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Pakistan team is in a pickle of sorts and they will need lots of "other" results going their way. Both Kiwis and SA can upset Pakistan chances of progressing into the World cup Semi final for which they will require a miraculous turnaround in their own form and lot of luck in other results.

Pakistan Fans would ideally like Kiwis to lose but that might just fire up the saffers whom Pakistan face this sunday in what is virtually a knockout match for them


Kiwis have rather stronger Opponents in SA, WI, Pakistan, Australia and England and they will need a minimum Two wins to have a good chance to Qualify for Semi's

SA is in the same situation as Pakistan needs to win all of the remaining encounters. They might get demoralized by a defeat against Kiwi's which Pakistan might be able to take advantage of on Sunday.

Oh, I am loving it "Between devil and deep sea"

Which team will you support tomorrow??
 
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Obviously Sa. If nz win, they'll have one out of their 2 needed wins marked off, pak will more than likely be out of the tournament.
 
The thing with sa is that if they win tomorrow the match on Sunday will become a knockout it will add some flavour to the context.
 
A saffer win 2maw and a bang win Vs aus thursday gives everybody a lifeline.
2 huge huge games
 
Ofcourse South Africa, New Zealand winning here would make them one step closer to that SF spot. We want them to lose most of their matches, so why not now?

South Africa winning will only help us, also they can't qualify along with us so no harm done anyway. As far as winning momentum is concerned, I don't think it would matter much given that we have to defeat every team where most of them will be in similar position.

I hope everyone supports South Africa, as there is a high chance New Zealand might go downhill from here given that they will face even tougher opponents after this match, and can make it easier for us to qualify without depending on NRR.
 
SA. That will add spice to their contest with us on Sunday, as it will become a virtual knockout game.
 
Ofcourse we need to support brother Imran Tahir and unofficial Pak brother Amla.
 
Nigidi will be back. Kiwis will be playing two spinners and look to exploit SA weakness.

I wouldnt fancy SA chasing and would like to see them bat first

This one promises to be a cracker actually I believe their are far more twist and turns in store for us in this later half of the tournament

From One chokers to another. Lets do it brothers
 
Correction. From one minnow to a choker.

Pakistan choke anymore. It just plays as per its ability.

Minnow?
Have you forgotten that Ind beat Sa too?
Even BD beat Sa?
Dunno how you can call us a minnow and not them
 
Minnow?
Have you forgotten that Ind beat Sa too?
Even BD beat Sa?
Dunno how you can call us a minnow and not them
I know SA been poor this WC but if you look at their record pre WC they were playing decent cricket.

Pakistan is just a borderline minnow team that would occasionally play above its weight and give us fans the odd happiness. I have just accepted this fact.
 
I know SA been poor this WC but if you look at their record pre WC they were playing decent cricket.

Pakistan is just a borderline minnow team that would occasionally play above its weight and give us fans the odd happiness. I have just accepted this fact.

We lost 3-2 against them in sa considering it was their home conditions I wouldn't call it an occasional win.
 
https://www.sport24.co.za/Cricket/C...eas-a-dozen-years-of-black-caps-hell-20190618

Proteas: A dozen years of Black Caps hell


Cape Town – Positives? Yes, there are a few to bank for trepidation-filled South African supporters ahead of the must-win World Cup clash with New Zealand at Edgbaston on Wednesday (11:30 SA time).

Like the overall record between the countries in one-day internationals, showing clear-cut enough 41-24 supremacy in victories for the Proteas (63.07 percent).

Or the fact that when they last met in World Cup circumstances at the very same Birmingham venue, in 1999, Hansie Cronje’s South Africa posted a comfortable 74-run triumph at the Super Six stage: Herschelle Gibbs powered the SA innings of 287/5 with his 91, before the Black Caps were pinned back to a 213/8 finish.

That result also brought South Africa’s win tally in a CWC context to 2-1 over those foes, following New Zealand’s seven-wicket victory at the 1992 tournament and the 1996 avenging triumph by five wickets at Faisalabad.

But since then the Proteas have suffered all manner of World Cup angst at the hands of the New Zealanders: you might call it their 12 years of purgatory.


For between the 2003 and 2015 World Cups inclusively, it has been depressingly one-way traffic in favour of the Black Caps – four successive, highly damaging outcomes in their favour that have played significant, associated roles in the Proteas’ status as perhaps the most jinxed cricketing superpower at the event.

