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Pakistan A vs Australia A : 1st Test (Jun 26-29)

LOL how did Krusha get a ton? :)))

Also, a decent knock from Voges - shame he'll never play for Australia again. And a good innings from Henriques as well, gives us a defendable score.
 
Who are the ones to look out for in the Pakistan team? Promising young blokes who might have a decent future ahead of them? For Australia it would be Henriques and Holland (both 22) and Paine (24). Now that a lot of the older greats have retired, some of the younger fellas who would otherwise be stuck playing grade cricket are getting a go.
 
Random Aussie said:
The pitches up North are more like subcontinent pitches. They do not have the bounce characteristic of Australian pitches in the main cities.
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Yep, pretty dead and slow but probably a bit of swing due to the humidity eh. What's the winter like in Aussie at the moment mate?
 
Savak said:
Maybe Random Aussie, OZGOD, Fish can tell us about the speeds Talha, Wahab are generating?
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I'm not in Australia at the moment mate, I'm in Boston where I have to watch the Red Sox. Josh Beckett is pitching 97mph.
 
Mohammad Hafeez is a CRAP player...I don't know why we pick this guy!!!


He is gone for zero!!

Also Khalid Latif gone for 17!!

Double wicket over for McKay...anybody know about this bowler?
 
Now Umar Amin was dropped on one by Voges in 2nd slip..life for the young guy..I hope he makes the most of it!
 
Azhar Ali 22 no off 77 balls.
Is he the opener we need??
I think we do need someone who can stick to the wicket and he should get a chance soon but he needs to improve his SR a bit as we already have Manzoor and Butt who can just stay on the wicket without scoring many runs.
 
Umer Amin fails to convert another start. Last I saw Azhar Ali he had a bit of Kallis technique in him seems to be batting in a similar manner.
 
OZGOD said:
Who are the ones to look out for in the Pakistan team? Promising young blokes who might have a decent future ahead of them? For Australia it would be Henriques and Holland (both 22) and Paine (24). Now that a lot of the older greats have retired, some of the younger fellas who would otherwise be stuck playing grade cricket are getting a go.
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look out for Talha and umar akmal
 
lol our batting suck and 50% of the batsmen playing here are due to uncles and father's connections and that was the reason they fall for 150 against Pak academy attack(against a bowler who didnt even play Grade II cricket yet)
 
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muhammad saad said:
lol our batting suck and 50% of the batsmen playing here are due to uncles and father's connections and that was the reason they fall for 150 against Pak academy attack(against a bowler who didnt even play Grade II cricket yet)
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Fahad Iqbal is the only one with connections. Hafeez is there just to provide expierence since he had made the tour last time aswell while Khalid Latif is high;y rated for some odd reason.
 
Xoib said:
Fahad Iqbal is the only one with connections. Hafeez is there just to provide expierence since he had made the tour last time aswell while Khalid Latif is high;y rated for some odd reason.
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Experience of HOW TO GET A DUCK you mean right?
 
Poor Hafeez..I guess he will continue to play for Pakistan A till he's 40...and then they'll make him the coach
 
Great batting from Akmal so far, 51 from 75 deliveries, and Azhar Ali has provided great support. I hope both of them can continue to get 100s.
 
Umar Akmal gets out for 54

Over 48.1: Holland to Umar Akmal, no run, OUT, attempts to sweep the ball down to fine leg and has been hit in the pads sending up the fielders and the umpire;s finger

4/161 off 48.1

Azhar Ali 56 no

Bhanja junior in
 
Remember that Pakistan had Australia for 175-5 at one stage before that massive partnership of Krejza and Henriques. Pakistan are 172-4 at the moment so we need a big partnership here. Still Safraz ahmed and Naved Arif (remember he is an allrounder) to come.
 
IAJ said:
Remember that Pakistan had Australia for 175-5 at one stage before that massive partnership of Krejza and Henriques. Pakistan are 172-4 at the moment so we need a big partnership here. Still Safraz ahmed and Naved Arif (remember he is an allrounder) to come.
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Wahab handy with the willow too as is Rehman.
 
So it is 202-4 at the stumps. Looks like Azhar Ali has a decent tecn. since he has faced 186 balls for his 73 not out.
 
Pak A 202/ at the end of the day

Azhar Ali 73 mo off 186 balls
Bhanja Jr 23 no off 42

Pakistan can still post a high score as Sarfraz is yet to come and both Wahab and Talha can bat a bit, so can Abdur Rehman.
 
