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This place is gone to the Dogs , It looks more like a Neutral or Indian forum than a Pakistani one where Indians come for their personal chest thumping.
For all the big talks about India this and India that , Indians dont even have a single semi decent Cricket form on the web.

95% threads about India are negative, you are one of the two poster who are very interested in creating these threads. There are two options ask the mods to ban all Indians or stop creating threads about every day.
 
This is the kind of fanboyism I was talking about. Any opinion which is even slightly critical is met with aggression from the fan boys. Disturbing trend in a democracy. MODIfication of India just like Zia-fication of Pakistan. I hope I am proven wrong.

NO it is not fanboyism. It is a very practical advice.
 
This. Its not easy for a PM to do things that Modi is doing without a vision. We all saw what Manmohan Singh did for 10 years. Sitting in Parliament and doing the blame game to BJP. Thats all he did for a decade. What Modi is doing is never done by any Prime minister before. So Kudos to him. Probably will go down as the greatest leader ever from India.

What MMS did .. transformed India.. his lasting legacy is the Indo-US nuclear deal.... which was a diplomatic coup of sorts. not saying Modi is doing something wrong.
Modi is better at marketing too!!
 
What MMS did .. transformed India.. his lasting legacy is the Indo-US nuclear deal.... which was a diplomatic coup of sorts. not saying Modi is doing something wrong.
Modi is better at marketing too!!

Can you tell me what India gained from the nuclear deal?
 
NO it is not fanboyism. It is a very practical advice.

Did the people who hate Manmohan Singh, leave India during his 10 year tenure? I know it is a great time to be a Modi fan, but I wonder if they had packed their bags and moved elsewhere during the last 10 years.
 
This is the kind of fanboyism I was talking about. Any opinion which is even slightly critical is met with aggression from the fan boys. Disturbing trend in a democracy. MODIfication of India just like Zia-fication of Pakistan. I hope I am proven wrong.

Wow ... use big word-ification and sound smart!!

Whatare the similarities between Zia and Modi regimes?
 
Wow ... use big word-ification and sound smart!!

Whatare the similarities between Zia and Modi regimes?

It has been only one year for Modi, so only time will tell the similarities.

But so far it is not hard to miss the personality cult of these leaders. The chant of Mard-e-momin and Modi Modi are meant to lionize these leaders by their fans.

What has Modi done to get the so called rockstar treatment? What is it among the expats who throng to his speeches while chanting his name, as if he is a messiah. And online mob lynching of anyone who dares to criticize Modi. The room for healthy debate is being narrowed, and either you are with us or against us is the mentality of these fans. Disturbing trends for the future of India.
 
I have seen a lot f hype and praise of Modi amongst Indians here on PP and also other social media and amongst expats. He is certainly the most celebrated Indian pm I've seen. Manmohan singh didn't have the same appeal or popularity. What has Modis Impact been economically socially. Has Indian society improved under Modis tenure. Or is it just a lot of hot smoke being blown.


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You can always pack up and go back to bangladesh if you are not happy you know.

People are allowed to criticise the PM India is a democracy after all. These sort of childish responses don't help anyone


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I have seen a lot f hype and praise of Modi amongst Indians here on PP and also other social media and amongst expats. He is certainly the most celebrated Indian pm I've seen. Manmohan singh didn't have the same appeal or popularity. What has Modis Impact been economically socially. Has Indian society improved under Modis tenure. Or is it just a lot of hot smoke being blown.


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No results yet. People are hopeful though as the direction is right.
 
No results yet. People are hopeful though as the direction is right.

What was the main premise of Modis election. Was it just his popularity or does he have a viable economic and social development plan.


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What was the main premise of Modis election. Was it just his popularity or does he have a viable economic and social development plan.


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The popularity was due to his success in Gujarat's economic development. He came in power due to a mix of Hinduism/Congress corruption also, but the focal point of votes was for the job creation ability.

People are appreciating his efforts in bringing foreign investment/make-in-India/save-girl-child/clean-India campaigns. Results aren't visible as yet.

