New Zealand [273/8] beat India [251] to win 2nd ODI by 22 runs; Win series 2-0 [One match to go]

[Aman]

Man can we ever hit the stumps when there's a chance of a run out?..

 

[Ahmed216]

Next in is Allan Donald

 

[RamLakhan]

A kind of repeat of WC SF

 

[Space Cat]

NZ just can't hit the stumps at all. Then i remember we have a wicket keeper as our fielding coach.

 

[Space Cat]

Might as well go for two every time with these throws.

 

[Aman]

India taking risky ones and twos because they know our fielder's aren't going to hit the stumps.

 

[Ahmed216]

NZ did not have enough firepower at the end.
Very poor stuff

 

[Aman]

Our Fielding is going to cost us this match.

 

[Space Cat]

What is the point of bowling short and wide to the tail. Full and straight!

 

[Aman]

Lockie and Boult would have finished this match.

 

[Space Cat]

Eden Park always produces these kinds of matches.

 

[Aman]

Allowing 2s like this at Eden Park..

 

[Aman]

Finally a run out lol.

 

[tyron_woodley]

Finally a run out lol.

Alan bumrah donald lol in

 

[Square Drive]

Jaddu's effort all in vain it seems.

 

[tyron_woodley]

is it James neesham or Jimmy? thought it was Jimmy.

 

[Aman]

Series over baby

 

[Space Cat]

is it James neesham or Jimmy? thought it was Jimmy.

Jimmy is a nickname for James.

 

[Aman]

Bowlers got it together at the death.

Big series win.

 

[Aman]

Ground Fielding needs to improve.

India were taking easy 1s and 2s because they were certain we weren't going to hit.

 

[Space Cat]

Good hard fought win by NZ with players down with gastro. They take the ODI series.

Should give them some confidence.

 

[Aman]

Hope Kane plays the dead rubber, needs some form going into the Tests.

 

[tyron_woodley]

great win for n.z. congrats. I was thoroughly entertained.

I hate n.z only for making shardul look decent. thanks for ending jhadav's career I would hope.

Lastly saini can bat alright I guess. chahal can defend to an extent. shardul is a waste of space. jhadav mate please for God sake what are you good at and why are you playing for india?

 

[Square Drive]

Congrats [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] [MENTION=131138]Space Cat[/MENTION]

 

[Aman]

I've given Bennett flak but he bowled well at the death.

 

[Aman]

Southee or Jamieson MOTM.

 

[Space Cat]

Eden park may be silly with its short straight boundaries but it always produces great games.

 

[Aman]

GOAT has MOTS sealed

 

[ind_win]

This is a series which in which bowling failed India. More often than not, batting comes good.
The form and fitness of bumrah is a big worry.
And the other specialists - thakur, chahal, jadeja, kuldeep turning out toothless.
Useless bowling coach + pathetic selections by the captain = series defeat
Have not seen India trying bowlers as much as batsmen.

Comeon kohli, binny jr. and any other IPL discards are ready for NZ tour.
We have test series too, let us not disappoint our hosts and gift them that too.
We want more and more records - against India by opponent teams.

 

[Ab Fan]

Good win for NZ! Hopefully, Jadhav is done now. We need a better no.6 and Dube is not an answer either. We better go with a specialist bat like M Pandey who can field extraordinary atleast.

Saini can bat so hand him no.8 position, Shami at 9, Chahal 10 and Bumrah 11.

 

[minamino]

Is Jamieson any good?

 

[ind_win]

NZ played well within their player limitations.
Taylor justified his ranking as one of the most prolific in ODI format in the last 5 years.
Congrats.

 

[Aman]

Bumrah will be fine for the Test series. He'll be a thorn in our side in that format for sure.

 

[Aman]

Is Jamieson any good?

Yes.

Gives us a different dimension with his bounce and he's accurate. Also handy with the bat.

 

[Aman]

Happy for Latham, first series win as captain.

Think we should have a different captain for each format.

Southee in T20s, Kane in ODIs and Latham in Tests?

 

[Maliq_Mudasir]

Jadeja never tried to attack. Exposing tail when you are supposed to take 70% of the strike is a blunder. You can't rely upon number 9,10 and 11. Typical Dhoni mindset.

