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Taufeeq out unusual dismissal inside edge onto pad and caught at mid-wicket off a medium pacer.


MIG: No one is posting here.
 
a post....:oD!

Looks to me like 2 things:

1. Pak getting in the mood of things
2. Pak unable to get going due to weather conditions
 
Oh its been a very long couple weeks.

Been checking up on the Time Pass section on occasion...and thoroughly enjoying the inane banter :oD
 
Always enjoy the MiG articles...fantastic writing.

With Akhtar gone, I hope we can finally use the 6 batsman - 4 strike bowler specialist formula for Tests.
 
I hope Kamal goes on to making a TONNNNN
n tht Popeye hasn't had much spinach (he'll feel 2 strong 2 go after the bowlers) or else his chances ov staying are less............
 
Maybe its the "legendary" swing conditions that we always encounter on our first match !
 
thankfully due to asim kamal we have a score above 150. I can see pakistan at the moment realistically scoring max of 220. I think that razzaq is back int eh side primarily due to his bowling ability (well, i suppose that is obvious as he had a horrible test series in aus with the bat). So let's hope he can do the business with the ball!
 
But thats all we can do.. hope. Because on paper and recent past series, our bowling attack can only throw pies... it may be enough for this indian president xi (i sure hope so) but what about Ghambir, Sehwag, Tendulkar, Ganguly, Dravid, Laxman... damn i can't believe how many people we need to go through =-) I'll stop thinking about it, it makes my head hurt
 
great 2 see pakistans VC skipper get runs!

well done asim kamal also!
 
Yes - can someone pls remind me of the result in Indias series opener in Lahore , last year ? .......
 
Amjid are you being serious???

Your attacking of Younis Khan has been justified because he got a duck in a tour match????
Have you conveniently forgot about the runs he scored in aus and the score he made against SL???
 
I wouldn't read too much in this warm up game. Players are a bit rusty and should be fine for the first test. YK is a bit of a horse though sometimes, onde day running fast and galloping and other day just trotting. :-p
 
From Rediff, match report:


Pakistan falter after good start
http://www.rediff.com/cricket/2005/mar/03warmup.htm
March 03, 2005 18:45 IST



Pakistan made an unceremonious start to their high profile tour of India. A middle-order collapse undid a fluent start against the Board President's XI on the opening day of the three-day warm-up match at the HPCA stadium in Dharamsala on Thursday.

The visitors were 165 for five at close despite a half century opening stand and another equally enterprising middle-order partnership between captain Inzamam-ul Haq and Asim Kamal.

Inzamam's 35th birthday celebrations were spoilt to a large extent by some indiscretion on his part besides penetrative bowling and agile fielding by the Board XI players.

At stumps, Kamal was batting on 43, with Abdul Razzaq on two.

Taufeeq Umar (37) and Salman Butt (21) gave the tourists a solid start before two quick dismissals pegged them back.

The opening pair helped the team quickly get off the blocks after bad light and drizzle robbed nearly three hours of play.

Butt and Umar put on 54 runs for the opening stand before the former was run out for 21 after captain Inzamam-ul Haq elected to bat.

The hosts, however, made regular inroads to find themselves in a comfortable position at the end of the day.

Earlier, the start of play was delayed by about 50 minutes due to bad light.

The heavy cloud cover held up play much to the disappointment of 5000-odd spectators who had come to watch the Pakistanis on their first visit to India in six years.

And when play finally got underway, heavy drizzle forced suspension with less than three overs bowled.

It was only after close to an hour after scheduled lunch that the sun came out for the first time in the day and some real action was possible.

Butt and Umar were in excellent touch as they drove seamers Rudra Pratap Singh and Gagandeep Singh effortlessly.

The two left-handers had full support of the locals who cheered every boundary they hit.

Butt, whose confidence was high after a classy century against Australia, found his first boundary with an elegant cover drive off R P Singh. He struck two more from the other end to seize the initiative.

The scoring rate reached alarming levels when host captain Mohammad Kaif turned to Ramesh Powar, the Mumbai off-spinner who had been among the wickets this season.

And the trick did work. Off the last ball of Powar's first over, Umar played it to square leg and seemed to settle for a single. Butt called for an ambitious second and was promptly sent back, but it was too late to beat Venugopala Rao's throw.

Six balls later, vice-captain Younis Khan edged an innocuous delivery from Gagandeep Singh to Dheeraj Jadhav at second slip.

Yousuf Youhana (18) announced his arrival with two meaty blows off Powar on the on side. But what promised to be an entertaining innings was cut short when Shib Shankar Paul found his inside edge.

