a doubt was Rizwan for that Misbah-esque knock. He had the chance to bat in the best conditions since he was able to bat during the powerplay against the harder new ball, where there was enough pace to score boundaries.

31 runs off 44 balls with just 2 x boundaries in those circumstance was just unforgivable but you'll never hear anyone, particularly his backside consumers, say a word.
 
daytrader said:
Yes he was promoted on that day just like Axar was. Imad failed miserably that day. Wish it was Naseem that was promoted instead
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No one is saying he didn’t fail. But that doesn’t mean you pin all the blame on him, specially when it’s not even his main skill. What about the rest? It’s the job of the specialist batters to chase totals
 
Rana said:
Who’s the best? Who sat out for him?
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At that time, from the 15 that were selected, Azam Khan and Saim Ayub should've been given a go instead. For the ones that weren't selected in the squad, it could've been Agha Salman, Aamer Jamal or even Usama Mir.

Imad's strength as you've mentioned is is his bowling in the PP. If we weren't going to use that what was the point of playing him
 
topspin said:
Imad is an easy scapegoat here because toxic Pakistan supporters, particularly Babar supporters, have made him a villain of Pakistan cricket. They conveniently ignore the fact that he had a very good tournament with the ball.

It's important to put his innings into context since most fans forget the nature of those conditions. It was a substandard T20 wicket where the ball was just not coming on to the bat.

People underestimate how difficult it was when he came out to bat against a softer ball on a pitch which got slower and slower. It's very similar to how India lost to Sri Lanka in the 1996 World Cup. They were only able to score 120 in this ODI because the Kolkata pitch just got slower as the match progressed, so as a result it become unplayable for batsmen.

Yes Imad's innings wasn't good but the biggest culprit without a doubt was Rizwan for that Misbah-esque knock. He had the chance to bat in the best conditions since he was able to bat during the powerplay against the harder new ball, where there was enough pace to score boundaries.

31 runs off 44 balls with just 2 x boundaries in those circumstance was just unforgivable but you'll never hear anyone, particularly his backside consumers, say a word.
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Absolutely! Imad Wasim had a very good tour as the bowler, which is his main skill.

It was Mohammad Rizwan and Fakhar Zaman’s atrocious shots that cost us the game in the end. If you cannot even chase run a ball, then what are you there for?
 
topspin said:
Imad is an easy scapegoat here because toxic Pakistan supporters, particularly Babar supporters, have made him a villain of Pakistan cricket. They conveniently ignore the fact that he had a very good tournament with the ball.

It's important to put his innings into context since most fans forget the nature of those conditions. It was a substandard T20 wicket where the ball was just not coming on to the bat.

People underestimate how difficult it was when he came out to bat against a softer ball on a pitch which got slower and slower. It's very similar to how India lost to Sri Lanka in the 1996 World Cup. They were only able to score 120 in this ODI because the Kolkata pitch just got slower as the match progressed, so as a result it become unplayable for batsmen.

Yes Imad's innings wasn't good but the biggest culprit without a doubt was Rizwan for that Misbah-esque knock. He had the chance to bat in the best conditions since he was able to bat during the powerplay against the harder new ball, where there was enough pace to score boundaries.

31 runs off 44 balls with just 2 x boundaries in those circumstance was just unforgivable but you'll never hear anyone, particularly his backside consumers, say a word.
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Well, I already pointed out how these Rizwan fans and admins shift the blame on others besides him. A classic and fresh example of this is Daytrader now telling me that Rizwan played a risky shot and that’s why he failed, and it’s people like me who have been demanding risky shots. So now it’s people like me who are to blame for Rizwan’s brainfade and not Rizwan himself apparently!

It’s like we are criminals to demand Rizwan to go hard at every ball in the powerplay and also outside of it in a T20! We are committing a cricketing crime here by demanding a T20 opener to play the game it should be played and not like a Test match!