Waseem said:
Pak A 202/ at the end of the day

Azhar Ali 73 mo off 186 balls
Bhanja Jr 23 no off 42

Pakistan can still post a high score as Sarfraz is yet to come and both Wahab and Talha can bat a bit, so can Abdur Rehman.
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Don't forget Arif as Shoaib Malik has said he is an allrounder.
 
Pakistan is in much better position then I expected. Really impressed with Azhar and Akmal's knock and Wahab's bowling. Bit disappointed that Talha didn't do much. I was hoping he would rip through the Australian line-up, but hopefully in the second inning.
 
Waseem said:
Umar Akmal gets out for 54

Over 48.1: Holland to Umar Akmal, no run, OUT, attempts to sweep the ball down to fine leg and has been hit in the pads sending up the fielders and the umpire;s finger

4/161 off 48.1

Azhar Ali 56 no

Bhanja junior in
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Somethings never change when playing in Australia, the Pak bowlers were having every appeal turned down, not a single lbw out of 10 wickets.
 
^^ good observation...i was thinking about the exact same thing
 
Mercenary said:
Somethings never change when playing in Australia, the Pak bowlers were having every appeal turned down, not a single lbw out of 10 wickets.
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you sure our bowlers hit the pad? :inzi
 
talha and wahab seem to have bowled well

Our spinners let us down not being able to run thru aussies who are useless against spin

Good performance so far from our genuine young talented batsmen whilst the corrupt/ nepotism/seniority selections failed as they should
 
Wahab Riaz was great as the figures mention I said it that he should be selected for the sri lanka series but yeah... and Azhar Ali is doing a fine job 2. jason krezja is that spin bowler who took 6 wickets voor 200 runs orso against india I remmeber something like that.. how can he make a century man

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8/215 where his figurs in stead of 6 for 200
 
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HuZi said:
Wahab Riaz was great as the figures mention I said it that he should be selected for the sri lanka series but yeah... and Azhar Ali is doing a fine job 2. jason krezja is that spin bowler who took 6 wickets voor 200 runs orso against india I remmeber something like that.. how can he make a century man

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8/215 where his figurs in stead of 6 for 200
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Krejza is a very handy batsman, he made decent runs at Test level, believe he has a Test fifty to his name.
 
very encouraging that wahab riaz ripped thru the tail it is an important skill

good to see also that our C/D team batsmen were not skittled by Bollinger as our A team guys were in Dubai/Abu Dhabi
 
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Mohammad Hafeez is the only experienced member of the side and it is really disappointing
that he fell so early.
Other than that it is good to see Umar akmal doing well in the longer format and Azhar Ali proving himself
 
I am not convinced by talha or wahab bowling.They are good bowlers but certainly not world class.Something that is associated with pakistan pace attack.
They can be handy in ODI's but in test cricket they are far from quality.
 
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right so taking a fifer on a maiden tour of australia against Australia A is not 'world class' ?

and talha has had catches dropped of his bowling

and both are capable of bowling at 150kph according to mudasser nazar, not at all near world class

i expect you would have said the same about waqar and wasim in the early years of their careers as well
 
Australia A v Pakistan A, Townsville, 2nd day

Krejza posts century but struggles with ball

Cricinfo staff

June 27, 2009

Text size: A | A Pakistan A 4 for 202 (Azhar Ali 73*, Umar Akmal 54) trail Australia A 399 (Krejza 101*, Voges 78, Henriques 76, Wahab Riaz 5-98) by 197 runs
Scorecard

Jason Krejza's maiden first-class century set up a strong total for Australia A but Pakistan A's Azhar Ali had led a solid response by the close of the second day. At stumps Pakistan had reached 4 for 202 and trailled by 197 with Azhar unbeaten on 73 and Fahad Iqbal on 23.

Krejza's main aim is to prove that he still has the ability to be a Test-class spinner and while he struggled with that objective - he took 0 for 50 from 13 overs - his hundred was a significant bonus. He and Moises Henriques (76) added 121 for the seventh wicket before Henriques became one of five victims for the fast bowler Wahab Riaz.

Riaz finished with 5 for 98 and cleaned up the tail to leave Krejza, whose previous highest first-class score was 65, unbeaten on 101. He was fortunate to reach triple figures after the No. 11 Jon Holland joined him when Krejza was in the 80s and promptly edged his first two deliveries.

With the ball, it was Holland who outperformed his fellow spinner Krejza and picked up 2 for 39. Azhar guided Pakistan's reply and had good support from Umar Akmal, who posted 54, after the fast bowler Clint McKay reduced the visitors to 2 for 30.

http://www.cricinfo.com/australia/content/story/410682.html
 
Azhar Ali has a fantastic temperament. You can tease him outside the off-stump for as long as you want and he'll continue to resist. But over pitch a little, or stray onto the pads, and he'll pick you for runs. All day.