Parthiv Patel, who had fumbled a couple of takes earlier, made no mistake and took a tumbling catch forward.

R P Singh resumed his second spell from the opposite end and tasted success immediately when he had Umar caught bat pad by Kaif at forward short leg.

Thanks to those two dismissals immediately after the tea break, Pakistan slipped to 83 for four and found themselves on the backfoot.

Butthe second string Indian attack posed little problems for Inzamam. He pulled R P Singh effortlessly to midwicket fence, and then cut and drove him on the off side, forcing Kaif to take him out of the attack.

Asim Kamal, whom the Indians will remember for his nerves of steel during the series last year, was equally adept at hooking Paul over backward square-leg. Later, he struck the Bengal pacer for two straight driven fours in the same over.

By now the cloud cover had lifted, giving a full view of the snowy peaks and the clear blue sky was visible for the first time in days.

The batsmen seemed to as much relish the sunshine as they stepped up the tempo.

The left-handed Kamal lofted Venugopala Rao to long on to bring up the 150. And Inzamam's every shot was reason for the crowd to cheer his 35th birthday.

Sadly, the Pakistan captain could make only as many runs.

And ending the 72-run partnership was the same lollypop off spin of the Andhra player when Inzamam played a reckless sweep and missed to be leg before wicket.

Scorecard

Pakistan (1st innings):
S Butt run out 21
T Umar c Kaif b R P Singh 37
Younis Khan c Jadhav b Gagandeep Singh 0
Y Youhana c Patel b Paul 18
Inzamam-ul-Haq lbw Rao 35
A Kamal batting 43
A Razzaq batting 2

Extras: ((b-5, lb-2, nb-2): 9

Total: (for 5 wickets in 45 overs) 165

Fall of wickets: 1-54, 2-55, 3-83, 4-83, 5-155.

Bowling: R P Singh 13-3-50-1, Gagandeep 15-3-40-1, Ramesh Powar 4-0-22-0, SS Paul 8-2-23-1, Venugopala Rao 5-0-23-1.
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
Amjid are you being serious???

Your attacking of Younis Khan has been justified because he got a duck in a tour match????
Have you conveniently forgot about the runs he scored in aus and the score he made against SL???
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1st off all it was a joke... 2ndly an attack?

where....?

listen guy averages 39 in test ... also he was in form in Australia

so were where the big runs? seems most fans are satisified when form players cash in and get the odd 50...!

most top quality players cashi in when in form with 100+, 150+ or even 200s etc.... or they score 100 after 100

YK top form is a list of 40s etc... sadly that aint gud enuf.

if ur happy with that so be it...

look at a strauss or kallis, when they are in form they bang 100 after 100

yet with useless khan its 40, 45,60,21,80 etc...

thats a poor return for sum1 in top form!

my comments may seem outspoken,facts is hes not justifying potential he has....!

hes not even been a regular in tests for last 2 years!
 
MenInGreen said:
From Rediff, match report:


Pakistan falter after good start
http://www.rediff.com/cricket/2005/mar/03warmup.htm
March 03, 2005 18:45 IST



Pakistan made an unceremonious start to their high profile tour of India. A middle-order collapse undid a fluent start against the Board President's XI on the opening day of the three-day warm-up match at the HPCA stadium in Dharamsala on Thursday.

The visitors were 165 for five at close despite a half century opening stand and another equally enterprising middle-order partnership between captain Inzamam-ul Haq and Asim Kamal.

Inzamam's 35th birthday celebrations were spoilt to a large extent by some indiscretion on his part besides penetrative bowling and agile fielding by the Board XI players.

At stumps, Kamal was batting on 43, with Abdul Razzaq on two.

Taufeeq Umar (37) and Salman Butt (21) gave the tourists a solid start before two quick dismissals pegged them back.

The opening pair helped the team quickly get off the blocks after bad light and drizzle robbed nearly three hours of play.

Butt and Umar put on 54 runs for the opening stand before the former was run out for 21 after captain Inzamam-ul Haq elected to bat.

The hosts, however, made regular inroads to find themselves in a comfortable position at the end of the day.

Earlier, the start of play was delayed by about 50 minutes due to bad light.

The heavy cloud cover held up play much to the disappointment of 5000-odd spectators who had come to watch the Pakistanis on their first visit to India in six years.

And when play finally got underway, heavy drizzle forced suspension with less than three overs bowled.

It was only after close to an hour after scheduled lunch that the sun came out for the first time in the day and some real action was possible.

Butt and Umar were in excellent touch as they drove seamers Rudra Pratap Singh and Gagandeep Singh effortlessly.

