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Pakistan A vs Australia A : 1st Test (Jun 26-29)

Just like the main team, the A team cannot play spin :)))

Seriously one day an opposition team should pick 4 spinners to play Australia, we would get rolled....
 
Why is this tournament not even covered by cricinfo?....they are A teams and cricinfo should cover them ball by ball, especially when two good exciting teams are playing. Had there been India-A involved we would have been getting live telecast all around the globe.

Anyways good to hear that Pakistani bowlers are doing well. Can anyone quickly tell the overall bowling figures of our bowlers.
 
Thanks bud. Where you got that from?

Any idea about our pacers speed? And is there any change in Mohd. Talha's action?
 
kashif77 said:
Talha's been dropped twice according to that.

He should have had 4 wickets.
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thats what we were disscussing poor fielding by Pakistan, its time for a quality fielding coach now..!
 
There might be some highlights tonight on cable news, will try to post if I find them.

Good captain's knock by Voges getting Aus A to a competitive total, just by following the commentary it seems there has been some pretty good bowling by Pakistan A.

Guess the test comes when Pakistan A bat - as it always is with Pakistan...
 
Savak said:
I am worried about what Tait will do to us.
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You were also worried against Steyn and Parnell. We will be OK this time too.

Have faith in your players.
 
we are waiting how the young guns gona perform on australian pitches especially umar akmal, umar amin n azhar ali
 
Savak said:
I am worried about what Tait will do to us.
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In true :akhtar style, he aint playing this match.

Neither is Cockley, who is reputed to be pretty sharp.

This match is McKay/Bollinger/Henriques for pace which will not cause any issues for batsmen used to facing Wahab and Talha in the nets.
 
This match is McKay/Bollinger/Henriques for pace which will not cause any issues for batsmen used to facing Wahab and Talha in the nets.
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I dont think bowlers bowl at their full pace in the nets.
 
Savak said:
I dont think bowlers bowl at their full pace in the nets.
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watever, think +ive, our players still gona rokk n thrash the the aussie attack, InshaAllah :59:
 
Savak said:
I dont think bowlers bowl at their full pace in the nets.
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Really? If so they should change that pronto.

I know the Aussie quicks bowl at full speed in the nets - which is why we have a lot of injured batsmen. :)

But anyway, McKay and Henriques are medium pacers and Bollinger can hit 140kph on his fastest day. Not much to worry about...

This is shaping to be a competitive game...good
 
The key thing is are our bowlers showing penetration against top quality batsmen in foreign conditions.

Talha seems to have demonstrated that whilst Arif has demonstrated great control.

In my view the key goal of the tour is not for Pak A to win but for our fringe players to gain experience and I am sure they will.
 
Ali888 said:
The key thing is are our bowlers showing penetration against top quality batsmen in foreign conditions.

Talha seems to have demonstrated that whilst Arif has demonstrated great control.

In my view the key goal of the tour is not for Pak A to win but for our fringe players to gain experience and I am sure they will.
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No it is.
 
The great hope(hype) of Australian cricket Moises Henriques finally does something to justify his mystifying selections to represent Australia with a nice unbeaten 54*. Jason Krejza again shows he can bat - we are more interested in whether he can bowl without conceding 200 runs every innings.

Good days cricket - the test is when Pakistan bat.

As far as winning, Pakistan should definitely be planning to win these matches. This is a fair way from the Aus 2nd XI, most of whom are either on tour with the Ashes or playing county cricket.

Actual Aus A side (as in the next in line to replace the international regulars) would be something like this:

Phil Jaques
Chris Rogers
Brad Hodge
Shane Watson
Ferguson - playing
White - playing
Graham Manou
Brett Lee
Ben Hiflenhaus
Jason Krejza - playing
Doug Bollinger - playing

Tait and Nannes in reserve

I doubt Pakistan A is in totality the reserve players for the Pak international side but in any event Pakistan should not be looking at these matches as "learning experience", if they can bat well and bowl to standard they have a pretty good chance on friendly wickets.
 
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Random Aussie, I would say there are a number of players which wouldn't really be considered Pakistan A players here.

If you put Lee and Watson in a Pakistan A side then Fawad Alam, Nasir Jamshed, Sohail Tanvir, Yasir Arafat, Sohail Khan, Rao Ifktikhar would probably be a fair shout.
 
dblock said:
Random Aussie, I would say there are a number of players which wouldn't really be considered Pakistan A players here.