 

[tyron_woodley]

Bumrah will be fine for the Test series. He'll be a thorn in our side in that format for sure.

possibly he is saving himself for tests. People are underestimating him lol.

Anyway new zeland played extremely well. What an entertaining series. Loved it. Deserves victory.

 

[ind_win]

Jadeja never tried to attack. Exposing tail when you are supposed to take 70% of the strike is a blunder. You can't rely upon number 9,10 and 11. Typical Dhoni mindset.

which is why he was "backed" by dhoni for 5 years.

 

[Maliq_Mudasir]

possibly he is saving himself for tests. People are underestimating him lol.

Anyway new zeland played extremely well. What an entertaining series. Loved it. Deserves victory.

No player in the world underperforms deliberately. Both the formats have their own importance. If he is saving his best for the Tests, then he shouldn't be playing OD's. He definitely looked out of touch in last few games.

 

[Thomaskutty]

Kiwis gonna win 3-0 and grab back the momentum before the test series.

Why wasn't Neesham playing in the t20s?

 

[Saurav]

Today reminded me of WC SF. Jadeja played like Dhoni that day.And Saini played like Jadeja that day.Both Dhoni that day and Jadeja today were pathetic irrespective of scores.You can't leave all hitting to junior batsmen

Having said that we have some positives

Saini can bat and should lock his position .Thakur can retire

Iyer has done well,though threw it away today

Need to bring back Gill .Shaw and Aggarwal are not the answer

Kohli again struggling with movement.Cannot be compared with Sachin by just scoring on pattas

Also why do they drop Shami so easily?Need to back him

 

[minamino]

Not being able to chase 270 odd in Eden Park is a joke

 

[Saurav]

Happy for Latham, first series win as captain.

Think we should have a different captain for each format.

Southee in T20s, Kane in ODIs and Latham in Tests?

Southee?

Why not Guptill?

Southee is nearing the end

 

[minamino]

Southee?

Why not Guptill?

Southee is nearing the end

Guptill is older than Southee.

 

[tyron_woodley]

Today reminded me of WC SF. Jadeja played like Dhoni that day.And Saini played like Jadeja that day.Both Dhoni that day and Jadeja today were pathetic irrespective of scores.You can't leave all hitting to junior batsmen

Having said that we have some positives

Saini can bat and should lock his position .Thakur can retire

Iyer has done well,though threw it away today

Need to bring back Gill .Shaw and Aggarwal are not the answer

Kohli again struggling with movement.Cannot be compared with Sachin by just scoring on pattas

Also why do they drop Shami so easily?Need to back him

shami was rested not dropped.

Shaw and agarwal barely played. Give them some time jeez. gill yes should be playing.

kohli has played and dominated in the toughest of conditions in test cricket. He has nothing to prove.

 

[Aman]

Southee?

Why not Guptill?

Southee is nearing the end

Southee is the most likely. Not really sure on it because I think our best T20 team is completely different and doesn't have most of the incumbents in it.

 

[murakh1]

Careless Batting By Top Order Always in Hurry
.1) Agarwal is Out of Form since Practice Matches He played 2)Prithvi Shaw Like I want To Be Virender sehwag or seems like He Wants To Showcase His Strock Making Ability 3) Virat Kohli Finding Difficulties On playing Balls That Are Coming Into The wickets 4)Disappointed With The Batting Of Rahul, Some How He Finds Himself Get Out 5) Shreyas Iyer ,Every time he wants to get out started dancing on the Pitch 6)Jadeja has Cool Head But Neither Has Power Nor Timing 7) Jadav again with his pathetic Batting display is Like Never Ending Ekta Kapoor's Sans bahu Serial For Us. A Worst Playing XI. Dont Know What X Factor Jadav Got And Manish Pande Doesn't. And For God Please Drop Shardul and Jadavand Play Shami and Pande instead.Enough Experiment Has Done Stop Depending On Luck Every Time

 

[Slim]

India deserves this humiliation.

 

[Mobashir]

Happy for Latham, first series win as captain.

Think we should have a different captain for each format.

Southee in T20s, Kane in ODIs and Latham in Tests?

Surely Southee has nothing to do in your T20 side. Not good enough.

 

[Saurav]

shami was rested not dropped.

Shaw and agarwal barely played. Give them some time jeez. gill yes should be playing.

kohli has played and dominated in the toughest of conditions in test cricket. He has nothing to prove.