The two left-handers had full support of the locals who cheered every boundary they hit.

Butt, whose confidence was high after a classy century against Australia, found his first boundary with an elegant cover drive off R P Singh. He struck two more from the other end to seize the initiative.

The scoring rate reached alarming levels when host captain Mohammad Kaif turned to Ramesh Powar, the Mumbai off-spinner who had been among the wickets this season.

And the trick did work. Off the last ball of Powar's first over, Umar played it to square leg and seemed to settle for a single. Butt called for an ambitious second and was promptly sent back, but it was too late to beat Venugopala Rao's throw.

Six balls later, vice-captain Younis Khan edged an innocuous delivery from Gagandeep Singh to Dheeraj Jadhav at second slip.

Yousuf Youhana (18) announced his arrival with two meaty blows off Powar on the on side. But what promised to be an entertaining innings was cut short when Shib Shankar Paul found his inside edge.

Parthiv Patel, who had fumbled a couple of takes earlier, made no mistake and took a tumbling catch forward.

R P Singh resumed his second spell from the opposite end and tasted success immediately when he had Umar caught bat pad by Kaif at forward short leg.

Thanks to those two dismissals immediately after the tea break, Pakistan slipped to 83 for four and found themselves on the backfoot.

Butthe second string Indian attack posed little problems for Inzamam. He pulled R P Singh effortlessly to midwicket fence, and then cut and drove him on the off side, forcing Kaif to take him out of the attack.

Asim Kamal, whom the Indians will remember for his nerves of steel during the series last year, was equally adept at hooking Paul over backward square-leg. Later, he struck the Bengal pacer for two straight driven fours in the same over.

By now the cloud cover had lifted, giving a full view of the snowy peaks and the clear blue sky was visible for the first time in days.

The batsmen seemed to as much relish the sunshine as they stepped up the tempo.

The left-handed Kamal lofted Venugopala Rao to long on to bring up the 150. And Inzamam's every shot was reason for the crowd to cheer his 35th birthday.

Sadly, the Pakistan captain could make only as many runs.

And ending the 72-run partnership was the same lollypop off spin of the Andhra player when Inzamam played a reckless sweep and missed to be leg before wicket.

Scorecard

Pakistan (1st innings):
S Butt run out 21
T Umar c Kaif b R P Singh 37
Younis Khan c Jadhav b Gagandeep Singh 0
Y Youhana c Patel b Paul 18
Inzamam-ul-Haq lbw Rao 35
A Kamal batting 43
A Razzaq batting 2

Extras: ((b-5, lb-2, nb-2): 9

Total: (for 5 wickets in 45 overs) 165

Fall of wickets: 1-54, 2-55, 3-83, 4-83, 5-155.

Bowling: R P Singh 13-3-50-1, Gagandeep 15-3-40-1, Ramesh Powar 4-0-22-0, SS Paul 8-2-23-1, Venugopala Rao 5-0-23-1.
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:-D :-D
 
I didnt mean to provide so much excitement to AJ - promise !
 
MIG, people seem to think am outspoken on YK. to me it comes down to one things.

1) potential - YK is a talented player but an average off 39 is poor in my eyes for sum1 of his quality. bowlers off today in test cricket are off a poor standard compared to 4/5 years ago. look at how many batsmen are cashing in now a days, strauss, kallis to name a few... when in form 100 after 100 comes.

with YK? it 40 here, 60 there, then a 20

is that justifying talent or cashing in on form?

(b4 any1 says what did such and such do where talking about just YK)

any1 who has seen YK career can see number of times this guys got a start and then puff hes gone...!

All this talk about VC skipper is fine but uve gota take bull by horns.

I dont rate inzi as a skipper, but one thing ive always said is he leads from front with bat in "tests" but is poor in field.

YK is all being portrayed on his good team man skills

sadly u got prove urself worthy off the accolade to play 1st!
 
Funnily enough, AJ, I agree with YK - I really like him but he is letting himself down badly - Fact of the matter is that he will have place in the 1st test - its a given - I just hope for Paks sake he gets some halwa bowling to start with or else he will be made qeema of ! ( I used cooking analogies for your sake! )
 
MIG who decides that Halwa describes poor bowling??? why cant halwa bowling mean world class bowling???

I like Halwa, i think its very very good!
:-)
 
MIG, ive justed added to the AJ thread on time pass section.

2day is 1st anniversary of me being here.

the problem with YK is he comes to the party has 1 dance and seems happy, where as others seem to party the whole night and make full worth of what oppurtunity they have been given.

if YK does well and fufills his potential i would be very happy as it wud benefit pakistan side.

sadly people just always see things as just criticism!
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
MIG who decides that Halwa describes poor bowling??? why cant halwa bowling mean world class bowling???