If you put Lee and Watson in a Pakistan A side then Fawad Alam, Nasir Jamshed, Sohail Tanvir, Yasir Arafat, Sohail Khan, Rao Ifktikhar would probably be a fair shout.
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Yep agree with you.

But was more saying that in reference to the poster talking about not winning games. If this Pak A side was up against the true Aus A side they would get beaten. And this Aus A against the true Pak A side would also get beaten.

But the way these 2 current A sides are set up Pakistan should be aiming to win the matches. No reason at all to be conceding even in the slightest, it is not even a bouncy wicket either.
 
what nonsense, you expect a bunch of kids who have never played in australia to get off a plane with no warm up games and beat any australian team?

let us just remember in practice matches in pakistan the so-called A team got smashed by our academy./emerging team featuring players such as nasir jamshed and mohammad irfan so really this is a Pakistan C/D team


here you go the evidence :-

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=77058

the list of top pak pacers is

Akhtar
Gul
Asif
Aamer
Rana Naved
Yasir Arafat
Abdur Rauf
Rao Iftikhar
Abdul Razzaq
Talha
Riaz
Arif
Irfan


so as you can see almost a 6th/7th string opening bowling combo
 
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volcyz said:
how in the world is akhtar top pacer -_-
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he just looking at akhtar as a bowler not what he does off the field, and on the field he is our 4th best fast bowler we ever produced, after imran wasim and waqar
 
Ali888 said:
what nonsense, you expect a bunch of kids who have never played in australia to get off a plane with no warm up games and beat any australian team?

let us just remember in practice matches in pakistan the so-called A team got smashed by our academy./emerging team featuring players such as nasir jamshed and mohammad irfan so really this is a Pakistan C/D team


here you go the evidence :-

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=77058

the list of top pak pacers is

Akhtar
Gul
Asif
Aamer
Rana Naved
Yasir Arafat
Abdur Rauf
Rao Iftikhar
Abdul Razzaq
Talha
Riaz
Arif
Irfan


so as you can see almost a 6th/7th string opening bowling combo
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wow, rao iftikhar above talha. doesnt talha actually HAVE a test wicket to his name?
 
i probably know more aus a players than pak, who is naved arif, iqbal, aus a is quite strong, 6 aus players have played in the internationals
 
Savak said:
I dont think bowlers bowl at their full pace in the nets.
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That's a good one.

I remember in the mid-90's when I used to play for a cricket club in Karachi, the national team came to our ground for a net session. I stood behind the nets for an hour and watched Wasim and Waqar steam in for about 7-8 overs each bowling with insane pace. I remember Saleem Malik and Inzi having to duck and weave and a fair bit of banter between batsman and bowler.

Keep in mind that all the members and ball-boys of the particular ground show up to a national team net session to help and spectate, and so all the players generally try to push themselves and put on a bit of a show.

If anything bowlers bowl quicker in the nets because they tend to overshoot the popping crease by a good foot or two. That's what explains some of our no-ball problems!
 
Free Hit said:
he just looking at akhtar as a bowler not what he does off the field, and on the field he is our 4th best fast bowler we ever produced, after imran wasim and waqar
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yeah like 2 years ago?
 
cmon BOYyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyys...u can clean up this village A team!!!!!!!!

wanna see GREAT bowling, great fielding...GREAT batting also - thats aim for pak team imo
 
Ali888 said:
what nonsense, you expect a bunch of kids who have never played in australia to get off a plane with no warm up games and beat any australian team?
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Yes. If they are not here to win they should drag their sorry ***** back to Pakistan. This is Pakistan not Bangladesh or England.
 
Its a good solid playing 11, that we have hopefully day two will be better.........
 
I am very disappointed that they did not select Shehrayar Ghani for this match. The guy was their best batsman in the trial matches against their best bowlers Mohammad Talha, Wahab Riaz and Naved Arif. What else he needs to do to play a game?
 
