On this day, 11th January 1972 : East-Pakistan became the independent state of Bangladesh

[MenInG]

Another tough day for Pakistanis to remember and a day of joy for Bangladeshis!

"On 16 December 1971, Lt. Gen A. A. K. Niazi, CO of Pakistan Army forces located in East Pakistan signed the Instrument of Surrender and the nation of Bangla Desh ("Country of Bengal") was finally established the following day. At the time of surrender only a few countries had provided diplomatic recognition to the new nation. Over 90,000 Pakistani troops surrendered to the Indian forces making it the largest surrender since World War II.[66][67] The new country changed its name to Bangladesh on 11 January 1972 and became a parliamentary democracy under a constitution"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Bangladesh

 

[cricketjoshila]

Till this day i have wondered how a man winning 81 seats in a 300 seat Assembly could stop a man winning 160 seats from becoming PM, leading to a genocide and ultimately seccession of Bangladesh, and still be regarded as a cult hero.

 

[Pakistanian]

This was all avoidable if a United Bengal was formed, which was a serious proposition around the time of parition. Putting two distinct regions together that were a thousand miles a part was alway going to be a recipe for disaster.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

This was all avoidable if a United Bengal was formed, which was a serious proposition around the time of parition. Putting two distinct regions together that were a thousand miles a part was alway going to be a recipe for disaster.

Cop out. "it was fate".

Aren't the remaining portions of Pakistan drastically different like night and day. Pashtuns, Baloch are markedly different linguistically, culturally, and philosophically. Of course strife continues for those very reasons. But few people are talking about geographical distance.

Pakistan's leaders led the nation first to ghastly crimes and then defeat. Its unfortunate that so many even in 2018 lack the ability for a little introspection.

 

[Pakistanian]

Cop out. "it was fate".

Aren't the remaining portions of Pakistan drastically different like night and day. Pashtuns, Baloch are markedly different linguistically, culturally, and philosophically. Of course strife continues for those very reasons. But few people are talking about geographical distance.

Pakistan's leaders led the nation first to ghastly crimes and then defeat. Its unfortunate that so many even in 2018 lack the ability for a little introspection.

At least all the provinces of Pakistan are right next to each other and there have been migrations across different provinces for centuries. There was no historical migration to bengal, that said I don't condone the genocide that took place, it is something that I as a Pakistani-American am ashamed of but I was suggesting the idea of all this being avoidable if an unnatural union of two landmasses thousands of miles apart didn't happen.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

At least all the provinces of Pakistan are right next to each other and there have been migrations across different provinces for centuries. There was no historical migration to bengal, that said I don't condone the genocide that took place, it is something that I as a Pakistani-American am ashamed of but I was suggesting the idea of all this being avoidable if an unnatural union of two landmasses thousands of miles apart didn't happen.

Right. I'm just saying its too simplistic of an answer. Same with thinking cross-migration is a magic cure all. Bangladesh, despite its small size, is not as homogenous as most people assume. Google/wikipedia suggests that 98% of the population are ethnic "Bengali", but even that includes at least 3 distinct sub-groups (those who speak standard Bengali, Chittagonian, and Sylheti). There has been significant cross migration into Bengal over the past 1000 years as well. Perhaps not to the same scale as Pakistan, but its not like there was a magic wall around the borders of Bangladesh keeping Turks, Persians, and Afghans out. Far from it in fact.

 

[moghul]

Congratulation to India for a mission they planned and executed well.

 

[Abdul]

Good.

 

[PakLFC]

Does not bother me in the slightest. With a massive country like India in the middle such an arrangement of two Pakistan's being one country with a massive gap in between was never going to work. It was the most ridiculous arrangement ever.

 

[blue_champion]

Congratulation to India for a mission they planned and executed well.

Yeah right....maybe if the Pakistan government/ military treated the people of East Pakistan right and as equals things would have panned better?

North,East,West and South India have some if not a lot of cultural differences too and language barrier ... why can’t Pakistan plan to separate them?

