New Zealand (402 & 110/2) secure a comprehensive 8 wicket win against India (46 & 462) in the first Test to lead the 3-match series 1-0

Still New Zealand ahead.
New ball is only 9 overs away. Their pacers will bundle our lower order in 3 overs in overcast conditions.
 
Looks like rain will save NZ
Imagine, I was thinking that rain will save India all the time. What a monster fightback change change in match.

NZ should still not give up. 2 quick wickets and back in the match.
 
bkl rahul is pure bkl. only playing coz his damad shetty is paying thru the roof to bcci to secure his daughter's future
Lol, not sure thats true. BCCI doesn't need to be bribed. There are other ways.
 
Imagine, I was thinking that rain will save India all the time. What a monster fightback change change in match.

NZ should still not give up. 2 quick wickets and back in the match.
Nz should be destroyed.

Will bumrah come to the party this time vs kryptonite or? Will he go wicketless again. He is uber useless with the new ball.

Akashdeep and so many other pacers were there yet we persisted with this dumb DSP idiot siraj.

Maybe muslim quota
 
Lol, not sure thats true. BCCI doesn't need to be bribed. There are other ways.
lol bro. havent u heard of sehwag gambhirs assault on ddca . its the same everywhrre . promising young players need to offer a cut ot something to spring into the national team.

unless one is Tendulkar or mumbai prodigious player no one just walks into national team

current guy Pan parag riyan leapfrogged ruturaj gaikwad and other better players to play odis and t20s. his parents are rich folks who helped him
 
Nz should be destroyed.

Will bumrah come to the party this time vs kryptonite or? Will he go wicketless again. He is uber useless with the new ball.

Akashdeep and so many other pacers were there yet we persisted with this dumb DSP idiot siraj.

Maybe muslim quota
I don't think pitch is doing that much here. Except crazy initial session batting by India, batsmen are able to bat.

I will back NZ to chase 150 odd runs.
 
Who scores 46 lmao 46
Hahah
Pathetic bunch of loser batsmen. Bowlers are treated like slaves. And ARs. Have to always save these prima Donna batsmen's rear every time.

Since 2015 bowlers are the reason why india are a dominant force.

Have never come across such a brittle lineup vs swing. Kohli rohit got to go. With immediate effect


T20 twonty twenty don't matter. Test cricket is really cricket. Test is above even odi world cup /t2 world cup.

Especially away Test series wins. Losing at home in tests is worse than losing a world cup.
 
lol bro. havent u heard of sehwag gambhirs assault on ddca . its the same everywhrre . promising young players need to offer a cut ot something to spring into the national team.

unless one is Tendulkar or mumbai prodigious player no one just walks into national team

current guy Pan parag riyan leapfrogged ruturaj gaikwad and other better players to play odis and t20s. his parents are rich folks who helped him
Parag is better than rutraj tulla
 
India have such extremes...they'll score 600+ here
It's the conditions. Our conditions vary a lot. The surface was damp and 42% of the deliveries were seaming 2 degrees or more in the first session.

It's the sort of pitch where Shane Watson bowled out a South Africa side full of technical batters like Kallis/Amla etc. for a paltry 96.
 
It's the conditions. Our conditions vary a lot. The surface was damp and 42% of the deliveries were seaming 2 degrees or more in the first session.

It's the sort of pitch where Shane Watson bowled out a South Africa side full of technical batters like Kallis/Amla etc. for a paltry 96.
Yea but it's not a 46 all out pitch. 150 to 200 was easily possible by any half decent side in those swing friendly conditions.
 
So sarfraz did well. Will he get dropped for toothpick model boy Gill when he returns? Rather sarfraz over kl rahul anyday.
 
I don't think pitch is doing that much here. Except crazy initial session batting by India, batsmen are able to bat.

I will back NZ to chase 150 odd runs.
Nah. anything above 130 and India will be favourites to win. But, looking at weather conditions, taking big lead is impropable.
 
New Zealand have won a grand total of 2 tests in India - in 1968 and 1988.

Lets aim to keep it that way!
 
Yea but it's not a 46 all out pitch. 150 to 200 was easily possible by any half decent side in those swing friendly conditions.
No. It was some of the toughest conditions you can have in a morning session. You need a lot of luck. Even the bounce was something like 30 % higher than usual. The Hawkeye data was all over the place. Swing was there but it was the seam movement and bounce that was killing the batters.
 