It is just one reason why a “payback time” conviction needs to run thick in the ranks of Faf du Plessis and his charges on Wednesday – crash for a fifth time in a row at CWC to the men from the Land of the Long White Cloud and South Africa will almost certainly be depressingly early “toast” at this one.

Here, in descending order from most recent, is a recap of that troublesome quartet of World Cup tussles:

2015, Auckland: New Zealand won by four wickets (semi-final):

The dreaded “Grant Elliott” game … where the Johannesburg-born, former Gauteng and Griquas player proved ironic, unexpected major thorn in the Proteas’ flesh, and deprived them of a place in what would have been their maiden CWC final.

His unbeaten 84 at a pulsating Eden Park, including a game-swaying, spirited last-ditch assault on SA’s legendary spearhead Dale Steyn, led to various seasoned players in the losers’ ranks slumping to the turf and in some cases weeping animatedly over another instance of shattered dreams at the event.

The win was achieved with no more than a ball to spare in a contest reduced by weather to 43 overs a side: the Proteas seemed to have earlier done everything right at the crease by notching a beefy 281 for five, Du Plessis anchoring things with his 82 before a late blitzkrieg from AB de Villiers (65no) and David Miller (49).

There had been pre-game ructions in the SA camp with the revelation that CSA pressure had been brought to bear that a less than fully fit Vernon Philander – though he fared no worse than anyone else with the ball, in truth – be selected above original intended pick Kyle Abbott.

2011, Dhaka: New Zealand won by 49 runs (quarter-final):

Call this the “unruffle Faf” game, if you wish: an acrimonious tussle (there had been plenty before, bilaterally) where Du Plessis, then a relative ODI rookie, was chortlingly surrounded by New Zealanders -- including key provocateur Kyle Mills who wasn’t even in the starting XI -- after his role in the awfully expensive run out of De Villiers.

Some argy-bargy ensued, but the fact remained that South Africa, at the time very much alive in a chase of 222 for knockout victory, slumped from 121 for four (just before the sacrifice of a budding De Villiers) to a numbing 172 all out.

Smart money had earlier suggested the Proteas would get past the post and into the semis after curtailing the Black Caps to 221 for eight, helped by some parsimonious spells from spinners Imran Tahir and Johan Botha.

In the final analysis, a knock of 83 from that slightly stormy petrel of NZ cricket, the stoutly-proportioned Jesse Ryder, made a vital difference in the outcome.

2007, Grenada: New Zealand won by five wickets (Super Eight):

This wasn’t an absolute train smash, as Graeme Smith’s South Africa would go on to squeeze their way into the semi-finals anyway. But they received something of a comeuppance, all the same, as the Black Caps comfortably bagged this Caribbean fixture.

The Proteas were always going to be struggling to get the right result after posting only 193 for seven in a full 50 overs on the initially seam-friendly surface (it was a good toss for NZ to win in drizzly, gloomy conditions).

Herschelle Gibbs, who often prospered against these foes, top-scored with 60 … but at an unusually low (certainly for him) strike rate of exactly that.

The Black Caps duly got past the score with a half-century from Scott Styris and 38 not out from player of the match Craig McMillan, who had also bothered SA with his wily medium-pace fare (3/23).

2003, Johannesburg: New Zealand won by nine wickets (pool stage):

This was really the beginning of a disappointingly premature end to South Africa’s maiden home-staged CWC.

Already having suffered defeat to West Indies in the grand tournament opener at Newlands, and with just a victory over minnows Kenya to slightly stabilise them in the interim, the Proteas were pretty close to humiliated in a seething Wanderers “Bullring” to go one from three … they would eventually fail by a whisker to make the Super Sixes cut.

It all looked so dandy when an on-fire Gibbs positively dazzled en route to 143 at almost a run a ball to take South Africa to 306/6.

But NZ skipper Stephen Fleming then played one of the innings of his ODI life as the visitors stayed composed and commanding against the SA attack even as Highveld summer rain interruptions crept into their chase.

By the time the game ended, they had comfortably achieved their reduced target of 226 from 39 overs, Fleming unbowed on 134 not out at a fractionally Gibbs-eclipsing pace: the great, but ageing, fading paceman Allan Donald suffered the rare indignity of leaking more than 50 runs in 5.5 overs.
 
Will they break the 16 year old Jinx? 4 straight losses in a row to Blackcaps in the world cup.
 
RSA wins tomorrow then again on Sunday against Pak, all of a sudden they will be back in business.
 
Rooting for South Africa. C’mon !!

all bottom 5 teams need SA to hammer NZ.
 
