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Pakistan v Australia | First Test - Day 1 | Lords | 13/07/10

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Umpiring cost us on last english tour and bad umpiring has hampered us already at the start of 1st test
 
Gul doing enough to keep some pressure from his end. Although he should start getting more attacking sooner than later.
 
IMMY69 said:
it doesnt matter if it did pitch outside offstump, its where the ball hits the pads and in this instance it did hit him in line...
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Yea i never understand why so many commentators talk about ball pitching outside off stump when discussing LBW decisions. It has almost no relevance.
 
KATICH kee KAAAF hai aaj :)

when we used to play cricket (FRENDLY).. we give extra batting to small kids and weak player

umpire is doing the same thing with katich ..
 
Sparhawk said:
Yea i never understand why so many commentators talk about ball pitching outside off stump when discussing LBW decisions. It has almost no relevance.
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It's the leg stump that matters. Not the off stump.
 
IMMY69 said:
Which England series - it was not used for the Bangla games...
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for the england series coming up against pakistan.
i know for sure 100% it is being used then.
 
IMMY69 said:
If Warne was bowling somehow I reckon that LBW appeal would have been upheld!!!
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10 out of 10times Rudy the MF would raise his F*king finger. :po:
 
Gul bowls some stunners here and there. He just isnt consistent enough. I still remember how he bowled sanga in lanka off a brilliant ball that seamed in from way outside off
 
kingusama92 said:
He did not pad the ball away.

He played a stroke and thus the decision became a tight one as once you play a shot the ball has to strike the pad within the line of the stumps.

If he had padded it like you stated then it would have been an easy decision.
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That's down to ones view. Padding up can be done in a very suttle way. The reason being, it saves you from he outsidge edge, the batter pretends he is playing a shot but in reality he is not. I know this is very difficult for the umpires to spot but even so it was a so close other umpires would have given that out and so would have UDRS.
 
IMMY69 said:
it doesnt matter if it did pitch outside offstump, its where the ball hits the pads and in this instance it did hit him in line...
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RH Bowler to LH Batsmen, it needs to Pitch & Hit in line ??
 
Sparhawk said:
Yea i never understand why so many commentators talk about ball pitching outside off stump when discussing LBW decisions. It has almost no relevance.
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only if the batsman is not playing a shot - if the ball pitches outside offstump and hits the batsman outside the offstump, but the batsman doesnt play a shot and it looks as if the ball would hit the stumps then it is out...

In this instance katish did play a shot, however although the ball pitched outside offstump, the impact was on the line of offstump..

These are close calls yet somehow I reckon they'd be given if the bowler was say Warne and then the commentators would be lauding the decision..
 
Yea i never understand why so many commentators talk about ball pitching outside off stump when discussing LBW decisions. It has almost no relevance.
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..............and (d) the point of impact, even if above the level of the bails
either (i) is between wicket and wicket
or (ii) is either between wicket and wicket or outside the line of the off stump, if the striker has made no genuine attempt to play the ball with his bat
 
NorthStar said:
RH Bowler to LH Batsmen, it needs to Pitch & Hit in line ??
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nope...The ball must simply not pitch outside the leg stump line, to left hander or right hander...Yes the angle would be harder if a rh bowler is bowling to a lh batsmen, however with a spinner who is turning the ball then its very quiet likely to happen..As it did here..
 
waqar_ahmad said:
Unbelievable how fickle pa fans are. Asif is one of the best test match bowlers in the world. He doesnt get a wicket today, and suddenly he is rubbish!
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Not suddenly, since the past 6 months or so.
since the whole Veena Malik incident, keep watching
 
IMMY69 said:
only if the batsman is not playing a shot - if the ball pitches outside offstump and hits the batsman outside the offstump, but the batsman doesnt play a shot and it looks as if the ball would hit the stumps then it is out...

In this instance katish did play a shot, however although the ball pitched outside offstump, the impact was on the line of offstump..

These are close calls yet somehow I reckon they'd be given if the bowler was say Warne and then the commentators would be lauding the decision..
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Well it is normal that the decision does not go out way...

Katish was out both time and if a Pakistani batsman was batting he was out.
 
KingKhanWC said:
That's down to ones view. Padding up can be done in a very suttle way. The reason being, it saves you from he outsidge edge, the batter pretends he is playing a shot but in reality he is not. I know this is very difficult for the umpires to spot but even so it was a so close other umpires would have given that out and so would have UDRS.
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I am not disputing the idea of him being out, because he was.

I just don't feel he padded it. At least not enough to warrant it being considered by the umpire.
 
Dr. Khan said:
Not suddenly, since the past 6 months or so.
since the whole Veena Malik incident, keep watching
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I think you should stop your fetish with Asif. It's kinda ridiculous.
 
Wazeeri said:
..............and (d) the point of impact, even if above the level of the bails
either (i) is between wicket and wicket
or (ii) is either between wicket and wicket or outside the line of the off stump, if the striker has made no genuine attempt to play the ball with his bat
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yes point of impact, if not playing a shot, can be outside offstump and must be in line if the batsman is playing a shot...

However the ball can PITCH outside the offstump...
 
hur rizvi said:
Umpiring cost us on last english tour and bad umpiring has hampered us already at the start of 1st test
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these gore will always do that... In the 20-20 matchees we won against aus,, decision want with us...... Many more decision are gonna come against us just watch and wait-
 
Asif will be good after tea.. There will a little chance to get some reverse swing. And Asif is Very good with reverse swing with red ball compare to Gul or Amir...
 
IMMY69 said:
only if the batsman is not playing a shot - if the ball pitches outside offstump and hits the batsman outside the offstump, but the batsman doesnt play a shot and it looks as if the ball would hit the stumps then it is out...

In this instance katish did play a shot, however although the ball pitched outside offstump, the impact was on the line of offstump..

These are close calls yet somehow I reckon they'd be given if the bowler was say Warne and then the commentators would be lauding the decision..
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Even then its only sort of important if ur trying to determine the angle of the delivery, not an important factor in any scenario.
 
Asif will be good after tea.. There will be a little chance to get some reverse swing. And Asif is Very good with reverse swing with red ball compare to Gul or Amir...
 
Australia | 2/103 | 29 Overs

Australia going well at the moment with a 50 partnership.
 
Why isn't there a square leg close in to stop Katich from taking that single?

Or maybe Afridi just wants Kaneria to bowl to Clarke.
 
1two3 said:
Asif will be good after tea.. There will a little chance to get some reverse swing. And Asif is Very good with reverse swing with red ball compare to Gul or Amir...
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Not with his pace.
 
invariably the question will have to be asked, have Australia already got enough runs to put pressure on our batting???????
 
I really like the way clarke plays but i simply hate him when he plays pakistan! :pissed:
 
Australia | 2/112 | 30 Overs

Umar Gul much improve then in the morning session.

Clarke race away for 34 now.
 
Hmm I'm feeling pessimistic today. Hate it when that happens.

But I guess we could still get Australia under 300
 
We really missed a 4th seamer!!!

Three is always risky in these conditions as one oculd have an off day and i think its turning out this way!
 
IMMY69 said:
We really missed a 4th seamer!!!

Three is always risky in these conditions as one oculd have an off day and i think its turning out this way!
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And when we are 100/5, we will miss an extra batsman!
 
Why on earth are our bowlers bowling to kAtich's strength...they simply have to keep the ball outside offstump and stop getting fooled by his exxagerated feet movement...
 
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