Pakistan reach 109/3 at the end of Day 2 of the first Test against the West Indies, with a lead of 202 runs

[Deewana Mastana]

Sajid has missed his lines today despite getting 4 wickets

 

[jnaveen1980]

One could see this coming when sinclair looked like muralitharan

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Yea.. but Pakistan can declare 0/0 and still win. Ball is turning square and batsmen have no technique to fall back on. So another sub 100 loading.

Well that last pair showed even if it was 25 runs still that if you have intent you can score just need to be proactive.

 

[psyoptica]

50 runs partnership coming up

 

[jnaveen1980]

On a turning wicket these guys play T20 cricket lol Two solid connection.

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Sixes galore

3 in the last 5 balls

 

[kingusama92]

Big hitting from Seales!

 

[jnaveen1980]

I think left handers are the key for West Indies.

 

[jamie smith]

sixes galore loll

 

[Ahmed216]

It's a very good score on this pitch. Pakistan was lucky to win the toss .

You said the same when Pak when 2nd test against England. And I told you it's not correct.
As it turned out Pak lost the toss in 3rd test still won the game.

Eng and WI are just poor against spin plain and simple

 

[DeadlyVenom]

You didn’t answer my earlier question.

Pak vs SA test was all pace. Was that crap cricket.

Also, if what you are saying is true and Applying your logic, why don’t SENA teams prepare spinning mambas to prepare for tests in Asia?

How many wickets fell in 2 days in South Africa match?

 

[jamie smith]

warrican and seales should open in the 2nd innings

 

[baba ghazi]

lol..sajid is getting sweeped so easily by warrican

 

[psyoptica]

Sajid khan getting spanked

 

[kingusama92]

These two are making batting look easy.

 

[Omer2002]

Use some brains will you and chamge the bowlimg...bring pacer or abrar

 

[jnaveen1980]

Sajid relies on that massive turn from that patch outside the off. When it doesn't happen he looke pedestrian. No other skill like carrom ball, straighter one. drifter.

 

[boomboomcheema]

These runs could cost Pakistan.

 

[Savak]

You need a pacer to knock off the tail. Spinners get tired eventually

 

[Ahmed216]

This is poor captaincy. Sajid looking for his fifer and this obsession with stats is so damaging.
Shan can say whatever he wants in the press

 

[psyoptica]

Abrar about to get ripped into shreds

 

[Omer2002]

Hahahajaj abrar sorry this is hilarious

 

[BouncerGuy]

This partnership was hurting pakistan before abrar took the final one...137 all out

 

[jnaveen1980]

They didn't show ABrar celebration? lol

 

[psyoptica]

Good effort for the last wicket partnership. Maybe this was the way to go for Westindies all along.

 

[Farabi]

How many wickets fell in 2 days in South Africa match?

A lot of tests in SENA also finish in 2-3 days but no one complains.

You’re not answering my question.

I get where you’re coming from. You probably enjoy watching fast bowling or maybe you think fast bowling-centric Test cricket is of better quality or more exciting to watch than spin bowling. That’s subjective and you’re welcome to have your taste.

What everyone’s trying to get you to understand is that’s not how the rest of the world sees it. SENA teams don’t prepare spin-heavy tracks at home to get ready for away tours.

The real preparation should be happening at the domestic FC level.

 

[Omer2002]

Now the pak battimg collapse coming up

 

[jnaveen1980]

Don't think West Indies has players to play this way. I don't think any of the top order play T20 cricket

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Walking ducks need to be careful here

 

[boomboomcheema]

66-8 to 137 All Out, Last Two wickets doubled the scores, just how unpredictable is Cricket.

 

[Savak]

WI tail showed the batters how they needed to play on this wicket.

 

[boomboomcheema]

Last Wicket partnership of 46 in 20 Balls, it would make Top Order Batsmen proud in T20s.

 

[Deewana Mastana]

66-8 to 137 all out.

The last 3 bowlers don't disappoint WI adding 61.

Pak were also generous with their extras 22 in 25 overs compared to 18 in 69 by WI.

 

[Omer2002]

66-8 to 137 All Out, Last Two wickets doubled the scores, just how unpredictable is Cricket.

Exactly and Pak dnt have the guts to that their spinners will cause same issues. In my opinion Saud and Rizwan were very lucky in the first innings and i believe them two scored the runs

 

[kingusama92]

250+ lead and it's game over.