Didn’t know NZ has beaten SA in the last 4 WC. SA need to bring their bilateral series form into this, just pretend it’s a bilateral series game.
 
Rooting for SA so that wc is open.

Bdesh, sl n pak need nz to lose so obv they shall be supporting RSA.

Common saffers bring your A game.
 
Biggest game of the WC, it will decide the semis.

Win this game and we effectively knock out 4 teams :))
 
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If Nz lose today ,their path to semifinal in danger bcz they still have to face strangest team
 
It's hilarious to see how 4 teams' fate depend on this one match. Come on NZ, knock them out.
 
New Zealand v South Africa | 25th Match, World Cup | Edgbaston | June 19, 2019 | Match Thread

South Africa, who registered their first win of the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup by defeating Afghanistan by nine wickets, will face a much stiffer challenge when they take on New Zealand at Edgbaston on Wednesday.

Overview:

New Zealand v South Africa

Edgbaston, Birmingham
2019 ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup, Match 25
Wednesday, 19 June; 10:30am local, 9.30am GMT

It was Grant Elliot's famous "hit into the grandstand" in an enthralling climax which ended South Africa's World Cup campaign in 2015 and powered New Zealand to their first ever appearance at the finals. While stakes might not be as high for New Zealand when they take the field on Wednesday, for South Africa, the result would determine their contention for the race to the semi-finals.

New Zealand started their World Cup campaign with three consecutive wins before their fixture against India ended in a wash-out at Trent Bridge. The bowlers have been in prime form, having restricted the opposition to a below-par total on each occasion, making things easier for the batsmen. The middle-order, which failed considerably against Bangladesh before Mitchell Santner finished the job, will be put to a stiff test against South Africa.

South Africa, destabilized after three consecutive defeats, put on a complete performance to register a nine-wicket win over Afghanistan in their last game. While Imran Tahir produced another match-winning spell as he picked up four wickets, the century-stand put on by the openers was probably the greatest positive for the Proteas. The top-order will have to shoulder responsibility yet again, as they will be up against an in-form New Zealand bowling unit.

Lungi Ngidi, who has been declared match fit after he missed last three games due to hamstring injury, is likely to replace Beuran Hendricks in the playing XI.

Key Players

Kane Williamson (New Zealand): The skipper has been in prime form, scoring 40 and 79* in his last two innings after aggregating 152 runs in the two warm-up games. Williamson, who scored a century in his last outing at Edgbaston, will once again look to play a long innings.

Kagiso Rabada (South Africa): The 24-year-old has been a strike bowler for South Africa for the last few years, leading the pace battery in the absence of Dale Steyn. Rabada, who averages 19.82 with the ball against New Zealand, will look to produce a match-winning spell in this all-important game.

Conditions

It will be a cloudy start to the day with chances of some light rain showers. However, it should become increasingly dry and bright as the day wears on. Teams batting first have won three of the last four completed games at Edgbaston.

Squads

New Zealand: Kane Williamson (capt), Tom Blundell (wk), Trent Boult, Colin de Grandhomme, Lockie Ferguson, Martin Guptill, Matt Henry, Tom Latham, Colin Munro, Jimmy Neesham, Henry Nicholls, Mitchell Santner, Ish Sodhi, Tim Southee, Ross Taylor

South Africa: Faf du Plessis (c), Aiden Markram, Quinton de Kock (wk), Hashim Amla, Rassie van der Dussen, David Miller, Chris Morris, Andile Phehlukwayo, JP Duminy, Dwaine Pretorius, Beuran Hendricks, Kagiso Rabada, Lungi Ngidi, Imran Tahir, Tabraiz Shamsi
 