Kashmir is a different mess. we can get into that later but it’s not even comparable to the whole Bangladesh war.

Stop blaming stuff on India and reflect the mistakes that were made.

 

[moghul]

Yeah right....maybe if the Pakistan government/ military treated the people of East Pakistan right and as equals things would have panned better?

North,East,West and South India have some if not a lot of cultural differences too and language barrier ... why can’t Pakistan plan to separate them?

Kashmir is a different mess. we can get into that later but it’s not even comparable to the whole Bangladesh war.

Stop blaming stuff on India and reflect the mistakes that were made.

Don;t tell me the "war of independence" was not funded and initiated by India. How come Kashmir is still occupied by India and BD got " independence" from Pakistan. I declare India the winner in this regard and Pakistan, Kashmiris and DB the losers.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Don;t tell me the "war of independence" was not funded and initiated by India. How come Kashmir is still occupied by India and BD got " independence" from Pakistan. I declare India the winner in this regard and Pakistan, Kashmiris and DB the losers.

Can you please answer my question in post no.2 ?

 

[Markhor]

Till this day i have wondered how a man winning 81 seats in a 300 seat Assembly could stop a man winning 160 seats from becoming PM, leading to a genocide and ultimately seccession of Bangladesh, and still be regarded as a cult hero.

Bhutto's double games and incendiary statements antagonised the Bengalis but people unfairly pin everything on him. Before the 1970 election, Yahya introduced the Legal Framework Order which gave him power to veto any constitution prepared by an elected assembly, demonstrating that the military wouldn't countenance handing over power to any party either in the Western or Eastern wing, that it perceived as undermining its interests no matter the verdict of the people.

Brigadier A.R. Siddiqi, the head of the ISPR, wrote "the right of a provincial party to frame the Constitution and run the national government for the next five years was not acceptable to the military high command." Simply put, the generals would not transfer power.

Whilst the talks between Mujib and Bhutto were deadlocked, the talks never broke down as per the common view but unilaterally abandoned on the orders of Yahya and his hawks in the NSC with their military action. The tragedy is that Mujib's conception of a free Bengali nation was not incompatible with something less than an independent, sovereign state. Awami League sent proposals even as late as March 1971 for a Confederation of Pakistan, allowing PPP to govern West Pakistan.

Ultimately, Yahya had decided on military action months before and behaved like his British predecessors in playing a game of divide and rule - pitting the PPP and the Awami League against each other whilst plans to roll in the tanks were drawn up. It was drunkard Yahya who postponed the National Assembly session for 3rd March 1971 and didn't announce an alternative date resulting in violent protests in the East. Bhutto obviously inflamed the situation by boycotting the NA session leading to an impression of collusion and that he was stalling at Yahya's behest.

There were honourable exceptions within the military - the governor of East Pakistan Admiral Ahsan and General Sahibzada Yaqub Khan, commander of the eastern forces, resigned as they rightly saw no good in abandoning political dialogue and pursuing the military course that proved disasterous.

 

[SandyB]

This was all avoidable if a United Bengal was formed, which was a serious proposition around the time of parition. Putting two distinct regions together that were a thousand miles a part was always going to be a recipe for disaster.

Does not bother me in the slightest. With a massive country like India in the middle such an arrangement of two Pakistan's being one country with a massive gap in between was never going to work. It was the most ridiculous arrangement ever.

This was one of the first proposed plans for pakistan . Imagine how this would've panned out )

Cop out. "it was fate".

Aren't the remaining portions of Pakistan drastically different like night and day. Pashtuns, Baloch are markedly different linguistically, culturally, and philosophically. Of course strife continues for those very reasons. But few people are talking about geographical distance.

Look at your neighbors dude, our situation was far far more complex. We made it work, you could've, but didnt . As south Indians we always complain about how North/Hindi centric India is, but that is nothing compared to how Punjab-centric pakistan has always been.

