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New Zealand v Sri Lanka | 2nd Test | Hamilton | Dec 18-22 2015 | Match Thread

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NZ finally win a toss and will bowl first on a green top.

Unchanged side as expected by NZ.
 
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I haven't seen a green wicket like this in years lol...

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It might seam and swing a bit too much resulting in bat missing the ball instead of nicking it.

But knowing Boult and Southee, they might destroy Lanka too.
 
leatherface58 said:
It might seam and swing a bit too much resulting in bat missing the ball instead of nicking it.

But knowing Boult and Southee, they might destroy Lanka too.
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Hoping to knock them over in 2 sessions, but i get the feeling SL will do well.

Our bowlers haven't really had the opportunity to bowl in these conditions before and as you've said, the ball may do too much.
 
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Hopefully Sri Lankan pacers do well too. Pradeep should be pretty successful in this test as he seams it around.
 
Aman said:
Use to somewhat getting away with such clumsy mistakes.
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I thought maybe Kiwis and Aussies got bored of playing crappy opposition in W.I and SL and decide to play each other earlier then scheduled ;)
 
aloo paratha said:
Hopefully Sri Lankan pacers do well too. Pradeep should be pretty successful in this test as he seams it around.
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Green wicket will mean win toss and bowl 1st and try and do as much damage before wicket settles down if it ever does.
 
Haven't seen a wicket this green since my club cricket days.
 
dont forget that all grass does is promote seam movement and keep the ball nicer for longer, obviously has no bearing on movement through the air(initially anyway). i've seen green pitches in new zealand play pretty flat.
 
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Good stuff from SL. This shouldn't be too different from the pitches they've been playing on at home.
 
Rahat is more skilled than both of these trundlers. Only if he had something between his ears.
 
Boult has looked quite ordinary since his return.

SL openers got off to a good start.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Hope NZC cook this stuff for Asif and Amir the following year ;-)
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We're preparing the same wickets for Australia (provided Hesson and McCullum get what they want), so don't worry about Pakistan.

Leaving grass on the wickets is the only way to get a result in NZ.
 
There's quite a bit of bounce in this pitch, making it quite difficult to get lbws.
 
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Aman said:
Boult has looked quite ordinary since his return.

SL openers got off to a good start.
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Boult was a different bowler when he was fast medium. Now he is medium fast. If it wasn't knee or back injury than he can regain his pace and mojo again.
 
Poor bowling by Boult.

NZ need a better bowler as 3rd seamer than Bracewell.What are the options [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] ?
 
cricketjoshila said:
Poor bowling by Boult.

NZ need a better bowler as 3rd seamer than Bracewell.What are the options [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] ?
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From what I know, it's between Bracewell and Henry for the 3rd seamer spot. Bracewell also bowled quite well in Australia, so he should be given a series or two at least before being discarded.
 
Aman said:
From what I know, it's between Bracewell and Henry for the 3rd seamer spot. Bracewell also bowled quite well in Australia, so he should be given a series or two at least before being discarded.
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What about Wagner?
 
Aman said:
From what I know, it's between Bracewell and Henry for the 3rd seamer spot. Bracewell also bowled quite well in Australia, so he should be given a series or two at least before being discarded.
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Mark Gillespie has retired ? How old is he ?
Like Boult Henry has also lost pace and efficacy. No more Is he a bowler in he mould of Shane bond now. Wonder why he lost pace.
 
Belawal2014 said:
Lol are they playing on turf?
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Before the game, curator saw all the grass on the pitch he had to get rid off and was feeling lazy so was prob like, "**** it".

But tbh SL aren't doing too badly here, liking the attacking approach.
 
SL 100/2 at Lunch on a green wicket on day 1. Am I seeing things?
 
Excellent innings by Chandimal so far. The other guy is looking uncomfortable but hanging in there. :fawad
 
Suleiman said:
Before the game, curator saw all the grass on the pitch he had to get rid off and was feeling lazy so was prob like, "**** it".

But tbh SL aren't doing too badly here, liking the attacking approach.
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Serves NZ right. They probably thought they would roll SL over by lunch.
 
Our bowlers are in horrible touch, they can't even roll the SL's on a green top (no disrespect SL fans, you've done well).

The Aussies are going to slaughter us.
 
People were calling me criminally insane for "overrating" Sri Lanka.

Hate to say "told you so"

But... told you so :afridi

3rd greatest cricketing mind after Malik and Tanvir :misbah
 
Suleiman said:
People were calling me criminally insane for "overrating" Sri Lanka.

Hate to say "told you so"

But... told you so :afridi

3rd greatest cricketing mind after Malik and Tanvir :misbah
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If we bowl like this, even Zimbabwe would be able to score runs.

On green tops you need to keep it simple, we haven't been able to build any pressure and have been offering far too many boundary deliveries.
 
Aman said:
If we bowl like this, even Zimbabwe would be able to score runs.

On green tops you need to keep it simple, we haven't been able to build any pressure and have been offering far too many boundary deliveries.
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Seriously speaking, I think they took the pitch for granted. An "out there" pitch like this might psychologically affect the batsman but it affects the bowler too who think they have it easy now because the pitch will dance to their tune. Look at the number of wides already, 12, usually expect more discipline from New Zealand.

Or it could be that they're just getting used to it after coming back from Aus, doubt it. Either way don't think it's something to fret over too much, you guys got the ingredients for a good test attack, off color today, will chalk it up as just a bad day at the office.
 
