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New Zealand (131/1) inflict an embarrassing 9-wicket win over Pakistan (130/7) in the Tri-series

jnaveen1980 said:
Kane is gone. Not sure why he is still playing T20. Just for captaincy?
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Same reason the likes of Kohli, Babar, Smith still keep playing T20; reputation precedes merit (at least in Babar's defense, the bare cupboard means he has to play) in their cases.
 
Shambolic batting but on the bowlers- Pakistan desperately need Shaheen, Haris and Naseem at the WC. Dahani and Wasim are not good enough.
 
Kane Williamson | New Zealand captain: An improvement again from the last game, nice to adjust to the conditions, clinical and we used the big side. We thought it might suit it, we were limited to the seam bowling as we had to look after the others. It’s great that there’s a number of players in different roles, on this surface we want to address and we did that pretty well. On that sort of a wicket, it’s nice to be disciplined with your line and length and not to be creative. They had a good powerplay – 42 was a good score on that and our spinners pulled it back. He’s been hitting them well, that wicket might be 10 days old but it was a great contribution. Cricket this time of the year is not very common and to be fair the wickets have produced some good cricket. That’s what we want to do regardless of the format – look forward to the next match.

Babar Azam | Pakistan captain: First innings was a little bit slow, our batting was not up to the mark. Lot of things to discuss and a day off tomorrow, we will ensure we don’t do the mistakes in the next game. We had a bad day, if we had got 160 would have been good but 130 is easy for the Black Caps.
 
daytrader said:
Kane Williamson | New Zealand captain: An improvement again from the last game, nice to adjust to the conditions, clinical and we used the big side. We thought it might suit it, we were limited to the seam bowling as we had to look after the others. It’s great that there’s a number of players in different roles, on this surface we want to address and we did that pretty well. On that sort of a wicket, it’s nice to be disciplined with your line and length and not to be creative. They had a good powerplay – 42 was a good score on that and our spinners pulled it back. He’s been hitting them well, that wicket might be 10 days old but it was a great contribution. Cricket this time of the year is not very common and to be fair the wickets have produced some good cricket. That’s what we want to do regardless of the format – look forward to the next match.

Babar Azam | Pakistan captain: First innings was a little bit slow, our batting was not up to the mark. Lot of things to discuss and a day off tomorrow, we will ensure we don’t do the mistakes in the next game. We had a bad day, if we had got 160 would have been good but 130 is easy for the Black Caps.
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Off course.

160 on every pitch.

Even chasing 200, they target 160 to end up 40 runs short.
 
Very embarrassing loss, Pathetic batting, You can score 8 or 9 by hitting in gaps instead of going for glory shots.
 
Pakistan produced a cold performance on a chilly Tuesday evening in Christchurch as New Zealand won the repeat T20I tri-series match by nine wickets.

As the temperature dropped to 13 degrees centigrade at the Hagley Oval, Pakistan, who had defeated New Zealand in the earlier fixture by six wickets, managed only 130 for seven with 15 fours after electing to bat first. New Zealand, familiar with the conditions, faced no hurdles in racing to victory in 16.1 overs after Finn Allen and Devon Conway put on 117 runs for the first wicket in 13.3 overs.

Allen was dismissed after scoring 62 from 42 balls with a four and six sixes, while Conway returned unbeaten on 49 with five fours from 46 balls. Kane Williamson was the other not out batter with nine from as many deliveries.

Earlier, Pakistan failed to get the impetus into their innings and managed only 130 for seven. The highest partnership of the innings was for the sixth wicket when Iftikhar Ahmed and Asif Ali put on 51 runs. Iftikhar’s run-a-ball 27 included three fours, while Asif Ali also struck three fours in a 20-ball 25 not out.

Babar Azam (21) and Mohammad Rizwan (16) had provided a 30-run first wicket start in 4.2 overs, but Pakistan slipped to 77 for five in 13.2 overs. Shan Masood scored 14, Shadab Khan managed eight and Haider Ali contributed eight.

For New Zealand, off-spinner Michael Bracewell exploited the conditions brilliantly on the slow pitch to finish with figures of 4-0-11-2. He was later adjudged player of the match. Left-arm spinner Mitchell Santner snapped up two wickets for 27 runs, while fast bowler Tim Southee claimed two wickets for 31 runs.

Pakistan and New Zealand have now played three matches each and won two apiece. Bangladesh are winless after two games. Bangladesh will take on New Zealand in a must-win match on Wednesday, before taking on Pakistan on Thursday.