I like Halwa, i think its very very good!
:-)
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Ya know what I mean, when I bowl to my son, he calls it Halwa and then smacks it over the wall for six.....
 
high enough - actually where we live, the next door neighbour has a mini zoo with ducks, geese, gazelles, turkeys !! Everytime the ball goes over ( six) , there is a mini stampede!
 
MenInGreen said:
high enough - actually where we live, the next door neighbour has a mini zoo with ducks, geese, gazelles, turkeys !! Everytime the ball goes over ( six) , there is a mini stampede!
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:oD :oD
 
Hitman Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:04 pm

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Amjid Javed Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:05 pm

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razzaq as 3rd seamer and 4th bowler is a joke!

if this is test attack then its poor 4th selection!

4 bowlers(including razzaq) is asking for a beating!
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1.6 B Lee to Shahid Afridi, OUT: nope, the Afridi law of rarely being able to score more than his age remains, spoons it high over the bowler, mid on runs around to take a safe catch
 
Yep, I was waiting for this from Amjid!

YK has just come off a tour in the most difficult conditions and against the best bowling attack in the world and was our best test batsman. His father then passed away. He then proceeds to get out for a duck on a tremendous catch in a tour match and Amjid pounces! With fans like that, who needs enemies!
 
Six balls later, vice-captain Younis Khan edged an innocuous delivery from Gagandeep Singh to Dheeraj Jadhav at second slip.
 
Naveed said:
Yep, I was waiting for this from Amjid!

YK has just come off a tour in the most difficult conditions and against the best bowling attack in the world and was our best test batsman. His father then passed away. He then proceeds to get out for a duck on a tremendous catch in a tour match and Amjid pounces! With fans like that, who needs enemies!
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Naveed - but YK did play a bad shot and you expect more from him.

I just pray that he can pick up his form for the real matches...I know that he has the potential to do that ...
 
Pakistani batsmen slip on captain's birthday

March 03 2005 at 03:49PM

Dharamsala, India - Pakistan captain Inzamam-ul-Haq had little to cheer about on his birthday as his batsman floundered against pace in a practice match ahead of a Test series against India on Thursday.

Pakistan were wobbling at 83/4 against a Board President's team before reaching 165/5 in their first innings at stumps on the opening day of a three-day game.

Inzamam, who turned 35 on Thursday, steadied the innings with a 72-run stand for the fifth wicket with Asim Kamal (43 not out) but was dismissed when looking well-set.

The Pakistani captain made a fluent 35 before falling leg-before while attempting to sweep off-spinner Venugopala Rao.

Pacemen Gagandeep Singh, Rudra Pratap Singh and Shib Shankar Paul rattled Pakistan's top order as they shared three wickets to put the tourists on the back foot after Inzamam had won the toss in overcast conditions.

Just 45 overs were completed due to bad light and drizzle at the Dharamshala Cricket Stadium, hosting its first-ever international match.

But the tourists failed to make the most of their only warm-up game before the opening Test of a three-match series against India, starting at Mohali on March 8.

Pakistan were off to a solid start on a slow pitch as left-handed openers Taufeeq Umar and Salman Butt put on 54 runs in 11 overs.

The slide began when Butt was run out for 21 following a mix-up with Umar. The tourists then lost three wickets in the space of 29 runs.

Pakistan vice-captain Younis Khan was dismissed off the first ball, brilliantly caught by Dheeraj Jadhav off Gangandeep.

Reliable middle-order batsman Yousuf Youhana (18) excecuted a couple of handsome shots before inside-edging a Paul delivery to wicket-keeper Parthiv Patel.

Umar (37) had been looking confident during his 99-minute stay at the crease before giving a bat-pad catch to skipper Mohammad Kaif at short mid-wicket.

Inzamam and Kamal then propped up the innings with their sensible knocks, but Pakistan's batting still left a lot to be desired ahead of the Test series.

Pakistan will also play six one-day international on their tour of India, their first in six years
 
MenInGreen said:
Naveed said:
Yep, I was waiting for this from Amjid!

YK has just come off a tour in the most difficult conditions and against the best bowling attack in the world and was our best test batsman. His father then passed away. He then proceeds to get out for a duck on a tremendous catch in a tour match and Amjid pounces! With fans like that, who needs enemies!
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Naveed - but YK did play a bad shot and you expect more from him.