What’s ironic is, Rizwan’s T20 average is 47 and his Test average is 40ish. Which format should he be putting more value on his wicket, and which format is he clearly putting more value on his wicket? I would love to hear these hypocrites explain this question but as usual, they will just put a blind eye over it. Just like Ali Tareen did throughout this podcast and shifted the blame on everyone else but his own fraud T20 opener/captain!
 
daytrader said:
At that time, from the 15 that were selected, Azam Khan and Saim Ayub should've been given a go instead. For the ones that weren't selected in the squad, it could've been Agha Salman, Aamer Jamal or even Usama Mir.

Imad's strength as you've mentioned is is his bowling in the PP. If we weren't going to use that what was the point of playing him
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This becomes irrelevant because Imad Wasim took 3 wickets at an economy of just 4 across the 3 games he played. What else do you want? You’re wasting everyone’s time unless you can develop the guts to speak the truth
 
Farabi said:
Absolutely! Imad Wasim had a very good tour as the bowler, which is his main skill.

It was Mohammad Rizwan and Fakhar Zaman’s atrocious shots that cost us the game in the end. If you cannot even chase run a ball, then what are you there for?
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This thread so far is an eye opener.

The innings played by Rizwan was Misbah-esque and guess what the most vocal and toxic fans here, who only want to ridicule Imad's innings, happen to be massive Misbah/Rizwan fans.
 
topspin said:
This thread so far is an eye opener.

The innings played by Rizwan was Misbah-esque and guess what the most vocal and toxic fans here, who only want to ridicule Imad's innings, happen to be massive Misbah/Rizwan fans.
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We deserve this humiliation in T20
World Cup.

Cc: @Mamoon
 
daytrader said:
Agha Salman, Aamer Jamal or even Usama Mir
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I think you have totally lost the plot on a cricketing sense. Sorry but I can’t even be bothered to debate with you on this. You are so desperate to win this debate that you are continuously resorting to anything and everything like you did at the time when you claimed Babar is capable of hitting 6x4 in a super over if needed.


Salman Ali Agha should have played the T20i World Cup over Imad Wasim?????
 
Rana said:
Well, I already pointed out how these Rizwan fans and admins shift the blame on others besides him. A classic and fresh example of this is Daytrader now telling me that Rizwan played a risky shot and that’s why he failed, and it’s people like me who have been demanding risky shots. So now it’s people like me who are to blame for Rizwan’s brainfade and not Rizwan himself apparently!

It’s like we are criminals to demand Rizwan to go hard at every ball in the powerplay and also outside of it in a T20! We are committing a cricketing crime here by demanding a T20 opener to play the game it should be played and not like a Test match!

What’s ironic is, Rizwan’s T20 average is 47 and his Test average is 40ish. Which format should he be putting more value on his wicket, and which format is he clearly putting more value on his wicket? I would love to hear these hypocrites explain this question but as usual, they will just put a blind eye over it. Just like Ali Tareen did throughout this podcast and shifted the blame on everyone else but his own fraud T20 opener/captain!
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What you're saying is basically there's only one way to play T20 which is to go hard at all balls. What you're ignoring is the 'minefiled' aspect of the pitch that your boy @mominsaigol keeps mentioning. You're also ignoring that India lost all wickets in 19 overs. How often is a batting line up like India's bowled out in T20s? And once Rizwan lost his wicket, what did the others do? We could've been all out too. His approach was correct on that day. If he hadn't taken that unnecessary risk against Bumrah, we could've won.
 
topspin said:
This thread so far is an eye opener.

The innings played by Rizwan was Misbah-esque and guess what the most vocal and toxic fans here, who only want to ridicule Imad's innings, happen to be massive Misbah/Rizwan fans.
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Because the thread is about Imad and not Rizwan.
 