Aman said:
If we bowl like this, even Zimbabwe would be able to score runs.

On green tops you need to keep it simple, we haven't been able to build any pressure and have been offering far too many boundary deliveries.
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It's easy to ignore but they are bowling badly because of the approach of the batsmen.
 
Mathews looking good as usual. Though I don't think he makes a good skipper.
 
Aman said:
Maybe the fans, certainly not the team. They've bowled terrible.
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They bowled terrible was the excuse used in Australia for the test series and the WC loss, how often can you use this excuse.
 
Gilly said:
They bowled terrible was the excuse used in Australia for the test series and the WC loss, how often can you use this excuse.
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You'd expect better from your pacers when you're given helpful wickets.

And yeah, they've been terrible for a while now.
 
rooster said:
It's easy to ignore but they are bowling badly because of the approach of the batsmen.
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The batsmen have been positive no doubt, but how difficult is it to bowl at a full of length and make full use of the conditions? We've been bowling all over the shop with no plan to get wickets or build pressure.
 
Suleiman said:
Seriously speaking, I think they took the pitch for granted. An "out there" pitch like this might psychologically affect the batsman but it affects the bowler too who think they have it easy now because the pitch will dance to their tune. Look at the number of wides already, 12, usually expect more discipline from New Zealand.

Or it could be that they're just getting used to it after coming back from Aus, doubt it. Either way don't think it's something to fret over too much, you guys got the ingredients for a good test attack, off color today, will chalk it up as just a bad day at the office.
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Nah, our attack was seriously over rated.

No better than the Indian attack on flat wickets, we're way too dependent on the new ball to get wickets... the only thing more embarrassing than that is the pace of our bowlers... all around 130-135.

Don't have much hope for our future, I expect us to settle at 5-6.
 
Aman said:
Nah, our attack was seriously over rated.

No better than the Indian attack on flat wickets, we're way too dependent on the new ball to get wickets... the only thing more embarrassing than that is the pace of our bowlers... all around 130-135.

Don't have much hope for our future, I expect us to settle at 5-6.
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Are there any actual fast bowlers in domestic?

I said this long ago that If NZ want to become a top 3 team, they're gonna need an enforcer in batting and bowling.
 
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Brilliant performance from lanka considering the pitch, lets hope their bowlers use the pitch better
 
Pakcricket89 said:
Brilliant performance from lanka considering the pitch, lets hope their bowlers use the pitch better
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They're gonna miss Prasad big time who could've actually won the game for them. This pitch is tailor made for his kind of bowling.
 
Belawal2014 said:
Who in your opinion among the current lot of fast bowlers from Asia are better than him?
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As far as opening the bowling is concerned, no one is better currently. Which is sad because dhamika isnt extraordinary himself.
 
Belawal2014 said:
Who in your opinion among the current lot of fast bowlers from Asia are better than him?
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For example, in Aus and SA, Wahab would be #1 on my list because of his bounce. In England and NZ, Rahat as brainless as he is would trouble any batsman because he's a natural swing bowler and he generally lands the seam perfectly so he'd seam the ball more often than not.

In India, again with the new SG ball, he'd cause trouble as well and when the ball starts reversing Wahab becomes a real threat because of that pronounced seam. Yadav and Shami as well.

SL has a variety of pitches and Wahab has generally done well there. Rahat exploited the conditions as well.

Prasad could be a handful anywhere except Bangladesh or UAE but he needs assistance from the pitch and if there is, he becomes a major player. He's not an enforcer or out and out wicket taker but that probing length and the lack of quality opening bowlers would make me incline towards having him first on my list on such pitches.
 
Pretty mediocre bowling peformance from Kiwis on a wicket offering something for the bowlers, however the late wickets at end of the day will make it their day. Alot of SL batsmen got starts but didnt go on, chandimal looked good today before he got out.

Matthews will need to get a ton on day 2 to keep SL in he game now
 
If this is a typical NZ wicket, it's only going to get easier to bat from here on.
 
So, New Zealand have lost four wickets for just a hundred runs now;

Will be interesting to see what Brendon McCullum does today - although in honesty I don't see him scoring much as there are odds of him failing whenever there is a hint of pressure on him.

Also his defensive game isn't that strong to survive for a longer period of time - I will be happy if he scores though as I'm supporting New Zealand over Sri Lanka.
 
this idiot bowler -_________-

Hope he didn't cost SL the game. Always these touring sides make some stupid error drop catch or no ball, and bam, home side wins.
 
... so as I predicted; 18(54).

More likely than not McCullum would have failed - Kane Williamson should have done better though.
 
Kiwis needs to be wary about preparing greentops for Australia.

Their batting (with the exception of Williamson) doesn't seem to be much better than Australia's
 
Convict said:
Kiwis needs to be wary about preparing greentops for Australia.

Their batting (with the exception of Williamson) doesn't seem to be much better than Australia's
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And there bowling looks toothless too nowadays. Boult has lost his venom not sure why though. Maybe unfit or just lost of some form/rhythm?
 
Anfield said:
And there bowling looks toothless too nowadays. Boult has lost his venom not sure why though. Maybe unfit or just lost of some form/rhythm?
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Boult's visibly lost a fair bit of pace since his injury.
 
Top 3 are to blame for this mess, 3 wickets given away by slogging/falling into an obvious trap.

Expected better from KW and Latham.
 
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