Even 200 looks difficult as this pitch ages further.

 

[boomboomcheema]

Dare I Say , Momentum with West Indies now despite the lead. Pakistan shouldnt have let the opposition find some belief.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Brathwhite 96 tests
Mikyle 7 tests
Carty 4 tests
Hodge 9 tests
Athaneze 11 tests
Greaves 4 tests

This is their top 6. SOme of the tests were against Bangladesh. So they don't really have any decent experience against better sides. So Pakistan should be able to wrap this up by tea tomorrow.

 

[Deewana Mastana]

I'm not a fan of spinners bowling all of the overs.

I like balanced test matches.

It doesn't help that WIndies are crap too.

For a reason Holder was their best bat last year with an avg of 34 followed by Warrican with 29.

 

[boomboomcheema]

Pakistan needs another score of 150+ here which I think is unlikely as they have been lucky once already in the first innings. If Pakistan can get AO for 100-120 runs, WI will fancy chasing it with their aggressive approach.

 

[boomboomcheema]

Hope Babar the loser scores for a change under challenging conditions.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Score 200 runs more now... that should be enough

 

[DeadlyVenom]

A lot of tests in SENA also finish in 2-3 days but no one complains.

You’re not answering my question.

I get where you’re coming from. You probably enjoy watching fast bowling or maybe you think fast bowling-centric Test cricket is of better quality or more exciting to watch than spin bowling. That’s subjective and you’re welcome to have your taste.

What everyone’s trying to get you to understand is that’s not how the rest of the world sees it. SENA teams don’t prepare spin-heavy tracks at home to get ready for away tours.

The real preparation should be happening at the domestic FC level.

Test matches should go into day 4 and day 5 with an appropriate balance for fast bowlers and quicks. It's not about spin mambas or green mambas.

I enjoy spin bowling. It is an incredible art. But two spinners bowling with the new ball on day 2 and getting massive turn isn't a good balance for the game.

 

[gazza619]

Pakistan needs another score of 150+ here which I think is unlikely as they have been lucky once already in the first innings. If Pakistan can get AO for 100-120 runs, WI will fancy chasing it with their aggressive approach.

so you are still backing WI to win this.

Thank heavens you are not a betting man, lol

 

[Ahmed216]

Pakistan needs another score of 150+ here which I think is unlikely as they have been lucky once already in the first innings. If Pakistan can get AO for 100-120 runs, WI will fancy chasing it with their aggressive approach.

Pak will score 250+ I think

 

[gazza619]

Test matches should go into day 4 and day 5 with an appropriate balance for fast bowlers and quicks. It's not about spin mambas or green mambas.

I enjoy spin bowling. It is an incredible art. But two spinners bowling with the new ball on day 2 and getting massive turn isn't a good balance for the game.

I actually agree with you on this one. You dont want sharp spin from the very first over of the match. If we always produce these sort of wickets at home, all our batters would end up averaging below 25 lol.

 

[Rajdeep]

This match is aired free in youtube. Why? How is PCB making money then?

 

[jnaveen1980]

I actually agree with you on this one. You dont want sharp spin from the very first over of the match. If we always produce these sort of wickets at home, all our batters would end up averaging below 25 lol.

It also makes the game a lottery as the toss can overly tilt the balance.

 

[Farabi]

Test matches should go into day 4 and day 5 with an appropriate balance for fast bowlers and quicks. It's not about spin mambas or green mambas.

I enjoy spin bowling. It is an incredible art. But two spinners bowling with the new ball on day 2 and getting massive turn isn't a good balance for the game.

That’s fair! If you want to tone it down so the fun lasts 4-5 days, I’m good with that.

But we shouldn’t be ashamed of having a spin-based strategy, and we definitely shouldn’t use home Tests as prep for SENA tours. That’s what domestic cricket is for.

India has been doing this for decades and they couldn’t give two hoops. Aus/SA pitches offer nothing for the spinners and they couldn’t care less about their preparation for Asia.

Test cricket is tough, and Pakistan needs to dominate at home—by hook or by crook—to build confidence and a winning habit.
The away wins will follow naturally.