I just pray that he can pick up his form for the real matches...I know that he has the potential to do that ...
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Sure but it's just a damn tour match!
 
I mean last year Pathan got walloped in the Indian warm-up match; did that really matter?
 
Naveed said:
MenInGreen said:
Naveed said:
Yep, I was waiting for this from Amjid!

YK has just come off a tour in the most difficult conditions and against the best bowling attack in the world and was our best test batsman. His father then passed away. He then proceeds to get out for a duck on a tremendous catch in a tour match and Amjid pounces! With fans like that, who needs enemies!
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Naveed - but YK did play a bad shot and you expect more from him.

I just pray that he can pick up his form for the real matches...I know that he has the potential to do that ...
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Sure but it's just a damn tour match!
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True but the only warmup and if as a Pak supporter, you are looking for signs/omens - well it doesnt help

However, the real matches are ahead and I do expect him to play an important role.
 
Naveed, the duck jibe was a joke.

But lets get serious. YK is a senior player, and yes he did partially well in Australia, but where did he cash in on his good form? where did he lead from front?

if this guys VC and a senior, then hes got show more responsability, alot of fans WIY, gary etc .. keep touting him as taking inzis batting spot etc when he retires etc...

sadly YK doesnt have the ability in terms off application or tempremant 2 fill that spot. YK has alot off talent but doesnt seem 2 justify it.

its time he stepped up fully.. in Australia, he was always batting well with sum1 else YY or S butt etc.. but when it came to YK time to lead from front once sum1 had got out.. he went missing.

time for YK to step up from support batsmen to major batsmen and very soon...
 
Sorry but pathan was bowlin 2 decent batsmen such as imran nazir, taufeeq umar n if im not wrong didnt butt play in that match where as who on gods earth are these bowlers pakistan were gettin out to so really u cant compare some very average indian team 2 the pakistan a team which had many players who can still smack pathan all over the pitch
 
Im sure YK will perform better in the next innings. Good to see Kamal doing well. He got 43 off 69 balls. If he proves that he can play his innings a little faster, he might get a chance in ODI's too. And i dont think that will be a bad idea. Im sure we atleast wont be witnessing 3 for 17 runs or 3 for 39 runs. He has the ability to give the game a finishing touch.
I wish Malik could make it to the test team as well.
 
If he can speed up his run rate a lil he wud be best for number 3 position but by doin this u will have 2 reshuffle the whole team again n thers been more then enuff of that.
 
I agree with Amjid on the YK thing...but you have to name his replacement. Who would you select if he is dropped?

Amir Bashir ??
 
younis will prove amjid wrong in the tests !

BTW we shuld have bowled first not batted ! but its a practice game perhaps they wanted to see the batsmen
 
PAKISTANI PRIDE !!! said:
younis will prove amjid wrong in the tests !

BTW we shuld have bowled first not batted ! but its a practice game perhaps they wanted to see the batsmen
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if he does well good for pakistan, thats what i hope.
 
Here's the deal. Younis Khan is playing the three test matches period. Now argue, debate do as you please...but he will play. Pointless exercise I would say.


Second, using Amjid's argument on Hameed and why he can't be dropped (he scored 2 50s) there is no way YK can be dropped either. He has been the highest run getter entire season ! (5 test matches) How can you drop him?
 
He got 37 off 72, according to the reports he looked in very good touch. Got out in unusual fashion -- inside edge onto pad caught at mid on off a seamer. Should have gone on though.
 
Kamal gone on 43

lbw by the brutal SS Paul
 
Kamran already 8 off 4 deliveries. 2 FOURS
 
DM said:
Kamal gone on 43

lbw by the brutal SS Paul
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As Amjid would say, drop Kamal. He needs to take responsability and convert his starts into centuries.
 
Pakistan is not really trying here as they are saving their game and all their strength for the real stuff.
 
akmal , sami, rana all go quickly in succession

256/9

razzaq 50
danish 0
 
razzaq playd very well.. 2 6's means he was hitting out while he had weak partners at other end (unlike in aus :D).

Poor scoring from top order.. but ther were some positives in Taufeeq and Kamal. THe reason i'm not including Razzaq on that list is because he's chosen as our 4th specialist bowler for thsi series and he has to take wickets with the ball or else his runs will have been useless
 
will pak lose this match??....with 5 sessions left??...

anything can happen wid pakistan...ask western australia. :|v
 
So will the bits and pieces brigade now explain if Razzaq becomes and automatic selection for the tests based on this performance - since YK should not be playing as he has failed.....

Be glad that we dont have to take that decision here !
 
Rana getting dispatched all over the ground from the apprent looks of things ...
 
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