 

[Syed1]

Good for Bangladesh, they would have never achieved their potential in a united Pakistan because of superiority complex of West Pakistanis. Unfortunately rather than taking ownership of their new country and making it a modern progress secular Muslim state, Bangladesh became India's poodle. All is not lost, they have a fast growing economy and a population that is rapidly attaining literacy, hopefully they are able to get rid of the witch at the helm and achieve what Sheikh Mujib wanted to achieve.

 

[TM Riddle]

[MENTION=140459]SandyB[/MENTION] The state of Hyderabad was never going to be part of Pakistan considering the absolutely logistically nightmare it would have been for both the governments. Mountbatten already ruled out it's merger with Pakistan citing the same reasons. In fact , by the same token NWFP would have been part of India but since it wasn't feasible to do , this plan was quashed as well.

 

[Pakistanian]

This was one of the first proposed plans for pakistan . Imagine how this would've panned out )

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Look at your neighbors dude, our situation was far far more complex. We made it work, you could've, but didnt . As south Indians we always complain about how North/Hindi centric India is, but that is nothing compared to how Punjab-centric pakistan has always been.

Pakistan is far from Punjabi centric, you clearly haven't been there nor do you seem to know the Pakistani community.

 

[King-Misbah]

[MENTION=140459]SandyB[/MENTION] The state of Hyderabad was never going to be part of Pakistan considering the absolutely logistically nightmare it would have been for both the governments. Mountbatten already ruled out it's merger with Pakistan citing the same reasons. In fact , by the same token NWFP would have been part of India but since it wasn't feasible to do , this plan was quashed as well.

NWFP (KPK) voted in favour of Pakistan and not India.

 

[cricketjoshila]

NWFP (KPK) voted in favour of Pakistan and not India.

A election that was marred by violence and boycotted by the greatest Pashtun leader Bacha Khan.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Good for Bangladesh, they would have never achieved their potential in a united Pakistan because of superiority complex of West Pakistanis. Unfortunately rather than taking ownership of their new country and making it a modern progress secular Muslim state, Bangladesh became India's poodle. All is not lost, they have a fast growing economy and a population that is rapidly attaining literacy, hopefully they are able to get rid of the witch at the helm and achieve what Sheikh Mujib wanted to achieve.

On one hand you berate West Pakistanis for their arrogance and on the other hand you want BD to be what you want it to be, remove a leader you do not like and call her a witch.

 

[Varun]

This was one of the first proposed plans for pakistan . Imagine how this would've panned out )

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Pretty sure I'd be a prolific member of OsmanPassion.Net in another universe.

Good for Bangladesh, they would have never achieved their potential in a united Pakistan because of superiority complex of West Pakistanis. Unfortunately rather than taking ownership of their new country and making it a modern progress secular Muslim state, Bangladesh became India's poodle. All is not lost, they have a fast growing economy and a population that is rapidly attaining literacy, hopefully they are able to get rid of the witch at the helm and achieve what Sheikh Mujib wanted to achieve.

You do realize that Sheikh Hasina is Mujib's daughter?

 

[Pakistanian]

Pretty sure I'd be a prolific member of OsmanPassion.Net in another universe.



You do realize that Sheikh Hasina is Mujib's daughter?

So? He must be disappointed.

 

[Syed1]

Pretty sure I'd be a prolific member of OsmanPassion.Net in another universe.



You do realize that Sheikh Hasina is Mujib's daughter?

Same way Benazir was ZAB's daughter but her policies were very different.

 

[SandyB]

Pretty sure I'd be a prolific member of OsmanPassion.Net in another universe.

And I'd be living in the border of Maplistan ..

 

[Savak]

East Pakistan with India in the middle was never going to work out in the long run. Pakistani's just never shared much in common with the Bengali nation. In fact it was remarkable how much limelight Pakistan enjoyed from 1972 to 1977 under Zulfiqar Bhutta with world leaders coming and visiting Pakistan. People still remember Zulfiqar Bhutto and the fact he uplifted the confidence and morale of the nation after the events of 1971.