Due to his mind-sight, he's good at milking spinners. I guess it helps that he bowls some spin himself. Now that I think of it, I'm surprised he didn't get a bowl himself.

What I'm not surprised about, however, are Latif and Hafeez's failures. They were liabilities when selected for the squad. Funny how we can see that.
 
Ali888 said:
right so taking a fifer on a maiden tour of australia against Australia A is not 'world class' ?

and talha has had catches dropped of his bowling

and both are capable of bowling at 150kph according to mudasser nazar, not at all near world class

i expect you would have said the same about waqar and wasim in the early years of their careers as well
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So getting wickets of tail enders are good enough now a days to being compared with :younis :wasim
speed is not everything and they both have clocked 140+ in the matches they have played so far while representing pakistan.which is certainly not earthsaking.They both need to work really hard to improve their bowling.
I am not saying that Amir is not world class.But both talha and wahab are not even upto amir standards as of yet.
 
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Waqar Younis's maiden tour of Australia

Pakistan v Australia PM XI

10-0-57-0

Pakistan v Victoria

31-1-111-4 (two tailenders)

Pakistan v Queensland

28-4-89-1

Pakistan v Western Australia

15-2-72-1



So to sum up against Aussie State teams on his maiden tour Waqar Younis 'The Legend' in your eyes took only 6 wickets in 4 matches at an average of over 50 !!!

Presumably you would have dropped this guy as a failure ?
 
Legendary_Sage said:
So getting wickets of tail enders are good enough now a days to being compared with :younis :wasim
speed is not everything and they both have clocked 140+ in the matches they have played so far while representing pakistan.which is certainly not earthsaking.They both need to work really hard to improve their bowling.
I am not saying that Amir is not world class.But both talha and wahab are not even upto amir standards as of yet.
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Hold it, Aamir has yet to play an ODI or test match yet. We must remember this was only a T-20 tournament he played in.

Bowling in T-20's is totally different to bowling in ODI's and test matches. Talha has not played an ODI or T-20 yet, Wahab has not played a test match yet.

To me at the moment they are all more or less equal. These 3 should all play for the national side. No point in going back to domestic cricket, it will never improve them.
 
Ali888 said:
Waqar Younis's maiden tour of Australia

Pakistan v Australia PM XI

10-0-57-0

Pakistan v Victoria

31-1-111-4 (two tailenders)

Pakistan v Queensland

28-4-89-1

Pakistan v Western Australia

15-2-72-1



So to sum up against Aussie State teams on his maiden tour Waqar Younis 'The Legend' in your eyes took only 6 wickets in 4 matches at an average of over 50 !!!

Presumably you would have dropped this guy as a failure ?
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waqar was raw talent early on his career.He was 155+k bowler when he started his career.Later Imran mentnr him to learn the art of taking wickets.
But in case of talha and wahab.They are not express pace like waqar.
And not as sharp thinkers like asif.
Wahab need to work on his inswing and mental aspect of the game.He looked helpless when indians went after him.
Talha still have b flaws in his run up and working on outswing.
Look at amir he is younger then them but performed much better.
 
Anyway my point is made, you can continue digging yourself into a bigger hole.
 
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Savak said:
Hold it, Aamir has yet to play an ODI or test match yet. We must remember this was only a T-20 tournament he played in.

Bowling in T-20's is totally different to bowling in ODI's and test matches. Talha has not played an ODI or T-20 yet, Wahab has not played a test match yet.

To me at the moment they are all more or less equal. These 3 should all play for the national side. No point in going back to domestic cricket, it will never improve them.
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the point i was trying to make that talha and wahab are not world class talent at the moment.They are medium fast at best by bowling low 140+.I hope they will get more chances to improve bowling skills.This tour will play a major role in that.
 
Ali888 said:
Anyway my point is made, you can continue digging yourself into a bigger hole.
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according to you they are finished products and world class bowlers Which they are not at the MOMENT.
Check mate.
 
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Mudasser Nazar said they can both bowl 150kph that is about 93-4mph

here is the article

When asked the fast bowlers camp, he said: "We have some of the best in business attending the camp. Muhammad Talha and Wahab Riaz are delivering a speed of 140 plus and when the camp concludes they would surely cross 150 mark. We also have potential bowlers in the under-19 team. Amer and Rana are also good prospects."