The final between the top-two sides will be played on Friday.

Scores in brief:

New Zealand beat Pakistan by nine wickets

Pakistan 130-7, 20 overs (Iftikhar Ahmed 27, Asif Ali 25 not out, Babar Azam 21, Mohammad Rizwan 16; Michael Bracewell 2-11, Mitchell Santner 2-27, Tim Southee 2-31)

New Zealand 131-1, 16.1 overs (Finn Allen 62, Devon Conway 49 not out)

Player of the match – Michael Bracewell (New Zealand)

Pakistan’s next match – vs Bangladesh, Thursday

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Rana said:
What about our leading six hitter/power hitter opener?
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they got out within first 5 overs yet the power hitters failed to connect even 1 in 15 overs.
We have 2 wins off three and you can check the main contributor with bat both wins the one game they fail we don't even get 7 RPO
 
Xoib said:
they got out within first 5 overs yet the power hitters failed to connect even 1 in 15 overs.
We have 2 wins off three and you can check the main contributor with bat both wins the one game they fail we don't even get 7 RPO
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Uh oh

Win the toss

Bat first

Lay a poor foundation

Blame middle order

Rinse

Repeat
 
Rana said:
Uh oh

Win the toss

Bat first

Lay a poor foundation

Blame middle order

Rinse

Repeat
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Good foundation pay tumhari middle order kya ukhaar laitee hai 85/0 11 overs final score 158, these are the norms even with a platform
 
Xoib said:
Good foundation pay tumhari middle order kya ukhaar laitee hai 85/0 11 overs final score 158, these are the norms even with a platform
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Pakistan scored its highest score in the England series batting first in the 1 match Rizwan didn’t play

Let that sink in.
 
Rana said:
Pakistan scored its highest score in the England series batting first in the 1 match Rizwan didn’t play

Let that sink in.
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That's because the other culprit Babar scored 60% of those runs tell me middle order contributions in that game.
Tell me Pakistan output when both fail?
 
Rana said:
Pakistan scored its highest score in the England series batting first in the 1 match Rizwan didn’t play

Let that sink in.
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Yeah and the other opener Babar Azam scored 87 not out in that match, while the middle order failed again despite an odd decent innings 31 runs from Iftikhar.


The so called highest score you're talking about batting first from Pakistan was 169 runs which England chased in 14.3 overs.
 
blame blame ...the openers.

Baqi ke log apni dukaan garm kerne aye hai kya?...ya cholay khanay?
 
Ami said:
blame blame ...the openers.

Baqi ke log apni dukaan garm kerne aye hai kya?...ya cholay khanay?
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If the openers were ‘specialist openers’ and not middle order batsmen adjusted as openers….they wouldn’t be blamed
 
MSaad1237 said:
Yeah and the other opener Babar Azam scored 87 not out in that match, while the middle order failed again despite an odd decent innings 31 runs from Iftikhar.


The so called highest score you're talking about batting first from Pakistan was 169 runs which England chased in 14.3 overs.
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That’s the score the captain wanted 170

He said that at the toss

He was convinced his side would defend those runs in 20 overs like they did two matches in a row before
 
Scrap the whole team and get the youngsters in, at least they would show more heart and desire than this shower of s^&$.
 
daytrader said:
Kane Williamson | New Zealand captain: An improvement again from the last game, nice to adjust to the conditions, clinical and we used the big side. We thought it might suit it, we were limited to the seam bowling as we had to look after the others. It’s great that there’s a number of players in different roles, on this surface we want to address and we did that pretty well. On that sort of a wicket, it’s nice to be disciplined with your line and length and not to be creative. They had a good powerplay – 42 was a good score on that and our spinners pulled it back. He’s been hitting them well, that wicket might be 10 days old but it was a great contribution. Cricket this time of the year is not very common and to be fair the wickets have produced some good cricket. That’s what we want to do regardless of the format – look forward to the next match.

Babar Azam | Pakistan captain: First innings was a little bit slow, our batting was not up to the mark. Lot of things to discuss and a day off tomorrow, we will ensure we don’t do the mistakes in the next game. We had a bad day, if we had got 160 would have been good but 130 is easy for the Black Caps.
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Pakistan simply plays with 160 as target most the times. I think it's better to not have such targets all the time. If pitch is good then bad faster and if it's hard then bat slower to get to 160. Always thinking about 160 is going to cause trouble when oppositions teams play full strengths in tournaments. It's hard to defend such totals even if you bowl well.
 