I think the number of foreign trips he has made in last 1.5 years must be highest of any Indian PM. Most of the Indians view this positively, as he is trying hard.
 
The popularity was due to his success in Gujarat's economic development. He came in power due to a mix of Hinduism/Congress corruption also, but the focal point of votes was for the job creation ability.

People are appreciating his efforts in bringing foreign investment/make-in-India/save-girl-child/clean-India campaigns. Results aren't visible as yet.

I think the number of foreign trips he has made in last 1.5 years must be highest of any Indian PM. Most of the Indians view this positively, as he is trying hard.

How is the job market in India today. Is there still a mass brain drain going on. Or are more gifted Indians staying in India now.


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How is the job market in India today. Is there still a mass brain drain going on. Or are more gifted Indians staying in India now.


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I decided to move back to India, so that answers your question about gifted Indians. :)

On a serious note, India offers a much better lifestyle when we compare it to US/UK now, than what it used to do, maybe in the '90s or early noughties. I will restrict my post to Software industry as I know a bit or byte about it.

A lot of US software biggies have opened their R&D centres in India, and gradually are trusting these centres to move some of their quality work here. The scenario that has changed over the years can be seen from the example that, we have customers also opening their centres in India, so now the customer interaction/communication, when it happens, takes place entirely in their respective Indian centres, which was not the case a few years ago.

Most of the core work still happens in US, but gradually the R&D centres in India are making their presence felt, and work is moving to India.

This in turn, means good salaries without going to US, and looking at PPP, the relatively low cost of living in India means you can have a pretty comfortable life here.

Downside remains though.

1. Law and order is still poor.
2. Value of life is not high.
3. Infrastructure is bad, and thus traffic is horrible.
 
He should have been sent to Kashmir to teach the beghairat brigade of separatists a lesson.
Kps gill, would have been a nightmare for those jihadi's, should have sent him along with punjab police, would have been absolute fun.
 
How is the job market in India today. Is there still a mass brain drain going on. Or are more gifted Indians staying in India now.


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Three years back when I moved to Bangalore I barely had 2-3 of my good friends left in the city , but so much seems to have changed . A lot more guys who have moved back for good , few of them already setup their own companies , wound up and started again , raised capital in millions .I mean a lot of things are possible in India these days , which was unthinkable 10 years back .

I have no doubts we will have our Googles and facebooks in may be 15 years time .
 
There has to be a drastic improvement of the Pakistani image in the west. The US is helping India get armed to the hilt and soon we will lose our only advantage- our military strength.

Umm when did Pakistan have any kind of military advantage over India ?
I think the article means that before Pakistans military strength kept it at a stalemate. Yes india might have been stronger in terms of manpower and weaponry. But Pakistans military has enough about it to keep the situation at a deadlock. But with India advancing rapidly in military and technology. Increased military spending. More high tech weaponry. Its leaving Pakistan behind. In a way that it can establish clear dominance over Pakistan militarily too.

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I am personally impressed with many things about Modi:


Interest in Technology

His level of interest and vision of technology is impressive. Considering he is uneducated. The way he explain the fisherman app eco system and his keen interest means, he is not just about vision but focus on execution as well. He understands big data and what it can do, concepts of direct democracy and how technology infrastructure can help. I don't think many western leaders take that much interest in tech and its implementation in society. This can only be good for India, if they develop a deep rooted tech culture in society.

Financially not Corrupt

He does not seems to be corrupt guy (from finance stand point of view). He is still not that rich nor motivated to become a business man nor does anybody in his family. Is that true or my reading is wrong? - That is huge for any leader. I wish we have leaders like him.

Only corruption on his end that I know is his religious extremism. Which is unfortunate but its more of a ideological corruption not really Financial.