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-n...stan-couldve-learnt-great-deal-from-Australia
 
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Legendary_Sage said:
according to you they are finished products and world class bowlers Which they are not at the MOMENT.
Check mate.
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You dont become a world class bowler by your debut, you only learn what is required for international success through exposure. And this the likes of Aamir, Talha, Wahab and co can acquire through more A tours and matches for the national team.
 
Good effort from the Pak "A" boys so far, but player like Kreicza shouldnt be allowed to score tons against you.
 
Good to see Hafeez (as usual) contributing A LOT to the team...shabaash (as usual)!
 
Savak said:
You dont become a world class bowler by your debut, you only learn what is required for international success through exposure. And this the likes of Aamir, Talha, Wahab and co can acquire through more A tours and matches for the national team.
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But Pak pace bowlers always have something special about them when they start international career.Look at Asif,Amir,Wasim,Waqar,Gul,Akhtar all of them showed something unique.
But in case of talha,wahab,sohail khan the above factor is missing at the moment.
 
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Mohsin said:
Good to see Hafeez (as usual) contributing A LOT to the team...shabaash (as usual)!
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Who made him the captain and why?? Captain of the A team should be someone young and upcoming cricketer..and not some tried and tested failure.
 
pakcricketfan said:
Who made him the captain and why?? Captain of the A team should be someone young and upcoming cricketer..and not some tried and tested failure.
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Pakistan cricket at its best huh! In my opinion Azhar Ali should have been selected as captain!
 
IAJ said:
Pakistan cricket at its best huh! In my opinion Azhar Ali should have been selected as captain!
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I would have appointed Sarfraz as the captain.. any youngster but Hafeez.. :31:
 
Legendary_Sage said:
But Pak pace bowlers always have something special about them when they start international career.Look at Asif,Amir,Wasim,Waqar,Gul,Akhtar all of them showed something unique.
But in case of talha,wahab,sohail khan the above factor is missing at the moment.
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Asif was very ordinary at the start.
 
No Asif was Extraordinary ! Extraordinarily BAD

Here are all the Pakistan pacers who went on the same Australian tour as Asif....

ALL of them took wickets EXCEPT for Asif

Naved-ul-Hasan
Abdul Razzaq
Shoaib Akhtar
Mohammad Khalil
Iftikhar Anjum
Mohammad Sami
Azhar Mahmood
 
My eye is on Azhar ali and umer akmal, i see a test batsmen in azher ali , i am impressed with his consistency MahsaAllah in my openion he need to work hard with same dedication , selectors should not give him a hasty chance in Tests or ODI's unless he has played atleast 100 first class matches.
 
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Sohail Khan and Talha might be future great bowlers but looking at their actions in the test matches I felt they are both not going to last very long in international cricket because of injuries etc. Talha seemed to bowl with some thought but with sohail i felt he was just coming and banging the ball.
 
Michelle for McKay, and still 2 up for grabs
 
9/323, hopefully we can get the last wicket sooner rather than later and set a healthy target in the time remaining.
 
Hopefully we can get to 370. Not impossible, Naved Arif isn't a terrible batsman.
 
another impressive inning by sarfaraz. Good to see azhar ali batting well.
 
Anyone know how long the innings break is?
 
Lightning said:
Asif was very ordinary at the start.
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Asif was ordinary in his debut match only.but even in that match when waqar was commentating he praised him.
Waqar pointed out many basic flaws when Talha and Sohail khan were bowling.
 
Ali888 said:
No Asif was Extraordinary ! Extraordinarily BAD

Here are all the Pakistan pacers who went on the same Australian tour as Asif....

ALL of them took wickets EXCEPT for Asif

Naved-ul-Hasan
Abdul Razzaq
Shoaib Akhtar
Mohammad Khalil
Iftikhar Anjum
Mohammad Sami
Azhar Mahmood
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Did you watch that test match in Aus when Asif was bowling and Waqar was commentating.Even though Asif didnt pick up a wicket but even then waqar praised him.Unlike pointing out basic techincal flaws when Talha and Sohail were bowling against SL.
To make one correction Rao,Rana played in ODI VB series and not in test matches.
I have said it before that Talha can be a good one day bowler.But test matches require different skills.
 
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Over 0.4: Talha to Klinger, no run, DROPPED, edges the ball into the slips but is put down at third slip

3rd catch dropped of Talha!! pathetic pak fielding. Is it harder for slip fielders of a quickie?
 
ataullah said:
Over 0.4: Talha to Klinger, no run, DROPPED, edges the ball into the slips but is put down at third slip

3rd catch dropped of Talha!! pathetic pak fielding. Is it harder for slip fielders of a quickie?
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this is a disgrace.
 
Our A team looks great. Only thing missing is quality leg spinner
 
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