 

[moghul]

East Pakistan with India in the middle was never going to work out in the long run. Pakistani's just never shared much in common with the Bengali nation. In fact it was remarkable how much limelight Pakistan enjoyed from 1972 to 1977 under Zulfiqar Bhutta with world leaders coming and visiting Pakistan. People still remember Zulfiqar Bhutto and the fact he uplifted the confidence and morale of the nation after the events of 1971.

Yeah, after playing his dirty hand in breaking the country in two. He had no political future in united Pakistan.

 

[PakLFC]

This was one of the first proposed plans for pakistan . Imagine how this would've panned out )

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Look at your neighbors dude, our situation was far far more complex. We made it work, you could've, but didnt . As south Indians we always complain about how North/Hindi centric India is, but that is nothing compared to how Punjab-centric pakistan has always been.

You know nothing about Pak unless have visited. Punjab is the largest province in Pak so naturally dominates in many spheres of the country. You made what work? Delhi has no control over all those place s where insurgency is raging in India? If Pak is Punjab centric then India is Maharashtra centric and totally dominated by them.

 

[Varun]

You know nothing about Pak unless have visited. Punjab is the largest province in Pak so naturally dominates in many spheres of the country. You made what work? Delhi has no control over all those place s where insurgency is raging in India? If Pak is Punjab centric then India is Maharashtra centric and totally dominated by them.

Maharashtra has less than 8% of India's population. Pakistani Punjab has over 50% of Pakistan's population.

States like Maharashtra and Karnataka are so overrated anyway. You remove Mumbai and Bangalore respectively and you'll be left with an outfit floundering to even find a capital city a la Andhra Pradesh.

 

[PakLFC]

Maharashtra has less than 8% of India's population. Pakistani Punjab has over 50% of Pakistan's population.

States like Maharashtra and Karnataka are so overrated anyway. You remove Mumbai and Bangalore respectively and you'll be left with an outfit floundering to even find a capital city a la Andhra Pradesh.

That is coz Pak is a much small country, innit!. So if Punjab is over 50% Pak territory then obviously it will dominate, only natural. The Pathans however also play a crucial role in Pak entertainment and Sport as well. We do need to bring the Baluch and kabayali ilaaka as we call it in to the mainstream as well. Karachi still remains our economic hub. When people think India they think Mumbai, Maharashtra is Mumbai to the outside world.

 

[big_gamer007]

You know nothing about Pak unless have visited. Punjab is the largest province in Pak so naturally dominates in many spheres of the country. You made what work? Delhi has no control over all those place s where insurgency is raging in India? If Pak is Punjab centric then India is Maharashtra centric and totally dominated by them.

Haha nope not Maharashtra centric the Hindi belt is more important than Maharashtra in terms of getting into power and hence policies are sometimes made keeping in mind the sensitivities of the Hindi belt..

 

[PakLFC]

Haha nope not Maharashtra centric the Hindi belt is more important than Maharashtra in terms of getting into power and hence policies are sometimes made keeping in mind the sensitivities of the Hindi belt..

As far as I know Mumbai dominates India. It is where every Indian wants to be, there is nothing wrong with that. Every country has a city or region where everyone wants to be. In the USA there is NYC and England/UK has London.

 

[hafeezrocks]

That is coz Pak is a much small country, innit!. So if Punjab is over 50% Pak territory then obviously it will dominate, only natural. The Pathans however also play a crucial role in Pak entertainment and Sport as well. We do need to bring the Baluch and kabayali ilaaka as we call it in to the mainstream as well. Karachi still remains our economic hub. When people think India they think Mumbai, Maharashtra is Mumbai to the outside world.

Agree just like UAE is all about Dubai for most of the World , I think it's mostly due to Bollywood and economic clout of Mumbai. Indians brag about having enormous diversity and thousands of cities and villages yet India's global knowledge is limited to one or two cities.

 

[big_gamer007]

As far as I know Mumbai dominates India. It is where every Indian wants to be, there is nothing wrong with that. Every country has a city or region where everyone wants to be. In the USA there is NYC and England/UK has London.

No Who told you every Indian wants to be in Mumbai? Only the ones who are pursuing career in Bollywood for obvious reasons want to settle in Mumbai..