Motivated Leader

He looks like a motivated leader, a touch like Steve Jobs who was never satisfy or dwell on past success, but works with same energy on next big thing(obvious he is a politician, he will brag about his achievements, but his vision and focus on future is commendable). The way he interacts and learn about technology on everyday basis is impressive. He is even trying to understand the code, getting daily day feed, not just briefing from sectary, direct democracy (30M FB and 15M tweet followers), he wants to interact with masses directly for services and feedback, sort of direct democracy on steroids. He is also pitting his bureaucracy against tech giants, that is smart, he wants them to compete with Tech giants in ideas and execution or get out of the way. He is building direct and personal relationship with tech leaders, that is again something very few leaders are doing it. He is giving tech industry India as a social lab, which sounds creepy but it can put India leg up than rest of the world.

Lets see how the execution phase works, but vision phase is not bad at all!!
 
I think the article means that before Pakistans military strength kept it at a stalemate. Yes india might have been stronger in terms of manpower and weaponry. But Pakistans military has enough about it to keep the situation at a deadlock. But with India advancing rapidly in military and technology. Increased military spending. More high tech weaponry. Its leaving Pakistan behind. In a way that it can establish clear dominance over Pakistan militarily too.

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Whatever the military strength, even having 1 nuke ensures a stalemate.
 
Whatever the military strength, even having 1 nuke ensures a stalemate.
Yeah exactly in a war India would win mosr likely. However it isnt worth the huge amount of damage and loss of Indian Lives one nuke could do. Nukes are a curse on humanity. But in this case they keep a stalemate. As long as they are kept out of the hands of nutjobs amd extremists.

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I am personally impressed with many things about Modi:


Interest in Technology

His level of interest and vision of technology is impressive. Considering he is uneducated. The way he explain the fisherman app eco system and his keen interest means, he is not just about vision but focus on execution as well. He understands big data and what it can do, concepts of direct democracy and how technology infrastructure can help. I don't think many western leaders take that much interest in tech and its implementation in society. This can only be good for India, if they develop a deep rooted tech culture in society.

Financially not Corrupt

He does not seems to be corrupt guy (from finance stand point of view). He is still not that rich nor motivated to become a business man nor does anybody in his family. Is that true or my reading is wrong? - That is huge for any leader. I wish we have leaders like him.

Only corruption on his end that I know is his religious extremism. Which is unfortunate but its more of a ideological corruption not really Financial.

Motivated Leader

He looks like a motivated leader, a touch like Steve Jobs who was never satisfy or dwell on past success, but works with same energy on next big thing(obvious he is a politician, he will brag about his achievements, but his vision and focus on future is commendable). The way he interacts and learn about technology on everyday basis is impressive. He is even trying to understand the code, getting daily day feed, not just briefing from sectary, direct democracy (30M FB and 15M tweet followers), he wants to interact with masses directly for services and feedback, sort of direct democracy on steroids. He is also pitting his bureaucracy against tech giants, that is smart, he wants them to compete with Tech giants in ideas and execution or get out of the way. He is building direct and personal relationship with tech leaders, that is again something very few leaders are doing it. He is giving tech industry India as a social lab, which sounds creepy but it can put India leg up than rest of the world.

Lets see how the execution phase works, but vision phase is not bad at all!!


I was first shocked to see this comment from a Pakistani but then i saw your location and felt less shocked. American Pakistanis are usually among the most sensible Pakistanis.
 
Yeah exactly in a war India would win mosr likely. However it isnt worth the huge amount of damage and loss of Indian Lives one nuke could do. Nukes are a curse on humanity. But in this case they keep a stalemate. As long as they are kept out of the hands of nutjobs amd extremists.

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Indeed. I have heard nut jobs on either side comment believing they will win the war due to nukes
- Lets nuke India. Even if India nukes us, considering how big they are, we will kill more of them than they will kill ours.
- Lets nuke Pakistan. Even if they get most of our cities, we are way too big and will still survive

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NS meeting with Bill gates was for Polio which we have cleared with Gates Foundation help already.And the second post about measuring is apt for you as well as this was a thread on Modi.
Imagine if there was a thread criticizing India and then someone pasted Pakistan's problem in it it would be wrong.