Random Aussie said:
Yes. If they are not here to win they should drag their sorry ***** back to Pakistan. This is Pakistan not Bangladesh or England.
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Agreed. You play to win, not to make sorry excuses.
 
srh said:
I am very disappointed that they did not select Shehrayar Ghani for this match. The guy was their best batsman in the trial matches against their best bowlers Mohammad Talha, Wahab Riaz and Naved Arif. What else he needs to do to play a game?
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Ghani and Ghuman deserved a spot ahead of Fahad.
 
waqar_ahmad said:
Agreed. You play to win, not to make sorry excuses.
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LOL

You clearly know nothing about professional sport this is not a league and you do not get anything for winning the only thing worth winning are the individual contests between batsman and bowler and gaining experience

If pak A had wanted to win they would have played their best batsmen during the warm up games i.e. Ghumman and Ghani
 
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Ali888 said:
LOL

You clearly know nothing about professional sport this is not a league and you do not get anything for winning the only thing worth winning are the individual contests between batsman and bowler and gaining experience

If pak A had wanted to win they would have played their best batsmen during the warm up games i.e. Ghumman and Ghani
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Bro I doubt that they will even play a single game during the tour dont you know that 50% players of this squad are sifarshi and parchi baaz?

Xoib said:
First Faisal keeps getting selected despite averaging grand 25 in test cricket,now Fahad makes it to the Final 11 ahead of Sheryar Ghani & Azeem Ghumman and this is on top of the fact that he was selected ahead of Ahmed Shezad, Nasir Jamshed & Saeed Bin Naisr in the full squad.

All I can say is this shows the amount of nepotism that exists in Pamistan cricket,
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What a superb post this is.
 
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Ali888 said:
LOL

You clearly know nothing about professional sport this is not a league and you do not get anything for winning the only thing worth winning are the individual contests between batsman and bowler and gaining experience

If pak A had wanted to win they would have played their best batsmen during the warm up games i.e. Ghumman and Ghani
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DOnt put bad team selection to not wanting to win
 
This would be my grading of this Pakistan A team squad's batsmen based on their current form:
1) Umar Akmal
2) Shehrayar Ghani
3) Azeem Ghumman
4) Azhar Ali
5) Umar Amin
6) Khalid Latif
7) Mohammad Hafeez
8) Fahad Iqbal

The top 6 should play. But problem is Mohammad Hafeez is our captain so he needs to play (who made him captain? Sarfraz Ahmad should be the captain). So I would have played these batsmen based on their current form:
1) Umar Akmal
2) Shehrayar Ghani
3) Azeem Ghumman
4) Azhar Ali
5) Umar Amin
6) Mohammad Hafeez

But the stupid team management drops the best 2 batsmen Shehrayar Ghani and Azeem Ghumman. What do you expect when you have Mohammad Ilyas as you manager? Disgraceful.
 
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The batting line up even for an A side is looking very inexperienced,
They should have had a couple of more well known names such as yasir hameed
 
hasanb said:
20 Overs, 2 wickets and 83 runs going at 4.15 per over
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Considering catches were dropped of his bowling, but I still think that he is a bit to expensive!

I hope Wahab Riaz does good in this tour! Both of these really need to come through for Pakistan!
 
mmkextreme_1 said:
Considering catches were dropped of his bowling, but I still think that he is a bit to expensive!

I hope Wahab Riaz does good in this tour! Both of these really need to come through for Pakistan!
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Imagine if both of them do come through strongly, we suddenly have Aamer, Riaz and Talha in the left arm dept with an out of form Tanvir lurking as well! Id actually quite like to see a good pacey right hander coming through to compliment them to he honest!
 
hasanb said:
Imagine if both of them do come through strongly, we suddenly have Aamer, Riaz and Talha in the left arm dept with an out of form Tanvir lurking as well! Id actually quite like to see a good pacey right hander coming through to compliment them to he honest!
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Talha is not lefty, he is right arm bowler.
 
Dont mind the likes of Talha, Wahab being expensive. It just shows how hard they were trying in order to strive for wickets.
 
Well then again RA did say that the wickets are flat up north in Australia, so considering that, I think we are in a good position! Good point Savak bro, I hope they clean up the tail quickly and in true Pakistani fashion!
 
Is the scorecard not working for anyone?! The Cricket Australia one in the first post...
 
Australia 399 all out in 118.3 overs
JJ Krejza scoring 101

Mohammad Talha 32.1 3 123 2 3.82 (9nb, 1w)

Wahab Riaz 26.3 3 98 5 3.69 (2nb, 3w)

Naved Arif 16.5 1 50 0 2.97 (1nb, 1w)

Abdur Rehman 34 5 93 2 2.73

Mohammad Hafeez 9 0 28 1 3.11
 
Good finish by Wahab 5/98 off 26.3 are quite impressive figures even though he got most of the tailenders but it's a confidence boosting performance.
Naved Arif is economical but no wickets for him unfortunately.

Careful start by both openers
Latif 7 off 18 no
Azhar 5 off 21 no

Pak A 13/0 in 6.3 overs
 
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