Why would anyone else want to settle in Mumbai is beyond me.. Why would I live in a 2BHK when for the same price I can live in a lavish bungalow in Delhi? Mumbai is financial capital of India but isn’t the best place to live.. Personally I would prefer to live in hilly areas of Uttaranchal or Himachal on a farm and go to Delhi/Mumbai few times a year to meet relatives and stuff.. However I still haven’t earned enough to fulfil that dream..

 

[PakLFC]

No Who told you every Indian wants to be in Mumbai? Only the ones who are pursuing career in Bollywood for obvious reasons want to settle in Mumbai..

Why would anyone else want to settle in Mumbai is beyond me.. Why would I live in a 2BHK when for the same price I can live in a lavish bungalow in Delhi? Mumbai is financial capital of India but isn’t the best place to live.. Personally I would prefer to live in hilly areas of Uttaranchal or Himachal on a farm and go to Delhi/Mumbai few times a year to meet relatives and stuff.. However I still haven’t earned enough to fulfil that dream..

I don't know why you are so offended by Mumbai being your dominant city? It is the engine of your economy, it offers much more then Bollywood as well. Not saying there are not other cities like Bangalore or Delhi however Mumbai is the jewel in your crown. Every country has other places as well, Islamabad in Pak is much cleaner then Lahore as well despite the latter being seen as the heart of Punjab. You may not like Mumbai that is your personal choice.

 

[big_gamer007]

I don't know why you are so offended by Mumbai being your dominant city? It is the engine of your economy, it offers much more then Bollywood as well. Not saying there are not other cities like Bangalore or Delhi however Mumbai is the jewel in your crown. Every country has other places as well, Islamabad in Pak is much cleaner then Lahore as well despite the latter being seen as the heart of Punjab. You may not like Mumbai that is your personal choice.

I am not at all offended and what you say in this post is correct and I agree with it..

However your initial post was india is Maharashtra centric to which this discussion started which is not true because in India policies are made keeping in vote banks and Hindi belt offers most voters hence policies are made catering to that audience..

If by Maharashtra centric you meant India is globally recognised as Mumbai then I may agree with you but Maharashtra centric means policies are determined as per Maharashtra which is not true.

 

[PakLFC]

I am not at all offended and what you say in this post is correct and I agree with it..

However your initial post was india is Maharashtra centric to which this discussion started which is not true because in India policies are made keeping in vote banks and Hindi belt offers most voters hence policies are made catering to that audience..

If by Maharashtra centric you meant India is globally recognised as Mumbai then I may agree with you but Maharashtra centric means policies are determined as per Maharashtra which is not true.

I said that because you say Pak is Lahore centric. This is because Lahore is our biggest city and the home of Lollywood

 

[big_gamer007]

I said that because you say Pak is Lahore centric. This is because Lahore is our biggest city and the home of Lollywood

I didn’t say that some other poster said that, I don’t live in Pakistan so wouldn’t know what centric it is.. Probably someone living there can tell..

But yea I get your point, how can you someone take Lollywood seriously when it has the word LOL in it..

 

[SandyB]

I don't know why you are so offended by Mumbai being your dominant city? It is the engine of your economy, it offers much more then Bollywood as well. Not saying there are not other cities like Bangalore or Delhi however Mumbai is the jewel in your crown. Every country has other places as well, Islamabad in Pak is much cleaner then Lahore as well despite the latter being seen as the heart of Punjab. You may not like Mumbai that is your personal choice.

Mumbai is dominant in finances, but that too in the past decade or so is slowly being eroded. Modikaka has been very successful in poaching a lot of business to nearby cities and ports in Gujarat .

Though Maharashtra is the richest and fastest developing Indian state as of now, the Mumbai-dependency is slowly going down .

The worst example for a single Indian city pulling up a whole state would actually be Bangalore, where I live now.

 

[SandyB]

I said that because you say Pak is Lahore centric. This is because Lahore is our biggest city and the home of Lollywood

What is the origin of "Lollywood" ?

