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World ODI XI as of today (Based on last 2 years numbers)

Warner (64 @ 108)
Guptill (64 @ 103)
Kohli* (58 @ 95)
du Plessis (61 @ 92)
de Villiers (64 @ 111)
Buttler+ (50 @ 130)
Shakib (33 @ 89 & bowling ave 27 ER 4.83)
Starc (19 ER 4.68)
Hazelwood (24 ER 4.61)
Boult (22 ER 5.15)
Tahir (28 ER 4.91)


de Kock just misses out, Guptill has been better as an opener in the last 2 years and Buttler better as a keeper.

Stokes hasn't been good enough with the ball to make it

What's yours?
 
Can't argue with this team, as far as the last two years go.
 
Can't argue with this team, as far as the last two years go.

Well last two years was just a guide, I guess I was primarily meaning the best world XI if you were selecting it today. I always think 24 months is a good guide for a world XI, with some exceptions.
 
Well last two years was just a guide, I guess I was primarily meaning the best world XI if you were selecting it today. I always think 24 months is a good guide for a world XI, with some exceptions.

Either you want people to pick players based on their form over the last two years, or you want people to pick any current player based on their performances during their peak or their overall record. The answers would differ depending on what you from this thread.
 
Either you want people to pick players based on their form over the last two years, or you want people to pick any current player based on their performances during their peak or their overall record. The answers would differ depending on what you from this thread.

I want people to provide their best ODI XIs assuming a match was being played tomorrow, based on whatever they decide is the best criteria for doing so. For me, I put a large weighting on the last 24 months.
 
Seems spot on, can't think of anyone that's missing.
 
World ODI XI as of today (Based on last 2 years numbers)

Warner (64 @ 108)
Guptill (64 @ 103)
Kohli* (58 @ 95)
du Plessis (61 @ 92)
de Villiers (64 @ 111)
Buttler+ (50 @ 130)
Shakib (33 @ 89 & bowling ave 27 ER 4.83)
Starc (19 ER 4.68)
Hazelwood (24 ER 4.61)
Boult (22 ER 5.15)
Tahir (28 ER 4.91)


de Kock just misses out, Guptill has been better as an opener in the last 2 years and Buttler better as a keeper.

Stokes hasn't been good enough with the ball to make it

What's yours?

Almost same. Awesome team.but lack of other all rounder.

Can't argue with this team, as far as the last two years go.

Seems spot on, can't think of anyone that's missing.

IMO Shakib is the weak link - he would make it into an Asian XI team but not a World XI squad.

I would place Stokes or Andre Russel in place of him.
 
World ODI XI as of today (Based on last 2 years numbers)

Warner (64 @ 108)
Guptill (64 @ 103)
Kohli* (58 @ 95)
du Plessis (61 @ 92)
de Villiers (64 @ 111)
Buttler+ (50 @ 130)
Shakib (33 @ 89 & bowling ave 27 ER 4.83)
Starc (19 ER 4.68)
Hazelwood (24 ER 4.61)
Boult (22 ER 5.15)
Tahir (28 ER 4.91)


de Kock just misses out, Guptill has been better as an opener in the last 2 years and Buttler better as a keeper.

Stokes hasn't been good enough with the ball to make it

What's yours?

Maybe Mitch Marsh for Shakib.
 
I will have Smith over Faf in ODIs. Smith has played some really clutch ODI knocks in the last 2 years.
 
I've put greater emphasis against the top 7 nations and also taken into account performances away from home. It's pointless selecting a side that will be limited in certain conditions.

I assume assume the two year period is as of 2nd March 2015.

QdK
Warner
Faf
AB
Root
Butler
Stokes
Starc
Hazelwood
Boult
Tahir

This is a gun of a team, with all basis covered . If the pitch is flat Warner and QdK can decimate any attack, with AB, Butler and. Stokes down the order as well. If it's got lateral movement or pace AB, Faf and Root can weather the storm until the pitch settles. In a slow turner QdK, AB and Root can rotate strike and accelerate later on.
The bowling looks good, wanted Faulkner ahead of Stokes for the all rounder spot but he hasn't been playing much over the last two years. Anyhow Stokes is a superior bat.
 
Faf isn't good enough to hold a candle to Kohli yet he makes the team at number 3 at the latter's expense. Oh dear me :91:

Do us all a favour and just name the SA XI as your World XI.
 
Warner
QdK +
Kohli *
Smith
de Villiers
Buttler
Stokes
Starc
Boult
Hazlewood
Tahir

Root, Guptill, Faf, Shakib and Rabada unlucky to miss out.
 
World XI needs a solid finisher who could close off close games while chasing.

Butler and Stokes aren't good enough for that.They are audacious strikers who can hit regular 30 ball 60/70 but not close off pressure chases.

AB is better than those two but still not reliable enough.

Shakib is possibly the one I will go for or maybe Faulkner or even Chris Morris to strengthen the bowling instead of one of the either two.

Just not convinced with a combination of de Villiers/ Butler/ Stokes...
 
IMO Shakib is the weak link - he would make it into an Asian XI team but not a World XI squad.

I would place Stokes or Andre Russel in place of him.

The weak link with 35 average with bat and 28 average with ball?
 
Instead of just looking at the averages, it's better to look at the standard deviation also. While Guptill may have a good average, I can bet his standard deviation would be way high than De Kock. It would reveal how inconsistent Guptill is.
 
I want people to provide their best ODI XIs assuming a match was being played tomorrow, based on whatever they decide is the best criteria for doing so. For me, I put a large weighting on the last 24 months.