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daytrader said:
What you're saying is basically there's only one way to play T20 which is to go hard at all balls. What you're ignoring is the 'minefiled' aspect of the pitch that your boy @mominsaigol keeps mentioning. You're also ignoring that India lost all wickets in 19 overs. How often is a batting line up like India's bowled out in T20s? And once Rizwan lost his wicket, what did the others do? We could've been all out too. His approach was correct on that day. If he hadn't taken that unnecessary risk against Bumrah, we could've won.
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I don’t give two hoots if that pitch was a minefield. My openers go hard! That’s what they do in T20s! Rizwan was ‘assessing’ that day, and he was doing the same against Australia and South Africa where their openers where going at 160+ whilst he was less than a run a ball every powerplay!

He’s a serial nuisance as a T20 opener and NY was no exception. Stop making useless excuses for him and hi repetitive trash approach
 
daytrader said:
Because the thread is about Imad and not Rizwan.
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So the owner of a franchise makes extremely disrespectful and hurtful remarks singling out one individual…..whilst he can hypocritically pull a blind eye over his own players and captain??????
 
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Rana said:
So the owner of a franchise makes extremely disrespectful and hurtful remarks singling out one individual…..whilst he can hypocritically pull a blind eye over his own players and captain??????
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I'm no fan of Ali Tareen especially after how his father backstabbed IK. But here he's right on the money. Imad made us a weaker outfit
 
Rana said:
Well, I already pointed out how these Rizwan fans and admins shift the blame on others besides him. A classic and fresh example of this is Daytrader now telling me that Rizwan played a risky shot and that’s why he failed, and it’s people like me who have been demanding risky shots. So now it’s people like me who are to blame for Rizwan’s brainfade and not Rizwan himself apparently!

It’s like we are criminals to demand Rizwan to go hard at every ball in the powerplay and also outside of it in a T20! We are committing a cricketing crime here by demanding a T20 opener to play the game it should be played and not like a Test match!

What’s ironic is, Rizwan’s T20 average is 47 and his Test average is 40ish. Which format should he be putting more value on his wicket, and which format is he clearly putting more value on his wicket? I would love to hear these hypocrites explain this question but as usual, they will just put a blind eye over it. Just like Ali Tareen did throughout this podcast and shifted the blame on everyone else but his own fraud T20 opener/captain!
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Rizwan plays a Misbah-esque knock, so you'll never hear Misbah fans say a word about his innings. They are the most vocal on this thread because they want to see the status quo of Pakistan cricket to be maintained.

Mediocrity recognises mediocrity.
 
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daytrader said:
I'm no fan of Ali Tareen especially after how his father backstabbed IK. But here he's right on the money. Imad made us a weaker outfit
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Was he also right about "David Warner is not a team player"?

It's one of the worst takes I've ever come across during my 25 years of having watched cricket. It's like Misbah's take on Shaheen during the 2019 World Cup, so I guess if the shoe fits you gotta run with it.
 
daytrader said:
Because the thread is about Imad and not Rizwan. It's the stooge gang that's being toxic trying to divert the topic to Rizwan
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I know you well enough to say outright that you are being dishonest.

Even if this was a Rizwan thread you would never criticise that 31 off 44 runs because you're a cult member of the following fan clubs:
  • Misbah
  • Rizwan
  • Babar
I don't care what you believe. All I ask is for you to be honest.
 
topspin said:
Was he also right about "David Warner is not a team player"?

It's one of the worst takes I've ever come across during my 25 years of having watched cricket. It's like Misbah's take on Shaheen during the 2019 World Cup, so I guess if the shoe fits you gotta run with it.
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Don't really care about Warner, so can't comment on how he is. My interest in only in Pakistani cricket
 
topspin said:
Was he also right about "David Warner is not a team player"?

It's one of the worst takes I've ever come across during my 25 years of having watched cricket. It's like Misbah's take on Shaheen during the 2019 World Cup, so I guess if the shoe fits you gotta run with it.
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He wants his overseas players to embrace the team culture and environment. What does he want Warner to do? Sit with them and be forced to eat Barbecues and play table tennis with Rizwan and Iftikhar? That’s the culture he wants him to embrace? If Warner doesn’t do it (as it’s all pretty cringe), he’s not a team man according to this goof Tareen.
 
daytrader said:
Don't really care about Warner, so can't comment on how he is. My interest in only in Pakistani cricket
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Again be honest for once in your life.