1. NS and Bill gates didnt met only for polio but for other talks as well.

http://nation.com.pk/business/29-Apr-2015/first-tech-city-to-be-set-up-at-islamabad

2. The post about "measuring" for trolling purpose. becoz every thread on PP, ends with Indo-Pak Thread. thn why not this one ..... :yk

So, Chillax bro.
 
I was first shocked to see this comment from a Pakistani but then i saw your location and felt less shocked. American Pakistanis are usually among the most sensible Pakistanis.

There is bit of a jealous between Indians and Pakistanis. I am bit jealous why we don't have such leaders. If Modi stays in power for decade or so, India could be model for all future nations. There is a big task ahead of him and rest of the nation, execution is far from easy, but a motivated and committed leader (who is not financially corrupt) definitely helps. He is betting on right horses for future, which is important for visionary leader!!
 
A friend whom I visited 1 month ago in San Jose sent me a picture of him with Narendra Modi. He mentioned that Modi was extremely polite and had no inhibitions in talking to common people.
 
As far as India goes. Modi is the leader that can propel them to even greater heights. Focusing on tech is the smart way to go. Digital India is a great initiative. Of course social inequality and infrastructure also needs to be improved but that will happen.

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Indians launch website against Modi

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NEW YORK: A large group of Indians living abroad under the banner Alliance for Justice and Accountability (AJA) created a website against Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and organized a protest during his visit to Silicon Valley.

Titled as www.Modifail.com, the website describes in detail ‘failures’ of the Modi government in various sectors of India.

http://arynews.tv/en/indians-launch-website-against-modi/
 
Modi in Silicon Valley: Anti-Modi hoardings greet Indian prime minister in San Jose

Massive digital hoardings have come up in San Jose, California ahead of the much anticipated grand reception at SAP Center organised for Prime Minister Narendra Modi, accusing him of implementing "regressive" policies in India that hamper "freedoms and human rights" of Indian communities.

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http://www.ibtimes.co.in/modi-silicon-valley-anti-modi-hoardings-greet-indian-prime-minister-san-jose-648237
 
Modi is stealing the world.


The leader that we all wishes for. He may be the Prime Minister of India but he belongs to everyone.
 
Modi is stealing the world.


The leader that we all wishes for. He may be the Prime Minister of India but he belongs to everyone.

Is his full name Narendra Modi? There is something missing in his name. What about Narendra Singh Modi? Though he is not sikh.

And you can keep him for free, honestly.
 
Modi is doing a wonderful job so far however if I have one jibe at him it would be; WHY THE HELL ISNT HE DOING ENOUGH TO COMPLETELY WIPE OUT THAT FRAUD CONGRESS AND CATHOLIC AMMAYI SONIA FOR GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I never liked Modi. I think he is a very good actor and a brilliant orator and a charismatic personality. I hate BJP as well as congress( which really disillusioned me this time around). Still i never voted for BJP or modi. Being minority myself i am not comfortable with BJP in power. So far modi has not done anything wrong. He really connects with ordinary people. He seems to work hard. I am still on bench regarding modi. I think only 5 years later we can tell if modi is as good as he was expected to be. I just wish he would reign those chaddiwalas who bullying everyone over cow and other things. If these elements are controlled we can have a productive 5 years
 
I never liked Modi. I think he is a very good actor and a brilliant orator and a charismatic personality. I hate BJP as well as congress( which really disillusioned me this time around). Still i never voted for BJP or modi. Being minority myself i am not comfortable with BJP in power. So far modi has not done anything wrong. He really connects with ordinary people. He seems to work hard. I am still on bench regarding modi. I think only 5 years later we can tell if modi is as good as he was expected to be. I just wish he would reign those chaddiwalas who bullying everyone over cow and other things. If these elements are controlled we can have a productive 5 years

You are right......but if you dnt mind to tell can i ask you about your minority status....because your name suggest you belong to majority
 
You are right......but if you dnt mind to tell can i ask you about your minority status....because your name suggest you belong to majority

Nisha Dsouza!!! Christians can have hindu names too you know.
 
Never a good idea to give your full name. So you have a goan descent?