A lead of 200+. Ashwin, Jadeja and kuldeep will destroy NZ in fourth innings. Hopefully this partnership continues for another 100 runs
 
No. It was some of the toughest conditions you can have in a morning session. You need a lot of luck. Even the bounce was something like 30 % higher than usual. The Hawkeye data was all over the place. Swing was there but it was the seam movement and bounce that was killing the batters.
I highly doubt any sena team would get bundled for sub 100 even in those conditions.

India did it before wirh 36. Let's be honest here. Our bunch is pathetic vs any hint of swing. No amount of sugar coating will excuse their pathetic performance in the first innings.

For me if we lose a series at home, then even winning the wtc final won't compensate for it.

It's a L if we lose at home.
 
Still even after 1st innings disaster, Rohit completely messed up during southee- Ravindra partnership, he totally let down and follow the flow ,if he had restricted lead to below 275 then alteast we would have a chance.
This is completely messed up bcz of Rohit Captaincy right from toss he totally buried india ,asusal he need others to clear up his mess🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
 
A lead of 200+. Ashwin, Jadeja and kuldeep will destroy NZ in fourth innings. Hopefully this partnership continues for another 100 runs
The pitch is still good for batting, bro. Nz will chase down a target of 200 easily. Draw this Test is a great achievement, and winning would be historic.
 
Still even after 1st innings disaster, Rohit completely messed up during southee- Ravindra partnership, he totally let down and follow the flow ,if he had restricted lead to below 275 then alteast we would have a chance.
This is completely messed up bcz of Rohit Captaincy right from toss he totally buried india ,asusal he need others to clear up his mess🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
100% rohits idiotic captaincy.

He is a very dumb test captain. Dumb in general. Low iq.
 
The pitch is still good for batting, bro. Nz will chase down a target of 200 easily. Draw this Test is a great achievement, and winning would be historic.
Depends if bumrah comes to the party against his kryptonite team or not

And also if pitch breaks
 
Yea but it's not a 46 all out pitch. 150 to 200 was easily possible by any half decent side in those swing friendly conditions.
We collapsed quite a few times in 2018 ,21wtc finals,22 in eng.even in bng, we had a collapse.we are not even talking about aswin ,jadeja,axar, pant rescues on other matches.we need atleast 2 good batsmen with technique in top 4.Rohit, kohli,kl are not helping
 
Still even after 1st innings disaster, Rohit completely messed up during southee- Ravindra partnership, he totally let down and follow the flow ,if he had restricted lead to below 275 then alteast we would have a chance.
This is completely messed up bcz of Rohit Captaincy right from toss he totally buried india ,asusal he need others to clear up his mess🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
Problem is rohit have only plan a,just to bulldoze the opposition. Wc finals,eng second innings at hyd are prime examples for lack of plan b
 
What a comeback by India. Those who were in tears after the first inning must be absolutely stunned now. :kp :inti
 
Seriously lmao
Manjarekar can't think of anything by himself huh?

Calling sarfraz miandad in 2024. Copied off me. Get your own material.
 
In last 10 years time period,

India has better W/L ratio than all other teams.

India has better home W/L ratio than all other teams.

India has better away W/L ratio than all other teams.

India has better away + neutral W/L ratio than all other teams.

@Mamoon
 
In last 10 years time period,

India has better W/L ratio than all other teams.

India has better home W/L ratio than all other teams.

India has better away W/L ratio than all other teams.

India has better away + neutral W/L ratio than all other teams.

@Mamoon
So what should we do with this information?

Besides, W/L ratio doesn’t reflect your failure to win a Test series in England or New Zealand or South Africa which you should have managed in this period but unfortunately for India, they just don’t have the talent.

It is only Australia that made them look good outside India/Asia.
 
Deficit only 12.. Wow.. Oh its raining.. It seems there are thundershowers nearby... NZ very lucky.
 
Parag is better than rutraj tulla
that shows u do not know anything about ruturaj . his technique is 10x better than pan parag will ever be. he will be a better test batter than pan p will be ever be. t20 maybe pan p can do better with his unreliable technique but odi tests r gaek is way ahead
 
that shows u do not know anything about ruturaj . his technique is 10x better than pan parag will ever be. he will be a better test batter than pan p will be ever be. t20 maybe pan p can do better with his unreliable technique but odi tests r gaek is way ahead
Rutraj is terrible in sena conditions. Even in a tours.