 

[jamie smith]

I actually agree with you on this one. You dont want sharp spin from the very first over of the match. If we always produce these sort of wickets at home, all our batters would end up averaging below 25 lol.

averages dont matter,winning matters

 

[jamie smith]

windies will win this test by 1 with one wicket on the back of an alkanze ton

 

[Omer2002]

I dont think our batters will survive here to be honest

 

[jamie smith]

masoods average is 30.4 atm cheers

 

[Farabi]

I actually agree with you on this one. You dont want sharp spin from the very first over of the match. If we always produce these sort of wickets at home, all our batters would end up averaging below 25 lol.

@DeadlyVenom This is a ridiculous concern.

The SENA pitches start swinging/seaming from ball 1. They usually offer generous bounce from ball 1 to disturb Asian batters. They are not trying to you last 5 days, why should we?

 

[jamie smith]

huraira will not last long

 

[jamie smith]

every run from top 4 should be taken as a bonus

 

[jnaveen1980]

Seales is a world class bowler. In any other team he would be a gold asset.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Brilliant action as well.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

@DeadlyVenom This is a ridiculous concern.

The SENA pitches start swinging/seaming from ball 1. They usually offer generous bounce from ball 1 to disturb Asian batters. They are not trying to you last 5 days, why should we?

This isn't my concern it's gazza bhais concern.

I'm not fussed about averages. If a player is good enough they will find a way.

 

[Kianig89]

5-0 Good start

 

[Farabi]

This isn't my concern it's gazza bhais concern.

I'm not fussed about averages. If a player is good enough they will find a way.

Yup! Saud made 80 runs. Last test against England, he made a 100.

You need to have technique to bat against spin. It’s an art.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Get 300+ lead... atleast try not to crumble again

 

[jamie smith]

two talentless parchis to be followed by babar and glorified tailender kg,this is a joke of a top 4

 

[jnaveen1980]

I don't think even the most optimist West Indian fan would be as optimistic as Dominic Cork.

 

[Omer2002]

Yes gulam n agha wnt even get in nepals team

 

[Farabi]

This isn't my concern it's gazza bhais concern.

I'm not fussed about averages. If a player is good enough they will find a way.

Not the averages. There is no book saying that ball cannot turn from day 1. If ball can swing from day 1, it can turn from day 1.

 

[Omer2002]

Beautiful action and lovely bowler seales with roach to come and josephs who are playing T20s leagues

 

[ahmed16]

two talentless parchis to be followed by babar and glorified tailender kg,this is a joke of a top 4

Not sure Huraira is a parchi (despite his relation to a talentless cricketer like Malik), averages 60 + in FC, deserves his opportunity.

 

[Omer2002]

Our players look so ugly playing reverse sweeps they have that covered so its a risky stroke anyways

 

[RidiculousMan]

Noman and Sajid are superior spinners to Motie

 

[jnaveen1980]

Even after losing 10 wickets to spinners they use seamers hre to get wicket. That is how bad their spin attack is.

 

[Kianig89]

Going nicely lead by 113

 

[BouncerGuy]

Shan is in different mood so far,...looking to attack

 

[BouncerGuy]

Finishing the game in a hurry....

 

[jamie smith]

huraira is rubbish against pace doesnt have much of a future imo

 

[Farabi]

I am surprised to see so many fans of Seals on Pakpassion.
His average speed is 133 KPH today. Pakistani pacers with this pace are quickly relegated to “trundler” designation.

He’s showing once again that pace is overrated.

 

[mominsaigol]

This match is aired free in youtube. Why? How is PCB making money then?

Are you honestly that dense . Omg. Youtube is one of the biggest money making platforms on the planet?

This is like asking how T series makes money despite uploading and streaming all their music for free on YouTube?

Jeez I wonder why they make 2B in revenue with over 300M of that revenue coming from YouTube and 50M coming from streaming.

Jeez I wonder how their getting paid?

 

[jamie smith]

down on pace today,otherwise he bowls 135

I am surprised to see so many fans of Seals on Pakpassion.
His average speed is 133 KPH today. Pakistani pacers with this pace are quickly relegated to “trundler” designation.

He’s showing once again that pace is overrated.

+

 

[BouncerGuy]

umpire's call saved him... That would have been a goner. HURRAIRA.

 

[jamie smith]

narrow escape for the parchi

 

[bones]

I wish the WI stretched out their innings and got within a handful of runs, this would have made for a far more interesting match. Right now it doesn't feel like a contest at all.