New Zealand Invitation XI v Pakistanis | Tour Match | Queenstown | Nov 18-20

[Inswinger]

There is absolutely no way we should go in with 5 bowlers. Our top order is already in shambles and the middle order is down to one man! We need some depth in our batting and for that we have to play 4 bowlers with Kamran in at #7.

 

[Afridi_Fan]

There is absolutely no way we should go in with 5 bowlers. Are top order is already in shambles and the middle order is down to one man! We need some depth in our batting and for that we have to play 4 bowlers with Kamran in at #7.

Totally Agreed.

 

[Apnacricket]

we just need 3 seamers in aamer, asif and gul. with 1 spinner- Saeed ajmal Attari.

 

[hashmist]

Its not about It depends on teams strengths and stability, and I don't think we have enough confidence in our batting at the moment. So I will be very surprise if any captain will go for 5 specialist bowlers. Just don't start shooting for that.

This is not meant to be an attack on MoYo, it is just a fact that he is not an outgoing and aggressive person/captain. In the end it goes back to the simple fact that in order to win a test you have to take 20 wickets. So as a captain if you are going for a win you need to have enough bowlers that can get you those 20 wickets, and playing in foreign conditions that usually takes 5 bowlers. But if you are going to pick 5 bowlers then you also need to have enough faith in yourself (as a batting captain) and your batsmen to play with only 5 specialist batsmen. Or you can play it safe, which a defensive minded captain usually does, and go for 6 specialist batsmen, but that usually means playing for a draw. Also, IMO, playing an allrounder in tests does not make much sense, as their weaknesses get exposed in longer version of the game.

I agree with you that our current batting form is not strong enough to go with only 5 specialist batsmen, but what is the point of playing 6 if that only gets you a draw? I would rather coach the batsmen and instill some confidence in them and tell them ahead of time that we are only going with 5 so each one has to make it count. But that requires motivational and interpersonal skills, and its been a long while since we had those qualities in a captain...IK was the last, may be the only one.

 

[Apnacricket]

Atm I think 3 seamers and 1 spinner is the perfect bowling combination.

 

[PAF]

Bowling combination should be like:

1) Mohammad Asif
2) Mohammad Aamer
3) Abdur Rauf
4) Saeed Ajmal
5) Fawad Alam (if necessary can bowl which will add some variety in the bowling department).

 

[hashmist]

So everyone agrees that Malik should be dropped? I say based alone on the shot he played in the 3rd ODI he should be dropped. He was either intentionally trying to underperform to undermine YK (which is treason IMO) or is completely out of form.

 

[pun500]

This is not meant to be an attack on MoYo, it is just a fact that he is not an outgoing and aggressive person/captain. In the end it goes back to the simple fact that in order to win a test you have to take 20 wickets. So as a captain if you are going for a win you need to have enough bowlers that can get you those 20 wickets, and playing in foreign conditions that usually takes 5 bowlers. But if you are going to pick 5 bowlers then you also need to have enough faith in yourself (as a batting captain) and your batsmen to play with only 5 specialist batsmen. Or you can play it safe, which a defensive minded captain usually does, and go for 6 specialist batsmen, but that usually means playing for a draw. Also, IMO, playing an allrounder in tests does not make much sense, as their weaknesses get exposed in longer version of the game.

I agree with you that our current batting form is not strong enough to go with only 5 specialist batsmen, but what is the point of playing 6 if that only gets you a draw? I would rather coach the batsmen and instill some confidence in them and tell them ahead of time that we are only going with 5 so each one has to make it count. But that requires motivational and interpersonal skills, and its been a long while since we had those qualities in a captain...IK was the last, may be the only one.

5 bowlers if the wicket is flat if the wicket aids bowlers 4 should be enough to do the job but that cushion of one extra bat is essential to stop collapses.

pak could use all the batting it can muster up.
Openers would probably fail and you can expect bowlers to score runs (ajmal , asif aamer and other one) . so that extra bat is reqd.