 

[CricketCartoons]

Though Maharashtra is the richest and fastest developing Indian state as of now, the Mumbai-dependency is slowly going down .

Richest state on which metric? And all the most when it comes to farmer suicides.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

This was all avoidable if a United Bengal was formed, which was a serious proposition around the time of parition. Putting two distinct regions together that were a thousand miles a part was alway going to be a recipe for disaster.

I still hope one day to see Bengal reunited and restored to it's former glory. The false fence dividing two people who are one and the same is ugly and unbecoming.

 

[PakLFC]

Mumbai is dominant in finances, but that too in the past decade or so is slowly being eroded. Modikaka has been very successful in poaching a lot of business to nearby cities and ports in Gujarat .

Though Maharashtra is the richest and fastest developing Indian state as of now, the Mumbai-dependency is slowly going down .

The worst example for a single Indian city pulling up a whole state would actually be Bangalore, where I live now.

That is all that matters for now.

 

[PakLFC]

What is the origin of "Lollywood" ?

Lahore. L for Lahore L for Lollywood. The rest of the word is just copying the American's like "Bollywood". B for what was then Bombay, should be renamed to Mollywood now

 

[SandyB]

Lahore. L for Lahore L for Lollywood. The rest of the word is just copying the American's like "Bollywood". B for what was then Bombay, should be renamed to Mollywood now

Actually there is already a "Mollywood" already in India, that in my Language - Malayalam + Bollywood

 

[MenInG]

Happy independence day to Bangladesh

 

[Dios]

Bangladesh's independence day is on 26 March.

 

[Giannis]

I think they chose the wrong name. Republic of Bengal would've been more accurate and less ethnocentric.

 

[ishtiaq_ctg]

Happy independence day to Bangladesh

26th of March, 1971.

 

[Napa]

No Who told you every Indian wants to be in Mumbai? Only the ones who are pursuing career in Bollywood for obvious reasons want to settle in Mumbai..

Why would anyone else want to settle in Mumbai is beyond me.. Why would I live in a 2BHK when for the same price I can live in a lavish bungalow in Delhi? Mumbai is financial capital of India but isn’t the best place to live.. Personally I would prefer to live in hilly areas of Uttaranchal or Himachal on a farm and go to Delhi/Mumbai few times a year to meet relatives and stuff.. However I still haven’t earned enough to fulfil that dream..

Let alone living in Mumbai, it is not even in my list of top 5 places I would like to visit when I am in India.

Lived there for a year. People were nice, like the rest of India, but too crowded and too expensive.

 

[Napa]

I don't know why you are so offended by Mumbai being your dominant city? It is the engine of your economy, it offers much more then Bollywood as well. Not saying there are not other cities like Bangalore or Delhi however Mumbai is the jewel in your crown. Every country has other places as well, Islamabad in Pak is much cleaner then Lahore as well despite the latter being seen as the heart of Punjab. You may not like Mumbai that is your personal choice.

There is no need to pontificate about a subject you have little knowledge about. Mumbai has done well economically, but there are many "engines of the economy". Bangalore, Hyderabad and Delhi (Gurgaon) are IT centers. Chennai has its auto ancillary industries. Gujarat is booming. The list goes on.

 

[Bigboii]

There is no need to pontificate about a subject you have little knowledge about. Mumbai has done well economically, but there are many "engines of the economy". Bangalore, Hyderabad and Delhi (Gurgaon) are IT centers. Chennai has its auto ancillary industries. Gujarat is booming. The list goes on.

yeah but from outside India

Mumbai seems to be THE place to be like when you envision India its Mumbai you think of
easily one of the most famous cities in the world

Its kind of like me getting offended when people say Karachi is the crown jewel of Pakistan and I start listing Faisalabad and its textile, Lahore and its IT and other blah, blah, blah

that doesn't add much to my argument cause every city is important otherwise they wouldn't exist but the most important city is a cut above the rest and something you envision the country would be like

Am I sensing city rivalry type of jealously?