Okay, then this would be my lineup, picking the best players of this generation:

1) Hashim Amla - Second best ODI opener of all time, future ATG.
2) Quinton de Kock - Future ATG.
3) Virat Kohli - One of the best chasers ever, future ATG.
4) AB de Villiers - The second best ODI batsman ever, bonafide ATG.
5) Yuvraj Singh - Impactful, crunch batsman who can also bowl.
6) MS Dhoni (c) (wk) - Second best finisher of all time, ATG and a great captain.
7) Shakib ul Hasan - Underrated performer who has been consistent with bat and ball.
8) Mitchell Starc - Future ATG.
9) Kagiso Rabada - Future ATG.
10) Trent Boult - A very good swing bowler who offers that left arm variation as well.
11) Imran Tahir - Fantastic LOI spinner and a match-winner on his day.

Notes:

- That opening partnership is one of the best of all time, and seeing that they already bat together, you wouldn't want to break that up.
- The Saffers would help set mammoth scores, the Indians would help chase down anything.
- That bowling attack has everything you would need. Pace, accuracy, bounce, yorkers, leg-spin, googly, off-spin, control, etc.
- The 2010s have been especially poor for the Pakistani ODI team.
 
Warner
De Kock(w/k)
Kohli(c)
Smith
ABD
Butler
Stokes
Starc
Hazle
Tahir
Boult

Reserves: Guptill, Root, Rabada, Morris..
 
De Kock
Guptill
Warner
Kohli
De Villiers
Dhoni/Butler
Stokes/Russell
Narine
Starc
Boult
Tahir

This would be my 11 if I had to choose. Only thing I'm not certain is number 6 and 7. So put 2 names who I am stuck between at that number.
 
I'd take Tahir out and put Ashwin in - Ashwin can bat better and I think is a much more intelligent bowler than Tahir
 
I won't go by pure statistics as the OP so I'll go with the following:

Warner
De Kock (wk)
Kohli (c)
Du Plessis
De Villiers
Stokes
Shakib
Starc
Rabada
Boult
Tahir
 
I'd take Tahir out and put Ashwin in - Ashwin can bat better and I think is a much more intelligent bowler than Tahir

Then take jadeja...he can bat far better than ashwin and can also bowl almost same like him
 
I'd take Tahir out and put Ashwin in - Ashwin can bat better and I think is a much more intelligent bowler than Tahir

You are confusing odis with tests.

Tahir avgs 22-23 in odis while Ashwin avgs 32 with ball and merely 17 with bat and isn't a specialist striker either for latter overs.
 
You are confusing odis with tests.

Tahir avgs 22-23 in odis while Ashwin avgs 32 with ball and merely 17 with bat and isn't a specialist striker either for latter overs.[/QUOTE

In a close game , let's say 9 wickets down , I'd bet on Ashwin to get a team home more than Tahir.
In terms of bowling , I just dont feel very convinced with Tahir
 
Then take jadeja...he can bat far better than ashwin and can also bowl almost same like him

In terms of Bowling Jadeja is far behind Ashwin , Jadeja may look as good as Ashwin in Indian pitches but outside of India - I'd say Ashwin would be better than Jadeja
 
In terms of Bowling Jadeja is far behind Ashwin , Jadeja may look as good as Ashwin in Indian pitches but outside of India - I'd say Ashwin would be better than Jadeja

Ashwin is garbage outside home....Jadeja was the superior bowler in that CT india has won

Tahir is easily better bowler than both of them but you mentioned about batting that's why jadeja came
 
Ashwin is garbage outside home....Jadeja was the superior bowler in that CT india has won

Tahir is easily better bowler than both of them but you mentioned about batting that's why jadeja came

I dunno man , I think I'd love to see India and SA face off and then see how Tahir does against India considering the Indian team sets the bar of playing quality spin. I just find Ashwin as a more settled intelligent bowler and Tahir all over the place
 
No Pakistani players. Just goes to show how behind Pakistan really has gone. From having players like Shoaib Akhtar etc to Anwar Ali. Just sad.
 
David Warner
Martin Guptill
Virat Kohli
Joe Root
Mushfiqur Rahim+
AB de Villiers
Shakib Al Hasan
Mitchell Starc
Trent Boult
Mustafizur Rahman
Imran Tahir
 
Lol at anyone saying ashwin over tahir in ODIs. Ashwin is an average and impactless Limited Overs bowler which is why he will never go down as an ATG cricketer.
 
Why are people mentioning Ashwin here? He's a completely average bowler in ODIs. Even Shakib is much better than him let alone Tahir.
 
Lol at anyone saying ashwin over tahir in ODIs. Ashwin is an average and impactless Limited Overs bowler which is why he will never go down as an ATG cricketer.

Are you implying that Tahir would retire as an ATG ?
 
Are you implying that Tahir would retire as an ATG ?

That was just an unrelated point I was making. Tahir can't be an ATG obviously because he isn't good enough in Tests but when it comes to LOIs tahir wipes the floor with ashwin
 
Well I understand your point that you find Tahir better than Ashwin in ODIs but wiping the floor is a bit of exaggeration.

For example - Stats for ODIs for Ashwin and Tahir in Neutral venues
R Ashwin - 2010-2015 24 153 38 19.12 0 43 4/25 23.46 0 9 0 -4.34
I Tahir - 2011-2016 21 21 8 3.00 0 45 5/45 17.80 1 6 0 -14.79

At neutral venues for fair comparison , they aren't that different however Ashwin is a much much better bat than Tahir and definitely can help finish a close game.
 
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