 

[sehban]

My Line UP

Salman Butt
Khurram Manzoor
Imran Farhat
Mohammad Yousuf
Fawad Alam
Umar Akmal
Kamran Akmal
Yasir Arafat/ Umar Gul/ Abdur Rauf
Mohammad Aamer
Mohammad asif
Saeed Ajmal

 

[Seen Sheen]

5 bowlers if the wicket is flat if the wicket aids bowlers 4 should be enough to do the job but that cushion of one extra bat is essential to stop collapses.

pak could use all the batting it can muster up.
Openers would probably fail and you can expect bowlers to score runs (ajmal , asif aamer and other one) . so that extra bat is reqd.

the fear of collapses not gonna help the team at all..no matter how green a pitch you face,never disturb the composition of your team..i-e 4 bowlers,and 6 batsmen and a keeper..if you play defensive and include an extra batsman,more often than not you'll struggle to win test matches..

 

[srh]

Anywhere there is ball to ball commentry of this match?

 

[Afridi_Fan]

Damn it started and I am too busy in Football Qualifiers where Ireland have just been robbed.

 

[Afridi_Fan]

Imran Farhat is into double figures.

That is some achievement young man.

 

[iHammad]

Fawad Alam not out 8 20 35 1 0

 

[Afridi_Fan]

OMG I don't believe it, Farhat goes to 15.

 

[Afridi_Fan]

The guy is giving me heart attacks here, he moves to 16.

 

[iHammad]

Imran Farhat is into double figures.

That is some achievement young man.

What time is it in Quetta man?

 

[Afridi_Fan]

Another amazing stat is the partnership is 17.

 

[Afridi_Fan]

What time is it in Quetta man?

3:23 am in the night.

 

[iHammad]

3:23 am in the night.

aur aap soo nahin rahay?!

It's 5:24 pm here in Canada and I have just been faarigh from homework

 

[Afridi_Fan]

aur aap soo nahin rahay?!

It's 5:24 pm here in Canada and I have just been faarigh from homework

Sooney key liye neend aani chahiye. Home work haan?

Whats your age?

 

[iHammad]

Sooney key liye neend aani chahiye. Home work haan?

Whats your age?

Kya matlab?

Age is 13

 

[Afridi_Fan]

goes to double figures

 

[Afridi_Fan]

Kya matlab?

Age is 13

Matlab buhut bara hai kis ka, well you can say simply I am insomanic.

Sweet age, care free. Enjoy it.

 

[Ali Raja]

hmm where are you following the match? cricinfo isnt updating.

 

[iHammad]

takes a single.


We seriously need a better smiley for Fawad.

 

[Afridi_Fan]

hmm where are you following the match? cricinfo isnt updating.

http://scoring.blackcaps.co.nz/livescoring/match634/scorecard.aspx

There you go

 

[iHammad]

single for Farhat.

 

[Afridi_Fan]

takes a single.


We seriously need a better smiley for Fawad.

)

 

[iHammad]

I am looking forward to see and :umarakmal bat.

But I am also hoping these two batsmen don't get out and make big scores so that bhanja doesn't get a chance!

 

[Ali Raja]

thanx

 

[iHammad]

Pakistanis 33/1 17.0 overs.

Imran Farhat 18(53)*
Fawad Alam 11(30)*

 

[saeed-sohail]

33/1 farhat 18 fawad 11.

 

[iHammad]

Run Rate: 1.94
Last Over Total Runs: 1
Last Boundary: 10.1
Best Over Total Runs: 4
Current Partnership: 22 (67)

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Imran Farhat in double figures and secondly playing such a slow innings LOL

Definitely trying hard to cement atleast 1 opener's slot!

 

[Afridi_Fan]

Imran Farhat in double figures and secondly playing such a slow innings LOL

Definitely trying hard to cement atleast 1 opener's slot!

And he has the potential to do that, if he doesn't decide to hit every short ball out of the park.

 

[iHammad]

Farhat

 

[Afridi_Fan]

Farhat

 

[Afridi_Fan]

Farhat has gone past 20.