This was a terrible performance. Openers batting with under 100 SR in t20 is a no-no. It seems like after Babar and Rizwan goes,rest are barely contributing. Even the match against BD, if it wasn't for Rizwan's 70, Pak would have bottled the match to BD as well. Your guys batting is a big concern honestly.
 
light said:
This was a terrible performance. Openers batting with under 100 SR in t20 is a no-no. It seems like after Babar and Rizwan goes,rest are barely contributing. Even the match against BD, if it wasn't for Rizwan's 70, Pak would have bottled the match to BD as well. Your guys batting is a big concern honestly.
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I may be wrong but it seems like BD are not playing to win.
 
As we all know, there is a tactic of quickly adjusting and adapting your batting if the wicket has a surprise factor.

The way Pak batted, it seems as if they have no concept of this approach.

They ALL played with the same stuck in a rut approach.

They all waited for their favorite ball speed, length and skid factor in the wicket, so that they can hit big.
And none was there.

They failed to realize that those “to be hit” deliveries that they practice day n night in nets, were not there.

So what to do now?
They had no idea.

The way Asif and Iftikhar played was truly disappointing.
Both practiced big hitting in nets on fast n pacey balls pitched in the hitting zone.
But what did they face in the match?
Yorkers, slow balls, wider balls passing on the wide line crease, and good spin bowling that they played with no foot work and no innovation and/or improvisation to disrupt the bowler.

Our coaches need to expose this HUGE surprise to our batsmen that there is a concept in batting to quickly adjust n adapt your approach if the wicket is different than what you expect.

You cannot be just glued into the crease and wait for your favorite ball in every single game.

Good batting requires good versatility.
It’s not only a true fact but part of basic common sense.
 
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Would have been the same outcome in the first match as well if Williamson wasn’t dumb enough to bat first.

This Pakistan team is a joke.
 
Mamoon said:
Would have been the same outcome in the first match as well if Williamson wasn’t dumb enough to bat first.

This Pakistan team is a joke.
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The joke what it seems like, is their IQ factor.

They aren’t just seem alert, sharp and street smart.

They seem to have frozen brains, and can’t quickly react to the split second changing situations.
 
If the problem is middle order, then why don't one of the openers play in middle order and have someone attacking like open.
 
Colorblind Genius said:
As we all know, there is a tactic of quickly adjusting and adapting your batting if the wicket has a surprise factor.

The way Pak batted, it seems as if they have no concept of this approach.

They ALL played with the same stuck in a rut approach.

They all waited for their favorite ball speed, length and skid factor in the wicket, so that they can hit big.
And none was there.

They failed to realize that those “to be hit” deliveries that they practice day n night in nets, were not there.

So what to do now?
They had no idea.

The way Asif and Iftikhar played was truly disappointing.
Both practiced big hitting in nets on fast n pacey balls pitched in the hitting zone.
But what did they face in the match?
Yorkers, slow balls, wider balls passing on the wide line crease, and good spin bowling that they played with no foot work and no innovation and/or improvisation to disrupt the bowler.

Our coaches need to expose this HUGE surprise to our batsmen that there is a concept in batting to quickly adjust n adapt your approach if the wicket is different than what you expect.

You cannot be just glued into the crease and wait for your favorite ball in every single game.

Good batting requires good versatility.
It’s not only a true fact but part of basic common sense.
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Good point. One has to question what these guys are doing in practice.

International bowlers won't give you six balls in your zone to hit. Instead the batters must use the width and depth of the crease to put the bowlers off their lengths, manipulate the field, and not simply wait for the bad ball which may never come.
 
As one sided as it could get this was pure minnow level hopefully we will improve
 
Pakistan couldn't score a single six in their innings summed up the dominance of New Zealand's spinners. It was the first completed T20I innings in New Zealand without a single six in 77 games. Finn Allen, who was picked ahead of Martin Guptill once again, alone hit six sixes during his 42-ball 62 as New Zealand coasted home with plenty to spare.
 
There is no hope with this team, if bowlers can't stop opponents by 150/160 we are done and dusted. We will chase 185+ once in five games and that also if Riz/Baber make the bulk of it. Move along folks, nothing to watch here.
 
ZafarKhan2022 said:
From the comments here one would think the match where Pakistan beat New Zealand 3 days ago didn't occur.
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Yeah Asia Cup final also didn't occur.

T20 semifinal 1 year ago also didn't occur.

The loss 4-3 to England didn't occur.

Only T20 win against NZ 3 days ago occured.
 
