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New Zealand fight back on Day 2 against Pakistan, 56/1 in second innings after limiting lead to 74

Dont know how many failures will hafeez be allowed this time , he has failed in 4 innings in a row now.
 
If azhar continues to perform like this then we may have to find alternatives for him but the likes of usman and saad ali are they ready?
 
Raja Danish said:
How do you guys rate Usman Salahuddin and Saad Ali for test cricket?
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Salahuddin is the last guy we want in our team, completely lacks the ability to attack. Saad Ali should be in the side, solid player who can play at a decent strike rate, also in good form coming off that A series
 
If Kiwis get Pakistan for 200 , they will be very pleased with that. 50 - 60 runs lead will not hurt Kiwis much
 
Raja Danish said:
If azhar continues to perform like this then we may have to find alternatives for him but the likes of usman and saad ali are they ready?
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Salahuddin is in contention for more than 5 years now , if he is not ready now he never will be.
 
I would rather invest in Babar or Haris as a number 3 than continue with Azhar there.
 
Mamoon said:
Boult is what we had hoped Amir would become.
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Boult is perhaps the most skilled bowler in world cricket at the moment apart from the deadly trundlers ( Philander and Abbas) and Anderson. If he had a bit more height and pace he would be up there with Rabada. Amir had that little extra pace and height and the natural ability, his ceiling was higher but now Boult is in another league in tests. In LOIs Amir still competes, in T20s he is superior.
 
Usman salahuddin follows azhar alis school of batting and does not believe in scoring runs quickly , saad ali has a better strike rate and is a stroke player.
 
angrypathan said:
Salahuddin is the last guy we want in our team, completely lacks the ability to attack. Saad Ali should be in the side, solid player who can play at a decent strike rate, also in good form coming off that A series
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Yes he is slow in the mould of azhar but is it not a worth a try to select him against south africa and play him at three in place of azhar as usman has a good defensive technique to negotiate the new ball and swing and pace of ngidi,rabada,steyn,philander? Because basically azhar and usman are similar type players but with azhar in horrible form averaging only 19 in 2018 so may be you can replace him with usman in South Africa tour if azhar doesnot performs well in this series
 
What about Fakhar as opener and Babar at 3? Or Barber as opener with Sarfraz as 3 and use Azhar in Sarfraz’s original position if PCB are unwilling to give Saad etc a go.
 
JibranAnsari said:
Usman salahuddin follows azhar alis school of batting and does not believe in scoring runs quickly , saad ali has a better strike rate and is a stroke player.
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Yes usman is a grinder and defensively very solid in technique and in places like south africa we will need him at no.3 position to safely negotiate the initial overs of new ball because azhar with the form he is in now he will fail to do so
 
Bhanja has to go, And if azhar is to play he has to bat as opener and do what he does and just take the shine off in SA even if he play like a tailender,, Fakhar to replace imam, his technique isn't ideal to survive there as well and ideally I would bat him in middle order, Harris is best equipped to play pace and swing and should be no 3 Bobby at 4 and Asad at 5 Saad Ali at 6 and sarf at 7 shadab at 8 fahim 9, abbas 10 and SSA at 11. no need for 4th pacers because he often get under bowled
 
JibranAnsari said:
If its upto me i would try saud shakeel , one should be able to enjoy watching batting.
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Yes he is the one to watch out for in the future decent technique and a good stroke maker. Him and haris will definitely improve the batting in tests.
 
Raja Danish said:
Yes usman is a grinder and defensively very solid in technique and in places like south africa we will need him at no.3 position to safely negotiate the initial overs of new ball because azhar with the form he is in now he will fail to do so
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Technically isnt as solid , has a gap between bat and pad and when its moving at high speed these things matter. Abid ali (34 years old) has the best technique in domestic cricket but definitely he is a late bloomer.
 