 

[Giannis]

There is no need to pontificate about a subject you have little knowledge about. Mumbai has done well economically, but there are many "engines of the economy". Bangalore, Hyderabad and Delhi (Gurgaon) are IT centers. Chennai has its auto ancillary industries. Gujarat is booming. The list goes on.

All of those other cities are landlocked except Chennai. For a city to be considered global it needs to be on a coastline.

 

[Napa]

yeah but from outside India

Mumbai seems to be THE place to be like when you envision India its Mumbai you think of
easily one of the most famous cities in the world

Its kind of like me getting offended when people say Karachi is the crown jewel of Pakistan and I start listing Faisalabad and its textile, Lahore and its IT and other blah, blah, blah

that doesn't add much to my argument cause every city is important otherwise they wouldn't exist but the most important city is a cut above the rest and something you envision the country would be like

Am I sensing city rivalry type of jealously?

No, I grew up in India so I have a better understanding of Mumbai. I think those who did not grow up there are heavily influenced by Bollywood and consequently have a high opinion of Mumbai.

Not trying to put down Mumbai, but my experience when I visited was that it was rather similar to Bangalore, Kolkata, Hyderabad etc., that is it didn't offer things which these other cities didn't have. Delhi does have something which other cities do not have, that is New Delhi. Easily the least crowded of all metros, but you have to be working for the government to be able to live there. Sort of like Islamabad I suppose.

 

[Napa]

All of those other cities are landlocked except Chennai. For a city to be considered global it needs to be on a coastline.

But what about London, Paris, Berlin, Moscow, Chicago, etc?

 

[Giannis]

But what about London, Paris, Berlin, Moscow, Chicago, etc?

London is very close to the coast, in fact Essex county touches the English channel so London is a coastal city. As for Paris and Berlin, they both have major waterway that connect to the seas, also along with Moscow all of these are capital cities which are obviously global cities as well as New Delhi. Chicago is barely global city and that's because it's the 3rd largest city of the most important country in the world but even then it's overshadowed by the bigger coastal cities like NYC and LA. Also Chicago is right on Lake Michigan, the great lakes are like huge inland seas so Chicago is far from a landlocked city.

 

[PakLFC]

There is no need to pontificate about a subject you have little knowledge about. Mumbai has done well economically, but there are many "engines of the economy". Bangalore, Hyderabad and Delhi (Gurgaon) are IT centers. Chennai has its auto ancillary industries. Gujarat is booming. The list goes on.

Rather you need to wake up and smell the coffee. Mumbai is the centre of your country, this is why people from other parts of the country move there in high numbers. It is like the London of the UK and NYC of America. Other parts of the country being successful does not negate that.

 

[Napa]

Rather you need to wake up and smell the coffee. Mumbai is the centre of your country, this is why people from other parts of the country move there in high numbers. It is like the London of the UK and NYC of America. Other parts of the country being successful does not negate that.

Really? Yes, some people move to Mumbai, but many move to Bangalore and Delhi (Gurgaon). In smaller numbers they also move to Hyderabad and Chennai. Rather funny that you are telling me about India.

 

[PakLFC]

Really? Yes, some people move to Mumbai, but many move to Bangalore and Delhi (Gurgaon). In smaller numbers they also move to Hyderabad and Chennai. Rather funny that you are telling me about India.

Just like many Indians like to tell us about Pak. Not some but thousands of people move to Mumbai. It is your commercial capital.

 

[Napa]

Just like many Indians like to tell us about Pak. Not some but thousands of people move to Mumbai. It is your commercial capital.

"Mumbai accounts for slightly more than 6.16%" of India's GDP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Mumbai

No replies, be well.

 

[saeedhk]

Kudos to the Bangalis for attaining their freedom. They are better off now. Their exports are two times higher than us and they have fewer out of school children than us and a lower fertility rate. Well done!

 

[PakLFC]

"Mumbai accounts for slightly more than 6.16%" of India's GDP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Mumbai

No replies, be well.

Mumbai is still the centre of India. As one Sidhu said about statistics being like min skirts and all that.