 

[On_the_up]

Farhat gets boundary no 3 of the inns to move on to 22

 

[iHammad]

38/1

 

[saeed-sohail]

[QUOTE =iHammad]I am looking forward to see and :umarakmal bat.

But I am also hoping these two batsmen don't get out and make big scores so that bhanja doesn't get a chance! [/QUOTE]
I am just hoping fawad and Umar do enough or we will have to suffer from Faisal zardari Iqbal buttoh.

 

[Ali Raja]

farhat means business )

 

[Afridi_Fan]

And the run rate goes flying past 2.

 

[iHammad]

Farhat

 

[Afridi_Fan]

Another Farhat.

 

[Afridi_Fan]

farhat goes past his quarter century.

Take a bow son.

 

[saeed-sohail]

For some reason I have got a good feeling for this tour.

 

[iHammad]

give Fawad the strike!!!!!!!!!

 

[Afridi_Fan]

For some reason I have got a good feeling for this tour.

See, farhat makes people change their feelings with a Quarter Century.

 

[iHammad]

For some reason I have got a good feeling for this tour.

Same here. But probably because the timings for me and people in Canada for this tour are awesome

Day starts at 5 PM, that is when i am faarigh from khaana, namaz, homework.

 

[Poison]

Farhat's not doing his chances any harm by this innings. If he performs theres no reason he shouldn't be selected in the side.

 

[iHammad]

single for Fawad.

 

[Ali Raja]

how do i get a flag on the side of my name?

 

[Knightrider]

I hate Faisal Iqbal the safarshi player

 

[iHammad]

Farhat another

 

[Afridi_Fan]

farhat on fire

 

[iHammad]

how do i get a flag on the side of my name?

User CP > Profile > Scroll Down > Select Flag of your Country

 

[Afridi_Fan]

how do i get a flag on the side of my name?

Hum hain na, sad kion hotey ho?

Go to user CP on the top right beside search. Then go to profile and select your country flag. If want a Pakistan flag select PK.

 

[iHammad]

Farhat 30 (69)*

 

[saeed-sohail]

Aur kya khel gae hain Imran farhat point aur galli ke darmyan se char runs.

 

[Ali Raja]

thanx

 

[Afridi_Fan]

Farhat on 30

 

[iHammad]

47/1 20 overs.

 

[Afridi_Fan]

Aur kya khel gae hain Imran farhat point aur galli ke darmyan se char runs.

Is there radio commentry, or you are dreaming?

 

[Afridi_Fan]

 

[iHammad]

Aur kya khel gae hain Imran farhat point aur galli ke darmyan se char runs.

aapko kaisay pata?
aap kya Queensland kay ground main baithay hain?

) )

 

[Ali Raja]

haha, he is just imaging stuff i think

 

[Afridi_Fan]

50 up for Pakistan and we just have lost one wicket.

 

[iHammad]

3 more runs for Fawad

 

[Afridi_Fan]

3 more runs. Pakistan starting to play like T20 here.

 

[Ali Raja]

do u think fawad will get a chance to bat at 3 in the 1st test?

 

[Afridi_Fan]

Single to Farhat, he breaks the 30 barrier.

 

[Afridi_Fan]

do u think fawad will get a chance to bat at 3 in the 1st test?

there is a strong chance of that.

 

[Afridi_Fan]

Partnership 44

 

[Ali Raja]

i hope so, dont want to see malkoo at nr 3

 

[iHammad]

do u think fawad will get a chance to bat at 3 in the 1st test?

I think he won't as Mohammad Yousuf or Malik will be 1 down, but he should definetely get a chance.

 

[Afridi_Fan]

Run Rate has jumped to 2.62

 

[farsiddiqui]

Fawad hits a four. SR better than 50 now.

 

[Gollum]

do u think fawad will get a chance to bat at 3 in the 1st test?

With Yousuf coming at #4, its either Bhanja or Fawad. My vote goes to Fawad.