I am not worried about that. I am not really active on social media. No facebook no twitter account. yes Both sets of my grandparents are goan but both my mom and dad were born and bought up in mumbai.
 
I am not worried about that. I am not really active on social media. No facebook no twitter account. yes Both sets of my grandparents are goan but both my mom and dad were born and bought up in mumbai.

Telugu Industry had some really good looking Goan actresses. Genelia D'Souza and Ileana D'Cruz.

It is common for Christians in India to have Hindu first name. An old Goan lady I know has the name Beena David Soans.
 
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Telugu Industry had some really good looking Goan actresses. Genelia D'Souza and Ileana D'Cruz.

It is common for Christians in India to have Hindu first name. An old Goan lady I know has the name Beena David Soans.

Ileana is not good looking just unnecessary hyped. Also genelia is kannada/tulu/mangalorean not goan. But born bought up in mumbai. We konkani speaking people are found in goa/maharashtra/karnataka.
 
Ileana is not good looking just unnecessary hyped. Also genelia is kannada/tulu/mangalorean not goan. But born bought up in mumbai. We konkani speaking people are found in goa/maharashtra/karnataka.

Ileana was good looking until a few years ago. Youth went crazy for her. Then Bollywood happened to her and she went to size zero and started looking like a skeleton.

Sorry about Genelia. I assume anyone with a name that starts with D'suza or D'costa as Goans.
 
Ileana was good looking until a few years ago. Youth went crazy for her. Then Bollywood happened to her and she went to size zero and started looking like a skeleton.

Sorry about Genelia. I assume anyone with a name that starts with D'suza or D'costa as Goans.

Yeah i guess you are right. Her face looks horrible now. Like some pencil point!
 
http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/after-nayantara-sahgal-poet-ashok-vajpeyi-returns-award-takes-on-pm-1229198


NEW DELHI: After writer Nayantara Sahgal returned her Sahitya Akademi award protesting against what she called a "vicious assault" on India's diversity and debate, poet Ashok Vajpeyi has also given up the prestigious literary honour.

"It is high time that writers take a stand," Mr Vajpeyi, a former chairperson of the Lalit **** Akademi, said.

Nayantara Sahgal, the 88-year-old niece of India's first prime minister Jawaharlal Nehru, recorded her protest against the government in a scathing statement titled "Unmaking of India". In it, she refers to the recent mob killing of a Muslim man over rumours that he had eaten beef, and also the killings of rationalists MM Kalburgi, Narendra Dabholkar and Govind Pansare.

Earlier, Hindi writer Uday Prakash had returned the award.

Ashok Vajpeyi said it was rare for a senior English writer like Nayantara Sahgal to take such a strong stand, and it needed support from the writing community.

"The Prime Minister (Narendra Modi) keeps quiet. He is an eloquent Prime Minister who addresses lakhs of people, but here writers are being murdered, innocent people are being killed, his ministers are making objectionable statements...Why doesn't he shut them up?" he told NDTV.

"Why doesn't he tell the nation and the writing and creating community that the pluralism of this community will be defended at every cost? Although the government makes announcements that this would not be tolerated, that would not be tolerated ...but tolerance is there. How is it that all this has erupted now?"

Mr Vajpeyi also expressed disappointed at the silence of Sahitya Akademi, the national academy of letters comprising writers, and said it "failed to rise to the occasion and respect its autonomy."

Nayantara Sahgal had also questioned PM Modi's silence.

"He has uttered no word of condemnation at all at these incidents. The whole country wishes the Prime Minister to make a statement because the situation is getting more and more serious," Ms Sahgal said.

"Under Modi we are going backwards, regressing, narrowing down to Hindutva...there is rising intolerance and lots of Indians are living in fear," she commented.
 
http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/after-nayantara-sahgal-poet-ashok-vajpeyi-returns-award-takes-on-pm-1229198


NEW DELHI: After writer Nayantara Sahgal returned her Sahitya Akademi award protesting against what she called a "vicious assault" on India's diversity and debate, poet Ashok Vajpeyi has also given up the prestigious literary honour.