Parag is younger and can bowl sping. Parag easily. In odi and t20. In tests he is a WIP
 
He is something to look forward to in the future... In INdia at least.. Not seen him bat abroad.. Hope he gets one opportunity in AUstralia.. But he is short so would he be bale to tackle the bounce there... any experts here?
This was great batting from Sarfraz. He has saved India.
 
Imagine celebrating drawn Test series also blowing your trumpet for being a champion Test team. Champion Test teams don’t celebrate drawn series.
Drawing in alien conditions vs top teams is a fine achievement.

We are not suggesting to bloat about our team's success or anything but let's respect this performance the way other top teams get respected rather than mocking them by sounding hypocritical as well as illogical.
 
MashAllah. What a quality century under pressure by Sarfraz Khan, saving India from a defeat. New Muslim superstar batsman from India. Needs chances in ODI’s.
This is a great century and all Indians support him .

Wish Litton got such support from across the border though. But unfortunately scumbags will put him down at every opportunity and support mediocrities like Mosaddek ahead of him 😢

Wish deshis werent so obviously immoral
 
Very intriguing Test match, not least because of the weather.

The fact that some are even considering a record Indian win shows how much they rate this team in their hearts , even if they absolutely hate to admit it.

What a team :inti
 
Drawing in alien conditions vs top teams is a fine achievement.

We are not suggesting to bloat about our team's success or anything but let's respect this performance the way other top teams get respected rather than mocking them by sounding hypocritical as well as illogical.
You were the one who started talking about W/L ratios and now you are getting defensive after some critical dissection?

This is the problem with you Indian fans. You are not a fan of honest appraisal of your team. You love to live in your own bubble and if someone bursts that bubble you don’t like it.
 
Rain is saving NZ for real embarassment now .

Only one of the greatest test team of history can even think of winning a test after getting 46 all out in 1st innings.
Classic Indian behavior, pretending that the world revolves around them.

Teams have recovered from poor first innings totals before. India won’t be the first one.

For example, in 2012, Pakistan won a Test after being shot for 99 in 44 overs in good batting conditions against arguably the greatest English side of the last 50 years that pounded India in India.

So the difference between being one of the greatest teams in history and being a normal team is just……53 runs?
 
You were the one who started talking about W/L ratios and now you are getting defensive after some critical dissection?

This is the problem with you Indian fans. You are not a fan of honest appraisal of your team. You love to live in your own bubble and if someone bursts that bubble you don’t like it.
what bubble bro ? we celebrate drawn series vs teams who usually white wash visiting teams ,as we know our bowlers and allrounders are carrying 3 over the hill champs rohit kohli bkl .

imagine carrying 3 dibba players and still managing to draw series vs tough teams in their own yards ...

its u guys who love to keep on hating on whatever we do. its obvious u cant even win on ur own soils unless u make akhada pitches and play 4 spinners 😂 vs goras.

so tell me who's in a bubble ? a hateful one that too

and let this post stay ... dont delete it
 
Classic Indian behavior, pretending that the world revolves around them.

Teams have recovered from poor first innings totals before. India won’t be the first one.

For example, in 2012, Pakistan won a Test after being shot for 99 in 44 overs in good batting conditions against arguably the greatest English side of the last 50 years that pounded India in India.

So the difference between being one of the greatest teams in history and being a normal team is just……53 runs?
difference is what the teams did before and after that test.

India went on to stay undefeated in India since then to any team that toured here. We won most of matches on all kinds of pitches( in india ) ,and whatever we won abroad was on different wickets, and didnt need to resort to akhada pitches until our big 3 rohit kohli bkl went off rails.

Made it to WTC finals twice ..

While world knows its been 4 years since Pakistan won anything at home. and less i say about ur wtc performances
 
"I'm in indiranagar which is 5km from the ground and rain has stopped here." Madhavan, this I can believe.

Prasanna: "it's down to a very mild drizzle and sun seems to be coming out - update from the ground"
 
So what should we do with this information?

Besides, W/L ratio doesn’t reflect your failure to win a Test series in England or New Zealand or South Africa which you should have managed in this period but unfortunately for India, they just don’t have the talent.