You don't rest your main players with series to win.He was dropped

Its about the way Shaw and Aggarwal batted.Shaw in particular doesn't look ready.Not doubting the talent

I'm talking about ODIs and talk of Kohli being the GOAT.Tendulkar faced better bowlers in tougher conditions day in day out

 

[Saurav]

Guptill is older than Southee.

I know but batsmen tend to last longer than pacers.Plus he's more of a certainty

 

[Rana]

Light years ahead of Pakistan you know

 

[Saurav]

Also why do they keep playing Jadhav if hes not gonna bowl

 

[minamino]

I’d say make Chapman the T20 captain

 

[Titan24]

Bowling again let India down along with batting too in this match. From 198/8 it was extremely poor stuff to let the opposition slip away to 273. After that none of the Indian batsmen converted the starts.

 

[tyron_woodley]

Light years ahead of Pakistan you know

they did smash australia prior to this series though and won 5 0 in t20. It's understandable to lose at some point.

 

[Aman]

I’d say make Chapman the T20 captain

Hopefully after the T20 WC there is a change in direction and the selectors select specialists and the young kids who grew up playing this rather than the seniors who play other formats and get the first look in.

 

[tyron_woodley]

You don't rest your main players with series to win.He was dropped

Its about the way Shaw and Aggarwal batted.Shaw in particular doesn't look ready.Not doubting the talent

I'm talking about ODIs and talk of Kohli being the GOAT.Tendulkar faced better bowlers in tougher conditions day in day out

cummins, rabada, steyn, boult, morkel, Anderson, broad. He has faced plenty of top bowlers.

 

[minamino]

Hopefully after the T20 WC there is a change in direction and the selectors select specialists and the young kids who grew up playing this rather than the seniors who play other formats and get the first look in.

Chapman has got the experience of captaincy with HK. I don’t know about NZ domestic but he’s a very decent player and is not that old yet

 

[Hasan123]

India need to try another spinner. Kuldeep and Chahal are badly out of form.

 

[sweep_shot]

I am very surprised by this result. Was expecting India to win 2-1 or 3-0.

 

[Aman]

Chapman should be playing the next ODI, no point giving him one match and leaving it at that.

Series is over, give the guy a chance. He's 25 and if they keep him out of the fold too long, his development is going to stall and he will be a bright prospect that is lost.

 

[sweep_shot]

Chapman should be playing the next ODI, no point giving him one match and leaving it at that.

Series is over, give the guy a chance. He's 25 and if they keep him out of the fold too long, his development is going to stall and he will be a bright prospect that is lost.

I think NZ should go for 3-0 kill. Not many teams defeat india 3-0. It can be a real boost after 0-5 loss in T20I.

 

[Aman]

I think NZ should go for 3-0 kill. Not many teams defeat india 3-0. It can be a real boost after 0-5 loss in T20I.

If Kane is playing, he should come in for Blundell.

Otherwise the same team.

 

[Saurav]

cummins, rabada, steyn, boult, morkel, Anderson, broad. He has faced plenty of top bowlers.

And how many times has he dominated them in tough conditions in ODIs?

Not to mention these bowlers are no match for Akram,McGrath,Lee etc

 

[Saj]

New Zealand have been fined 60 per cent of their match fee for maintaining a slow over-rate against India in the second One Day International in Auckland on Saturday.

Chris Broad of the Emirates ICC Elite Panel of Match Referees imposed the sanction after Tom Latham’s side was ruled to be three overs short of the target after time allowances were taken into consideration.

In accordance with Article 2.22 of the ICC Code of Conduct for Players and Player Support Personnel, which relates to minimum over-rate offences, players are fined 20 per cent of their match fees for every over their side fails to bowl in the allotted time.

Latham pleaded guilty to the offence and accepted the proposed sanction, so there was no need for a formal hearing.

On-field umpires Chris Brown and Bruce Oxenford, third umpire Langton Rusere and fourth umpire John Dempsey leveled the charges.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I am very surprised by this result. Was expecting India to win 2-1 or 3-0.

India is kohli centric in one dayer. If he doesn't click result can go any way. This has been the case for the last 4 years. Rohit/Dhawan/Kohli are the three wickets opposition need. In this match just Kohli. Others are unpredictable.