"It is high time that writers take a stand," Mr Vajpeyi, a former chairperson of the Lalit **** Akademi, said.

Nayantara Sahgal, the 88-year-old niece of India's first prime minister Jawaharlal Nehru, recorded her protest against the government in a scathing statement titled "Unmaking of India". In it, she refers to the recent mob killing of a Muslim man over rumours that he had eaten beef, and also the killings of rationalists MM Kalburgi, Narendra Dabholkar and Govind Pansare.

Earlier, Hindi writer Uday Prakash had returned the award.

Ashok Vajpeyi said it was rare for a senior English writer like Nayantara Sahgal to take such a strong stand, and it needed support from the writing community.

"The Prime Minister (Narendra Modi) keeps quiet. He is an eloquent Prime Minister who addresses lakhs of people, but here writers are being murdered, innocent people are being killed, his ministers are making objectionable statements...Why doesn't he shut them up?" he told NDTV.

"Why doesn't he tell the nation and the writing and creating community that the pluralism of this community will be defended at every cost? Although the government makes announcements that this would not be tolerated, that would not be tolerated ...but tolerance is there. How is it that all this has erupted now?"

Mr Vajpeyi also expressed disappointed at the silence of Sahitya Akademi, the national academy of letters comprising writers, and said it "failed to rise to the occasion and respect its autonomy."

Nayantara Sahgal had also questioned PM Modi's silence.

"He has uttered no word of condemnation at all at these incidents. The whole country wishes the Prime Minister to make a statement because the situation is getting more and more serious," Ms Sahgal said.

"Under Modi we are going backwards, regressing, narrowing down to Hindutva...there is rising intolerance and lots of Indians are living in fear," she commented.

I find these pseudo seculars pretty disgusting. Did they return their awards when the acts of minority appeasements were being carried out by the state ? No.
Many Hindus have died in such incidents in the last 5 years, they didn't ask Mr. Modi to make a statement against Muslim rioters ? They didn't return any of their awards then, why ?

Disgusting people.
 
It's a random question and probably people may not be able to answer off the top off their heads.

How many state governments are BJP (and allies) compared to 3 years ago. And does sometime politics in India work such a way that a state government can be independent of both Congress and BJP?
 
I find these pseudo seculars pretty disgusting. Did they return their awards when the acts of minority appeasements were being carried out by the state ? No.
Many Hindus have died in such incidents in the last 5 years, they didn't ask Mr. Modi to make a statement against Muslim rioters ? They didn't return any of their awards then, why ?

Disgusting people.

Doesn't make sense that if you were silent at that time, so you can't speak now. One must speak out whenever one's conscience wakes up. And if her's is waking up now, all power to her.
 
Doesn't make sense that if you were silent at that time, so you can't speak now. One must speak out whenever one's conscience wakes up. And if her's is waking up now, all power to her.

Nothing wrong with that, but when your conscience wakes up at arbitrary intervals, it makes me question them.

Hindus have been dying even now. I don't see any writer asking Modi to make a statement against Muslim rioters.

Do they accept that we didn't question then and we were wrong, but we are questioning now ?
 
It's a random question and probably people may not be able to answer off the top off their heads.

How many state governments are BJP (and allies) compared to 3 years ago. And does sometime politics in India work such a way that a state government can be independent of both Congress and BJP?

In last 3 years, at least 6 or 7 state elections were won by BJP, and huge credit to Modi for that.

State elections are independent of Cong and BJP. UP has SP govt. Tamilnadu has AIADMK for example.
 
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Nothing wrong with that, but when your conscience wakes up at arbitrary intervals, it makes me question them.

Hindus have been dying even now. I don't see any writer asking Modi to make a statement against Muslim rioters.

Do they accept that we didn't question then and we were wrong, but we are questioning now ?

If any other did not write to Modi for Hindus, doesn't mean she has no right to speak out. She is responsible for only her conscience, not what others should do.

The invisible hand of adam smith works even in moral outrage. It is impractical for everyone to support every other cause. Let people support the cause they feel strongly for.
 
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