It is only Australia that made them look good outside India/Asia.

What should you do? Read the data and understand what it means, India wins most matches it plays.

What does that mean...

That means that the players have the talent to win matches....

Series is just a abstraction over the real contest. Wining individual matches.
 
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Classic Indian behavior, pretending that the world revolves around them.

Teams have recovered from poor first innings totals before. India won’t be the first one.

For example, in 2012, Pakistan won a Test after being shot for 99 in 44 overs in good batting conditions against arguably the greatest English side of the last 50 years that pounded India in India.

So the difference between being one of the greatest teams in history and being a normal team is just……53 runs?

Pakistan were all out for 99 and England scored pnly 141 runs in first innings

Here NZ lead were 367 .

Difference is one team is losing test matches at home or away like minnows .
 
I really hate this rain now.

We were looking solid before rain arrival .

Now not enough time to score another 250 runs to get a result .

Rain is saving NZ
 
For those arguing above.. 46 all out is not the issue... coming back from an innings deficit of 356 in the first innings is what should be discussed.

I suspect there might not be any more play today... the drizzle look persistent.
 
Pakistan were all out for 99 and England scored pnly 141 runs in first innings

Here NZ lead were 367 .

Difference is one team is losing test matches at home or away like minnows .
Who asked India to not bowl NZ cheaply in the first innings?

I repeat - the difference between being one of the greatest teams in history and being a normal team is just……53 runs?
 
difference is what the teams did before and after that test.

India went on to stay undefeated in India since then to any team that toured here. We won most of matches on all kinds of pitches( in india ) ,and whatever we won abroad was on different wickets, and didnt need to resort to akhada pitches until our big 3 rohit kohli bkl went off rails.

Made it to WTC finals twice ..

While world knows its been 4 years since Pakistan won anything at home. and less i say about ur wtc performances
None of this has anything to do with the statement that only one of the greatest teams of all time can recover from a very low first innings total.

You had to stop at made to the WTC final twice instead of saying that you won it twice or even once. That must have hurt.
 
None of this has anything to do with the statement that only one of the greatest teams of all time can recover from a very low first innings total.

You had to stop at made to the WTC final twice instead of saying that you won it twice or even once. That must have hurt.
u dont need greatness to recover from a shock innings here and there. many good teams do it once or twice and lay eggs in other matches and series


u need greatness to sustain some of that form to keeep WINNING and drawing some tests , staying undefeated across a period of time to be called a great team

Australia has done it , India has done it , Newzealand has done it. no one else has done it on home and abroad hence its these teams that come in wtc finals.

Yeah it hurts to stay no.2 but hell.... they did pummel most teams before losing in finals .. so its good
 
some decent news " Gooder news this time. Here is Ashish: "Here's the fourth umpire again, umbrella down this time as the rain stops. Ground staff coming in for the mop up work much to the delight of the crowd.""
 
Who asked India to not bowl NZ cheaply in the first innings?

I repeat - the difference between being one of the greatest teams in history and being a normal team is just……53 runs?
The difference is one team has record of most consecutive Test series wins at home - 18 series win

Now come in other thread to discuss more things .
 
India still have Rahul, Jadeja and Ashwin, who could add another 150 runs (if they bat well)...
 
This is a great century and all Indians support him .

Wish Litton got such support from across the border though. But unfortunately scumbags will put him down at every opportunity and support mediocrities like Mosaddek ahead of him 😢

Wish deshis werent so obviously immoral
Time for oldies to retire and players like Sarfraz get chances as he is a deserving quality younger player, must be in the ODI’s/LOI too. A country of over a billion people still relies on late 30 year olds in test and odi’s. Jeez.
 
Time for oldies to retire and players like Sarfraz get chances as he is a deserving quality younger player, must be in the ODI’s/LOI too. A country of over a billion people still relies on late 30 year olds in test and odi’s. Jeez.
There many batsmen who are better than him in ODI/T20 format, don't talk if you don't know.
 
1:35pm: Resumption at 1.50pm, informs Ashish. Tea at 3.30pm. We've lost 99 minutes, which equates to 24 overs. Timings for final session, given there's no more interruptions of course, are 3.50pm to 5.15pm
 
once rain stops, it doesn’t take long for game to start. Drainage system is very good in Bangalore.
 
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