New Zealand v South Africa
• Since New Zealand beat South Africa by four wickets at ICC Men’s Cricket World
Cup 2015, the two sides have met in two ODI series, both being won by South Africa,
2-1 in a series in South Africa in 2015 and 3-2 in a series in New Zealand in 2017.
• This is an eighth ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup meeting between New Zealand and
South Africa, the Black Caps have won five of the previous seven including each of
the last four.
• New Zealand and South Africa met 20 years ago at the ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup
1999, the last time the tournament was hosted in England, South Africa won that
match by 74 runs at Edgbaston, where this fixture will also be played.
• New Zealand have not won an ODI at Edgbaston in Birmingham since 1983, losing
three times there since (also 4 NRs); they do have three ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup
wins at the venue however (2 in 1983, 1 in 1975).
• South Africa played two ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup matches at Edgbaston in
1999, beating New Zealand by 74 runs before their famous tie in the semi-finals
against Australia which saw them eliminated in dramatic fashion.
• New Zealand have won 11 of their last 12 completed ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup
matches, their only defeat in that run the 2015 final to Australia at the MCG.
• Martin Guptill needs 93 runs to become the second player to score 1,000 ICC Men’s
Cricket World Cup runs for New Zealand, after Stephen Fleming (1,075).
• Imrahn Tahir (South Africa) has bowled 222 balls at this ICC Cricket World and is yet to
be hit for six or bowl a wide or no ball, no other bowler has bowled as many deliveries
without being hit for a maximum.
• Hashim Amla is 24 runs away from becoming the fourth South African player to reach
8,000 in men’s ODIs (also Kallis, de Villiers and Gibbs), meanwhile team mate David
Miller is just nine away from 3,000.
• Imran Tahir (37 wickets) needs two more wickets to become South Africa’s leading
wicket taker in ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup history, he is currently one behind the
current leader, Allan Donald (38).

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South Africa vs New Zealand | World Cup: 25th match | Birmingham | 19 June, 2019 | Match Thread

I´ll obviously be supporting South Africa so that it 'easifies' Pakistan´s road to the semi-final a little, just a little of course for now, but the thing to be feared here is that New Zealand have a 5-2 record over South Africa in world cup matches, and the last time that the latter beat the former was as back in 1999 - 20 years ago! I find it a little astonishing because in all the editions that followed, 2007, 07, 11 and 15, South Africa were always the better team of the two.

Either way, go Saffers! It will obviously also be good for the health of the tournament if they win today.
 
Supporting New Zealand. Pakistan does not deserve lifelines and favours from other teams.

We deserve to be eliminated before the semis and that is exactly what is going to happen.
 
Supporting New Zealand. Pakistan does not deserve lifelines and favours from other teams.

We deserve to be eliminated before the semis and that is exactly what is going to happen.
We're doomed now :facepalm:
 
Would replace Munro with Nichols and de grandhomme with southee. Latham to open (which he used to do). And Nichols at no. 5. 1 more bowler and more stable batting order
 
Even if New Zealand win today. They could still also lose to England, Australia, Pakistan and the West Indies.

You never know, Second half of this World Cup. I’m sure we’ll see some unpredictable results. Here’s hoping the bad weather stays away for good though!
 
Of course another weather related stoppage.

I don't know how people can enjoy living in a country where it rains this much, feels like every other day it's raining.
 
i think they will hammer WI, they are a poor side.

Apart from the game against Pakistan they havent done anything.
 
If the outfield remains damp with no match, will it help Pak?
 
Goodness gracious . their is just no rain and not even a forecast for rain but "wet outfield"
We all thought that after a record 4 washouts they will start protecting the field better but alas !

looks like a delayed start
 
There will be an inspection at 11:00 Am to assess the conditions.
 
I am supporting Kiwis, De Kock said IPL was more emotional than WC 2015 semis. Players don’t have the heart.
 
If this game is a washout then pak is out of semis

Why are you talking nonsense? If this game is a washout it is good for Pakistan. South Africa get knocked out and provided we win all our matches, NZ will have to beat two out of WI, Eng and Aus.
 
Somebody please donate 500GBP to ECB so they can buy covers for the run-up areas. Pathetic!
 
Somebody please donate 500GBP to ECB so they can buy covers for the run-up areas. Pathetic!

Am sure it will be more in the thousands not just £500. Even then ECB is very rich but this is poor from them.
 
cant believe we are clinging to hope, our team is dejected and in fighting going on.

These guys dont have the bottle.

Anyway, i will be there in the SA game on sunday. ;)
 
If the weather doesn't kill the game on the day, the weather the day before does.

What a shambles.
 
Big game this not sure if our team iss followinng this looks like they've lost interest.....in this WC
 
So basically because of the rains of yesterday this game is delayed. Wow. Couldn’t have made efforts to cover the whole ground especially for the wc if it rains!!
 
Well believe it or not, the national forecast looks very good across the UK for the next week or so.

Now why didn't we start the World Cup at this time instead of early June...
 
Kiwis sent the Proteas packing twice and now they can send them back agains. Boult is in my fantasy, need a 5fer. But I have Guptil as well, so need a 300 + score. Hope we see a good game.
 
South Africa winning is great for tournament

Even though Pakistan might not make it but that opens up the 4th spot for SA, Ban, NZ and Pak
 
Why would you win toss and bowl on a flat deck?? anyway thanks Kiwis hope SA cash on it
 
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