Raja Danish said:
Yes he is slow in the mould of azhar but is it not a worth a try to select him against south africa and play him at three in place of azhar as usman has a good defensive technique to negotiate the new ball and swing and pace of ngidi,rabada,steyn,philander? Because basically azhar and usman are similar type players but with azhar in horrible form averaging only 19 in 2018 so may be you can replace him with usman in South Africa tour if azhar doesnot performs well in this series
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Azhar is not the sort of player you'd want to replicate in South Africa, no matter how good Usman's defence is South Africa's pace attack will force a mistake and get him out, the problem being that he'll probably be in single digits when that happens. Would much rather have a stroke player like Saad who might actually have some runs on the board before getting out
 
Saad Ali should be higher up the pecking order. He has the same average as Usman( perhaps a little better) and scores at a much better SR. His highest FC score 250 something whereas Usman doesn't have a double hundred. He's also younger than Usman. Saad seems to beat or equal Usman in every single aspect.
 
Fakhar
Need a second opener(no option left for africa tour so likey imam)
Usman(if azhar doesnot come into form, he is averaging like 19 in 2018 which is very worrying and usman can play the role of grinder and with solid technique he can negotiate the initial burst of ngidi,rabada,steyn,philander)
Haris
Shafiq
Babar
Sarfraz
Hasan
Yasir
Shaheen
Abbas
Bench:
Saad ali
Azhar
fahim/yamin
Bilal asif
Amir/mir hamza etc
 
JibranAnsari said:
If umar akmal had a brain instead of nothing , he would be what babar is right now.
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He'd be better. His stroke making ability is much superior. But please think of his genetic condition which makes him gain fat from water.
 
Rameez is obsessed with the fact that Pakistan has bowled out teams the most in T20 format.
 
JibranAnsari said:
Technically isnt as solid , has a gap between bat and pad and when its moving at high speed these things matter. Abid ali (34 years old) has the best technique in domestic cricket but definitely he is a late bloomer.
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Bro abid ali has issues with his technique i saw him couple of times in domestic games
 
Shafiq owes pakistan a big 100 here but is looking more likely to throw his wicket away at the moment.
 
It would be nice if posters posted about the game rather than talking about dropping A and B. Let them play full series and then judge on their future. Not long ago Sarfraz was opted from dropping before that Babar from Tests and now we are being told Imam Azhar Ali, Bilal and Hafeez should be dropped. At this rate we should. Field only Pak A.
 
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Wagner getting ball to tail in here quite abit, nothing loose needed here from either batsmen.
 
Really dont understand the negative go slow batting in this inns like we are batting on some minefield of a pitch.
 
Raja Danish said:
Saw him in donestic games. Grinder and plays with straight bat
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Being a grinder doesn't mean he has a good technique or are solid, it just means he doesn't have the strokes.

I have seen him and his technique seems decent but doesn't seem to be suited to the bouncier conditions.

Investing in Saad Ali would be a better idea. He has a similar average compared to Usman and seems to have the strokes to be an actual impact player.
 
From now on, PAK needs to play a bit aggressive. Should cross 350 easily here, if Sarfraz can score some quickly.
 
Pak team needs to select Imran Nazir, Shahid Afridi Anwar Ali, Asif Ali, Kamran Akmal and Umar Akmal in the team to bring excitement to batting, results do not matter.
 
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If both these players can get 100s then we would be in control of the game.
 
The usual shafiq again. Gets bowled everytime he looks good. Just got lazy to play that shot.
 
Our batting making a hash of getting a decent lead here, lets see if the captain can get runs against a decent side here.
 
Got double minded :facepalm:

Nothing to take away from Boult though. That was a wonderful delivery and setup.
 
Really no point of Asad batting at 5 and scoring at 30-40. That's the job for a young player like Babar.

A 32 year old batsman with 50+ tests should be in the top 4 and getting big hundreds.
 
I don't see anything wrong in this pitch. Both teams have just batted horribly.

Hafeez was the big wicket for NZ. He would've taken the game away had he not gifted his wicket.
 
Yaar Sarfraz :facepalm:

250 looking distant now. Come on Babar take the team to 230.
 
Sarfraz is basically a specialist captain from what I've seen across formats.

Not that I follow every game, when I do check scorecards he usually doesn't contribute anything.

If he wasn't captain, he would have been dropped by now.
 
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