What you "really care about" is doing everything you can to feed your anti-Imad agenda.
 
topspin said:
Again be honest for once in your life.

What you "really care about" is doing everything you can to feed your anti-Imad agenda.
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It's not an anti Imad agenda. I support Imad for ISLU and have supported him the past for the national team. It's when he became toxic that he lost a fan.

That is the whole truth and can be verified with my posting history
 
topspin said:
I know you well enough to say outright that you are being dishonest.

Even if this was a Rizwan thread you would never criticise that 31 off 44 runs because you're a cult member of the following fan clubs:
  • Misbah
  • Rizwan
  • Babar
I don't care what you believe. All I ask is for you to be honest.
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Ok so i'm not being honest let's go along with that.

But can you in all honesty tell me that we were not in a winning position even after Rizwan's below par innings?
 
topspin said:
Was he also right about "David Warner is not a team player"?

It's one of the worst takes I've ever come across during my 25 years of having watched cricket. It's like Misbah's take on Shaheen during the 2019 World Cup, so I guess if the shoe fits you gotta run with it.
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The other thing you may need to understand with Warner is (I’m pretty sure I’ve written this up somewhere else), It’s not about Tareen deciding if Warner fits in, it’s Warner deciding where he will want to be. I could already sense it that the MS team culture is too cringe, fruit ball or ‘booty’ for a guy like Warner. He will probably and most likely want to end up either at QG with Watson or IU with Munro and Hesson. Qalandars are alright too. He might not really mind PZ with Sammy around.
 
The other thing I suspect with Tareen having reservations about Warner is that he will bluntly tell a guy like Rizwan to pull his socks up and not make the team have to do all the heavy lifting because of his own selfish decision to bat for himself. Their team meetings afterwards when Rizwan has scored 30 off 25 and everyone else is trying to go at 180+ are getting the blame….Warner I’m sure will blast Rizwan. I’m 100% sure of it. He will do it.
 
daytrader said:
Ok so i'm not being honest let's go along with that.

But can you in all honesty tell me that we were not in a winning position even after Rizwan's below par innings?
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You might be shocked to hear this but no they weren't.

As I've mentioned in post 57, it was much harder to bat in the second half of the innings. The ball got softer and the pitch was getting slower and slower as the match progressed.

When Rizwan got out, Pakistan needed 40 runs in 5.5 overs. At face value (without seeing the playing conditions) you'd think it's cake walk but it's actually a nightmare. If you don't believe me, check the scorecard and you'll find India lost 7 wickets for 30 runs in the last 8.4 overs. Batting in the last 10 overs in that contest was horrible and I really do empathise with everyone who had to come out to bat at this stage of this innings, except for Ifti. The guy missed 3-4 full tosses. The two biggest culprits in that chase were Rizwan and him.

Pakistan needed to score at least 70 (ideally 80) in the first 10 overs if they were going to seal the win.

Did you watch the match live?
 
daytrader said:
Don't really care about Warner, so can't comment on how he is. My interest in only in Pakistani cricket
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No your interest is only to support Tareen’s vile comments about Imad because you hate Imad as he has exposed your precious Babar and Rizwan as T20 useless players!
 
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Rana said:
The other thing you may need to understand with Warner is (I’m pretty sure I’ve written this up somewhere else), It’s not about Tareen deciding if Warner fits in, it’s Warner deciding where he will want to be. I could already sense it that the MS team culture is too cringe, fruit ball or ‘booty’ for a guy like Warner. He will probably and most likely want to end up either at QG with Watson or IU with Munro and Hesson. Qalandars are alright too. He might not really mind PZ with Sammy around.
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Yes, I wouldn't be surprised if he got rejected by Warner so he's now trying to throw shade at him because his ego got hurt. Typical freshy thing to do, just like the OP with this thread :klopp
 
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