The team has no surprise factor going into the World Cup something that can help win a few important matches it’s looking a bit stale with the top 3 of Babar Rizwan Shan expect a struggle in high scoring matches.

At least Babar has full backing if he thinks after previous failures the current batting lineup will suddenly beat the best teams in high scoring matches then he might aswell step down from captaincy and let somebody else have a go.
 
Rana said:
I may be wrong but it seems like BD are not playing to win.
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Bangladesh is a terrible T20 side. It is beyond me how they qualified for the t20 world Cup directly. They don't have the players or expertise in this format. I know alot of BD supporters will point at Shakib and his number 1 AR position but he does not do justice to this format, atleast form what I have witnessed. Imo, you can't really play to win when you are not good in the format. This would be a completely different scenario and conversation had it been ODI format.
 
Colorblind Genius said:
As we all know, there is a tactic of quickly adjusting and adapting your batting if the wicket has a surprise factor.

The way Pak batted, it seems as if they have no concept of this approach.

They ALL played with the same stuck in a rut approach.

They all waited for their favorite ball speed, length and skid factor in the wicket, so that they can hit big.
And none was there.

They failed to realize that those “to be hit” deliveries that they practice day n night in nets, were not there.

So what to do now?
They had no idea.

The way Asif and Iftikhar played was truly disappointing.
Both practiced big hitting in nets on fast n pacey balls pitched in the hitting zone.
But what did they face in the match?
Yorkers, slow balls, wider balls passing on the wide line crease, and good spin bowling that they played with no foot work and no innovation and/or improvisation to disrupt the bowler.

Our coaches need to expose this HUGE surprise to our batsmen that there is a concept in batting to quickly adjust n adapt your approach if the wicket is different than what you expect.

You cannot be just glued into the crease and wait for your favorite ball in every single game.

Good batting requires good versatility.
It’s not only a true fact but part of basic common sense.
Click to expand...

It's almost as if the coaching in Pakistan is less developed than we would find at school level in most other serious cricket nations.
 
Colorblind Genius said:
As we all know, there is a tactic of quickly adjusting and adapting your batting if the wicket has a surprise factor.

The way Pak batted, it seems as if they have no concept of this approach.

They ALL played with the same stuck in a rut approach.

They all waited for their favorite ball speed, length and skid factor in the wicket, so that they can hit big.
And none was there.

They failed to realize that those “to be hit” deliveries that they practice day n night in nets, were not there.

So what to do now?
They had no idea.

The way Asif and Iftikhar played was truly disappointing.
Both practiced big hitting in nets on fast n pacey balls pitched in the hitting zone.
But what did they face in the match?
Yorkers, slow balls, wider balls passing on the wide line crease, and good spin bowling that they played with no foot work and no innovation and/or improvisation to disrupt the bowler.

Our coaches need to expose this HUGE surprise to our batsmen that there is a concept in batting to quickly adjust n adapt your approach if the wicket is different than what you expect.

You cannot be just glued into the crease and wait for your favorite ball in every single game.

Good batting requires good versatility.
It’s not only a true fact but part of basic common sense.
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This is the biggest problem ie the incompetence of the coaching staff. When reporters ask them the tough questions, all of them respond in international cricket you can't spoon feed players and coach anything on tours.

If this is the lazy approach of the coaching staff then why are they being paid such handsome amounts?

It looks like all the players in the team are being put and allowed to get away with being in their comfort zones. There is no one to seriously challenge the players and make them work on their weak areas even if they don't like it.
 
One of our most embarrassing defeats outclassed completely it's like losing 6-1 in footy
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
It's almost as if the coaching in Pakistan is less developed than we would find at school level in most other serious cricket nations.
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This is the reality of the incompetence in our domestic cricket and academics. I can't really think of many players who have drastically improved their games and a major reason behind this is that we have had coaches who have treated their jobs as a 9-5 venture but have never been seriously appraised in a professional environment for their performances and output.
 
Savak said:
This is the reality of the incompetence in our domestic cricket and academics. I can't really think of many players who have drastically improved their games and a major reason behind this is that we have had coaches who have treated their jobs as a 9-5 venture but have never been seriously appraised in a professional environment for their performances and output.
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Watching Pakistan cricketers, it has always seemed like they are just going into international cricket undercooked, they don't have any idea how to adapt or play shots according to different situations, they will just go in and hit the same shots which have got them some sort of success in a much weaker domestic league. I don't really see why you need batting coaches then, if a player is just expected to try to work stuff out themselves.
 
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