 

[Saurav]

India is kohli centric in one dayer. If he doesn't click result can go any way. This has been the case for the last 4 years. Rohit/Dhawan/Kohli are the three wickets opposition need. In this match just Kohli. Others are unpredictable.

Which suggests poor team building.There has to be more reliable players

Bumrah has failed too this series which is very rare

 

[jnaveen1980]

Hope Agarwal and Shaw correct their mistakes before Test series. That is the key part. KL Rahul would open but for the test series.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Which suggests poor team building.There has to be more reliable players

Bumrah has failed too this series which is very rare

Bumrah has gone off the boil. Dare i say if he had bowled well NZ would have folded much earlier. I am more focussed on Test series than ODI series. Last time we won. It didn't really help our cause.

 

[sweep_shot]

India is kohli centric in one dayer. If he doesn't click result can go any way. This has been the case for the last 4 years. Rohit/Dhawan/Kohli are the three wickets opposition need. In this match just Kohli. Others are unpredictable.

You have a point. Rohit and Kohli have been winning games on their own for a long time. When these two fail, India often are in trouble.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I am going to ignore our batting failure here as it is purely a purpose-driven batting order. Not match winning one. But bowling was very very poor against tailenders.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Bumrah has gone off the boil. Dare i say if he had bowled well NZ would have folded much earlier. I am more focussed on Test series than ODI series. Last time we won. It didn't really help our cause.

Bumrah's bowling average in his last five games since his comeback is 237.

This is the first time he has gone wicketless in three consecutive ODIs.

Interesting.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Congrats Kiwis on your dominating series win. We were found wanting in all 3 departments. Outplayed by a 3rd string NZ. Hope it knocked some sense into Ravishastri-Kohli combo about future building. He is also a terrible LOI captain. Rohit is much better at managing limited resources than this guy. Latham looked way better than Kohli on the field.

 

[Dingolfy]

Congrats Kiwis on your dominating series win. We were found wanting in all 3 departments. Outplayed by a 3rd string NZ. Hope it knocked some sense into Ravishastri-Kohli combo about future building. He is also a terrible LOI captain. Rohit is much better at managing limited resources than this guy. Latham looked way better than Kohli on the field.

Didnt we win 4-1 last time and that too with no Bumrah and the likes of Rayudu and Dhoni? I don't think Kohli is a bad LOI captain. We have won ODI series in SA and Aus under him and those are the places we rarely did good.
He has some stubborn selections but which captain doesn't.

 

[Dingolfy]

They are not playing against Boult and Ferguson here. It's just a bunch of newbie bowlers and oldie Southee! I'm sure Rohit and Dhawan wouldn't have gone cheaply against these bowlers.

I repeat my question again. When was the last time Rohit and Dhawan survived when ball moved like this? Both Rohit and Dhawan failed against the likes of Lakmal ( that too in India!) when they moved the ball. Everybody and their dog knows our LOI openers don't play moving ball well no matter whoever is doing it.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Didnt we win 4-1 last time and that too with no Bumrah and the likes of Rayudu and Dhoni? I don't think Kohli is a bad LOI captain. We have won ODI series in SA and Aus under him and those are the places we rarely did good.
He has some stubborn selections but which captain doesn't.

If they are serious about future building they shouldn't have included Jadhav. He says ODI is not INdia's priority. If so why do you play guys like Thakur, Jadhav. Why not Gill and other youngsters.

 

[Dingolfy]

If they are serious about future building they shouldn't have included Jadhav. He says ODI is not INdia's priority. If so why do you play guys like Thakur, Jadhav. Why not Gill and other youngsters.

Thakur for his batting ability. We need bowlers who can bat. Jadhav is a questionable selection though. But all captains have/had such selections. Dhoni had Jadeja(who was absolutely horrible during his tenure in LOIs), Mohit Sharma and even Joginder Sharma.

 

[Revolution]

Bad fielding is the main concern. This should be accurate and this issue need to be addressed.

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[Revolution]

If they are serious about future building they shouldn't have included Jadhav. He says ODI is not INdia's priority. If so why do you play guys like Thakur, Jadhav. Why not Gill and other youngsters.

In my view kedar is included for his experience but failed. It was playing 11 selection mistake. Pandey should get more chances than him.

I see bad fielding from kuldeep and Chalal too. So what should be the plan for this?? Remove both and bring new spinner??